Detroit jury finds Terry Jones guilty of breach of peace for attempted protest outside Islamic center
posted at 8:25 pm on April 22, 2011 by Allahpundit
He wanted to protest outside the Islamic center in Dearborn but the city refused him a permit, fearful that some local Muslim might go nuts as a result. So they put him on trial, with the jury asked to determine what they thought his intent would be in holding the protest. If they thought his aim was peaceful, he’d be found not guilty; if they thought he meant to incite violence, then guilty as charged. Verdict: Guilty. Which means not only was this guy convicted of a speech crime he hadn’t yet committed (a.k.a. prior restraint), but it was only a crime in the first place because of the expected reaction from his opponents. In other words, it’s a de facto codification of the heckler’s veto.
The judge, likely recognizing the problems with the verdict, set Jones’s “peace bond” at all of $1. Jones refused to pay it on principle and was summarily carted off to jail. And now here we are:
The jury had been debating since 3:30 p.m .Thursday. The main issue of the trial was whether or not Jones’ main purpose was to say or do something that would incite violence. They came back with their verdict shortly after 6:30 p.m…
At the start of the trial, prosecutors presented their arguments before the jury. They argue that a protest outside the mosque in Dearborn would pose a significant safety issue. They argued that there is concern from authorities that someone may get hurt…
Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad also took the stand to testify in the case. Chief Haddad denied the permit request that would allow the protest to take place outside of the mosque. He testified that there were concerns over safety. Terry Jones also questioned Chief Haddad. He referred to a conversation he had with the Chief and asked him what his impression was after they had met. Chief Haddad responded that Jones was cordial and did not appear to be violent in nature.
In case you’re unclear on whom they expected violence from, a little clarity:
Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad testified today that there have been at least four serious threats made against Jones from metro Detroiters, arguing that his protest could lead to violence if allowed…
Speaking at a McDonald’s restaurant down the street from the courthouse, Jones — who’s defending himself — said he thought the proceedings are going well. And he said the government’s case was weak.
As he spoke, someone drove down Michigan Avenue yelling “Get out of Dearborn, you terrorist!”
I’m dying to hear constitutional lawyers weigh in on this, especially given the case’s superficial resemblance to the famous Skokie ruling. A state can criminalize speech that incites a riot, but those laws typically apply to incidents where a speaker is urging people on his own side to engage in violence. In order to convict him, you need to prove that he intended violence — which was what the Detroit jury looked at here — and also that violence, based on the circumstances, was imminent and likely. But even if you can prove both elements, prosecutors are typically limited to trying people after the protest has actually happened; finding a breach of the peace before the protest has occurred is a totally new one on me.
The other constitutional doctrine at play here, which I’ve written about before, is the “fighting words” exception to the First Amendment, which is an utter travesty and which has been used by the Supreme Court only sparingly over the years precisely because it’s so susceptible to abuse. The money quote from the famous Chaplinsky opinion:
There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or “fighting” words those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.
It’s the heckler’s veto, in other words. If you say something that’s so offensive to someone that, gosh darn it, they just can’t help but be violent in response, you can go to prison for it. Again, though: Typically you have to say something before you can be charged. Jones didn’t get a chance here, thanks to the state’s utter panic in shutting him down before one of the locals could run amok in outrage at whatever he had planned.
And so it came to be that this guy, a bona fide book-burner, is well on his way to free-speech martyrdom thanks to a state judicial system that’s (a) too stupid to realize that it’s brightening his spotlight by trying to silence him and (b) sufficiently concerned about Muslim violence itself that it ends up supporting part of his message. Wouldn’t surprise me if being sent to jail for trying to protest here was his goal all along.
Update: Semi-related: Remember the New Jersey transit worker whom Chris Christie fired for burning a Koran? He’s got his job back, along with $25,000 for his trouble. Quote: “This is the very essence of the First Amendment.”
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Fat or not, he’s still squish.
John the Libertarian on May 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Funny. I find it quite easy.
Stoic Patriot on May 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Madame de Pompadour loves him.
He kept her in unlimited free lobsters.
Schadenfreude on May 9, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Yeah, No on Christie…
E L Frederick (Sniper One) on May 9, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Can someone tell this Fat F*ck to shut the Blowhole.
ToddPA on May 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Ed, you are definitely in the minority.
Pork-Chop on May 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Hurricane Sandy destroyed a lot of things last year… including Christie’s chance at the presidency.
Ukiah on May 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
I am too. I’m really happy for him.
His political positions, not so much.
Paul-Cincy on May 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM
I have no problem. I immediately think of what a DB he is and, hence, immediate dislike.
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:08 PM
The only way I see Christie getting the nomination is if the votes are split and he weasels in. We are gonna have Rand, Rubio, maybe Cruz, Walker, Jindal, Perry (if he runs again), Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan…who else? It prob gonna be a huge field again. Heres to hoping a moderate doesnt get it!
Jack_Burton on May 9, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Not just no. Hell no.
DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Sorry but I loathe him. That gushing endorsement of the rat-eared coward on the eve of the election was the final straw and an act of disloyalty many on the right will not soon forget (certainly not by 2016). What does it say that Christie first called to congratulate the rat-eared coward on the night of the election but only got around to sending Mitt an e-mail sometime the next day?
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
So he will be contending as a Democrat, right ?
burrata on May 9, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Well, I’m glad to see more people jumping off the Christie bandwagon (I’m on record with not wanting to see him in national politics from back in early 2012). I think the vitriol directed at him is a little harsh and undeserved. Perhaps people are just angry at him because they thought he was more than he is, and now they feel betrayed. I don’t know.
He’s always been a bit of a social squish. If he wasn’t he couldn’t get elected governor in NJ. Even without his squishiness, I don’t think his brusqueness plays well in Peoria. They may like that in NJ, but not in flyover country.
Anyway, I won’t say that he’ll never get my vote. I’m getting rather good at holding my nose and pulling the lever. But he won’t be my first choice, or my second, or even my 15th.
Chris of Rights on May 9, 2013 at 2:15 PM
The thing is, Christie doesn’t even make an attempt to be anything but a fat social liberal with a few strange (for a liberal) ideas about fiscal responsibility. He’s Ron Paul without the isolationist kookiness.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Yeah, who doesn’t love a fat bully?
tetriskid on May 9, 2013 at 2:19 PM
I’m surprised at just how toned down the vitriol is. After all, this is the guy that has adopted the left’s positions when it comes to guns, gays, and illegals. He’s goes over with real conservatives about as well as serving veal at a PETA banquet.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM
I wouldn’t vote for Christi if he as skinny as twiggy! Can’t stand that man!
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letget on May 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Christie needs open primaries and the conservatives to split their vote. That’s how McCain and Romney won the nomination.
IMO this is a real possibility sadly.
I would love to see a primary debate between Christie/Cruz/Paul/Jindal/Walker/Ryan/Rubio. That’s an impressive group. Throw in Martinez for some token diversity (I like her but don’t know much about her).
commodore on May 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/michelle-obama-chris-christie-terrific-91060.html
Ed,
Sometimes your are right on and you are a hero on some issues(life) but ,man, you’ve got a blind spot.
Giuliani was dead last in the primaries(behind Ron Paul) after being the front runner for most of the year leading up to it and getting and spending more then anyone. AND Giuliani took on the dems and was A+ on 2 legs of the R stool.
There is NO PATH to the WH for NE Christie as an R. He KNOWS that. He’s fat not dumb.
Read/watch the above link. He is advertising his intentions. Do you really think all his pro Obama media wouldn’t be wall to wall if he ran as an R in the presidential primaries?
BoxHead1 on May 9, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Yeah he blew it. Obama would have been forced to give him whatever he needed regardless if he sucked up to him or not. But he way sucked up to him. I liked him pretty well before that.
flstc on May 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM
His position on gun control alone is enough for me to hit “delete” and will doom him anyway unless he runs as the democrat that he is.
TXUS on May 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Well, you don’t want to lose too much weight, especially to waltz. Or tango. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9b3ygBcK51qb7dheo1_500.jpg
Seth Halpern on May 9, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Trumka and Christie is there really that much of a difference?
meci on May 9, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Eeeesh. What did Ron Paul do to you??
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM
No, it’s really not.
Shump on May 9, 2013 at 2:25 PM
All these people that don’t like Christie, or claim he’s a RINO, can’t back their accusations with any legislation or anything else of substance.
Christie did a couple of photo Ops with the President so he could get funds for his state after a national disaster. He also called out Congressional Republicans for not releasing the necessary funds even though it was taking twice a long to provide relief as it took the Bush Republicans after Katrina. And for that, some idiot right wingers hate him for it.
Fact is that Christie has fought hard against the unions and got significant concessions in an overwhelming liberal legislature. He has not raised taxes one dime, even on millionaires, despite enormous pressure from the left, and he continues to oppose gay marriage. Yet idiot right wing extremists call him a RINO. Face it, Christie is by far the best chance we got in 2016. Time to get behind him.
cdw070 on May 9, 2013 at 2:26 PM
I wouldn’t that’s how we ended up with McCain and Romney. The GOP doesn’t need to pit 20 different people against each other in the primaries and put on debate after debate. That’s only helping Democrats. Some of the rat-eared coward’s best material came from Newt’s attack on Romney.
Of the Republicans you listed I can only really get behind Cruz with any enthusiasm. Rubio blew it when he decided that amnesty and lying about what that immigration bill says was a good tactic.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM
This man is dead to me. He and that socialist, Cuomo, from New York both look and sound like those actors from the Sopranos: Big Pussy and Pauly Wallnuts.
Both are comic relief.
kens on May 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM
One thing, he isn’t pro-gay. There was a fight in the legislature about gay marriage and he vetoed it and there wasn’t enough to override…it is going on the ballot in November and the people will decide, not the politicians. I’ll give him that much.
But here in Jersey, you can just bet they will vote for gay marriage and so VOILA!!! He is off the hook.
NJ Red on May 9, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Lap band surgery, eh? Wonder if that’s covered by ObamaCare?
Yeah, CC would have better luck as a democrat.
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:28 PM
Rubbish. He’s another Bush and I’m sure as president he’ll satisfy you with another war in the Middle East.
rickv404 on May 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM
He’s going to do AWESOME in the South and the Mid-West.
/sarc
2lbsTest on May 9, 2013 at 2:30 PM
OT: Someone just emailed me this tweet – thought some here might like it:
tweet linky
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Christie is anti-Second Amendment. How can you support somebody that doesn’t respect the Constitution?
And guaranteed the weight loss is going to make him like reformed smokers: A zealot against obesity to the point of getting in everybody’s face. It is only a matter of time that he finds common cause with Bloomberg.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Going Democrat in 2014…hoping for Democrat VP slot…
albill on May 9, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Christie recently singing that he agrees with with the very liberal Democrat Andrew Cuomo on 98% of the issues may put an end to things.
RJL on May 9, 2013 at 2:34 PM
If he runs as an R, he’ll be crushed by Rand or someone (anyone) else.
If he runs as a D, he’ll be crushed by the Hillary machine.
In any case, I don’t see him getting either party’s nomination in 2016.
UltimateBob on May 9, 2013 at 2:35 PM
1. Timing’s everything. No BJ’s just before an election, please.
2. Guns – linky one
3. Just in general – found this looking for what I was going to include on guns (something he said many years ago when initially running on guns). This lays out what a squish he is. Linky two
Sorry (not really), but he is a RINO.
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Heh. Good one.
It’s going viral on Facebook.
UltimateBob on May 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I stand corrected.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Excellent! Cruz is having way too much fun. ;)
kim roy on May 9, 2013 at 2:38 PM
* SHRUG * ….given the choice between him or clinton
Aggie95 on May 9, 2013 at 2:42 PM
Dems would have preferred Christi’s doctors place that lap band a bit lower. Because like him or not, the boy has grandes bolas! I will keep an open mind with hopes he doesn’t stray further off the reservation.
IKIDYOUNOT on May 9, 2013 at 2:45 PM
I can see him making an independent run. The blustering bully unafraid to yell at union leaders, cuddle with Democrat Presidents, and defy social conservatives.
Face it, Christie is the kind of “moderate” that would go over well with squishes from both parties. He’s raising a boatload of money. And cultivating that mavericky persona.
Happy Nomad on May 9, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Looking at the list mentioned by our host and commenters, there are only two that I would have a hard time supporting:
1. Christie: He won’t play at Peoria.
2. Rubio: His Gang of Eight escapades are a total non-starter.
Unfortunately, both Christie and Rubio will get the McCain treatment from the HDL (Hillary Defense League) MSM… loved up until the campaign.
either orr on May 9, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Pic of the Day: All Hat & No Cattle
Resist We Much on May 9, 2013 at 2:51 PM
I find him repulsive. He is sucking up to the Obama feed tray closer than a bed bug on night patrol. And he is performing tricks for them in return. No criticism allowed
He might try but it would be as a spoiler to split off swing voters. He would rather crush a conservative, than cut off the drip line. He is positioning himself for both parties
Christie has all the likability of the Walrus
The Walrus and The Carpenter
by Lewis Carroll, excerpted:
“O Oysters, come and walk with us!”
The Walrus did beseech.
“A pleasant walk, a pleasant talk,
Along the briny beach:
We cannot do with more than four,
To give a hand to each.”
The eldest Oyster looked at him,
But never a word he said:
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
And shook his heavy head–
Meaning to say he did not choose
To leave the oyster-bed.
But four young Oysters hurried up,
All eager for the treat:
Their coats were brushed, their faces washed,
Their shoes were clean and neat–
And this was odd, because, you know,
They hadn’t any feet.
…
“A loaf of bread,” the Walrus said,
“Is what we chiefly need:
Pepper and vinegar besides
Are very good indeed–
Now if you’re ready, Oysters dear,
We can begin to feed.”
“But not on us!” the Oysters cried,
Turning a little blue.
“After such kindness, that would be
A dismal thing to do!”
“The night is fine,” the Walrus said.
“Do you admire the view?
…
“It seems a shame,” the Walrus said,
“To play them such a trick,
After we’ve brought them out so far,
And made them trot so quick!”
The Carpenter said nothing but
“The butter’s spread too thick!”
…
“O Oysters,” said the Carpenter,
“You’ve had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?’
But answer came there none–
And this was scarcely odd, because
They’d eaten every one.
entagor on May 9, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Blustery, big, blowhard of a “butter up to Bama” bully if you get my alliteration.
This should make him the perfect choice of the elitist GOP.
Don L on May 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM
My thoughts exactly
cornbred on May 9, 2013 at 2:54 PM
Brokeback Mountain tryouts LOL
NJ Red on May 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM
He lied about this as recently as last week. Claimed he waited until AFTER the house parred down the pork to make his rant. Problem is he didn’t and got called on it. He’s a typical politician. We need a leader. Please keep him in Jersey where he can do the most good.
And quit with the Bush crap lightweight. If Bush can get credit for expediting funds then Obama deserves blame for delays.
DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 2:57 PM
The lapband isn’t going to grow conservatism in his spine.
Christie is all about Christie and paling around with his new BFF’s, Springsteen and Bonjovi.
Btw – I saw him on Seaside boardwalk this week. He’s still fat.
bloviator on May 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM
You can expect a feathered shafted arrow in the back at every moment you dally with such ilk.
Don L on May 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM
a perilously good take
DanMan on May 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM
I would not have resented Christie’s gratitude towards Obama for hurricane relief – IF in fact such relief had been delivered. The FEMA response was worse than Katrina by far, a model of unpreparedness and incompetence. The promised help never arrived – and to some extent, still hasn’t.
INSTEAD, just like the media, Christie gave Obama full credit for his empty promises. Such a man is not to be trusted, his judgment is poor.
Adjoran on May 9, 2013 at 3:05 PM
First, a fat man would die within 2 years as President of the USA. The new SLIM Christie might die within the first year. Where do Republicans find these losers?!
Second, if the Republican party comes up with another liberal like McCain or Romney, or a Michelle favorite like Christie then they will not get my vote. I’ll vote Libertarian or maybe even Democratic party (Hillary probably).
Karmi on May 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Or this.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/christie_and_hillary_clinton_t.html
Read the guest list.
Jacob Lew, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Chelsea Clinton, actress Eva Longoria and American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten
I didn’t mean to make it about the lap band but more about his lap dance with the dems. When was the last time the guy criticized a prominent Dem? At least Mcain would hit the Dems on FP after capitulating(or aiding) on the other issues.
BoxHead1 on May 9, 2013 at 3:13 PM
“You can expect a feathered shafted arrow in the back at every moment you dally with such ilk.
Don L on May 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM”
Point taken. (pun intended) If the center/right who found Romney an imperfect nominee had shown up at the polls, Obama would have been denied a second term and I doubt we would be talkin’ Christie right now.
IKIDYOUNOT on May 9, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Maybe, but I see him as more ambitious then that. Those famous videos of him smacking down school teachers weren’t filmed by bystanders or the media. That was all his staff.
He might fail for a variety of reasons but not for lack of ambition.
BoxHead1 on May 9, 2013 at 3:19 PM
…
I doubt that very, very much, Ed! But it was funny, anyway.
Chris Christie is done as a national figure for conservatives. He is despised here at HotAir by virtually every commenter I have read over the past … er … seven months.
Maybe Ed thinks Christie can compete for the Republican nomination without getting 5% of the conservatives, but I am not that good at math. Sure, he’ll have lots of liberal money, until he runs against another liberal, of course. Then he’ll need conservatives, and he will not get them.
After getting suckered into supporting stupid, cranky, open borders John McCain, and then The Father of ObamaCare, Mitt Romney, the great majority of conservatives have now been persuaded by those who said all along — Don’t do it. Don’t nominate a moderate … you’ll get killed. And we did, twice. We get it, and it won’t happen again.
Pro- gay marriage; tax and spend; pro- gun control; a fraud on abortion (he’ll probably “evolve” between now and 2016) … he’s no conservative. Have fun as Governor of Spew Jersey, the 2nd highest tax state in America.
Jaibones on May 9, 2013 at 3:20 PM
No chance for the big guy. He’s a less likable version of Giuliani and the mayor couldn’t move the needle among conservatives.
demsdelendaest on May 9, 2013 at 3:21 PM
You may get your wish because MSNBC wants to hold the first debate in two weeks.
slickwillie2001 on May 9, 2013 at 3:24 PM
TS Sandy and a low pressure system joined to form the Superstorm. FEMA, Obama and Christie joined to become the disaster.
bloviator on May 9, 2013 at 3:25 PM
I dislike him more then Obama. And am willing to say that on a Republican message board.
If Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, Mike Castle, and Lisa Murkowski get in the race, I would focus all my effort against the incredible shrinking bastard.
KMav on May 9, 2013 at 3:49 PM
Perhaps we should remind Ed and some others here that, among Christie’s other shortcomings already posted above and in addition to his support of the Ground Zero Mosque, we have this political gem:
http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/01/15/christie-taps-muslim-for-nj-bench/#sthash.o2S5PhCf.dpbs
timmytee on May 9, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Christy’s undeniable communication skill and charisma won’t translate well in a national campaign, i don’t think, where the pol can’t easily get touchy-feely with the crowds showing up at rallies. Nevertheless, it is very definitely also a set of attributes and political skill that shouldn’t be overlooked. Romney could have used some of that sort of warmth, for example.
I see Christy as a natural Veep candidate for someone more ideologically conservative though, rather than as yet another RINO presidential candidate.. He’s a tough debater and he has this great common touch, but these skills and attributes won’t translate well to the top of the ticket.
MTF on May 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM
yeah … Christie definitely did himself in with his public post-Sandy Obama-fellatio. Until then, many of his liberal positions could be overlooked because of the constant stream of Christie-porn we’d receive as he bashed union libtards.
However, what I’d still love to see is Christie as press secretary for a president Rand Paul or Cruz. That way I could entirely overlook his liberal views while once again enjoying my daily Christie-porn as he bashes the liberal press corps.
JSGreg3 on May 9, 2013 at 5:20 PM
If you believe any single candidate could create more disunity in the Republican Party than John McCain and Mitt Romney combined it would be Chris Christie.
Chris Christie is about where we’ve been as a party. It stunk, it’s empty and it’s very lonely. We need to advance, not regress.
I’m personally not about to sacrifice my children’s future to another candidate who throws principle to the wind when it’s politically convenient and then tell us we’re fools and partisans.
Chris Christie is probably one of several candidates who would make me drop my Republican Party affiliation. After him, what would it stand for?
Marcus Traianus on May 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM
I’m in the minority here in that I love Christie and think he would be a good President, but I don’t think he has much of a chance of winning the GOP nomination. Just can’t see him selling in Iowa or South Carolina, or even Ohio. But a lot depends on what the Party does in terms of rescheduling primaries and debates, and who else runs. He could dominate a bunch of debates like Romnmey did, and divide the others who will all be scrambling to be the not-Christie of choice.
Ordinarily I would support Christie for the same reason I supported Romney in 2012, because I thought independent voters would vote for him and win the swing states. But the last two elections have made me much less sure of that formula. I realize that conservatives now hate Christie and might stay home in enough numbers that he can’t win. I think this hurt Romney a great deal. I want a candidate that all conservatives can vote for.
I do think Democrats would have a very hard time “othering” Christie the way they did Romney in 2012. Christie comes from a middle class background, made his bones as a prosecutor, and is running for reelection and will likely win it, proving he can get a lot of Democrats and independents to vote for him. He is much better at articulating why he does not support things like abortion on demand and same sex marriage.
Y’all do need to get off his case about helping Obama win the election. Mitt Romney was never going to win that election.
rockmom on May 9, 2013 at 5:24 PM
You’re right on one of those things. Wrong on all the others.
rockmom on May 9, 2013 at 5:47 PM
He sings Springsteen, natch.
Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on May 9, 2013 at 9:12 PM
— Ed Morrissey
Oh ferchrissakes.
Chris Christie signed a massive GUN CONTROL BILL INTO LAW IN NEW JERSEY to further his own re-election prospects.
He’s hob-knobbing to the Correspondents dinner as ARIANNA HUFFINGTON’s GUEST.
He’s attending WHITE HOUSE events WITH MICHELLE OBAMA, who can’t kiss up to him enough, since she knows he’s a PROGRESSIVE, not a conservative.
He’s got a big mouth, a bigger ego, and he’s AS BIG a NARCISSIST as Obama.
He’s a hypocrite and a liar–”I’d never put politics above my state or my country.”
LIE. He’s already DONE IT, numerous times.
WHAT IS LIKEABLE ABOUT CHRIS CHRISTIE? NOTHING.
mountainaires on May 10, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Thank God someone has some sense around here. Ed has jumped the shark on the fat man. It’s pathetic. Why on earth would you invite your enemy into your home to entertain you and call him “likeable?” He’s not likeable to me in the least. I view him with DISGUST and suspicion. He is all about Chris Christie, nothing else. He’ll say and do anything for his own political benefit. And, he’s every bit as PROGRESSIVE AS BLOOMBERG.
mountainaires on May 10, 2013 at 8:41 AM