New Dem ad: In Paul Ryan’s America, your grandpa will strip to pay for health care

posted at 5:49 pm on April 19, 2011 by Allahpundit

To cleanse the palate, a lighthearted early entry in what’s sure to be an endless procession of progressively grim Mediscare ads over the next 18 months. I’ll level with you — I’m honestly curious to see how far over the top they’ll be willing to take it by the time we get to October 2012. Will they show “restraint” by limiting themselves to spots depicting grandma shivering beneath a blanket under a bridge? Or will the DNC go all the way and actually show us some caskets? With Debbie Wasserman-Schultz in charge, anticipation runs high, my friends.

In fairness, given these poll numbers, the RNC would do the same if the positions were reversed:

Americans clearly don’t want the government to cut Medicare, the government health program for the elderly, or Medicaid, the program for the poor. Republicans in the House of Representatives voted last week to drastically restructure and reduce those programs, while Obama calls for trimming their costs but leaving them essentially intact.

Voters oppose cuts to those programs by 80-18 percent. Even among conservatives, only 29 percent supported cuts, and 68 percent opposed them.

If Republicans try to counter messaging like this with bar graphs, we’ll need caskets for their careers. The only chance we have is to frame it in the same terrifying terms, emphasizing that grandma’s going to end up under the bridge if we don’t act to reform entitlements before we face a Greece-style meltdown. That’ll be a fun ad war, won’t it? By election day, both Obama and the GOP nominee will be cutting commercials in cemeteries, above the tagline, “If only they had voted Democrat/Republican.” Can’t wait.

Update: Ezra Dulis is already on the case with a response vid. As I say, Mediscare tactics can work both ways.


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Democrats vote to end Grandma.

txhsmom on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

vote=voted

txhsmom on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

If ads like these work, then America deserves the fiscal mess it will have in 5 years.

angryed on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Ryan et al should have seen this was coming… why haven’t they taken the opportunity to attack Obama on his Medicare panels?

ninjapirate on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Quite honestly(and I might be wrong), I don’t think these ads will work… why?

Old people hate Obama.

ninjapirate on April 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM

If Republicans try to counter messaging like this with bar graphs, we’ll need caskets for their careers.

Rerun the “Chinese professor”.

the_nile on April 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Actually showing little babies who have no hope of a good education under union mangement being forced to care for the healthcare of people who took took took all their lives…

No one is going to change things to day… but get the college kids to really understand that they are the ones who pay with no benefits in the end… And they can’t even pay because they can’t get work!

petunia on April 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Stupid Dems. We already can’t afford it. It’s no longer there, it’s gone. You can’t print money, you can’t tax enough money. It’s gone.

Oil Can on April 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Let’s not cut anything. It’s like a suicide pact, it’ll be awesome.

Slam some Freebird on the 8-track and let’s hold hands and drive into a brick wall at a 100 mph.

WitchDoctor on April 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Well, I’m screwed. I can’t dance a lick. Sounds like a fun gig if you can get it.

parke on April 19, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Republicans should just run Robert Reiche’ speech where he basically said “sorry grandma”, that hip replacement is too expensive for an old fossil. And remind the weak minded that Obamacare loots $100 billion out of Medicare over 10 years.

Child In Time on April 19, 2011 at 5:56 PM

BTW, Ryan budget doesn’t touch Medicare for anybody over 55… why hasn’t that been advertised? (I think the cutoff age needs to be lowered to age 40 or lower for it to be sold to the public)

Seriously, the GOP has a messaging clusterfark they need to fix…

1. Obama has death panels
2. Changes aren’t for your grandma…

ninjapirate on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Democrats voted to kill my grandmother to cuts costs for ObamaCare and Republicans are voting to get grandfather to hang out with young hotties. Sure, run those commercials.

myrenovations on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

This Ad makes no sense.

Everybody knows there will be no old people after the ObamaCare Death Panels weed them all out.

portlandon on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

This is what passes as the “serious” party? How can you have a construction, adult conversation with the likes of these people?

jawkneemusic on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

HEART-ACHE! And HIP-ache.

leftnomore on April 19, 2011 at 5:58 PM

If Palin runs, you know she`d have her team churn out some sweet “death panel” ads! Can anyone say the other GOP contenders will give as good as we`ll get this upcoming election? Romney doing hard-hitting ads, T-paw?

ThePrez on April 19, 2011 at 5:58 PM

My grandpa would’ve stripped in a room full of ladies for a pint of Maker’s Mark. That was just how he rolled.

Doogie on April 19, 2011 at 5:58 PM

ninjapirate on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

agree…

need to fight fire with fire…forget being Mr. Nice Guy just this once….please!!!!

cmsinaz on April 19, 2011 at 5:59 PM

We need more Chinese professors.

And we need to counter with images of Greece and the outcome that awaits us if we dawdle rather than reform.

Also, I’d throw in an ad with our kids getting old and not having a safety net because we didn’t reform when we had the chance.

They want to do this? Bring it. We can easily counter with a multi-million dollar campaign.

amerpundit on April 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Ryan and Co should frame the debate as

We can borrow money for Medicare that your grand kids will be paying for when they retire. Or we can reform Medicare today and give your grand kids a future.

If there is one thing oldies love it’s them GRAND KIDS.

angryed on April 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Democrats vote to end Grandma.

txhsmom on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

You beat me to it.

Democrats want death panels. That’s not over the top–that’s a fact.

INC on April 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Run ads showing American kids working long hours in Chinese owned assembly lines.

pedestrian on April 19, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Two choices:

1) Restrain spending on Medicare & Medicaid now, and have something left; or

2) Go with the Obama fantasy and watch both programs kill the economy, leaving nothing for Grandma & the poor.

Take your pick.

OhioCoastie on April 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM

This is what it looks like when crappy intellectual movements die. They’ve obviously lost the debate so all they have left are distorted scare tactics.

They’ll show Ryan the ad and he’ll say “We don’t touch Medicare for people on it, or close to being on it, what we do is save Medicare by reforming it, introducing competition, and means testing it.” Liberals will then sit there and say “Uh, well, you want to kill grandma!”

When your vision and intellectual argument are based in the 1920s, like liberalism today, and you have no flexibility because for 40 years you’ve painted the opposition as evil because of X, Y, or Z, your movement collapses.

cpaulus on April 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Donors to the DCCC must be so proud how their money is being spent!

terryannonline on April 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM

angryed on April 19, 2011 at 6:00 PM

good one :)

cmsinaz on April 19, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Voters oppose cuts to those programs by 80-18 percent. Even among conservatives, only 29 percent supported cuts, and 68 percent opposed them.

boneheads…they can’t see the cliff through the obama haze…

cmsinaz on April 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM

If ads like these work, then America deserves the fiscal mess it will have in 5 years.

angryed on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

I’d say five years is a bit conservative. I’m thinking more like the next 18 months or so.

DFCtomm on April 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM

note to DNC if you make seniors guys think they will be striping for young pretty women if they vote for the GOP I will bet you all senior guys will vote for the gop.

unseen on April 19, 2011 at 6:05 PM

If that guy is a retired fireman, he’s probably making over 100 grand and has free health care for life. /

scalleywag on April 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Considering what the leftonians spewed in Wisconsin recently, I wouldn’t be surprised to see ads which have GOP senators dragging people from their homes, kicking them to the curb, and shooting them in the head.

These libs are stone-cold serious about what they want and expect and no measure is too much in their eyes.

Bishop on April 19, 2011 at 6:08 PM

what a stupid stupid ad. Making old guys think they will be able to strip for young women. those heartless DNC people getting the old guys hopes up. that’s cruel.

unseen on April 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM

I guess no one remembers the daisy nuclear ad?

unseen on April 19, 2011 at 6:09 PM

And we need to counter with images of Greece and the outcome that awaits us if we dawdle rather than reform.

That would just be spun as not enough liberalism. It is all the fault of the capitalists and the way they always expect something for their money.

Tommy_G on April 19, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Counter messaging is easy on this one. Fix entitlements now or nobody will have them. Turn the grannies against the single mom’s and drug addicts. Have a commercial featuring Star Parker revealing all the abuses of the entitlement system, and that if they aren’t stopped then entitlements for granny are over.

DFCtomm on April 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Zero and his Dr. Berwick head of MC, who was unvetted by Congress, think that old people are shovel ready jobs. This crew in DC is out to get us. They want to confiscate our dough before we go and hurry the process along.

Kissmygrits on April 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Why not just use the ad they made during the Bush years of kids working in factories? Just change the voice over a bit.

ThePrez on April 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM

In Paul Ryan’s America, your grandpa will strip to pay for health care

In Obama’s America, your grandpa won’t be dancing because he’ll be in his 23rd month of waiting for his hip replacement surgery.

Scrappy on April 19, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Why does the GOP fight fair when the democrats lie cheat and steal to win elections ?

Game On Gloves off.

William Amos on April 19, 2011 at 6:15 PM

In response, just show ads of the actual suffering caused by Dem control of the Senate and Presidency since 2008.

No fantasy stuff needed.

Closed businesses, lost jobs, devastating bankruptcies, higher gas prices, steeper education costs, massive mortagage foreclosures, staggering national debt.

After TARP and the bailouts… nothing has CHANGEd but an increase in HOPElessness.

The Obama Effect: economic stagnation.

profitsbeard on April 19, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Counter messaging is easy on this one.

DFCtomm on April 19, 2011 at 6:11 PM

True. Have to GOP counter by saying.

Americans need jobs not foodstamps.

The elderly need a solveint SS and good healthcare not government hand me downs.

The fewer people we have on welfare and working means that our social safety net is not over burdened and able to help those that cant help themselves.

A good job is greater than the best government handout that you can get.

William Amos on April 19, 2011 at 6:18 PM

I’m sure they exist, but if there are really seniors out there who believe that the Democratic party has their best interests at heart, I’d have to say they have bigger problems than this.

cynccook on April 19, 2011 at 6:20 PM

Well, those 55 and above wont be effected by Ryans budget.

All you need is a commercial showing

* a baby being born and a happy mother,
* the kid growing up happy,
* college graduation,
* her first job,
* then retirement party,

then fade to the year 2025, with grandma trying to get her Medicare started, and being told since the problem was avoided because of political reason, Medicare no longer exists.

Have grandma flash back to 2011, when there was a chance to fix it, and show her watching Democratic commercials demonizing the Ryan plan.

Dont know if you can get that in a 30 second commercial.

WoosterOh on April 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM

BTW, Ryan budget doesn’t touch Medicare for anybody over 55… why hasn’t that been advertised?

1. Obama has death panels
2. Changes aren’t for your grandma…

ninjapirate on April 19, 2011 at 5:57 PM

This “funny” ad needs to be countered with truth and facts.

Fallon on April 19, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Better greedy old bastards stripping than our daughters and granddaughters becoming prostitutes for our Chinese creditors.
Take it off, grandpa…

TexasJew on April 19, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Well I’m convinced.

/libtard

(btw….can I…um….get an application for the stripper job)?

Tim_CA on April 19, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Meh, I’m hot now, no doubt I’ll be hot as a Grandpa… I’ll be ayyight! :)

bernzright777 on April 19, 2011 at 6:29 PM

“Your grandpa will strip to pay for health care.”

Is that Debbie Schultz I see up front with a handful of dollar bills??!

locomotivebreath1901 on April 19, 2011 at 6:29 PM

WoosterOh on April 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM

another good one…

RNC are you listening???

cmsinaz on April 19, 2011 at 6:31 PM

angryed on April 19, 2011 at 5:52 PM

I find 5 years to be overly optimistic.

Republicans should hijack the ad, in fact they should have a whole line of ads with various groups, (grandmas, grandpas, moms, dads, teens, leave no one out) stripping for Chinese men if nothing is done to control costs.

jdkchem on April 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Little Bammie is making these stupid speeches about Ryan’s voucher possibly not covering an insurance plan. Does he have a clue how Medicare works today? Does he really think that it is all free and covers everything?

slickwillie2001 on April 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM

I’ll actually go one better. The Republicans need to run a counter ad showing 14 year old girls servicing old Chinese geezers and say this is what happens if we let the democrats kick the can down the road, again and again.

jdkchem on April 19, 2011 at 6:36 PM

I’m sure they exist, but if there are really seniors out there who believe that the Democratic party and the AARP has their best interests at heart, I’d have to say they have bigger problems than this.

cynccook on April 19, 2011 at 6:20 PM

FIFY

Jeff on April 19, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Bishop on April 19, 2011 at 6:08 PM

+7%…!

The elderly forced to eat out of bio-hazard trash bags behind an abortion clinic…

… wild eyes, blood streaming down the face, and some mystery flesh hanging from razor sharpened dentures.

Seven Percent Solution on April 19, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Touche …and very funny.

The Ugly American on April 19, 2011 at 6:41 PM

I’ll actually go one better. The Republicans need to run a counter ad showing 14 year old girls servicing old Chinese geezers and say this is what happens if we let the democrats kick the can down the road, again and again.

jdkchem on April 19, 2011 at 6:36 PM

That would work, but Trump is the only guy who would run that ad, and thus why Trump has a legit shot at the presidency.

DFCtomm on April 19, 2011 at 6:42 PM

The Full Monty.

John the Libertarian on April 19, 2011 at 6:54 PM

Fine, just show someone pulling a plug on a heart machine and have the voiceover say, “Don’t let President Obama’s health care rationing rules pull the plug on you!”

RedRedRice on April 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Ryans budget is a joke. It will solve the problem maybe in 20 years. Will our currency or our way of life survive that long while it’s trying to work?? No.

Radical reform today, or radical revolucion tomorrow.

The GOP is kicking the can down the road as much as the Dems are.———-

MadDogF on April 19, 2011 at 7:09 PM

It is difficult to understand how the Liberal Democrats retain ANY credibility what so ever with all the pure nonsense they keep throwing out there! Retarded doesn’t begin to cover it!

GFW on April 19, 2011 at 7:14 PM

I have to sympathize with the writers who had to put this thing together, spending endless hours writing and rewriting, editing and re-editing, finally getting their endeavor on film, hoping against hope that Spielberg is out there watching somewhere, and the end result is this.

No wonder talent is virtually non-existent in Hollywood these days.

pilamaye on April 19, 2011 at 7:20 PM

In many areas, I’m often far too naive. But I have to ask, among indies/swing-voters, is demagoguery and hyperbolic emotional appeals still affective?

anuts on April 19, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Obviously telling the truth is not on the Dems agenda.

sadatoni on April 19, 2011 at 7:40 PM

In many areas, I’m often far too naive. But I have to ask, among indies/swing-voters, is demagoguery and hyperbolic emotional appeals still affective?

anuts on April 19, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Oh, yeah. Didn’t you see the poll that was up here a few weeks ago? Indies are the most out of touch, uninformed voters there are, on average, so demagoguery in a 60 second format is probably the only thing that works.

DFCtomm on April 19, 2011 at 7:43 PM

What about an ad where a senior gets a big, fat bill. Then he objects, “But I’m on Medicare!” The lady at the payment desk says, “Well, yes you are. The Democrats made sure you got to stay on medicare. Only, they did it by reducing reimbursement for everything to where Medicare covered exactly, let me see here…five dollars of your entire stay.”

Sekhmet on April 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Clever ad. Scaring seniors always works. Just look at the Obamacare debate.

Me thinks the demrats have over estimated the cowardice of the generation that sacrificed their futures for the sake of their children during WWII. These folks are not stupid nor are they fearful.

It will be our seniors who help lead the charge to reform medicare for the sake of their grand children.

csdeven on April 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

I’m guessing there’s a lot of senior men out there hoping Rand gets his way.

stuartm650 on April 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

I’m an older guy. Why does everyone think I am stupid? This is nothing but an addition and subtraction problem. So many people are paying into the funds (SS, Medicare, Medicaid) and there are so many people receiving funds. Just show that more is being subtracted than being added. This is not multiplication and long division. Sheesh.

Mirimichi on April 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM

This is pathetic.

Red Cloud on April 19, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Death panels will prevent this from happening to Pap-Pap, no worries.

Didn’t Obama take a half-trillion dollars from Medicare to fund Health Care Reform, or something? What the heck: It’s just money!

Philly on April 19, 2011 at 8:48 PM

The counter-argument is just as easy. Child labor. Have a few toddlers slaving away in a coal mine, with grandma cracking whips over their backs and planning her next cruise. And then end with a three year old working the pole for tips at the local gentleman’s club.

phelps on April 19, 2011 at 8:49 PM

In Barry’s America, your grandpa has no clothes to strip out of.

bayview on April 19, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Seems to me that, without reform, it’s Grandpa’s grandchildren that will be pole-dancing to support his Medicare and social security.

Socratease on April 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM

It will be our seniors who help lead the charge to reform medicare for the sake of their grand children.

csdeven on April 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM

LoL.

It’s mine, but you can’t have any because it’s bad.

Seniors are the problem. They worked their entire lives, didn’t save a dime, and now force me to work for them.

I love my grandparents, but god bless em’, f’n retard financiers.

MadDogF on April 19, 2011 at 9:15 PM

We’re a nation of Crystal Gail Mangums!

SouthernGent on April 19, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Hmm, Grandpa stripping for cash or “The Road” in real life. How are Grandpa’s survival skills at that age?

AbeFroman on April 19, 2011 at 9:48 PM

In Obama’s world, Grampy and Granny have to strip to get on a freaking airplane AND be groped and sexually assulted.

stenwin77 on April 19, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Rerun the “Chinese professor”.

the_nile on April 19, 2011 at 5:53 PM

That only shows a willingness to sell out to China, possibly by interests related to the ad’s sponsor. Selling out to China is not something we should be encouraging or allowing the possiblity to even be raised.

The only thing that commercial should encourage is a disassociation from interests friendly to China. Not encourage a “reduce debt or experience subjugation” discussion.

sethstorm on April 20, 2011 at 4:45 AM

the repubs need to run an add, from the child point of view of a young family in the fifties full of hope moving into a house. Then move the time frame forward a decade at a time, showing, the decay until at the end, the “child” gives the old couple black pills, and says, “I’m sorry, the only advise of yours I ever took, was to vote democrat.” Then the camera backs off and shows ghost town Detroit.

Slowburn on April 20, 2011 at 5:56 AM

I forgot to have the “child” say “This will stop the pain.” when handing out the pills.

Slowburn on April 20, 2011 at 6:01 AM

Atually, if the Dems keep these up long enough they may become parodies of themselves. I’m not sure we can count on it, though.

njcommuter on April 20, 2011 at 11:07 AM

Why are Democrats always the first to lower standards of civility?

scotash on April 20, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Good lord, why do we always act like people over 65 aren’t the richest, most politically influential age group in the country? These old timers are “the rich,” and it’s about time we stopped subsidizing their health insurance when they are without question the one group of people with the means to pay for it.

If we want a safety net for poor people, keep Medicaid. Having both Medicaid and Medicare is just redundant.

Enrique on April 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM