Report: Ron Paul to make “important announcement” in Iowa tomorrow
posted at 6:25 pm on April 25, 2011 by Allahpundit
The two-time presidential candidate is scheduled to make his announcement during a press conference in the state capital of Des Moines at 4:45 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, his political committee LibertyPAC said in a release.
The move signals that Paul is likely to make a formal move regarding his likely presidential campaign. On Monday, Paul said he expects to make the decision whether to run “within a month.”
So instead of getting 5-10 percent of the vote, now Gary Johnson will get one percent. Which makes me wonder: Did Paul, who once said he’d probably support Johnson if he didn’t run himself, give Johnson a heads-up about his intentions? Seems strange for GJ to bother running when he not only has no chance at a majority but now no chance at the libertarian vote either.
If you’re wondering why Ron would choose to run again when Rand has dropped hints about being interested, Politico’s write-up of the new Objectivist Camelot has a (probable) answer:
“He comes across as more mainstream, at least in appearance,” said Rep. Paul. “And I think he’ll be a better legislator – he’ll offer amendments, get bills passed. I’m not a good legislator.”…
Indeed, even if Ron does run again for the White House this year, it’s clear that Rand is already on his way down the same path– and could be a much more serious contender than his father ever was. He’s privately telling Republicans that he thinks Obama will be difficult to beat – a hint that he’ll hold off until 2016 when there is an open race and his dad is likely to have hung it up.
“Ron Paul is the pioneer but Rand Paul is the really the future,” said Dave Carney, a veteran GOP consultant who worked for George H.W. Bush and is now Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s top political adviser. “Rand Paul is a serious national figure and could be a big-time player.
So this will be a last hurrah for dad and then Rand, with six years’ experience, will tackle the Rubios and Christies in 2016 when, assuming Obama wins reelection, the field will be wide open on both sides. Meanwhile, here’s Ron on “The View” this morning joking that he doesn’t think a run by his son is likely to happen this year since “There’s a little bit of discipline in the family.” Stick with it halfway through for the obligatory passage about the military-industrial complex.
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That would be Mitt Romney.
In the wake of the national health-care debate that has awakened the American people to their loss of liberty, Romney is still defending the indefensible – his support of similar legislation in Massachusetts during his term as governor.
“Overall, ours is a model that works,” he said. “We solved our problem at the state level. Like it or not, it was a state solution. Why is it that President Obama is stepping in and saying ‘one size fits all’?”
So, according to Romney, socialism is OK as long as it is imposed on people at the state level.
Romneycare is bankrupting the state. Treasurer Timothy Cahill calls it a “fiscal train wreck.” The projected cost in 2006 was $88 million. The actual cost to date is $4 billion. Massachusetts would be broke already if it weren’t for federal Medicaid reimbursements and bailouts from Washington.
nazo311 on April 25, 2011 at 11:43 PM
The head of the executive branch is a leader, if you want them to be or no. How is RonPaul going to bring back the “golden age”, when he can’t even pass a single bill in 22+ years?
Unless you want him to become a king, or dictator, he’s going to have to work within the system – and it’s beyond obvious he has neither the knowledge nor the talent to do so.
Rebar on April 25, 2011 at 11:47 PM
That means nothing. Any hateful person can support anyone they want. RP has disavowed these endorsements just like McCain did.
nazo311 on April 25, 2011 at 11:40 PM
Try. Again.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 25, 2011 at 11:48 PM
Aw…shit. The GOP primary is officially headed into the sewer, led by the worst nitwits in American politics, the RonPaulians.
Jaibones on April 25, 2011 at 11:52 PM
Sorry, I would rather not have my choice in 2012 be Obama or the guy who sat at the end of the bar for thirty years running his mouth.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 25, 2011 at 11:53 PM
So me must endure another two years (if he announces) of RP and all the associated baggage, go through drudging up all the stuff which sank him four years ago – all for his ‘message’ he can get out there – which he already does as I pointed out in an earlier comment?
He appeals to young voters. Sounds like the same stuff I heard four years ago. Not to open up another wound but this is simply because of his stance on drug legalization. And the young didn’t flock to support him. Nationally, they went for Obama.
As I also stated, I think we’ve had enough of any type of egomaniac in dealing with the huge one we have occupying the WH already. I can understand your support for the guy but supporting another Presidential run is just ridiculous on its face for one simple fact –
He cannot win.
catmman on April 25, 2011 at 11:59 PM
And g’night, FireFly.
catmman on April 26, 2011 at 12:00 AM
Come on man, he can win, with just one more money bomb!
Rebar on April 26, 2011 at 12:01 AM
Ron Paul Reagan and Goldwater Platform Video
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:07 AM
Ron Paul Reagan and Goldwater Platform Video
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:07 AM
MADCON!
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Another 5% revolution? I don’t know, the way things are going I guess I feel more likely to support Paul than I did last time.
Dollayo on April 26, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Winning isn’t everything, didn’t you learn that in kindergarten? Good night to you too; I promise I won’t be a spammer in 2012. ;-)
Firefly_76 on April 26, 2011 at 12:10 AM
I like a lot of what Ron Paul stands for but at the end of the day he is a kooky old man (I await your insults Ron Paulians). I like Gary Johnson. AP are you writing him off already?
As far as everyone saying GJ is pro-abortion, here is his position from Our America Initiative
How can Republicans disagree with this position? Until Roe v. Wade is overturned, it doesn’t matter how badly any president wants to ban early stage abortion.
bigbeas on April 26, 2011 at 12:22 AM
The young and stupid voted for O’Bozo. The young and insane voted for Paul, 23 times each online, and then sat out the general election, drunk and sullen.
Not trying to open any old wounds, either, but I still remember the videos of these drunken, aggressive nitwits, chasing Fox News commentators around in the parking lot where some event we being held and screaming at them.
Couldn’t tell them apart from Wisconsin Dem-communist-union members.
Jaibones on April 26, 2011 at 12:27 AM
Reagan vastly expanded the federal government as has every single U.S. president.
Why should conservatives keep voting for the same con artists?
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:28 AM
It has been going in that direction for a long, long time. Look at the leaders we voted in, in November, look at our Speaker. We have nothing, we are like crap in the yard, nothing. Nobody will speak out on the corruption, and if they do, they are smeared all over the place, and for some reason this seems to bother them more then our Country heading into the toilet. The news is propaganda and it is circled over and over in between dancing with the stars and American Idol for the idiot parade. It’s freaking over.
nwpammy on April 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM
The Reagan scam by Murray N. Rothbard”
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:29 AM
I’ve thought about it for about an hour and, no, I don’t think I’m kidding. Compared to Romney or Huckabee, nanny-stater extraordinaires both, I think I would rather give somebody like Ron Paul a try. The progressives are the problem, not the solution. At least Ron Paul isn’t one of them, and he seems to support freedom and liberty and capitalism with less cronyism, etc. Name me one progressive that believes in any of that?
Is there any evidence that Ron Paul is really a Truther, or does he just leave the door open from an open minded, government transparency point of view.
FloatingRock on April 26, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Um, Reagan had this this thing called a Democrat majority in the House and (for much of his tenure) the Senate.
I think we could maybe spread a little bit of the credit for government expansion around-at least in his case.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 12:32 AM
btw this is the problem with Roe v. Wade. Abortion was declared a “Constitutional right” by seven lawyers in Washington, D.C. without any legal or Constitutional basis for doing so. They inserted their political will into a political issue and took it away from us at the ballot box. Mark Levin discusses this at length in his book, “Men In Black.”
bigbeas on April 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM
I hope you are alone with this line of thinking!..:)
Dire Straits on April 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM
If it’s Roe vs. Wade you’re worried about, then you should support her candidate for president.
Jane Roe endorses Ron Paul
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM
You prefer a big government, nanny-stater progressive over a small government conservative who has some nutty followers?
FloatingRock on April 26, 2011 at 12:35 AM
He still thinks we’re partly responsible for 9/11. I can’t go along with that, even though I like what he says on the budget.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/ron-paul-to-announce-exploratory-committee-for-third-presidential-run
jdawg on April 26, 2011 at 12:35 AM
bigbeas on April 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM
You are absolutely correct, but they did a lot more than that.
jdawg on April 26, 2011 at 12:36 AM
Is there any evidence that Ron Paul is really a Truther, or does he just leave the door open from an open minded, government transparency point of view.
Leave what door open, that a conspiracy with a cast of thousands pulled off a faux terrorist attack on the United States and killed 3,000 people in the service of some plot to build a natural gas line across Afghanistan? There is nothing open minded or transparent about that except that one is openly and transparently enabling a lunatic conspiracy theory.
Sorry. No sale.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 12:36 AM
Is there any evidence that Ron Paul is really a Truther, or does he just leave the door open from an open minded, government transparency point of view.
FloatingRock on April 26, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Sorry-but believing that the Government(or Zionists or anyone but 19 Islamo-terrorists) were responsible for the worst Terrorist attack in this Nation’s history isn’t ‘open-minded’…it’s pure evil.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 12:37 AM
If it’s Roe vs. Wade you’re worried about, then you should support her candidate for president.
Jane Roe endorses Ron Paul
Spathi
Or I could support one of the legion of Pro-life GOP candidates who actually have a shot at pulling more than 2% of the vote once we get past the “internet polls what can be spammed” phase of the campaign.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 12:38 AM
You prefer a big government, nanny-stater progressive over a small government conservative who has some nutty followers?
FloatingRock on April 26, 2011 at 12:35 AM
Few NOTHING-it’s the majority in the Ronulan’s case.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 12:38 AM
Jane Roe endorses Ron Paul
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:34 AM
I was FB friends with her at one time.
She’s a nice person who-to judge by what she was posting-is functionally illiterate. Reading her posts was reading the well-meaning ramblings of a grade-schooler.
Btw: She defriended me. I wasn’t sad to see it happen.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 12:45 AM
Ron Paul needs to get lost. He cant win (thank God) and we really need the 5 percent to go elsewhere.
Are we going to have to go over again how Paul wants to cut aid to Israel and all the racist crap from his past and his 911 truth brigade?
No Ron Paul, no way.
NickTx on April 26, 2011 at 12:46 AM
Finally the real conservative shows up. I’m sick and tired of these Republican progressives like Romney, Gingrich, Pawlenty, and Huckster.
Ron Paul is one of the few conservatives left and there’s no way I’m voting for anyone to the left of him.
He’s the future of the GOP.
Nelsen on April 26, 2011 at 12:48 AM
I find Bush lying the country into Iraq to be more offensive than any transparency issue.
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM
He’s the future of the GOP.
Nelsen on April 26, 2011 at 12:48 AM
Only in your alternate reality.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 12:52 AM
We’re sick and tired of having to suck it up support some big government “conservative Republican.
He may have only got 5% of the vote in 2008 but the country hadn’t been through an Obama term in 2008. The collapse Paul had predicted for ten+ years hadn’t happened till after the 08 primaries. Liberals hadn’t gotten us stuck in a 3rd Arab guagmire in 08. The dollar wasn’t experiencing massive inflation in 08.
It’s libertarian’s time.
Nelsen on April 26, 2011 at 12:54 AM
Spathi, I like you. You’re tenacious. But insulting every other candidate and former president doesn’t make Ron Paul any more appealing. It just makes the Ron Paul supporters seem even more irrational.
I could only vote for Paul, Ron, one each, if drinking and being intoxicated were allowed in polling places. I would need one of his supporters to then hold a gun to my intoxicated head and then point to his name on the ballot for me.
Otherwise, I’m not voting for the top of the ticket if he’s the guy. I’m just glad that he has zero chance of winning a primary.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM
It’s libertarian’s time.
Nelsen on April 26, 2011 at 12:54 AM
Herr Ronulan’s not a libertarian-he’s paleo-con.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM
Nonsense, Annoyinglittletwerp (for the record, I know that’s your screen name, but it feels like I’m insulting you addressing you. I’m not, I assure you.)
I’ve met plenty of supporters of all candidates, including my prefered one, Rep. Ron Paul. I have YET to meet one birther, truther, anti-semite, open racist, or any other fringe donk that there is. And you ain’t met them either.
Are they annoying? Yeah. Are their annoying people like these jokers who support Paul? Sure. But, there’s the same thing for each and every single candidate you would vote for, also.
Paul, right now, is THE ONLY one who is addressing the majority of the real important issues, and doing so in a way that’s different from the so-called “mainstream” or “real” conservatives.
Fact is, we are BROKE! We CAN’T afford foreign aid to ANYONE anymore, including Israel. Paul not only wants to end it with Israel, he also wants to end it with the rest of the world, and that includes the rest of the Middle East. A first-world nation with an elite military, an extremely elite intelligence agency, and nuclear weaponry should be able to stand on it’s own. That’s not being a Jew-hater; it’s acknowledging reality.
Again, we’re broke. We cannot sustain a military presence in well over 100 nations, many of whom don’t like us anyways. It may not be a traditional definition of empire-building, but it sure looks like it to a lot of people, especially when the bill comes due. Making reasonable, and necessary cuts to our defense budget is NOT a sign of hating the military. It’s accepting reality.
Reminding people that our presence in certain locations (which is part of a foreign policy) causes animosity is NOT treason. It’s common sense. We would scream loudly and often if Iran or some damn place that hates us was getting too friendly in Mexico, or the Caribbean, or even Canada. You would look at that as an act of aggression, even if they said their intentions were good. We’d be right to be concerned about such a scenario. So, it’s not a stretch to think that those people over on that side of the world have concerns, too.
Again, get hung up on third-rate, minor crap (like earmarks, and endorsements if you want. It’s certainly your right. But there are MUCH, MUCH more important issues that actually matter right now. There’s over 14 trillion reasons (dollars) why.
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM
Otherwise, I’m not voting for the top of the ticket if he’s the guy. I’m just glad that he has zero chance of winning a primary.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Ditto. Same goes for Huck.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM
I find Bush lying the country into Iraq to be more offensive than any transparency issue.
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM
Oh, so you are one of those tools. Got it. Thanks for clearing it up.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 1:02 AM
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM
You’re a straight-up guy, but my beloved Cubbies will win the WS before I vote for an Israel-hater.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 1:04 AM
“Bush lying the country into Iraq…”
And that right there is exhibit A in the case against the Ron Paul campaign for the Republican nomination. It insists upon itself.
Even if Ron Paul does not believe this, or at least has not openly stated it, here we have a typical Ron Paul supporter right out the gate going the “Bush lied, people died” route.
Yes, Republican primary voters will flock to a candidate whose outspoken supporters on Conservative websites cheerfully kick the ball into their own goal while reciting the tired lies of International A.N.S.W.E.R. and Code Pink.
Take a bow, Spathi. You might as well be pounding the nails into your messiah’s cross yourself for all the good that sort of advocacy will do him.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 1:09 AM
No standing army for the president = no troops to invade Iraq.
Simple problems call for simple solutions.
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 1:21 AM
Annoyinglittletwerp – You’re a Vubs fan? :o NOOOOOO! Lmao
Go Brewers!
Back to topic…
Paul isn’t an “Israel Hater.” Opposing foreign aid to somebody doesn’t mean he “hates” them.
When I get home, and get on my computer, I’ll post examples of my point that he doesn’t “hate Israel.”. I’m mobile, and linking stuff up on a phone is a pain in the ass, point blank.
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:23 AM
No standing army for the president = no troops to invade Iraq.
Simple problems call for simple solutions.
Spathi on April 26, 2011 at 1:21 AM
Make sure you include that as a postscript on your postings on every conservative site you visit. They will be lining up to vote for your guy.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 1:27 AM
And don’t forget the “Bush lied us into Iraq” thing. That one is clutch.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 1:28 AM
OK, you guys have convinced me and I am officially announcing right now, live, on HotAir, that I, Badmojo, will be running for President in 2012. I guarantee that I will only be a one termer(probably a lot less with my health lol) but I also guarantee that within one month of taking office I will have resolved the economic problems in this great nation, I will have brought about permanent national security to our land, and will have done away with the IRS! (Or the entire planet will be a nuclear wasteland…but hey, you guys should give me a shot at least!)
BadMojo on April 26, 2011 at 1:33 AM
Annoyinglittletwerp – You’re a Vubs fan? :o NOOOOOO! Lmao
Go Brewers!
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:23 AM
I can’t wait for the next time my team visits Wrigley North-I mean Miller Park.
LoL
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 1:34 AM
Oh, I just got the word. This is no big deal. I understand he’s just calling a presser to say that he isn’t mad at Sacha Cohen anymore.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 1:36 AM
I can’t either. We’ll take two of three from ya again. ;) lol
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:36 AM
Now thats friggen funny!
BadMojo on April 26, 2011 at 1:38 AM
I lost the comment before that one that said I’d vote for you before Paul. Where do you stand on encasing the entire country in a 40 foot high cinder block wall and pretending the rest of the world doesn’t exist?
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 1:43 AM
The cinder block wall falls under my national security plan.
BadMojo on April 26, 2011 at 1:45 AM
Hawkdriver – I don’t support that (although it may be a solution for illegal immigration. I reserve the right to change my mind lol).
Now, where does dialing back our unsustainable military adventurism in places we have no business mean we’re supporting such a far-fetched idea as you imply?
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 1:50 AM
I’m the wrong guy to be asking that. You’re as much as saying I’m an idiot and have wasted my life.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 2:02 AM
Great. Now we have to listen to the Paulbots again.
Adjoran on April 26, 2011 at 2:06 AM
*stomps off
If I wanted to vote for a candidate that wouldn’t win, I’d vote for Rand!
MeatHeadinCA on April 26, 2011 at 2:07 AM
Hawk, we’ve spoken before, but I really don’t know you.
I do know this. If I felt you were an idiot and a waste of life, I’d have no problem whatsoever in telling you so.
The few times we have spoken, you seemed like an alright, and respectable guy, despite our difference of opinion over Paul. I’ll continue to hold that belief unless or until you give me a reason to no longer do so.
Fair enough?
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 2:16 AM
What is he going to announce . . . that they have finally certified him a loon? That isn’t anything new.
Voter from WA State on April 26, 2011 at 2:16 AM
While I disagree with Paul on a few things (9/11 trutherism), I think he’s the best candidate for the GOP. He’s for sound money, free markets, a humble foreign policy (i.e. non-interventionism – much different than isolationism), and liberty. All of the other candidates in the GOP represent more of the same.
One thing I’ll never be able to get over regarding many of the GOP in congress is passing massive budgets, which added to the debt. Here’s the kicker, though: once the libs take control of the executive and legislative branches, the GOP is suddenly concerned about debt and spending. Give me a break.
Conservatives and Republicans really need to ask themselves a question: Would you rather have more RINOs in office or a kooky candidate who actually sticks to his conservative principles?
Sleeper on April 26, 2011 at 2:17 AM
Sleeper – of course it’ll be “more of the same” lol
Then, in 2016, or 2020, when their so-called “conservative” people in Washington do what the Republican Party has been doing seemingly my entire lifetime, they’ll break out the excuses of “President X wasn’t that conservative” or “Democrats and squish-RINO moderates and libs controlled congress.”
Lol.
Badger State Dave on April 26, 2011 at 2:31 AM
While I disagree with Paul on a few things (9/11 trutherism), but… several paragraphs of rationalization and wishcasting.
Sleeper on April 26, 2011 at 2:17 AM
See, that’s your problem right there, the 9/11 trutherism. There’s no “but” that can justify it.
Pray tell, what conservative principle is one adhering to when one gets in bed with conspiracy theorists?
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 2:44 AM
Ron means Paul is out…No Haley probably means Mitch is in…Talk of ’16 is rolling over and playing dead…
Gohawgs on April 26, 2011 at 2:48 AM
“Democrats and squish-RINO moderates and libs controlled congress.”
Well, since we are being all constitutional and stuff, does the ideology of those who control one branch of government not limit the scope of action of the other branches? Unless one is advocating for a President who rules by diktat, which is decidedly unconstitutional.
Odd, this ready accusation of excuse making in response to a comment making excuses for Ron’s adoring legions of 9/11 truthers.
A Balrog of Morgoth on April 26, 2011 at 2:48 AM
Sleeper . . . Paul doesn’t have a chance. All they need to do is play the tape of him saying that Cheney and Pres. Bush should be tried for crimes. Only loons say those kinds of things.
Voter from WA State on April 26, 2011 at 2:50 AM
Then only Manchurian candidate who not only has never been to Manchuria but never been a candidate. I wonder who stuffs his ATM card for his services to derail America?
Limerick on April 26, 2011 at 3:02 AM
And no……I don’t, won’t and never will take him seriously as either a candidate, an American, or a Texan.
Limerick on April 26, 2011 at 3:04 AM
Morris was on Hannity tonite. He did his estimation of the Republican hopefuls. He thinks the field is too crowded for Palin to run with all of her media smeared baggage and twerp, he completely dismissed Pawlenty as even getting out of the gate. I forgot what he said about Ron Paul. Morris is starting to jump on the Trump wagon.
Dayum, is Morris now drinking the ruling elite koolaid?
karenhasfreedom on April 26, 2011 at 3:04 AM
karenhasfreedom on April 26, 2011 at 3:04 AM
You didn’t hear the news.
I’m starting to move into the Palin camp.
I will never be a Palinista because celebrity worship ain’t my thing-but I do believe that the Gentlewoman from AK is a strong conservative who’s shown a lot of Chutzpah as of late.
Sometimes Chutzpah is enough to get you across the finish line.
annoyinglittletwerp on April 26, 2011 at 3:29 AM
Great…now we get to have America spit on by the Noam Chomsky of the Uber-Right.
He’s a dangerous nutjob. If it were between he and Obama, I would just go set in my basement (freshly made into a shelter) until the end.
TiminPhx on April 26, 2011 at 4:17 AM
/thunk
that was me passing out with surprise.
I read that hateful article on politico that Rush talked about today. It made me so mad. Then right after that, I heard Romney on Greta. (Guess he crawled out from under his desk). That made me mad, too, because he is saying all of the things Sarah has been saying for 2 years, yet Sarah is the one that the media and ruling elite are trying to destroy on Mitt’s behalf.
Sigh.
karenhasfreedom on April 26, 2011 at 5:00 AM
Wow, Pawlenty is now on Greta. She really stacked up the guests tonite on her show. Pawlenty is parroting Mitt, drill here, drill now, all of the above, etc. Saying that Obama has made the economy exponentially worse because he is turning the economy into government centric (or something like that). Too bad the idiots who vote for Obama will never understand this concept.
karenhasfreedom on April 26, 2011 at 5:04 AM
obama voters will never understand *any* concept.
OmahaConservative on April 26, 2011 at 5:27 AM
We all ought to be raising surrender flags.
Just read where Boehner announced he trusted Obama. That’s the stupid GOP’s form of a waiver.
Tell me again, how and why the nation should not eagerly vote for a man who is trusted by his enemy and offers them free everything including absolution from racial and environmental guilt?
Don L on April 26, 2011 at 7:20 AM
The only thing I care about from Ron Paul is that he put into action what he has been going on about for years: Audit the Federal Reserve.
Find out who runs the thing.
Find out who has profited from the manipulation of US currency over the decades.
And then get it all out in live hearings with the actors and their connections named.
He can do, or he can do not.
If he cares more about being President than uncovering the most corrupting and impenetrable part of the US system since Woodrow Wilson put it in place, then that tells me he is unwilling to use the power the public has granted him via his elections. Enough of the soap box: it is time to step down and start using the scrub brushes and not pontificating about what *should* be done and start *doing* it. Otherwise he is playing his followers for useful tools and that doesn’t speak well about him at all.
Results matter, Rep. Paul.
Got any yet?
ajacksonian on April 26, 2011 at 7:23 AM
My take.
kingsjester on April 26, 2011 at 7:35 AM
I’m sure the Obama campaign thanks you for your support.
JohnGalt23 on April 26, 2011 at 7:55 AM
Welcome to the ‘dark side’!
fossten on April 26, 2011 at 7:57 AM
Perhaps you could provide a link for us, so we could judge it ourselves?
JohnGalt23 on April 26, 2011 at 7:58 AM
I’m sure the Obama campaign thanks you for your support.
JohnGalt23 on April 26, 2011 at 7:55 AM
If you had paid attention to hawkdriver’s postings on HA over the years, you would know just how far off that statement is.
kingsjester on April 26, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Let Paul run…..putting him on stage makes all the major candidates look like Moderates. If Trump runs I’d love to see him standing next to RP in a debate.
Let the best CONSERVATIVE win!!
PappyD61 on April 26, 2011 at 8:20 AM
I’m curious how many Ron Paul supporters will openly admit to believing that “the banks and the money supply are, in the end, controlled by an elite few”.
MadisonConservative on April 26, 2011 at 8:45 AM
And yours for pushing Paul.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Paul’s the kind of guy who gets your ear initially with some common sense, straight talk…but then he keeps talking and talking and after a while you start looking for the nearest exit in desperation to flee. I give him credit for his independent thinking (a rarity in politics that gets some labeled as radical) and grandfatherly charisma, but his lack of understanding on Muslim extremism is troubling and his poo pooing of these serious questions from Hannity is frightening. The USA is hardly a ruddy- cheeked cherub of innocence in our past, but to casually lay blame on our feet with no thorough comprehension of the extreme true nature of Islamists is two big thumbs down.
RepubChica on April 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM
Sure it’s fair. The point is though that every time Spathi or some other Ron Paul supporter makes their very simplistic arguments about just staying home, they ignore much of what the US Military has been involved with over the years.
1. To believe Spathi’s POV, you’d have to admit your military was commiting atrocities overseas.
2. That George Bush was the least honorable president of all time.
3. That 9-11 was either our fault or directly planned by someone in our government.
4. That if we just quit “interferring” overseas that all of the Islamic terrorists would just stop trying to spread Sharia Law over the world.
No one can convince me that Ron Paul’s “What If” radio address was anything less than a thinly veiled accusation of his own military. That we were responsible for the insurrection in Iraq after the major fighting was about over. It lent sympathy to the terrorist sniping and blowing his own young warriors off of the Iraqi road with IEDs. To believe his analogy, you’d have to believe the absolute worst about your own young men and women who have gone to fight for this country. But of course, this is where we lose the typical Ron Paul supporter, again, because of the simplistic idea that we are never actually fighting for our country but that we are engaged in some “overseas folly”.
I can never support Paul.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM
You said it better.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 9:05 AM
RepubChica on April 26, 2011 at 9:01 AM
Excellently said, mi amiga.
kingsjester on April 26, 2011 at 9:08 AM
Annnnnnnnnd here we go again!
It’s tough when my favorite website and my favorite politician keep coming to odds. The years since the election have offered a little respite… but you always come back to trying to get digs at Dr. Paul.
Look, anyone bashing him obviously does not currently read or listen to the man. Yes, he is not a neocon and yes, he is against most military intervention… but that is not a new or weird position for a conservative to take.
He is pro-life, anti-government, for lower taxes, for less gov’t intervention in every facet of life, etc. There is so much that Dr. Paul and HotAir agree on, it would be nice if we could see him praised here every once in a while.
He is the most principled politician in Washington.
therambler on April 26, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Hardly. But I’ll tell you what, get his to recant the “What If” radio address and it would go a long way to having me give him a second look. Or, you and guys like Spathi can just go on arguing that it wasn’t intended to “actually” accuse the military or Bush Administration of atrocities in Iraq.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 9:22 AM
get “him” to recant …
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM
therambler on April 26, 2011 at 9:17 AM
Like it or not, HotAir is a neoconservative blog.
maverick muse on April 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM
Wrong.
Which likes us some Allen West, among others that the paleocons claim are “one of theirs”.
MadisonConservative on April 26, 2011 at 9:30 AM
Yup, but I love being someones most convenient definition. But you have to admire the premise. Their debate is practically foolproof when you consider that they simply blame every woe on foriegn intervention.
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 9:38 AM
He is a Truther and isolationist. Other than that, I do like his libertarian views.
jeffn21 on April 26, 2011 at 9:42 AM
Pffffft !!!
This will probably send tingles up Chrissy Matthews’ legs for the first time since 2008, as he parades Ron Paul around and blathers on for 18 months about the wacky, kooky Republicans.
Viva la fiesta–here’s the pinata.
Steve Z on April 26, 2011 at 9:50 AM
For years we’ve heard nothing but “neocon neocon neocon” when most of them couldn’t even define it. Now I’ve decided to turn the tables and label the paleocon isolationist truther anti-Israel zombies as they see fit to label us.
MadisonConservative on April 26, 2011 at 9:55 AM
He’s not a truther. Going on Alex Jones’ show doesn’t make someone a truther any more than going on MSNBC makes someone a liberal.
fossten on April 26, 2011 at 9:56 AM
Wait wait wait…first he compares Ron Paul to Reagan…
Then he bashes Reagan…
And what did I say earlier?
Thanks for the proof, Spathi!
MadisonConservative on April 26, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Agreed.
fossten on April 26, 2011 at 9:58 AM
Second look at “Plants VS Zombies”?
hawkdriver on April 26, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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