Quotes of the day
posted at 10:49 pm on April 26, 2011 by Allahpundit
“The sponsors of California’s same-sex marriage ban said Monday that the recent disclosure by the federal judge who struck down Proposition 8 that he is in a long-term relationship with another man has given them new grounds to have his historic ruling overturned.
“Lawyers for the ban’s backers filed a motion in San Francisco’s U.S. District Court, arguing that Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker should have removed himself from the case or at least disclosed his relationship status because his ‘impartiality might reasonably be questioned.’
“‘Only if Chief Judge Walker had unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome of the case,’ attorneys for the coalition of religious and conservative groups that put Proposition 8 on the November 2008 ballot wrote.
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“Leslie Abramson, a scholar of judicial ethics at the University of Louisville law school, told TIME that Cooper has [one] part right. ‘In both federal and state courts, the Code of Judicial Conduct is supposed to be self-executing,’ Abramson said. ‘The judge is not supposed to await a motion to disqualify before considering the circumstances of the case or parties.’…
“Still, even if Cooper is wrong to argue that Walker’s interest in getting married — an assertion he does not support with facts — made him ineligible to hear the case, there still remain questions. Was Walker wrong to keep quiet about his orientation during the trial? Why not simply disclose it and continue with the case?
“Abramson notes that such an approach ‘carries the most potential for transparency.’ But there’s a downside too. If judges must reveal the personal details of their lives, they could end up being deposed by fact-finding attorneys hoping to unveil nuggets of their past.”
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“Experts in judicial ethics said Tuesday that carefully parsed line of reasoning is unlikely to prevail…
“Retired California state Judge Jeffrey Rothman said bias claims have arisen in the past surrounding judges with strong religious views. But he noted that the bar for disqualification is purposefully set high. Lawyers representing a clinic that performed abortions, for example, would not be able to challenge a devoutly Catholic judge, he said.
“‘They would get absolutely nowhere with such a challenge unless that judge had gone out and made statements or speeches saying he believed that Roe v. Wade ought to be overturned if that case ever came before them,’ Rothman said. ‘The question is, can the beliefs be set aside and the judge decide the case on its merits and be fair.’”
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“But it also must be presumed that Chief Judge Walker had a nonwaivable conflict as well. For if at any time while this case was pending before him, Chief Judge Walker and his partner determined that they desired, or might desire, to marry, Chief Judge Walker plainly had an ‘interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding.’ 28 U.S.C. § 455(b)(4). Indeed, such a personal interest in his own marriage would place Chief Judge Walker in precisely the same shoes as the two couples who brought the case.
“Such a clear and direct stake in the outcome would create a nonwaivable conflict, and recusal would have been mandatory. Chief Judge Walker thus had a duty to disclose not only the facts concerning his relationship, but also his marriage intentions, for the parties (and the public) were entitled to know whether his waivable conflict was actually a nonwaivable conflict mandating his disqualification. Only if Chief Judge Walker had unequivocally disavowed any interest in marrying his partner could the parties and the public be confident that he did not have a direct personal interest in the outcome of the case in violation of Section 455(b)(4). Because he did not do so when the case was assigned to him, and has not done so since, it must be presumed that he has an interest in marrying his partner and therefore was in fact the ‘judge in his own case.’”
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“Opponents of same-sex marriage are arguing, in effect, that because Walker was in a long term same-sex relationship, he stood to benefit personally from Prop 8 being overturned. They argue, naturally, that the issue is not Walker’s sexuality per se, but his relationship status. But by that logic the only way a gay or lesbian judge could rule impartially on matters involving gay rights is if they’re celibate.
“The problem is that this same logic could be applied to a straight, married judge hearing the case. After all, supporters of the same-sex marriage ban are arguing that marriage equality is so damaging to the institution of marriage that the government has a vital interest in making sure gays and lesbians can’t get married. That means that a straight, married judge couldn’t be expected to be impartial, either — after all, according to supporters of Prop 8, ‘the further deinstitutionalization of marriage caused by the legalization of same-sex marriage,’ would directly impact married heterosexuals. Therefore, a heterosexual, married judge could be seen as having just as much ‘skin in the game’ as Judge Walker.”
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Resist We Much on April 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM
That link from the Jester site is verrrry interesting. I suppose the powers that be could be playing dumb and saying we think they acted alone so other conspirators aren’t put on notice.
mikeyboss on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Are they sure it wasn’t a Ben Affleck movie?
RadClown on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 AM
The one guy — a boxer, no advanced education. The other guy, a pothead college student, no technical education.
The difficult part is (a) detonator and (b) radio control of detonation. Would appear difficult, yes? Apparently not. The info is readily available on the interwebs. Like here. If you can use Google, then read and look at pictures, yes you can create a remote detonator out of toy parts.
Welcome to the 21st century.
SunSword on April 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Yep. And even that example is overly complicated.
stvnscott on April 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Here’s the real problem believing these two did this alone.
Where?
Tamerlan had his wife and mother living with him. So the wife has to be an accomplice. I wouldn’t doubt the mother is.
Jahar had several roommates. Some of these winners are being arrested and released, rinse repeat.
Neither had a job that provided the workspace.
So to believe no one else was involved, means they bought the supplies just a few days before and built it that morning, during the race. With no training or testing.
Along with the other IED’s.
And several guns.
And hundreds of rounds.
Just got it all over the weekend.
The Feds are lying that no one else was involved. Whatever statement Jahar gave them fit their needs.
Hell, he could have said yes to a question that asked “was anyone else involved with the Marathon bombing”?
That’s totally different than “Are you working with any groups”?
budfox on April 23, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Looks like Tamerlin may have murdered a few friends on September 11th 2011…
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Smoothies on April 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM
All I can say is “no shiite sherlock”.
dentarthurdent on April 23, 2013 at 12:33 PM
Yup, so obviously the laws that make it illegal to make a bomb, and the laws that make it illegal to kill and maim lots of people are just not effective – so all we need is some more laws to make those things more illegal and we can solve the problem.
dentarthurdent on April 23, 2013 at 12:37 PM
I’m sure a guy who’s blown people up, shot a cop in cold blood and tried to kill some more in a getaway, would never tell a lie.
IndieDogg on April 23, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Exactly how would the RUSSIANS have pegged one of the two “lone wolves” operating in America as a terrorist if this is true. Are they doing a better job of monitoring American internet traffic than our own intelligence agencies. Either that or our govt is lying to us – again. We are screwed either way.
LarryinLA on April 23, 2013 at 1:18 PM
It was a joke.
farsighted on April 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Acted alone?? Really??
Where did the MONEY come from?? For the clothes, the cars, the apartments, the GYM and boxing. I guess they just came in from the internet as well.
Michael73501 on April 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM
I hear the term ‘self radicalized’ all over the news. They can’t understand how the bombers don’t have a direct connection to terrorists, but can do this.
It is imperative to understand it is not ‘radical’ Islam.
It is Islam – the antithesis of western civilization.
TfromV on April 23, 2013 at 8:18 PM
They’ll conveniently come out with information that attacks the internet, and freedom but they won’t tell us who funded these guys. Probably because it was the Sauds or the FBI.
fatlibertarianinokc on April 23, 2013 at 8:46 PM
It’s still too early to say what his motivations were, but I have a hunch he’s a tea partier.
/msm
jhffmn on April 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM
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