Are Republicans winning the deficit debate?

posted at 2:15 pm on April 26, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Who’s winning the budget battle in the hearts and minds of the electorate?  After round one, a new USA Today/Gallup survey shows that Rep. Paul Ryan is holding his own against Barack Obama in support for specific plans.  On trust to handle the deficit issue, the GOP is scoring big:

A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds that House Republicans, who took a political risk in passing a controversial budget blueprint last week, have survived so far with some key advantages intact as Congress moves toward the debate on raising the debt ceiling, passing the 2012 budget and enacting a long-term deficit plan.

Americans are evenly divided between the deficit plan proposed by President Obama and the one drafted by House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan, and those surveyed put more trust in Republicans than Democrats to handle the federal budget and the economy.

One of the most significant takeaways is that Republicans have defined the debate as a spending problem.  The poll shows that by a 3-1 margin, voters see the deficit as an issue of unrestrained spending rather than a lack of revenue.  Almost half of respondents want the issue addressed through cuts alone, 48%, while only 11% want tax hikes only and 37% want a mixture of the two.  The GOP leads Democrats by 12 points on budget management, as well as on the economy by 5 points.

This makes it clear that Obama failed to move the needle with his demagogic attack on Paul Ryan.  USA Today’s Susan Page doesn’t break down the partisan breakdown on those questions, but clearly Obama’s approach of promising ambiguous cuts combined with class-warfare tax hikes didn’t sway anyone two weeks ago.  Nor did Obama succeed in making Ryan look radical.  Obama also has a bigger problem than Ryan, whose detailed budget plan has already been presented.  Obama’s “plan” consists at the moment of vague generalities, and when Obama has to offer details, the popularity of his plan is likely to drop even further.

Ryan has to be rather pleased with the level of support he gets in this survey, especially since the types of changes he makes generates opposition when broken out individually.  Luckily, the approach laid out by the President fares even worse, with 71% worried that it doesn’t go far enough in addressing the issue, and almost two-thirds (62%) believing it to be an excuse to raise taxes.

The Obama Budget (Plan A) and the Obama Budget (Plan B) have both failed, as well as Obama’s demagoguery.  How long before the White House claims another mulligan on FY2012?


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a new USA Today/Gallup survey shows that Rep. Paul Ryan is holding his own against Barack Obama in support for specific plans.

Heh, the Left, with their Thug in Chief, wanted to make Ryan the face of America.

America loves Ryan!

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM

The Obama Budget (Plan A) and the Obama Budget (Plan B) have both failed, as well as Obama’s demagoguery. How long before the White House claims another mulligan on FY2012?

Probably not long. How many years now has Obama pledged to finally focus like a laser on jobs? It’ll be the same with the deficit. The problem is he’s only committed to one thing regarding that issue and it’s to raise taxes.

Doughboy on April 26, 2011 at 2:18 PM

The poll shows that by a 3-1 margin, voters see the deficit as an issue of unrestrained spending rather than a lack of revenue.

Especially when The One submits his own budget proposal with a $1.3 TRILLION deficit built in.

GarandFan on April 26, 2011 at 2:19 PM

Well lets see if the r’s will follow through with this or not. They need to do ads, be on every station for interviews to tell the truth about our debt. bho and team have no plan but to raise taxes and slam r’s. If gas and food continue to skyrocket, bho will not be able to blame the r’s or Bush for this. bho own’s it now.
L

letget on April 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Wonder what the party affiliation split was for that survey. If it’s as slanted as the WaPo poll cited earlier, Obama and the Dems are in deep doodoo.

piglet on April 26, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Considering that the majority of the entire MSM is against them, I’d have to say that they’re holding their own.

hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 2:22 PM

Jobs, jobs, jobs

Gas prices, food prices, housing and etc.

Liars, liars, liars

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:22 PM

The economy is going to hell in a handbag and Obama is either playing golf are out trying to fill his own coffers so he can keep screwing this country. So, I would hope people would notice.

Blake on April 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

B-b-but Ryan wants you to eat dog food – under a bridge!

forest on April 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

I’m sure that a hard hitting editorial by Nobel Award winning economist Paul Krugman would convince skeptical Americans.

/s

John Deaux on April 26, 2011 at 2:24 PM

If only these americans would shut up bho could get on with socializing this country

paulrtaylor on April 26, 2011 at 2:25 PM

almost two-thirds (62%) believing it to be an excuse to raise taxes.

The public is not as dumb as they think.Working class hero is not flying too high.

docflash on April 26, 2011 at 2:27 PM

America loves Ryan!

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:17 PM

I have a relative who is “moderate”, maybe slightly left of center, but doesn’t follow politics very closely. She heard a Ryan speech on television, and loves him. She said he was the only politician she had seen who explained the country’s current economic situation in a way that made sense.

mbs on April 26, 2011 at 2:27 PM

“This makes it clear that Obama failed to move the needle with his demagogic attack on Paul Ryan.”

Too bad there was no Economics 101 in that Alinsky play book…

… Time to go back to the Alinsky play book.

/

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2011 at 2:27 PM

This admin, because they have the media safely tucked into their arses, believe that they can get away with fooling the entire U.S. American population, again.

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Speaking of USAToday polls, guess who else is winning the debate?

“Birthers”:

Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA

Fringe wackos, indeed.

Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Obama’s “plan” consists at the moment of vague generalities, and when Obama has to offer details, the popularity of his plan is likely to drop even further.

BO is a vague generality.
He will never offer up details, & when he does, they will be fabricated outright lies.
Unless he comes clean & says:
Capitalism must die & in its place we will institute a full blown socialist regime.
Nothing will change.
Except hopefully the attitude & education of American voters on this subject.

Badger40 on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Oh, Gawd I hope so! We have been doing the same thing over, and over, and over, and over, and over again expecting a different result each time (isn’t that the definition of insanity?) and here we’ve come a little bit closer to throwing off the choke hold the democrats have had on us for the past 40 + years. I love how they keep blaming the republicans for the economical problems when they’ve been the monopoly on our government for almost 100 years now (if not more). Even with republican presidents, they still had to deal with democrat controlled Congresses. And when the republicans final had a majority a few years ago, it was so razor thin and didn’t last long anyway. And once again we’re dominated by democrats. Unless we get rid of the yoke of democrats in the government, nothing will ever change. We’d get the same results if we keep hitting ourselves on the head with a hammer repeatedly. I live in the District of Columbia and we’re having a special city government election today with the same democrat retreads they put up everytime. We’ve had a democrat monopoly in this city for as long as I can remember. Nothing ever changes except them running the city into the ground. Sigh…

mozalf on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

You can fool some of the people some of the time, and all of those zany liberals all of the time.

Roy Rogers on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Wait for the DNC commercials with Grandma & Grandpa eating dog food out of a can, in a wheel chair, living on a metal grate, under a bridge, splitting aspirin tablets into 1/8ths in order to make the pill last a week.

portlandon on April 26, 2011 at 2:32 PM

B-b-but Ryan wants you to eat dog food – under a bridge!

forest on April 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

Even IF that were true, that’s something I’d definitely consider, if it meant my children wouldn’t inherit the mess Obutthead is intent on leaving them.

If we want prospertity, security, and freedom back, Obama is not the answer, and I would hope more people would be willing to make a few sacrifices to insure he’s not re-elected, and this never happens again.

capejasmine on April 26, 2011 at 2:33 PM

President Obama has more interviews with local reporters scheduled on Tuesday so he can talk about the deficit. He’ll sit down in the Map Room with reporters from a handful of politically important states — Georgia, Ohio, Virginia and Michigan. The White House says Obama plans to “discuss his vision for reducing our debt and bringing down our deficit, based on the values of shared responsibility and shared prosperity.”

From the Euphemist in Chief

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:34 PM

That photo looks like a great Presidential Race to me!

ronsfi on April 26, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Speaking of USAToday polls, guess who else is winning the debate?

“Birthers”:

Still, in the USA TODAY poll, only 38% of Americans say Obama definitely was born in the USA

Fringe wackos, indeed.

Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

I don’t think most Americans(even most Republicans) believe that, but I also think most folks don’t like being sold a bill of goods. The Obama candidacy is one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the American public by a corrupt and morally bankrupt media.

People who voted for “hopenchange” have no one to blame but themselves for being suckered, but until Election Day 2012 when they can atone for that mistake, they have to take it out on someone. This is the next best thing.

Doughboy on April 26, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Doughboy on April 26, 2011 at 2:35 PM

Perhaps the poll includes a lot of folks who are just expressing “buyer’s remorse”, but it is striking that what is being described in the MSM as a “whacko fringe” movement, actually describes the majority of the American people.

Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM

How long before Obama publishes his new Constitution Verfassung?

Roy Rogers on April 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM

The economy is going to hell in a handbag and Obama is either playing golf are out trying to fill his own coffers so he can keep screwing this country. So, I would hope people would notice.

Blake on April 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

.
Someone noticed. Who?

News2Use on April 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Boehner to Obama “Time to grow up

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM

The poll shows that by a 3-1 margin, voters see the deficit as an issue of unrestrained spending rather than a lack of revenue.

This is common sense. After the “stimulus” plans failed for the most part and then we were subjected to the silly slogans about jobs saved or created nonsense… it is simply very clear what has happened. Our government went on a spending binge.

Since most people have over spent and had to deal with the consequences of paying for moments of money stupidity… the lessons of everyday real life are pretty easy to apply.

You can’t get out of debt by raising your credit card limit!

While that may be a short term fix to keep the lights on… you have to tackle the eating out too much, buying the latest and greatest technology, wearing the newest designer jeans… you have to get real about how much money there is in the bank account every month.

Unless, like Donald Trump you plan to play around with the bankruptcy laws…

Which might be some of Trump’s appeal. He knows how to survive bankruptcy. I hope that isn’t what unlies his numbers. But I think it’s possible.

petunia on April 26, 2011 at 2:47 PM

We will win because the facts and figures are so obvious…even the MSM can’t overlook them.

right2bright on April 26, 2011 at 2:48 PM

News2Use, the meat of it

It’s unbelievable to me that you spent last week in campaign mode, gallivanting around the country to start raising the billion dollars for your reelection bid that is still 19 months away “while Rome burns.” Our economy is in the tank; jobs are as scarce as ever; you’re asking Congress to let you incur even more unsustainable, immoral, freedom-stealing government debt; and many of our brave men and women in uniform are shaking their heads in disbelief over your befuddled military directions. Yet instead of working with Congress and a wise multitude of advisers to fix some problems, you choose all this campaigning, already? As was recently asked: When do you ever just “roll up your sleeves, unplug the teleprompter” and do the job of governing and administrating for which voters hired you?

I know, I know, granted you will be even busier very soon. After all, golf season kicks into high gear shortly. NBA and NHL brackets await. Summer vacations and that all-consuming campaign whistle stop tour will no doubt slam you. But I would ask, while the rest of us are also busy working, saving, planning ahead, fighting to protect our Constitution, and trying to keep up with where and why you’re spending our Department of Defense funds – I’d ask that you find time to tell Americans the truth about the state of our union and what you are doing to find solutions to our challenges. Please start with explaining Libya.

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Live by the polls, you die by the polls. Obama reminds me of the feather in Forrest Gump, which ever way the wind blows. Let’s get the snowball rolling and take back our government in 2012. Now that’s change I can believe in.

MJZZZ on April 26, 2011 at 2:50 PM

Count it!

/crr6

fossten on April 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Obama: “Another brilliant idea – let’s make Ryan the face of the GOP!”

*golf clap*

Good job, champ. You done goofed.

Vyce on April 26, 2011 at 2:53 PM

So much for the Dimmocrats’ message that the GOP drove the car into a ditch and are standing around sipping slurpees or something.

UltimateBob on April 26, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I don’t want the debt ceiling raised because I think the consequences of such are far better than any deal that can actually be extracted from the current regime…So, we won’t be able to borrow any more money, our credit rating will suffer, and we will have to struggle forward on our own revenues….WOW…Isn’t that the ULTIMATE balanced budget???? Sure, we will have to pay the interest on current debt first, then live on the balance of our revenues for all other expenditures….How quaint…all other expenditures will necessarily be downsized….or eliminated…Non-essential employees will be cut from the trough, or teat…therefor, less government less intrusion…Less tyranny….More Freedom… Capitalism….businesses…jobs…and ultimately, more revenue….Mr. Boehner, DO NOT RAISE THAT DEBT CEILING!!!!!

b4lucy on April 26, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Smartest POTUS evah has made a big mistake in targeting Paul Ryan.

Ryan has all kinds of facts and figures at his disposal, has a knack for making clear, concise arguments, and is personally likeable. He would clean Obama’s clock in a debate.

Remember the healthcare summit where Barry was very obviously doing a slow burn while Ryan was talking? Thin-skinned and arrogant, POTUS would become hugely frustrated by his inability to keep up, and resort to truly nasty demogoguery.

But he can only scream that that nice young man wants to kill granny so many times before even granny begins to wonder if the screamer is an brainless whackjob.

Meredith on April 26, 2011 at 2:56 PM

Maybe Ryan is doing so well because more and more people are starting to realize…

… that toilet

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Boehner to Obama “Time to grow up“
Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 2:46 PM

But he doesn’t want to! He’s a Toys-R-Us kid president!

Vyce on April 26, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Oops…

I was going to say that Maybe Ryan is doing so well because more and more people are starting to realize…

… that toilet paper is more valuable than that green paper in their wallets.

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2011 at 2:58 PM

How long before the White House claims another mulligan on FY2012?

Triple bogey and he’s not off the tee yet—-lovely!

Rovin on April 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM

They need to slash the spending to the point where there is no political argument from the Democrats to raise taxes. If Republicans don’t slash the spending and if they do raise the debt ceiling, they’ll lose by not raising taxes and they’ll lose by raising taxes.

The pain from the spending cuts will subside by election day, and Democrats won’t be able to campaign on returning to irresponsible spending. The way to create Republican voters is to force self reliance on them. If you allow people to remain in a parasitic existence, you are ensuring Democrat voters forever.

Future budget blueprints are a charade. It’s now or never.

Buddahpundit on April 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM

Live by the polls, you die by the polls. Obama reminds me of the feather in Forrest Gump, which ever way the wind blows.

MJZZZ on April 26, 2011 at 2:50 PM

I think it was Dick Morris who used to tell a story of the Clinton White House… they would have daily staff meetings where they would discuss not policy, but polls. Teh Slick would make policy according whatever was popular that day.

I imagine Øbama “governs” pretty much the same way.

UltimateBob on April 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM

So much for the Dimmocrats’ message that the GOP drove the car into a ditch and are standing around sipping slurpees or something.

UltimateBob on April 26, 2011 at 2:55 PM

Yeah, and Duh Won kept the keys to the car ’cause the adults are in charge, right?

He owns this mess Big Time.

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

AS GO GAS PRICES, SO GOES 2012? It was already clear that rising gas prices have not been doing wonders for President Obama’s poll numbers — Obama, himself, acknowledged as much last week. Now here’s more evidence: “With gas up 26 percent this year to an average $3.88 a gallon, seven in 10 Americans in this ABC News/Washington Post poll report financial hardship as a result, six in 10 say they’ve cut back on driving — and, among those hardest hit, Obama’s ratings are suffering,” writes ABC polling analyst Gary Langer. The poll found “the president’s job approval rating 13 points lower among people who say the price of gas is causing them hardship. Forty-three percent of them approve of the president, vs. 56 percent of those who report no hardship. And among the four in 10 feeling ‘serious’ hardship, just 39 percent approve of Obama’s work in office.”

Here’s the key statistic: “In re-election terms, 53 percent of those who are feeling serious hardship as a result of gas prices say they definitely will not vote for Obama in 2012 — 14 points more than say so among those who are feeling either less-than-serious hardship, or none at all.”

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

BO is a vague generality.
He will never offer up details, & when he does, they will be fabricated outright lies.
Unless he comes clean & says:
Capitalism must die & in its place we will institute a full blown socialist regime.
Nothing will change.
Except hopefully the attitude & education of American voters on this subject.

Badger40 on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 PM

Could not agree more.

search4truth on April 26, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Even the liberals at Factcheck admitted that little Bammie was lying his face off on the budget debate: Obama Repeatedly Lied In Critique of Ryan Plan

slickwillie2001 on April 26, 2011 at 3:02 PM

What the country has is a former community organizer who makes broad policy pronouncements without filling in the details that will be left to someone else — say another commission that is announced with great fanfare. As they say, “we’ve been there and done that.”

Sadly, voters usually get what they deserve and what they got two years ago was historic proof of that. If it sounds as though I’m fed up with President Barack Obama, that’s exactly how I want it to sound.

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 3:03 PM

The problem with BO is that no matter how you dress it up, it still stinks.

BadMojo on April 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM

six in 10 say they’ve cut back on driving

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 3:00 PM

There’s no doubt that people can organize their trips to stores, doing errands, etc. better. However, when gas eventually reaches $6/gallon, and minimum wage is around $7/hour before withholding Barf’s numbers will drop again. People living in areas where they have to drive 10-20 miles to work for a minimum wage, part time job are not feeling the ‘hopey, dopey luuuuv’ these days. They do feel the ‘change’, and they don’t like it.

Meanwhile, as long as they can afford their utility bills they can flip on the news and listen to Dopey and the First Fatty yakking about alternative fuels and eating less junk food as the Imperial Pair party on.

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Many in the tea party movement feel an affinity for Rand. One of its most-admired politicians, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Paul Ryan, has said Rand is “the reason I got involved in public service.”

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2011 at 3:11 PM

B-b-but Ryan wants you to eat dog food – under a bridge!

forest on April 26, 2011 at 2:23 PM

You forgot dead grandma. Never forget dead grandma.

joejm65 on April 26, 2011 at 3:14 PM

I imagine Øbama “governs” pretty much the same way.

UltimateBob on April 26, 2011 at 2:59 PM

The rumor is, Soetoro has pretty much abdicated the office to Valerie Jarrett, a hard core radical progressive.

So to understand what the white house is doing (or not doing), you have to understand her, not him.

Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 3:24 PM

Anyone checked out Val’s family tree? Scary, scary, scary.

You hit the nail on the head.

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:26 PM

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:26 PM

It explains Obama’s failure to release an Easter statement in spite of doing so for mozlem holidays. I wonder if Val was behind the Georgetown University religious symbol cover up?

Roy Rogers on April 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Roy Rogers on April 26, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Val’s father was/is Iranian. Her mother is/was African American. They settled in Chicago and have ties that go way back to the socialist/communist movement in that city. Of course, they were deeply connected with the Daley machine.

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Cody1991 on April 26, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Why was I not surprised?

Despite the information being easily accessed, most Americans are likely still unaware that Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran, and spent her first five years in that country. Like Barack Obama, Jarrett’s initial experience was not as an American, but an American/Muslim hybrid. According to an American Spectator report in August of 2008, the Obama campaign had initiated an aggressive program to hide Jarrett’s Iranian background. This program received significant help from certain media figures who were only too happy to comply with the Obama camp’s request that Jarrett’s Middle East ties were not made a public matter – even as Iranian.com declared Jarrett its “Iranian of the Day” that same month of August. Also during that same time period, Barack Obama admitted to the New York Times that, “I trust her (Jarrett) to speak for me, particularly when we’re dealing with delicate issues” and that he ran every important decision by her first.

Jarrett’s family history is rife with radical ties, including those of her father-in-law Vernon Jarrett, a supporter of such communist-American icons of the 1940s as Langston Hughes. Vernon Jarrett was the strongest link to Chicago’s Hyde Park environment that would be of such great influence on Valerie Jarrett, and then through her, shape both Barack and Michelle Obama’s adult outlook upon American and its place in the world. Again largely ignored by the media in 2008, Chicago’s Hyde Park was home to such radical figures as the socialist Arnold Wolf, an anti-Israel rabbi (yes, those do in fact exist) who had pushed for increased support for the terrorist PLO. At around that same time Rabbi Wolf was also deeply involved with the Chicago Communist Party. Mr. Wolf declared in a 2008 Chicago Sun Times interview of other Hyde Park elites’ excitement over the political potential of a young Barack Obama a decade earlier, declaring they believed to have found in Obama, “A guy who could sell our product, and sell it with splendor!”

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-politics/the-ulsterman-report-valerie-jarrett-and-the-muslim-brotherhood/#ixzz1KfBxnecW

Roy Rogers on April 26, 2011 at 4:33 PM