Breaking: WH releasing long-form birth certificate
posted at 9:13 am on April 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Well, I’m certainly glad this happened the day before I left the country on vacation. CNN and pretty much everyone else is abuzz with the news that Barack Obama and the White House have tired of playing with conspiracy theorists and will release the long-form birth certificate after all:
The White House released President Obama’s original birth certificate Wednesday.
The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.
Haven’t seen the actual form yet, but I’ll be sure to add it when I do. So far, news outlets are only showing the CoLB that they’ve had for almost three years, but we should be able to see the original shortly.
The big question is this: will it make any difference? The conspiracy theorists have long speculated that the state of Hawaii’s law that allows parents to get a birth certificate after having a child abroad (true) gives them the option to declare Hawaii the birthplace (not true). Others insist “natural born” means born of two American citizens, which is not only not true but would have disqualified Michael Dukakis in 1988, whose parents were both Greek immigrants. I’m going to guess that this will only shake off those with minimal or moderate attachment to the birth certificate issue, and that the industry will somehow muster onward after this bleak day.
Update: Ah, CNN has the PDF here. And here’s the image:
Note that the long form doesn’t have any mention of religion at all, which was one theory as to why Obama was supposedly “hiding” it, nor does it list anyone else as Obama’s father, another speculative bit of nonsense peddled by the birthers. The place of birth box is checked as within city or town limits, signed as thus by the attendant to the birth.
This conspiracy theory should have died three years ago. Now, maybe we can focus on all the ways Obama is failing as President.
Update II: Some of those who pushed this issue over the last two-plus years are now crying foul, saying “Why did he wait this long to release it?” Why would Obama have wanted to release it? After all, it made for a perfect way to paint his opposition as lunatics. Frankly, I’m surprised he didn’t wait until after the GOP primaries. He could have used the bump more then than now.
You know who the biggest loser in this might be? CNN. They’re in the middle of their in-depth investigation of the birther movement, and now their unaired episodes are moot.
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Just wait ’til 2012!!!!
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM
OK. Forget about the birth issue.
Why is Obama’s mother named “Stanley”?
Stepan on April 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM
I think the original original is what is being sought.
This cert is stamped “April 25, 2011″.
Lothar on April 27, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Yeah, i’m not exactly sure what we are seeing yet. I’m waiting to hear other opinions before I jump to any conclusions. Actually, i’m not going to jump to any conclusions. (That’s my whole point.)
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM
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HE ASKED FOR IT AND THEY MADE THIS CERTIFIED COPY ON APRIL 25 2011
CHRIST
Dave Rywall on April 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM
This long form document shows that his father was not an American citizen.
His son would thereby gain British [Kenya protectorate] citizenship through his father, rendering him NOT a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.
How does this release help Obama?
profitsbeard on April 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM
The mystery deepens…
Surely, this is the new issue.
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Are you telling me that Ed still does not understand the issue? Your parents can be born in another country, but they need to become a US citizen before you are born. Dukakis’ dad immigrated to Mass. more than twenty years before his son was born. I assume he naturalized during that time. If not, then Dukakis would have not been qualified either. It has already been established that there is no real mechanism to enforce this qualification and the fact that someone not qualified actually ran in the past is rather weak tea argument of your constitutional inturpetation. Obama’s dad was just a transitory visitor with no intention of becoming a US citizen. His son was a dual citizen with dual loyalties. Is that a natural born citizen as defined in Article II? That is an undecided question. Anyone who tells you anything different in objectively wrong.
tommylotto on April 27, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Have you the slightest understanding of how ridiculous the theory you’re proffering is? You say that he’s not eligible because he’s not natural born, despite the fact that the damned certificate says he was born in Hawaii. Natural born means natural born. There is no confusion here. He is most certainly eligible, and we have had many presidents and acceptable candidates who did not have citizens as both parents at the time they were born.
You’re trying to wear the Constitution as a tin-foil hat, and frankly that sickens me.
KingGold on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Trump hired people that said this document didn’t exist.
And some people like the idea of him running for president.
America RIP.
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Except for his spittle dripping off the screen. It’s an international disgrace.
Yoop on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
I hope the conspiracy advocates will finally admit defeat. This was a loser of an issue and we need to focus on reality. Obama has just proven a large percentage of the country “wrong” at an opportune time for him. This release will make him look the victim and will decrease support for a GOP element that looked conspiracy obsessed.
I think we should let go of the education records as well. Not all of our guys were exceptional students and GPA as a qualification will get us more academic loonies in the WH. Do Ivy League theoretician belong there?
clnurnberg on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
No, I said for a long time that Obama would release it when it was politically advantageous. If Trump hadn’t shown up, he would have released at another point where he needed to sink someone prominent who was pushing the birther issue. Until Trump, there wasn’t anyone of importance doing so.
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:18 AM
Bradky on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
You know what, I think I’ll just let drywall argue with the birthers.
Count to 10 on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
I don’t know which is sadder. The fact that so many people bought into this nonsense or that so many people did Obama determined it was no longer politically advantageous to him to let the crazies have their conspiracy.
jhffmn on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Bongo being an azzclown with his bc
=
muslum chick wanting a license pic with a vail
Two total jerkoffs
Sonosam on April 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Why does the document look like it was Xerox’d on the left edge? See the curved text? And why wouldn’t the ENTIRE left edge of this document be curved? I believe this pdf is being presented as a single document and not a collage of two right?
I don’t believe we had Xerox copiers back then right? So strictly from a design perspective, is this released PDF compiled by someone Xeroxing the middle part and affixing it to another template document with the overall design and signature on the bottom? I ask this because the middle area, although having a curved left area, matches the background pattern. Forget birther this and that for a second…isn’t this an odd design? Have you ever seen a similar document with this particular oddity? More questions I’m afraid.
bucktowndusty on April 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Actually, Dave, for your ilk it goes like this, and you know it:
Obama’s grades: *literally* nothing (don’t know what they are, don’t care) is good enough
Bush’s C’s and D’s: not good enough
Midas on April 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM
As for Trump, kudos on forcing the issue and ending this inane preoccupation.
clnurnberg on April 27, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Ah, of course. Down the memory hole, eh?
crr6 on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
There was a period of my life where my substance choices earned me the nickname “Bernie”. Never showed up on my birth certificate and I dread the day I get elected for Pres and have to explain that one….
Bradky on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
This long form document shows that his father was not an American citizen.
His son would thereby gain British [Kenya protectorate] citizenship through his father, rendering him NOT a “natural born citizen” of the U.S.
How does this release help Obama?
profitsbeard on April 27, 2011 at 10:33 AM
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wait so according to your awesome logic, the following presidents were not legitimate:
Andrew Jackson
Thomas Jefferson
James Buchanan
Chester Arthur
Woodrow Wilson
Herbert Hoover
I await your brilliant response.
Dave Rywall on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
New Tone: Obama Calls Trump a “Carnival Barker”
idesign on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
But crr6 claimed that Hawaii wouldn’t make a long form certified copy according to Hawaii administrative law?
Was she wrong?
blink on April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Yes. It’s not happening October 2012. This might otherwise have been an October Surprise.
alwaysfiredup on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Oh yes he did. That might be the first thing I ever agreed with Obama on.
pedestrian on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Whatever you say, conspiracy theorist.
Jim Treacher on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Yes, she was. Take comfort in that if you must.
alwaysfiredup on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
But he didn’t spend millions… Cite your source.
jonknee on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Wow, you have to travel to Hawaii to get an inkjet printer with ‘old’ typeface? They couldn’t just download the “Rather” font in DC?
Fogpig on April 27, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Zoom in even further…it’s all pixelated!
dmarie on April 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Obviously this document exists, but is it the real deal? Several folks over here have already picked it apart in less than an hour. At least we agree on the whole end of America thing, albeit for differing reasons.
abobo on April 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM
Apparently her Dad was a jerk, but unfortunately that doesn’t disqualify Obama from being the President.
DFCtomm on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Trump hired people that said this document didn’t exist.
And some people like the idea of him running for president.
America RIP.
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM
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I sure hope nobody has a clip of Trump the bankrupter saying that – DOH
Dave Rywall on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
(facepalm)
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
If this document is legitimate, why was Hawaii unwilling to certify Obama to be constitutionally eligible for the presidency in 2008?
Why was one OCON with the constitutionally eligible langugage used by 49 states and a different OCON without the constitutionally eligible language used by Hawaii?
Hawaii had always used constitutionally eligible language in past presidential elections.
OCON DOCS: Hawaii Ballot Chief…Grandma, Called Obama To Hawaii In 2008
Stayright on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
Simple doesn’t mean correct. Newton’s theories were far simpler than Einstein’s. However, Einstein’s turned out to be correct.
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
I still want his transcripts and writings released.
Magna cum laude or barely graduated makes no difference. I don’t care if his papers are on the merits of sharia law in a marxist society.
I don’t want a president who keeps secrets. Period.
John Deaux on April 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM
I love this!
Ed and all the “grown-up” and reasonable conservatives are dancing in the aisles celebrating Osama Obama’s “victory” over the eeeeevil “Birfers.”
Oooooh, he really pulled a fast one over the idiots who thought the lack of a BC might — might — be just another lie among the countless lies told by the Traitor-in-Chief.
Aside from the “natural-born” issue, which this new alleged certificate does not dispel, there’s plenty for the conspiracy theorists to look at and wonder where the Photoshopped version was created.
But that’s okay. Now that we’re all lovey-dovey and nicey-nicey with the Most Notorious Liar in America, would it be awful to ask to see old passports (which may have some damaging info within), college applications and grades, and at least some record of the few minutes of actual work he has done in his life?
Naw. We “Birfers” must now hang our heads in shame, while our betters continue to contort themselves into odd pretzel-shapes to make even more excuses for the Mohammedan Mouthpiece.
MrScribbler on April 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM
A black helicopter!
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Yes, that inset part looks like a photocopy of a bound document (like if you were copying something from a book at the library, the edge towards the binding would be curved away from the glass of the copier).
Just looks like a photocopy/scan of a doc that is then printed as a graphic onto a full sheet of controlled paper stock and stamped at the bottom. *shrug*
And I guess they finally found this in Hawaii? Isn’t this ostensibly the document that the governor there said was unable to be found?
Midas on April 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM
Has it been common knowledge that his mom was 18 when he was born?
That would mean in all likelihood she was 17, and a minor, when he was conceived. Since he was born in August, conception would have probably been in December. She would have been in high school at that time (assuming she graduated at the age of 18, like most people). Plus there would be the perceived scandal of a mixed-race relationship.
Just speculating, but could that fact be behind some of the reluctance to release the document? To save his mom from embarrassment?
connertown on April 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM
What a great justification, worthy of the greatest among us! :)
0bamessiah has been an amoral person at best in this nonsense He’s allowed to fester, and looking at just how callously He’s behaved towards Lakin and some others, I argue that He’s been acting immorally.
Do you remember the story of the Good Samaritan? Only one of the people in it was considered good. Two of the people in it did nothing to help the victim when they could have acted differently. Who was the best person in that story? Isn’t being a good person, like the Samaritan was, better than being a neutral or a negative one, which would be the category 0bamessiah fits into here? Do you even care? Obviously not! :)
If you believe that 0bamessiah’s immorality on the issue has been reprehensible, and that that was a much more important concern than than the release of His LFBC, does that mean you must be a Birther? If you believe that those people, the ones who’ve cared more about 0bamessiah’s “right” to withhold His LFBC than they’ve cared about His selfishness/lack of empathy, are immature losers, does that mean you must be a Birther?
I have no respect for the unintellectual Anti-Birthers who have been carrying 0bamessiah’s water for him, and especially not the ones who’ve done so cheerfully. Hopefully, you’ll understand how that feels! :)
Bizarro No. 1 on April 27, 2011 at 10:41 AM
U mad?
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Actually, I was thinking of people who get here by crossing the Rio Grande*, not Obama, but thanks anyway.
*“No matter who you are. No matter where you can came from. No matter what you look like. No matter whether your ancestors landed here on Ellis Island or came here on slave ships or came across the Rio Grande, we are all connected. We will rise and fall together. That’s the vision of America I’ve got, that’s the idea of the heart of America.” (Emphasis mine)
Buy Danish on April 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM
His alleged father’s race is “African”?
SouthernGent on April 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM
Did you use an alternate last name?
Vera on April 27, 2011 at 10:42 AM
If by “picked it apart,” you mean, “essentially confirmed its veracity, despite the Birthers inventing more constitutional law than the Ninth Circuit,” then they picked that thing damned clean.
KingGold on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
GLt,
I just want to be clear I am not lumping you in with the transcript whiners. You have always been reasoned and measured on this issue, as I think you are on other issues also.
But there are those who feel that Obama needs to do their dirty work for them. To those people, I say roll up your sleeves and make the magic happen. Bush didn’t make it easy for his opponents; I expect nothing more from Obama.
JohnGalt23 on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Of Course! It’s right in front of you, so it MUST be true. People wouldn’t put something in front of you that is wrong would they?
Why don’t we wait till knowledgeable people have offered their opinion on this PDF file?
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
I don’t know how this helps Obama except that I’m listening to a conservative talk radio guy who is using this release to make all callers doubting the authenticity of the release as kooks.
Looks like Trump AND Obama won.
ORconservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
This is hilarious, -the Bammie supporters claim that he is the most brilliantest president evah, because of rumors that he graduated magna cum laude, and then we find typically those years 76% of students had either magna or summa?
So yes it’s good to know that little Bammie was at least in the top 76% of his class. Sounds like his marks were probably comparable to President George W. Bush, and John F’n Kerry.
Outstanding!
slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Better to receive a face palm than to give a palm job!
abobo on April 27, 2011 at 10:43 AM
And Trollapalooza continues. Has Janeane Garolfalo taken the stage, yet?
kingsjester on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Agreed.
I really want to compare my grades with his. :-)
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
I don’t have any problem with you believing what you want.
Jim Treacher on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Are you so completely out of the loop that you don’t realize foreigners, especially Mexicans/Central Americans have been sneaking into Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and California for decades to have their babies in a US hospital so they could be US citizens? Have you never heard the term “Anchor Babies”?
To be a natural born US citizen you just have to be born on US soil, and yes, Hawaii was US soil in 1961.
Does that change we have a naked Marxist hater of all that makes the USA what it is? Nope. Now we can finally focus on exposing that instead of talking about this water under the bridge.
Even if he was proven to not be born in the US, by the time the removal proceeding finished in Congress the next Presidential election would be over.
Lets move on to exposing this incompetent America-hater.
PastorJon on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
Yeah, the founders engaged in a conspiracy to keep Foreign influence OUT of the White House. It’s called “Article II.”
Learn what you are talking about and you won’t sound so stupid.
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
…okay?
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:44 AM
That’s not good. Where do you go?
Cindy Munford on April 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM
That is a very valid question.
For quite a few reasons, I think that it is. Frankly, I think you should, too. It seems incredibly unrealistic to believe that this isn’t the real deal.
blink on April 27, 2011 at 10:45 AM
What do you think it should be? That’s no different than saying “Asian”. If you’re looking for African American, he wasn’t American so that would have been incorrect.
jonknee on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
I’m surprised, truth be told. Given racial sensitivities at the time, one would think that it would be listed as “Ne gro.”
KingGold on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Why does that page look like the page of a book on the upper part, but a sheet on the lower part?
It’s like one of those optical illusions.
fossten on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Huh? We wanted the certificate released…Now it is…that is a WIN in my book.
tinkerthinker on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Killed two birds here. Got rid of Trump and birther threads.
Vince on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Correct!
Why is it that people do not understand this document proves Barak Hussein Obama does not meet the natural born requirement of the United States Constitution and therefore is not eligible to be elected President of the United States?
The British Nationality Law of 1948 confers British Citizenship to anyone born of a British national. Kenya did not gain its independence until 1963. At age 18, his mother cannot confer United States citizenship. She had to be age 19 to do that.
jackal40 on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Question that Donald Trump should be asking the liberal media: why do I have to do your job for you?
slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
(facepalm)
Like he said, conspiracy theorist.
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Let’s see if someone else remembers.
Say, Good Lt. Would you happen to recall Jim Treacher dabbling in Birtherism back in 2009? I believe you two got into a number of heated arguments about the issue.
crr6 on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
With all due respect Ed you miss the point! He’s NOT eligible based on the pure simple FACT he’s NOT a natural born citizen…his father is Kenyan. Why is this so difficult to understand? Obama belongs in prison for impersonating someone he is not! This BC issue is NOT over and it’s high time the courts, congress and ALL citizens rise up and DO something to END this charade!!
Section 2, Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution states, and I quote, No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Why must we always have to educate the liberal/progressives/RINO’s in U.S. history? Here, I’ll make it easy for you and give you a link for the constitution so you can read it for yourself. Be enlightened! http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec1
lyfsatrip on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
“We don’t have time for this silly stuff, we have better things to do.”
As Obama travels to Chicago to go on Oprah….LOL
idesign on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Yeah, our side was Duke Wellington and Your side was Napoleon. The Jack@ss in chief was finally forced to produce what we were demanding to see all along. All the while, you trolls kept saying “he’s already released it!”
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Seroiusly Ed do you think a President who played the issue like this makes him MORE trusted or LIKED in the public view?
Trump won. Trump understands like no one else what Obama was up to in painting his opponants as lunatics FROM THE BEGINNING. Once you and others get over the relief you seem to be feeling about the birther issue the question will start to be asked BY EVERYONE. “WHY!!!”
and there is not an answer for Obama other than I am an a$$hole who wanted to smear my political opponents and THAT is the real damage that is YET to come.
Won’t surprise me if it doesn’t start with the RUSH LIMBAUGH show at 12:00PM today. Rush has tipped his hand this is what he will push next. Why Obama let this go on? and no one will ignore what Rush is saying about Obama and his integrity.
Conan on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
This should obviously be the GOP’s center issue of their platform in 2012.
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
I agree – threadwinner.
gwelf on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Likely to spare his grandmother, as she was still living when he announced his candidacy.
But Hillary Clinton could hardly have made an issue of this, since there is still a great deal of suspicion around her own husband’s birth claims. Republicans couldn’t really go there after Bristol Palin’s pregnancy was revealed either. Obama himself said in numerous speeches that his mother was a teenager when he was born.
rockmom on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Now where’s the form that proves he’s not an idiot?
mjk on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Can anyone explain the difference at 600% zoom the numbers under “Department of Health” (top right of cert)?
Anybody?
Just wondering….
Kokonut on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Here’s a guy that’s apparently never read the Constitution and stopped studying US History in 8th Grade
Fed45 on April 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Are you sure that shouldn’t be spelled “Burnie”?
JohnGalt23 on April 27, 2011 at 10:49 AM
I guess I owe Obama an apology. All this time I thought he was a lying sack of…. and it turns out he is just an honest, dedicated public servant after all.
(Only the Supreme Court can decide if indeed Obama is a “natural born citizen” and they will never take it up.)
VBMax on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
And yet you’re STILL pretending this proves nothing, aren’t you?
The COLB showed what this showed. All you did was make a stupid conspiracy theory stick to the political right.
Congratulations.
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Here you go: anyone can create anything in a PDF file, because the latest editors allow damn near anything you’d find in a typical photo manipulation software suite. So nothing in any PDF file can ever be trusted, and you have to have the birth certificate in your hands before you dare believe it’s true, and EVEN THEN we could be in the Matrix!
MadisonConservative on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
With all due respect Ed you miss the point! He’s NOT eligible based on the pure simple FACT he’s NOT a natural born citizen…his father is Kenyan. Why is this so difficult to understand? Obama belongs in prison for impersonating someone he is not! This BC issue is NOT over and it’s high time the courts, congress and ALL citizens rise up and DO something to END this charade!!
Section 2, Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution states, and I quote, No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
Why must we always have to educate the liberal/progressives/RINO’s in U.S. history? Here, I’ll make it easy for you and give you a link for the constitution so you can read it for yourself. Be enlightened! http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec1
lyfsatrip on April 27, 2011 at 10:47 AM
——
When will your time machine be ready?
You need to go back and rectify this:
HERBERT HOOVER’S MOTHER WAS BORN IN CANADA
OH NO OH NO
Dave Rywall on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
The PDF looks like my son’s birth certificate (from Kailua Medical Center). There is little surprising in it. A child born in 1961 has no capability to manage or affect what is in his birth certificate, or otherwsie care whether it says something about him.
The document is authentic and shows there has been much ado about nothing. But the incident itself does show that only a determined opposition and major public pressure will be able to force the Administration and the press propaganda arm of the Dhimmicrat party to produce evidence required by law. Since the Dhimmicrat party is the party of lawyers, every problem looks like a legal problem. (Or a union problem, or a Hollywood problem…I guess they’ve run out of most other permanent constituencies lately)
The lesson is this: Unless we are willing to stand up and fight for our rights, they will be taken away from us and we will never garner the support necessary to keep America solvent, and safe. The Goebbels arm of the Dhimmicrat party constantly buries stories unfavorable to their agenda. Unless we do our own investigations and publish the results, the word will never get out.
Tyrannies are made in such ways. Wishing it wasn’t so won’t stop the national press and state police forces from tracking down every one of us, building dossiers against us and turning families against each other, kids spying on parents and reporting disloyalty to teachers or police, who then come in the middle of the night to question, intimidate, and arrest (just like the Gestapo, NKVD, Hitler Youth and October Revolutionists of the 30s and 40s).
Think it won’t happen here? Think again!
Subsunk
Subsunk on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
No, but plenty of pseudo-conservatives have .
Kinda like the theory of evolution. Just a theory right? You do realize that from teenage vandalism, to corporate embezzlement, to union thuggery, to tax avoidance, to actual acts of political subversion – conspiracies are among the most common crimes in America and are an established FACT of life. Deal with it Dorothy, Kansas ain’t coming back anytime soon.
abobo on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Ed has been disingenuous on this from the beginning.
Throughout all of this I have learned so much about where I get my information. Regardless of the truth about Obama, many bloggers and famous writers, newsmen, radio talkers, and other opinion makers have proven they are either incompetent, scared, or incapable critical analysis. Ed remains unwilling to ask the tough questions about Obama’s past. Even if legitimate, this document is a very small part of a large story.
Stayright on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
O_o
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
FIFY
fossten on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Thank goodness. Although I doubt this will satisfy people any more than the “fire can’t melt steel” folks were satisfied. Anything can be Photoshopped and this would be pretty easy to Photoshop. Esp. as people have now learned that documents generated in the 60s would have to be forged on a typewriter and not in Windows 7. ;o)
I do have to ask the folks here who insist that both parents need to be citizens at the time of the child’s birth to cite their sources for this. If that’s true, then why do we hear Rubio and Jindal always being touted as potential candidates? Were their parents U.S. citizens when they were born? I am admittedly not clear on the SCOTUS position on what defines “natural born” but I am hard-pressed to believe it’s the case that both parents must be citizens. How is that supposed to square with the notion of birthright citizenship, which has been recognized for the last 150 years?
I still say his passport and possible Indonesian citizenship is the more interesting conspiracy theory. At least that one has some merit since it would have been a choice he made consciously as an adult. If you’re going to dig for scandals, this one would be more useful.
As for his grades, it would be nice to see them, but judging from the quality of his writing and his total inability to grasp basic economic principles, I don’t know if we need to see a transcript to know he’s not a genius.
NoLeftTurn on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
Quoting Reagan to Carter:
“There you go again…”
Didn’t learn your lesson about jumping to conclusions the first time? Every Liberal media outlet and many conservative ones proclaimed it over when he released the short form. It obviously wasn’t over.
If everything checks out legit, it’s over.
DiogenesLamp on April 27, 2011 at 10:51 AM
(Only the Supreme Court can decide if indeed Obama is a “natural born citizen” and they will never take it up.)
VBMax on April 27, 2011 at 10:50 AM
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You are aware that half a dozen POTUS’s had parents not born in America, yes?
Because only a moron would claim that natural born means both mummy and daddy have to be born on US soil.
Dave Rywall on April 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM
Yeah. That rabbit hole just keeps going, doesn’t it?
Did you take the red pill or the blue?
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM
That seems a bit of a stretch, which Republican party leaders have pushed this issue? Has Mr. Trump been elected or nominated for anything in the Republican party? And finally, I wouldn’t base my opinions or actions in anyway to help “the party”, it is their job to accommodate the wishes of the people, not the people conforming to them. Blind allegiance is not the goal.
Cindy Munford on April 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM
You forgot your /
VegasRick on April 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Who cares about Rush Limbaugh? The people that listen to Rush already think Obama has no integrity and hate his guts so your point is moot. What this actually does it make it know to the Independents that ya’ll were the bunch of kooks that everyone was saying you are.
But JUST as I predicted yesterday, the nutjobs can’t accept any proof that goes against their narrative and when it is presented it is just either cried as a fake or they move on to something else.
Magnus on April 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM
@Midas: I looked at the document in Photoshop again. How odd. The background pattern runs parallel through the middle section and through the curved left section all the way to the left edge, so the middle section had to be xeroxed copied, thus giving it a slight curve, then someone put it into a graphics program, made it transparent, and placed it on the overall patterned template. I can tell they made it transparent because white still exists around the letters. But, why not just xerox the original document that is now the middle part and put the whole section into the template in white? Since they used a graphics program to make it transparent, they are giving fuel to the argument that further manipulation is possible.
bucktowndusty on April 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM
Joking aside, I DO think that THIS April 25 2011 reproduction should be physically shown to the press. As usual you’re unintentionally correct, a PDF in and of itself proves nothing.
abobo on April 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM
And you’ve proved nothing that the original release didn’t show.
So you’ve accomplished nothing.
THAT is why you fail.
Good Lt on April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM
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