Gallup shows Trump tied with Huckabee among GOP primary voters

posted at 10:55 am on April 22, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Keep one thing in mind when looking at the data from Gallup’s latest poll of the Republican field.  Their sample includes “Republican-leaning independents” as well as registered Republicans.  That’s important, because it helps explain Donald Trump’s sudden resonance in the field:

Donald Trump debuts in a first-place tie in Gallup’s latest update of Republicans’ preferences for the party’s 2012 presidential nomination among potential contenders. Trump ties Mike Huckabee at 16%, with Mitt Romney close behind at 13%. Sarah Palin is the only other potential Republican candidate to earn double-digit support.

The April 15-20 Gallup poll finds Trump leading the field among moderate and liberal Republicans, with 21% supporting him. Huckabee is the leader among conservative Republicans. Huckabee’s support and Trump’s support differ between ideological groups, while Romney and Palin get similar support from both ideological wings of the party.

Among the lower-ranked candidates, Newt Gingrich’s support and Michele Bachmann’s support tilt decidedly conservative. Trump is the only potential candidate who shows notably stronger appeal to liberals and moderates than to conservatives within the GOP.

Let’s point out, though, that even where differences exist, they’re rather small — the consequence of a large field with no one frontrunner at this stage.  Huckabee’s support split is 13/18 in moderate-to-liberal/conservative voters; Trump’s is 21/13, Romney 14/13.  Between the three of them, that accounts for 48% of the moderate-liberal voters and 44% of the conservatives, leaving plenty of room for another candidate to grab the brass ring when the race gets serious.  Interestingly, Palin in fourth place splits almost evenly between the two, 11/10.

The Boss Emeritus did some digging on Trump and comes up with what should be a kayo on Kelo:

Too many mega-developers like Trump have achieved success by using and abusing the government’s ability to commandeer private property for purported “public use.” Invoking the Fifth Amendment takings clausereal estate moguls, parking garage buildersmall developers and sports palace architects have colluded with elected officials to pull off legalized theft in the name of reducing “blight.” Under eminent domain, the definition of “public purpose” has been stretched like Silly Putty to cover everything from roads and bridges to high-end retail stores, baseball stadiums and casinos.

While casting himself as America’s new constitutional savior, Trump has shown reckless disregard for fundamental private property rights. In the 1990s, he waged a notorious war on elderly homeowner Vera Coking, who owned a little home in Atlantic City that stood in the way of Trump’s manifest land development. The real estate mogul was determined to expand his Trump Plaza and build a limo parking lot — Coking’s private property be damned. The nonprofit Institute for Justice, which successfully saved Coking’s home, explained the confiscatory scheme …

Trump has attempted to use the same tactics in Connecticut and has championed the reviled Kelo vs. City of New London Supreme Court ruling upholding expansive use of eminent domain. He told Fox News anchor Neil Cavuto that he agreed with the ruling “100 percent” and defended the chilling power of government to kick people out of their homes and businesses based on arbitrary determinations:

“The fact is, if you have a person living in an area that’s not even necessarily a good area, and government, whether it’s local or whatever, government wants to build a tremendous economic development, where a lot of people are going to be put to work and make (an) area that’s not good into a good area, and move the person that’s living there into a better place — now, I know it might not be their choice — but move the person to a better place and yet create thousands upon thousands of jobs and beautification and lots of other things, I think it happens to be good.”

Silly conservatives still believe that the person who owns the property should decide what kind of private-sector use should be made of it, not the government, and not wealthy developers who play footsie with politicians to take what doesn’t belong to them.  Property rights are the core of freedom; in fact, they are the first rights mentioned in the Constitution for that reason.  Long before one gets to the First Amendment, Article I Section 8 grants the responsibility to Congress to “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries[.]“   And in the Fifth Amendment, we find that the Constitution mandates “nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.”

Here’s my question regarding the Trump boomlet.  If Republicans want to rally behind a pro-choice (before campaigning), pro-single-payer health care (before campaigning), pro-Kelo mercantilist, what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani?  His positions were far to the right of Trump’s on these issues before Trump decided to show up at CPAC, plus Giuliani has had a track record of success in executive office that didn’t involve strongarming people out of their property.  Or for that matter, what exactly is wrong with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, or the rest of the candidates whose conservative credentials activists question, in light of Trump’s sudden Republican advent?

Update: CNN demonstrates that Trump will be a pretty easy target if he wins the nomination:

I’d guess that Eliot Spitzer might have some personal animus he’s working out here, but that’s the point, isn’t it? Why offer the easy target?


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I doubt that it will come to that, but my inclination would be to stay home.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 12:47 PM

I might consider that option too, if the alternative were any past president in my lifetime, except Øbama. I doubt this country, as we know it, can survive a second term with him.

petefrt on April 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Organize4Palin Confirms: WSJ “Mystery Palin Actvist”, Peter Singleton, is O4P Iowa state coordinator

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2708896/posts

unseen on April 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM

I won’t vote for Huckabee or Trump. I can hold my nose and vote for Romney. I would rather be voting for someone like West, though.

crosspatch on April 22, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Hey karenhasfreedom, the birther book comes out May 17, so Trump is going to have some air in his sails in May and into June from that. I’m calling July 6th for Palin to jump in.

bigmike on April 22, 2011 at 1:17 PM

If we’re going to jones for the black vote, we’d better take a lesson from Branch Rickey and find a candidate of the highest ability and moral character first.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 12:42 PM

..point missed; even with those two outstanding people, we’d only peel 5-7% off the Pantload’s sycophantic followers.

The War Planner on April 22, 2011 at 1:28 PM

..so that we can get 5-7% of the black vote back?

The War Planner on April 22, 2011 at 12:37 PM

That will happen and more if a Conservative is the nominee, not because of the candidate’s skin color.

conservative pilgrim on April 22, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Zero credibility. Shouldn’t expect any from a pest though.

nickj116 on April 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM

I said my inclination would be to stay home, not that I absolutely definitely would. The odds of the voters letting something like that happen are pretty slim, in my estimation.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 1:46 PM

nickj116 on April 22, 2011 at 12:52 PM

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I should probably ask, does calling me a pest count as “dialogue?”

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 1:47 PM

I might consider that option too, if the alternative were any past president in my lifetime, except Øbama. I doubt this country, as we know it, can survive a second term with him.

petefrt on April 22, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Morons like nickj deserve another four years of Obama. If I didn’t have so much personally at stake this cycle, I wouldn’t care.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM

I will not vote for Trump. Not in the primary and not in the general. Period.

He will be little if any better than Obama and the stench of further failure is better suited to a (D) and a newly elected (R).

deepdiver on April 22, 2011 at 2:03 PM

Top GOP candidate…

On onetime presidential candidate Pat Buchanan:

“He’s a Hitler lover. I guess he’s an anti-Semite. He doesn’t like the blacks, he doesn’t like the gays. It’s just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy. And maybe he’ll get 4 or 5 percent of the vote and it’ll be a really staunch right wacko vote.”

On former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice:

“Condoleezza Rice, who’s a lovely woman but she never makes a deal. She doesn’t make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator, 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. She gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens.”

Pure comedy gold….gold..

NextGen on April 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM

If a candidate ran against McCain in 2008, they need not apply for 2012. If they couldn’t beat McCain, most of us have no interest in seeing them on our ballot again.

What is with this pushing Romney who thought his boys serving in a Mormon mission was equal to serving in the military or Huckabee who on a lot of instances governed in AR to the left of Clinton who is trying to rewrite history?

Why do we as Republicans want to give the nomination to someone who feels entitled because they ran before and has the complete support of Bush 41, his cronies, and Karl Rove (don’t be fooled because Rove wouldn’t be after Trump so hard if he wasn’t going to sign on to Romney). Rove will do whatever Bush 41 wants him to do as that is who gave him his start. Maybe Romney should ask Kay Bailey what having the complete support of Bush 41 and his cronies will do for your primary chances.

This Republican activist won’t support Romney or Huckabee in the primary. Huckabee only won one district in Oklahoma the last time which speaks volumes. We are next door to AR and know the truth.

Want someone new and exciting who can beat Obama — Romney and Huckabee will not get the Indys we need or the conservative Dems to win. They are both blah in my book along with most of the field who cannot win anyways.

I am tired of the inside the beltway people thinking they know what is best and who should get the nomination. Those of us in flyover country probably have a better grasp of the situation and what it takes to win elections.

PhiKapMom on April 22, 2011 at 2:15 PM

Pure comedy gold….gold..

NextGen on April 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM

Do we really want a president whose idea of success is cutting deals? You trumpschwanz yankers ought to ask yourself that.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 2:16 PM

If there were a Republican candidate that spoke plainly and stirred peoples’ interest, we wouldn’t even be talking about Trump. But mocking Trump sure takes the pressure off the bland also-rans, doesn’t it?

Django on April 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM

If there were a Republican candidate that spoke plainly and stirred peoples’ interest, we wouldn’t even be talking about Trump. But mocking Trump sure takes the pressure off the bland also-rans, doesn’t it?

Django on April 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM

There’s at least one candidate out there singing my song. Your mileage may vary.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM

Hater…that’s all you are is a hater.
Which is fine, just don’t confuse your hate with facts.

right2bright on April 22, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Project much?

ReneePA on April 22, 2011 at 2:45 PM

Please Fox News, renew Huckabee’s contract for even more money. You’ll be doing our country a big favor.

slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2011 at 2:57 PM

There’s at least one candidate out there singing my song. Your mileage may vary.

gryphon202 on April 22, 2011 at 2:28 PM

You missed the point. If your candidate were striking a chord with more people, we wouldn’t be hearing so much about Trump. The other candidates don’t have to compete on Trump’s reality show, carnival terms but they need to ask themselves why Trump has sparked so much interest and they haven’t. Trump’s not 100% wrong in his approach but the establishment pundits are claiming he is.

Django on April 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Trump’s not 100% wrong in his approach but the establishment pundits are claiming he is.

Django on April 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

So which part his he right on? The tribute demanded of Iraq and other lands we conquered?

Or the trade war with China?

Maybe he is right we need to work with the dems on a budget instead of passing a conservative budget?

Is he right that Ryan’s plan goes too far?

Which issue has Trump been right on so far?

unseen on April 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Django on April 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM

As far as why my caniddate is not drawing interest she hasn’t made her sprint yet.

unseen on April 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Anyone listening to Hannity’s radio show right now?

Sean is out for the day, and his fill in is shilling for Trump.

Levin just called in to take him on. Then they cut to a hard break. I wonder if they keep him over the top of the hour.

I want to hear this!

WABC New York

Saltysam on April 22, 2011 at 4:04 PM

Levin knows this guy is working directly for Trump.

So, Levin’s taking Trump head on.

Love that guy.

Saltysam on April 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Here’s my question regarding the Trump boomlet. If Republicans want to rally behind a pro-choice (before campaigning), pro-single-payer health care (before campaigning), pro-Kelo mercantilist, what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani? His positions were far to the right of Trump’s on these issues before Trump decided to show up at CPAC, plus Giuliani has had a track record of success in executive office that didn’t involve strongarming people out of their property. Or for that matter, what exactly is wrong with Huckabee, Romney, Pawlenty, or the rest of the candidates whose conservative credentials activists question, in light of Trump’s sudden Republican advent?

Good question.

Terrye on April 22, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Lord save us from all three of them!

I would sit the election out rather than vote for Huckchuck or Mr. Romneycare.

Trump is saying things plainly, which is good, but I don’t think he’s trustworthy or sufficiently substantial to be president.

CatoRenasci on April 22, 2011 at 8:27 PM

The Boss Emeritus did some digging on Trump and comes up with what should be a kayo on Kelo:

She wasted her time as most people care about what is vital, not what is incidental.

Heckle on April 22, 2011 at 8:50 PM

what exactly is wrong with Rudy Giuliani?

Mr. Sanctuary city himself. You must be kidding.

Heckle on April 22, 2011 at 8:51 PM

So, Levin’s taking Trump head on.

Love that guy.

Saltysam on April 22, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Levin hollers a lot but Trump has done more damage to Obama in just the last 2 weeks than Levin has ever done.

Heckle on April 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

So which part his he right on? The tribute demanded of Iraq and other lands we conquered?

Or the trade war with China?

Maybe he is right we need to work with the dems on a budget instead of passing a conservative budget?

Is he right that Ryan’s plan goes too far?

Which issue has Trump been right on so far?

unseen on April 22, 2011 at 3:47 PM

He’s right when he says we should place America’s interests first and not bow and scrape and apologize for it. He’s right about openly ripping things that others are too “prudent” to discuss, like China’s artificially low currency. He’s right about rejecting convention when it comes to the timidity and deference with which many people, and certainly the media, treat Obama. Every other politician gets the third degree and the harshest sort of proctology investigations, why didn’t Obama? That’s worth discussing. Bring him down off his pedestal.

Trump has made questionable statements but it annoys the hell out of me that Republicans are always shoving each other out of the way to boot stomp anyone on the right who might somehow embarrass them in front of “the cool kids.” Yes, Trump has to be held to account for what he’s said but save the outraged, foaming-at-the-mouth, hyperbolic venom FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

Django on April 22, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Trump has made questionable statements but it annoys the hell out of me that Republicans are always shoving each other out of the way to boot stomp anyone on the right who might somehow embarrass them in front of “the cool kids.” Yes, Trump has to be held to account for what he’s said but save the outraged, foaming-at-the-mouth, hyperbolic venom FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

Django on April 22, 2011 at 11:58 PM

I’ve said it before and it bears repeating:

Trump is a serial eminent domain abuser.

Trump is a graft artist. For those of you who may not realize what “graft” is, it’s trading non-monetary favors for unethical favorable treatment. It’s “bribery” when money changes hands.

The above two statements are not “Trump bashing” or “hyperbolic venom.” They are bona fide objective take-it-to-the-bank facts. My disdain for Trump and fear that he may be painted as some sort of figurehead of conservatism are my opinions on the man. He is a mercantilist who has bent government to his own ends, and to believe that he is all of a sudden conservative because he says so is a huge mistake.

gryphon202 on April 23, 2011 at 12:10 AM

I’m just trying to figure how Huckabee keeps ranking high in these polls. He has no chance in 2012. He had no chance in 2008.

zoyclem on April 23, 2011 at 8:51 AM

Levin hollers a lot but Trump has done more damage to Obama in just the last 2 weeks than Levin has ever done.

Heckle on April 22, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Google “Landmark Legal Foundation,” moron.

gryphon202 on April 23, 2011 at 10:34 AM

won’t vote for Huckabee or Trump. I can hold my nose and vote for Romney.

Hate to tell you this, genius, but lots of people held their nose and voted for Maverick Senator John. Need I say more?

Mr. Grump on April 23, 2011 at 11:56 AM

Hate to tell you this, genius, but lots of people held their nose and voted for Maverick Senator John. Need I say more?

Mr. Grump on April 23, 2011 at 11:56 AM

My biggest mistake in ’08 was not voting in the primaries at all. I won’t make that mistake again.

gryphon202 on April 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Alternate title: “Gallup wants GOP to get excited about two people who either won’t run or won’t win.”

MrX on April 23, 2011 at 2:16 PM

I’m beginning to wonder how much Obama has agreed to pay Trump.

flataffect on April 23, 2011 at 3:24 PM

My biggest mistake in ’08 was not voting in the primaries at all. I won’t make that mistake again.

gryphon202 on April 23, 2011 at 12:36 PM

Some of us live in states where we don’t vote until after the primary is decided.

fossten on April 23, 2011 at 7:25 PM

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