ThinkProgress: Storm victims kind of had it coming, didn’t they?

posted at 11:18 am on April 29, 2011 by Slublog

Unlike James Wolcott, the writer doesn’t actually root for bad weather, he’s simply using the tragedy in the South to proselytize for his belief system.

The congressional delegations of these states — Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Virginia, and Kentucky — overwhelmingly voted to reject the science that polluting the climate is dangerous. They are deliberately ignoring the warnings from scientists.

Translation: ‘You know, it’s really awful what happened down there and all, but if you don’t believe in global warming, Gaia will end you.’

Thankfully, there is some pushback against this view from those in a position to know about such things, but I’m sure that opinion will be dismissed as heresy by the true believers.  There’s a bloody shirt to wave, after all.  Mankind must atone for its sins.  I do wonder, however, whether those who warn of the dangers of global warming realize that blaming all unusual weather on their favored boogeyman leaves them open to criticism like this.  Just so you know, that isn’t the only post at the blog along these lines.  JammieWearing Fool finds another.

At present, the storms have killed approximately 300 people in six states.  The American Red Cross is accepting donations for those who would like to assist storm victims.


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These tornadoes were the worst in 40 years. Therefore this is proof positive global warming is real,

My question for him would have been: so that means global warming was even worse 40 years ago right?

angryed on April 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

NAILED IT.

MikeknaJ on April 29, 2011 at 2:30 PM

I’m noticing that only one of our libs here has had the decency to show up in this thread. So, I guess Dave Rywall is the only one with some class, if even a little.

Think any of the rest will show up?

Vanceone on April 29, 2011 at 2:33 PM

angryed,

These tornadoes were the worst in 40 years. Therefore this is proof positive global warming is real,

My question for him would have been: so that means global warming was even worse 40 years ago right?

Except back then global cooling was to blame for the tornadoes.

Scientists have found other indications of global cooling. For one thing there has been a noticeable expansion of the great belt of dry, high-altitude polar winds — the so-called circumpolar vortex—that sweep from west to east around the top and bottom of the world. Indeed it is the widening of this cap of cold air that is the immediate cause of Africa’s drought. By blocking moisture-bearing equatorial winds and preventing them from bringing rainfall to the parched sub-Sahara region, as well as other drought-ridden areas stretching all the way from Central America to the Middle East and India, the polar winds have in effect caused the Sahara and other deserts to reach farther to the south. Paradoxically, the same vortex has created quite different weather quirks in the U.S. and other temperate zones. As the winds swirl around the globe, their southerly portions undulate like the bottom of a skirt. Cold air is pulled down across the Western U.S. and warm air is swept up to the Northeast. The collision of air masses of widely differing temperatures and humidity can create violent storms—the Midwest’s recent rash of disastrous tornadoes, for example.

Mike Honcho on April 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM

I knew it was just a matter of time before the eco-scum started making this claim and gloating about it. People who speak the truth are rarely of such low, despicable character. Truth and evil aren’t compatible. It’s just more evidence that their global warming theories are false.

Django on April 29, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Mike Honcho on April 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM

If global cooling was causing desertification in the Sahara, shouldn’t global warming have made it better?

JadeNYU on April 29, 2011 at 2:51 PM

On the plus side, the smackdown of all the global warming nutcase hatemongers in the ThinkProgress thread is pretty epic. And rather enjoyable.

Rationality is to liberalism what sunlight is to vampirism. Similarly entertaining, too. Whenever a little light is shined on these liberal conversations, the cockroaches sure scurry fast.

These tornadoes were the worst in 40 years. Therefore this is proof positive global warming is real,

My question for him would have been: so that means global warming was even worse 40 years ago right?

angryed on April 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

It seems to be the one universal constant to the global warming mythology: the constant refrain is “its the (insert hyperbolic adjective here) in the last (insert x number) years/decades/centuries.

And yet they never, ever, ever pause to wonder what exactly was going on X number of years ago. It’s like they don’t even hear the first clause of their own sentence. Very odd.

Or, even more perplexing, they never seem even mildly curious about whether things might have even been BETTER x number of years ago when whatever “catastrophe” was occurring.

During the last warming cycle, parts of Europe – parts that are now depressingly bleak and cold – were apparently rather pleasant.

That never seems to give them pause.

As someone noted in another thread, if we can blame hurricanes and earthquakes on mythical “global warming,” isn’t it equally legitimate to claim that the GORGEOUS day here in Tennessee is a consequence of global warming?

Why am I asking logical questions? How foolish. I’m probably just being racist or something.

Professor Blather on April 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM

HuffPo comments were full of this nasty stuff too, same as with the stories on the Texas fires.

I don’t want to generalize, but a disturbingly large number of “compassionate progressives” are bigoted haters. I know, big newsflash, right?

juliesa on April 29, 2011 at 2:56 PM

For those of you too lazy to click on the link that was provided by another poster here is what Glenn Beck said:

“I’m not saying God is, you know, causing earthquakes — well I’m not not saying that either!” he said. “What God does is God’s business, I have no idea. But I’ll tell you this — whether you call it Gaia or whether you call it Jesus, there’s a message being sent. And that is, ‘Hey you know that stuff we’re doing? Not really working out real well. Maybe we should stop doing some of it.’”

So he’s saying that a message is being sent, which implies a messenger and he even names two candidates. And he goes on to state that the “message” is a consequence of human action. He’s not any different than Fred Phelps except that Fred Phelps doesn’t act cute. And we know Glenn is a Mormon so we know who he thinks the messenger is.

You who blame natural disasters are the wrath of some magical boogeyman are of the same stripe. You have different boogeymen but you all have a boogeyman. You’re not as different from the Think Progress people as you would like to believe.

deewhybee on April 29, 2011 at 3:03 PM

The bad weather was my fault. I shouldn’t have had that extra bowl of chili. Chili causes gas you know.

BruceB on April 29, 2011 at 3:18 PM

It seems to be the one universal constant to the global warming mythology: the constant refrain is “its the (insert hyperbolic adjective here) in the last (insert x number) years/decades/centuries.

And yet they never, ever, ever pause to wonder what exactly was going on X number of years ago. It’s like they don’t even hear the first clause of their own sentence. Very odd.

Professor Blather on April 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM

This.

MikeknaJ on April 29, 2011 at 3:29 PM

The bad weather was my fault. I shouldn’t have had that extra bowl of chili. Chili causes gas you know.

BruceB on April 29, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Well, thanks a lot, Bruce.

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

GOREISM

Kini on April 29, 2011 at 3:39 PM

The bad weather was my fault. I shouldn’t have had that extra bowl of chili. Chili causes gas you know.

BruceB on April 29, 2011 at 3:18 PM

Well, thanks a lot, Bruce.

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:37 PM

Quick, go eat a bowl of ice cream to balance things out!!

itsspideyman on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Late to the party here, but a question to the TP meatheads:

Wouldn’t global warming-caused increases in tornados suggest a steady increase in annual tornados over the last 50 or 60 years?

NOAA doesn’t see it that way.

iurockhead on April 29, 2011 at 3:56 PM

Quick, go eat a bowl of ice cream to balance things out!!

itsspideyman on April 29, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Better make that tofutti ice cream. The cows, spidey, think of the cows!!!!

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Funny how when something bad happens to liberals, someone else is to blame and needs to be made to pay. But something bad happening to someone else, and they brought it upon themselves.

Left Coast Right Mind on April 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM

If global cooling was causing desertification in the Sahara, shouldn’t global warming have made it better?

JadeNYU on April 29, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Apparently, it has. Contrary to earlier predictions that the deserts would grow.

The added CO2 also reduces water requirements for plants, which may be a factor.

iurockhead on April 29, 2011 at 4:03 PM

The added CO2 also reduces water requirements for plants, which may be a factor.

iurockhead on April 29, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Yay! They should totally bring back the aerosol can.

cynccook on April 29, 2011 at 4:08 PM

I saw video of that evil tornado. Yes, Think Progress, it was as if the malevolent tornado was looking, yes, looking for the buildings where the climate change deniers were cowering.

BigAlSouth on April 29, 2011 at 4:10 PM

He is not pro-environement.

He is simply anti-human.

ajacksonian on April 29, 2011 at 4:24 PM

So Dorothy and Toto had it coming?

Laura in Maryland on April 29, 2011 at 4:39 PM

I’m looking forward to a beatiful summer with comfortable temps. It usually is just like that here. Can it be the result of climate change?

obleo on April 29, 2011 at 4:53 PM

HuffPo comments were full of this nasty stuff too, same as with the stories on the Texas fires.

I don’t want to generalize, but a disturbingly large number of “compassionate progressives” are bigoted haters. I know, big newsflash, right?

juliesa on April 29, 2011 at 2:56 PM

The progs would gladly march millions of conservatives into death camps in order to enact their socialist dreams. What’s a couple hundred dead in the evil South compared to that?

slickwillie2001 on April 29, 2011 at 4:59 PM

The progs would gladly march millions of conservatives into death camps in order to enact their socialist dreams. What’s a couple hundred dead in the evil South compared to that?

slickwillie2001 on April 29, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Wasn’t it our friend Billy Ayers who said some 20 million Americans would have to be killed because they could not be reeducated in his future dream state?

stvnscott on April 29, 2011 at 5:16 PM

How can all of you be missing the point? AGW can cause long periods of elevated temps; long periods of dry or wet weather; long periods of calm, even cooling temps or intermittent and interchangeable periods of all of the above.

Yeesh. I get it!

obleo on April 29, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Oh yea. My source is: “everything and anything that has ever been wriiten on the matter”.

obleo on April 29, 2011 at 5:39 PM

…these states — Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, Virginia, and Kentucky — overwhelmingly voted to reject the science….

…OK…if I didn’t get it before, the veil’s lifted now…the rednecks down south had it comin’….

I suppose that the internal narrative around the sputtering, twirly lightbulbs out there in eco-dom goes something like this: rednecks — by which I mean anyone living beyond the pale by being outside of the preferred suburban beltway — are, after all, the folks who elected Reagan overwhelmingly, a couple of Bushes, and who inconceivably refuse to recognize the exceptional, well, far-outness and overwhelming all-rightness of Mr. Obama. Let their angry God have at them!

…after all, they rejected “science”…and are making Gaia all sweaty and itchy…poor ol’ girl….

…one positive point comes out of this…at least they’re acknowledging the existence of a God independent of their own creation…that’s progress, if even in a negative and hateful way…”their” God smote the rednecks…”our” god (Gaia, who bristles at being referred to in the masculine) wouldn’t do that….

…the ideologically static Left and the true-believers of the Church of Gaia have made hate a virtue. They’re evolved, after all, and oh-so enlightened…so much so that their hate is…well…justice. They hate hateful things…and what are rednecks, after all, but hateful things.

…that is, once they’ve found something worthy of hate.

So, just as it’s OK to deny a person free speech when you a) think that their speech is hateful of harmful, and/or b) you can’t think of a counter-argument…it’s OK to make up stories about them and their views out of whole cloth and spread them using the usual useful idiots….

…and it’s OK to hate them…that’s justice…sort of like the justice meted out by El Che on any Batista-partisans not fast enough to escape his enlightened hand….

…so rejoice, Ecocrucians…Jehovah did Gaia’s heavy-lifting…justice for Gaia….

…it’d go a long way toward proving the enlightenment the Left claims as its birthright if they were, just once, to spare a portion of the grief and alligator tears they lavish on Palestinian bombers, North Korean wackos (listening Jimmy?), and cop-killing “revolutionaries” and apply it to the accounts of folks who, at least geographically, are their neighbors…and, demographically, whose sons and daughters enlist and fight and sometimes die to ensure that these neo-druidic totalitarians can have a safe place from which to spew hatred.

…not much…just a tear or two….

Puritan1648 on April 29, 2011 at 5:40 PM

one positive point comes out of this…at least they’re acknowledging the existence of a God independent of their own creation…that’s progress

I suspect that the Ghia godfolks like a god that they can mold into their own politics (not unlike many Christians or pro-abort Catholics -Madamn Botox)

God made man in His image and ever since man has been remaking God into man’s image….

Don L on April 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM

AGW can cause long periods of elevated temps; long periods of dry or wet weather; long periods of calm, even cooling temps or intermittent and interchangeable periods of all of the above.

Sounds like good old fashioned New England weather to me.

Don L on April 29, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Hurricanes haven’t landed on US soil in years. Is that proof that AGW doesn’t exist? or that it exists? I’ve heard that stronger high altitude winds are disrupting their formation. I’m confused. I guess it’s always safe to assume everything is caused by Global Warming.

Fred 2 on April 29, 2011 at 6:33 PM

People need to WTF up.

A year from now after the emotion has died down, the democrats will come out with the same message in a different wrapper.

They will claim global warming was to blame and the only answer is higher taxes, a destroyed US Economy, and Global Welfare.

The Holy Grail of the democrat party.

.

cntrlfrk on April 29, 2011 at 6:42 PM

I live in Washington State.. We don’t get many tornadoes.

And, it’s all due to Patty Murray.

I can tell ya’ that.

P.T.Barnum was right.. There is a sucker born every 60 seconds.. He forgot to mention that idiots are born every 15 seconds.

franksalterego on April 29, 2011 at 6:59 PM

Translation: ‘You know, it’s really awful what happened down there and all, but if you don’t believe in global warming, Gaia will end you.’

That’s not a translation; it’s a distortion.

chumpThreads on April 29, 2011 at 8:01 PM

So back in the 70s when we were headed for another ice age, were these fanatics claiming it was global cooling that caused the tornado outbreak of 1974?

NoLeftTurn on April 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM

My question for him would have been: so that means global warming was even worse 40 years ago right?
angryed on April 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Errrrrrrrrr Nope.
Remember 40 years ago (1971) it AGF, man made global Freezing, the new “Ice Age”

The question would be “so that means global Freezing was even worse 40 years ago than global Warming today?

“the null hypothesis should be that all weather events are affected by global warming rather than the inane statements along the lines of ‘of course we cannot attribute any particular weather event to global warming.’”

Claiming “ALL” weather events are AGW is not science.

That’s akin to claiming sunrise and sunset are a result of AGW.

DSchoen on April 29, 2011 at 8:25 PM

I suspect that the Ghia godfolks like a god that they can mold into their own politics (not unlike many Christians or pro-abort Catholics -Madamn Botox)
Don L on April 29, 2011 at 5:51 PM

So how do they explain wild fires in California?
Floods in New York?

DSchoen on April 29, 2011 at 8:44 PM

You who blame natural disasters are the wrath of some magical boogeyman are of the same stripe. You have different boogeymen but you all have a boogeyman. You’re not as different from the Think Progress people as you would like to believe.

deewhybee on April 29, 2011 at 3:03 PM

Bigot.

MadDogF on April 29, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Evidence seems to indicate that warming periods reduce extreme weather events relative to periods of cooling or neutral temperature trends.

Count to 10 on April 29, 2011 at 9:43 PM

So back in the 70s when we were headed for another ice age, were these fanatics claiming it was global cooling that caused the tornado outbreak of 1974?

NoLeftTurn on April 29, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Try this on for size;

And in this same year after the 2nd of February came the severe winter with frost and snow, and all kinds of bad weather, so that there was no man alive who could remember so severe a winter as that, both through mortality of men and disease of cattle; both birds and fishes perished through the great cold and hunger.

That’s from the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (1046 AD), describing the violent weather at the beginning of what is now known as the Little Ice Age, which lasted well into the 1300s in Europe. (Quoted in chapter 6 of Connections by James Burke, 1978; Burke, BTW, was an early AGW advocate.)

In North America, similar weather patterns persisted well into the 1800s. During the American Civil War, Union Army officers were surprised that their men did not require overcoats to be safe and comfortable during the winter of 1861-62 in Northern Virginia. A decade earlier, the Potomac was frozen over from late November to early April every year.

Matters were not helped by the eruption of Mt. Tambora in the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia) in 1816. The volcano’s eruptive blast, which was actually more powerful that either Krakatau (Krakatoa) in 1883 or Mt St. Helens in 1980, threw so much particulate matter into the upper atmosphere that it caused temperatures to fall all over the world due to screening of solar radiation. 1816 was a year of terrible weather for farmers in the Northern Hemisphere, especially in the then-new United States; frosts and snow in July and August caused crop failures in the South as well as the North. 1816 was known in the States variously as “The Year Without A Summer” and “Eighteen Hundred And Froze To Death”.

And with the cold came violent storms. They were so violent in Europe that tornadoes formed in Western France; they don’t get tornadoes there, generally. In Switzerland, weather was bad enough to keep pretty much everyone indoors the entire summer; it takes a lot of bad weather to impress the Swiss.

One side effect was that, being forced to stay indoors, a group of English expatriates living near Lake Geneva amused themselves by writing and telling ghost stories. They were Percy Shelley, George Gordon (Lord Byron), and Shelley’s young fiance’, Mary Godwin. She is better known today as Mary Shelley, and the “ghost story” she wrote is considered the first true work of science fiction; Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus.

By this it can be seen that it is cooling, not warming, that causes violent weather due to the imbalance in air masses and their temperatures that drive the “heat engine” of the atmosphere. If the Earth’s atmosphere were truly in an overall warming mode, as the AGW monomaniacs claim, we would be increasingly in a situation where there were no differences in temperature between air masses. This is called in meteorology a poikilothermal state, and is marked by a lack of weather extremes. There are few, or even no, storm systems; the temperature gradient differences which drive them are not there.

(And before anybody asks, I studied meteorology in aviation ground school, and had to learn to read weather prog charts plus interpret winds aloft. And later, I studied geology and vulcanology with a side order of paleometeorology , to learn to interpret the “weather record” in ice cores. It’s amazing the things being a forensic science type can get you into in later life.)

If the AGW crowd knew what they were talking about, it would have been the First Medieval Warm Period (7th-10th Centuries AD), the Second MWP (14th-15th Centuries AD), and the last half of the 19th Century AD that experienced the most violent weather. In fact, these were all periods of relative calm. The historical record names them liars. Which probably explains why they tried to “erase” the second MWP from the historical record with the Mann “hockey stick” graph. (As the old saying goes, a smart liar lies with the facts, or hides them if he can’t use them.)

Sorry this post ran on so long, but these people are seriously p**sing this former “CSI” off. If I’d gone into court with the sort of “evidence” they insist “proves” AGW, I not only wouldn’t have gotten a conviction, the prosecutor, and the judge, would have had my intestines run up the flagpole outside the courthouse for screwing the prosecution’s case.

As for those claiming that the “red” states “had it coming” for not supporting AGW- they are beneath contempt. I’d say more, but I’m sure the language filter wouldn’t pass it.

AGW is not science. It is a religious cult. And like all such belief systems, it tries to bend, break, or simply ignore the laws of physics to suit itself.

Unfortunately for the “true believers”, the real world doesn’t work that way.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 29, 2011 at 10:09 PM

eon on April 29, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Excellent post, sir/madam!

massrighty on April 29, 2011 at 10:58 PM

I just read a post by a lib friend on Facebook that was making light of the situation. To paraphrase, he said that isn’t it odd that people against big government are the first people to ask for help from FEMA and the same people that demanded O’s birth certificate are now asking him to declare a federal disaster area.

Of course these people have paid more into the system than they will ever take out, but let’s make snarky comments for political sake. I’ve about had enough of the a**holes.

ReaganWasRight on April 29, 2011 at 11:26 PM

Many people died in these storms. Many people lost their houses and irreplaceable personal effects. Hundreds of thousands are sitting in houses with no power and limited means of communication. This vulture has the gall to try to use their pain to score political brownie points?!

Words fail me.

Jill1066 on April 29, 2011 at 11:29 PM

As a native Oklahoman, I’d like to say these storm phenomena happen sporadically, and sometimes violently for a long time during the season, and it’s also not unusual for there to be no tornadoes at all. This is not “climate,” my friends… this is “weather,” which is truly cyclical in nature…not based on man’s actions.

Grow up, eco-whackos!

MsUnderestimated on April 30, 2011 at 2:38 AM

I haven’t time to look up the exact date and location, but there was a tornado so strong in the mid to late 19th century that when it crossed the Mississippi, it sucked up much of the underwater swimmers – and it rained fish many miles away on the east side of the river.

One town’s women and children were all killed, sparing just the men. Huh, you may ask?

The men were coalminers – and were underground at the time of the tragedy.

Globull Warming was the cause, of course! :)

honsy on April 30, 2011 at 9:02 AM

eon on April 29, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Very informative — thank you! It’s obvious from the ThinkProgress article that the author knows jack all about how tornadoes form. Our weather guys here were advising this would be an active spring all the way back in January because of all the cold we’ve had. Looks like they knew what they were talking about.

The other thing about warmist theory that is specious to me (but which they conveniently fail to acknowledge) is that they point to very, very short periods of time and extrapolate out the weather from that period to make blanket declarations about trends in warming. The earth may indeed be warmer than it was (and I’d be inclined to blame that on the sun and not SUVs), but regardless, you can’t look at the weather patterns from a handful of years and call that a trend. The periods you cited, with the exception of the early 1800s where the cooling was caused by volcanic activity, all lasted centuries. I think until we have a couple of hundred more years’ worth of data indicating the earth is getting warmer, we can’t really say. The planet has been here for 4 billion years. A few hot summers in a row is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Even if you believe the earth has only existed 6,000 years, it’s still a blip on the radar screen.

In short, warmists are totally irrational.

NoLeftTurn on April 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM

The tornado(e)s are all Al Gores fault.

percysunshine on April 30, 2011 at 9:46 AM

In short, warmists are totally irrational.

NoLeftTurn on April 30, 2011 at 9:10 AM

Mostly they just want there to be a potential catastrophe, or crisis, that they can blame on someone else. Either they are making a living off of it, or they excuse themselves from their own shortcomings by contributing to “the cause”.

Count to 10 on April 30, 2011 at 10:09 AM

HuffPost was even worse. It allowed its users and even its moderators to post things like “God is just rewarding Repubs by bringing them home” and claims that those Southern racist meth-head rednecks deserved to be killed because they’re Tea Party supporters -


HuffPost approves Moderators, users to stand atop corpses from Southern storms to spew political hatred

Expedio on April 30, 2011 at 10:17 AM

Ghouls. Since life means nothing to the Left, it’s easy to use lives to score cheap political points.

jnelchef on April 30, 2011 at 10:31 AM

It’s unbelievable to me. Comment sections on every story I have read are full of nastiness. The latest lie is that “all these Southern Repug Governors turned down the stimulus money, now they are crying for help from Obama.” And “all these Southern states get like 3 gazillion dollars in federal moeny for every dollar they send to DC in taxes, we have subsidized them enough. etc.”

Haters.

rockmom on April 30, 2011 at 11:30 AM

You know who’s taking care of the people affected by the storms? Other Alabamans. We just went to the store and bought supplies to give to the relief effort and delivered them to a local church for distribution. We’ve donated money to Red Cross and B’ham Baptist Association Disaster Relief. When I get my royalty check in May, we’ll give more for the follow-up relief. And that’s one family out of hundreds of thousands doing things, big and small, to help their neighbors.

Churches are pitching in. People are donating time and services, food and comfort. Could we use the disaster relief money? Of course–vital infrastructure was damaged and until that’s repaired, more lives are in jeopardy. But we sure as hell don’t depend on government to dig us out of the rubble–that’s what neighbors and family and local communities do because the behemoth of bureaucracy can’t move fast enough to relieve immediate problems.

Know what I’m seeing on local TV? People who’ve been devastated but are still alive and pitching in where they can to help each other out. Many people who really didn’t have that much to begin with but are grateful to be alive and show it by helping others in trouble.

I’m also hearing about looting, but it doesn’t seem to be widespread (and even if the authorities don’t catch them, God’s got plans for ‘em, I’m convinced).

Last night, a local TV telethon raised more than 500K in donations to the Red Cross for disaster relief. The bulk of it came from those evil businesses that the left hates so much. At the church where we dropped off donated supplies, a florist had donated the use of their delivery truck to carry supplies to affected areas. That same story is playing out across all the affected areas.

I don’t really give a rip who wants to debate what about global warming or stimulus money–haters gonna hate. But I want to make sure you know that the people of Alabama aren’t sitting around waiting for the government to save them. They’ll take help wherever they can get it, and be grateful for it, but in the meantime, even among the ones who’ve lost everything, they’re helping each other in whatever ways they can.

bamaconservative on April 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Sorry this post ran on so long…

eon on April 29, 2011 at 10:09 PM

It was a good read. Dense with facts and considerations.

Axeman on April 30, 2011 at 7:43 PM

That’s why they are “Progressives”.

“Global Cooling”–> “Global Warming” –> “Climate Change” –> “Climate Pollution”

They keep throwing different crap on the wall to see what sticks.

Dandapani on May 1, 2011 at 7:30 AM

AGW is not science. It is a religious cult. And like all such belief systems, it tries to bend, break, or simply ignore the laws of physics to suit itself.

Unfortunately for the “true believers”, the real world doesn’t work that way.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 29, 2011 at 10:09 PM

As you are (or were) a student in meterology, and you claim scientific expertise thereby, you are probably aware of the official position of the American Meterological Society with regard to man-made climate change. If not, you will find it embodied in this.

Also, as far as extremes in weather events, this is being monitored by NOAA in the form of the Climate Extremes Index. Here is a summary based on that index (which you can find on NOAA’s web site, described in complete detail):

Revised CEI results indicate that for the annual, summer, and warm seasons the percent of the contiguous United States experiencing extreme conditions has been generally increasing since the early 1970s. Significant contributors to this include increases in monthly mean maximum and minimum temperatures over the past 30 to 40 years. Results from the cold season CEI indicate a possible increasing trend in extremes since the 1940s with large season-to-season fluctuations. Little to no trend in extremes was noted for other standard periods, including the winter season. Graphs of the most current CEI and the individual indicators that are comprised in the CEI may be viewed at the NCDC CEI Web site (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cei/cei.html)

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oakland on May 1, 2011 at 7:32 AM

Wow, just WOW. I just received power early this morning after being out since the tornadoes hit us last Wednesday. I cannot believe the crappy comments and suggestions of how the big, bad south had it coming. Folks here are STILL out of power and will be for perhaps another week. Our family and community are thanking the good Lord that we were spared this time. The more than 50 tornadoes hit all around us. I could hear the Cullman tornado (F4 or F5) roaring from my back patio–and Cullman is 30 miles away.

As Bamaconservative said above, everyone here is helping one another as much as they can. Very few people are complaining. Most are grateful they are alive. Heard a young middle school girl call into the radio the other night (that’s the only link we’ve had to the outside world for almost a week) and her family lost everything in the tornado. The only thing she cared about finding in the rubble was a ticket stub and t-shirt she had from a recent Lady Gaga concert. That was her way of finding some comfort in this disaster.

The global warming and liberal idiots can take a freakin’ long walk off a short pier. I’m proud of how the citizens of the State of Alabama are pitching in. There have been community cookouts where everyone brings the food from their freezer that is going bad and they grill it all up so everyone can eat and socialize some. The local radio stations here have been invaluable conduits for people to connect and find out where they can get such things as gas, propane, water, ice, locations of shelters, etc. They have been allowing call-ins non-stop since the tornadoes hit–with very little to no ads. They deserve an award for the work they are doing. The stories that will be told of the kindness and compassion of Alabamians towards one another will be an example to the nation. Really.

KickandSwimMom on May 1, 2011 at 8:17 AM

I just drove out of Alabama yesterday and through Georgia, South Carolina to my home in North Carolina. (Month off from work) We were afraid for running out of gas before we could get to where it was normal again. Luckily, Decatur had some power up and gas available before we left and we traveled there before we started our trip.

The devastation in Alabama was mind boggling. In Rocket City, we had no power or gas but were relatively undamaged from the storms. In Guntersville, Rainsville, Ft Payne and about ten other little communities we were just floored at how bad the damage was. The people there were picking up the pieces. They were also asking were the federal emergency agencies were.

Sesquipidean and other liberal trolls were hot on this to prove this was all of mans doing. I’m not sure how much more of liberal lack of class I can take. These fellow Americans had not even finished counting their dead before liberals started using the events to push political agendas. Disgusting.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM

bamaconservative on April 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM

That’s what I saw. Alabamans, not Feds.

hawkdriver on May 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM

CRAP! “where” the federal …

hawkdriver on May 1, 2011 at 9:11 AM

I don’t really have anything I can add past what’s already been said, but what disgusting people to say these victims throughout the South had this coming to them.

Here’s to hoping no more dead bodies are counted, and the entire region bounces back bigger and better than what they were before disaster struck.

Badger State Dave on May 1, 2011 at 7:10 PM

But I want to make sure you know that the people of Alabama aren’t sitting around waiting for the government to save them. They’ll take help wherever they can get it, and be grateful for it, but in the meantime, even among the ones who’ve lost everything, they’re helping each other in whatever ways they can.

bamaconservative on April 30, 2011 at 2:27 PM

Yes we will. We will help each other. We survived thank God with only minor damage. But that was one terrifying nite…it was track after track after track of tornadoes, listening to the radio, listening to the guys gives tornado tracks and estimates of arrivals. You do not understand that, just sitting there waiting and praying a track doesn’t roll right over you.

Liberals have lot more work to do if they want to destroy Alabama buddy.

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orbitalair on May 2, 2011 at 6:08 PM

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