PPP poll: Trump totally running away with this GOP race now; Update: Used to support universal health care

posted at 5:32 pm on April 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

I don’t know what’s left to say about polls like this that I haven’t already said, so follow that last link if you missed it the first time around. Today’s funsies: Trump 26, Huckabee 17, Romney 15, Gingrich 11, Palin 8.

Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they’re willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory and those folks want Mitt Romney to be their nominee for President next year. With the other 62% of Republicans- 23% of whom say they are only willing to vote for a birther and 39% of whom are not sure- Donald Trump is cleaning up. And as a result Trump’s ridden the controversy about Barack Obama’s place of birth to the highest level of support we’ve found for anyone in our national GOP polling so far in 2011…

Among that 23% only willing to vote for a birther Trump is cleaning up even more, getting 37% to 13% for Huckabee and Palin, and 10% for Romney and Gingrich. He’s a lot weaker with the 38% who say they’re perfectly happy to vote for someone who’s dismissed the birther theory- with them Romney leads at 23%, with Huckabee at 18%, Trump at 17%, Gingrich at 10%, and Palin at only 7%.

Couple of things here. One: Take a good, hard look at this classic Gallup poll from March 2007. Remember it whenever you see any new “Trump leads” data going forward. Two: No one seriously believes that 23 percent of Republicans have a hard-and-fast “Birthers only!” rule in the primaries. As Ben Smith notes, that’s less of a serious metric than it is a case of Kos’s pollster throwing chum in the water for the nutroots. Three: The one interesting data point here is that, without Trump in the race, Huckabee, Gingrich, and Palin all gain at least four points — whereas Romney gains just one. Last week, I thought there might be some overlap in the Trump and Romney bases, but this suggests that the Donald is pulling more votes from the right than from the center. Is that a result of his Birther push or more a function of grassroots conservatives looking for an outsider because they’re tired of politics as usual?

Via Mediaite, here’s his interview this afternoon with Rush Limbaugh. It opens with Trump donating $100,000 to the annual cure-a-thon.

Update: I already knew this and have linked at least one piece previously in Headlines about it, but if you missed it then, you’ll be hearing much more about it if he runs:

For a few months, Trump hashed out a policy agenda. It wasn’t much, but it was enough to fill a quickie book: The America We Deserve, published in January 2000. The Trump of 11 years ago sounds a lot like the Trump who has taken over cable TV and the Huffington Post top banner these past few weeks: He’s against immigration amnesty. He’s worried about terrorism. He’s rending his hair over America’s economic decline. Oh, and there were a few other things.

“We must have universal healthcare,” wrote Trump. “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses.”

The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. “Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,” he writes.

So there’s something else he has in common with Romney, I guess.


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Alternate headline: “Dem plot to win 2012 going as planned”

jp on April 15, 2011 at 5:33 PM

It opens with Trump donating $100,000 to his annual cure-a-thon.

Who does he think he is, Keith Olbermann?

lorien1973 on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

I thought we were the serious party….

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

more a function of grassroots conservatives looking for an outsider because they’re tired of politics as usual?

That…

repvoter on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Donald Trump in 2000:

I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. For individuals, net worth would be calculated minus the value of their principal residence. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt [and shore up the Social Security Trust Fund].

And that’s not all.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they’re willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory

Good.

If you aren’t willing to hold Obama to the same standard you hold other presidents then you shouldn’t be in the White House. As McCain showed us, you aren’t going to win if that sort of deferential thinking is how you operate.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Trump looked shaky in his interview with Hannity. That’s like saying Obama looked shaky in his interview with Stephanopolous.

fiatboomer on April 15, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Alternate headline: “Dem plot to win 2012 going as planned”

jp on April 15, 2011 at 5:33 PM

That is right, keep trying to bully and intimidate people to not demand that our constitution is followed. That is what all you anti-constitutionalists want.

astonerii on April 15, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Makes me regret being a republican
Birthers are a pimple on the wart on the butt of the party

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I thought we were the serious party….

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

84……since then we are more Pixar

Limerick on April 15, 2011 at 5:39 PM

What do you expect when you keep taking PPP polling seriously?

They just make stuff up.

tetriskid on April 15, 2011 at 5:39 PM

As for following the constitution, I’m more worried about the Feds ignoring the 10th amendment than the 2nd

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Also, what are his views on illegal immgration.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

I thought he was to suggest a import tax on Chinese goods or something like that

Oil Can on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

That is right, keep trying to bully and intimidate people to not demand that our constitution is followed. That is what all you anti-constitutionalists want.

astonerii on April 15, 2011 at 5:36 PM

That’s right! All those anti-constitutionalists like Glenn Beck, and Mark Levin, and Sarah Palin, and Ann Coulter, and Jim DeMint…damn those people!

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

It’s partially a result of his being on Rush Limbaugh’s program twice now. And getting a warm reception.

Dreadnought on April 15, 2011 at 5:41 PM

That’s right! All those anti-constitutionalists like Glenn Beck, and Mark Levin, and Sarah Palin, and Ann Coulter, and Jim DeMint…damn those people!

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Sarah Palin said “more power to him” as I recall. She has no problem with Obama being asked about it.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:41 PM

And that’s not all.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

*grinning* I see what you did there.

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Donald Trump in 2000:

I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. For individuals, net worth would be calculated minus the value of their principal residence. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt [and shore up the Social Security Trust Fund].
And that’s not all.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

That’s 11 years ago.

Dreadnought on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

This is a tempest in a teapot, so much sturm und drang, sound and fury signifying nothing.

The idea that Trump is going to make his finances public, or put his assets in a blind trust is laughable. It’s not going to happen.

This is nothing more than an advertisement for next year’s The Apprentice.

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

I’m finding it harder and harder to take PPP seriously. I think they’re trying to shape public opinion rather than gauge it.

And reading their blog… someone questioned their use of registered voters rather than likely voters and they responded they found the same results with registered voters as likely voters because people who stay on the telephone line long enough to answer the whole survey are likely voters. Anyone who pays attention to polls knows that registered voters bump up Dem numbers. And when you screen for likely voters, GOP numbers go back up.

dforston on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

lol…the pollsters has a two-horse race and they are betting on the one in the colorful saddle blanket.

Limerick on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Not really a relevant poll. This is just the democrats and MSM trying to dictate who the GOP nominee will be. Just like they did in 2008, and we remember how well that turned out. I notice that all the candidates other than Trump are the losers from 2008. The GOP will have new blood in the primaries. No sense even talking about this group of unelectables.

Tommy_G on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Sarah Palin said “more power to him” as I recall. She has no problem with Obama being asked about it.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Yeah, because she knows it’d be political suicide to do it herself.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

As for following the constitution, I’m more worried about the Feds ignoring the 10th amendment than the 2nd

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Please. They’ve been ignoring the 10th for our entire lifetimes and longer.

Missy on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Just to put this in perspective: by April 2007 it looked like McCain had little momentum and the “draft Fred Thompson” effort was still gaining steam. By July it looked like McCain was out of the race.

We all know how that turned out.

Khorum on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

As for following the constitution, I’m more worried about the Feds ignoring the 10th amendment than the 2nd

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Well, they certainly do it more readily, that’s for sure.

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

This is a tempest in a teapot, so much sturm und drang, sound and fury signifying nothing.

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Exactly.

rrpjr on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Somebody needs to activate the giant caviar signal over Gotham. We need to get Ivana and Marla out here talking asap.

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

more a function of grassroots conservatives looking for an outsider because they’re tired of politics as usual?

This.

nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

That’s 11 years ago.

Dreadnought on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

The guy makes a proposal so socialist that even Barack Obama wouldn’t try it, a proposal that would make Nicolae Ceausescu proud…and you dismiss it because it was a mere 11 years ago?

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Raising the bar.

The GOP field needs exactly that.

Here’s the reason cream rises to the top.

When you dilly dally somebodies going come along just like the Donald and reach for the ring.

Speakup on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

That’s right! All those anti-constitutionalists like Glenn Beck, and Mark Levin, and Sarah Palin, and Ann Coulter, and Jim DeMint…damn those people!

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Anyone who has been cowed into ignoring parts of the consitution because it is not popular today are in fact just that. So, yeah, Palin does have this going against her as well as those other people you mention.

astonerii on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Yeah, because she knows it’d be political suicide to do it herself.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

It must be surreal living a life where every turn deadends in ‘damned if you do and damned if you don’t’.

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Yeah, because she knows it’d be political suicide to do it herself.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Maybe, but she isn’t fool enough not to realize that a lot of people are asking questions about the insane double standard. She has felt that double standard more than most.

I hope Trump clears the air and perhaps even encourages some of the weak-kneed GOP men to try being a little braver. So far they only tend to attack other Republicans.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Anyone who has been cowed into ignoring parts of the consitution because it is not popular today are in fact just that. So, yeah, Palin does have this going against her as well as those other people you mention.

astonerii on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Many people have stated it better than I can, but let’s face it: that dog won’t hunt. Time to let it go.

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

The guy makes a proposal so socialist that even Barack Obama wouldn’t try it,

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Are you really so sure that he wouldn’t try it?

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Only one way to settle this, haircut match!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXdpp_bmpLI

swamp_yankee on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

I thought we were the serious party….

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Well you thought wrong

ernesto on April 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM

As noted on the thread about this in Headlines, the PPP poll used carefully worded questions to attain the result they wanted.

Del Dolemonte on April 15, 2011 at 5:49 PM

I thought we were the serious party….

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

oh come one, he just loves attention (and he gets a lot of it these days) and he’s obviously having fun with the whole idea of running for president…have you seen the interview with Hannity yesterday? he’s a joke on most issues (but he’s hilarious as well :), frankly Zero will sweep the floors with him in a debate…he’ll never get the Rep nomination, he might pull a Ross Perrot, but then hey, it’s his right to do so…

This is nothing more than an advertisement for next year’s The Apprentice.

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

I think so too, though he’s vehemently denying it :-)…he says that his is the most successful show on TV anyways, and he dosn’t need to advertise it hahaha :-)

jimver on April 15, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Yeah, because she knows it’d be political suicide to do it herself.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Yes, its such a losing issue, yet Trump is going after it and he’s ahead in these polls? Seems like a contradiction, there, don’t you think?

I don’t think Trump would be a good president, and I will not vote for him if given the option in the primary. I will also be livid if he goes third party, but I am delighted that he is pursuing the birther issue, because I want to see the “natural born citizen” eligibility definition addressed.

The issue is not going to just “go away” as much as you would like it to. My state already passed the bill, and there are others in the works.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Are you really so sure that he wouldn’t try it?

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

We talk about what a narcissistic egomaniac Obama is, and it’s true. However, Trump may very well…er…”trump” him in that category. I think Obama’s cabinet would tie him up and stick him in the broom closet before they’d let him propose such a thing.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I’ll sound like a giddy schoolgirl if I post my feelings, so I’ll just leave it at “Wow!”

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Trump will do and say anything to draw attention to himself.

MCGIRV on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I don’t believe any PPP Poll, due to their Liberal bias.
However…

Any Liberal or so-called “fiscal” Conservative (a pseudonym for an incognito Libertarian or socially-Liberal Moderate ) acts like you’ve run over puppies or your family tree doesn’t fork, when you try to broach this subject with them. So, perhaps, The Donald, in all of his egotistical flamboyance, is actually performing a service for our nation by pushing the issue of Obama’s missing birth certificate into the national spotlight once again.

That being said, I don’t trust Donald Trump anymore than I believe that he has a full head of hair under that comb-over.

However, I am enjoying watching the Liberals and fiscal Conservatives squirm.

Pass the popcorn.

kingsjester on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Yes, its such a losing issue, yet Trump is going after it and he’s ahead in these polls? Seems like a contradiction, there, don’t you think?

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Trump’s ahead in the polls because conservatives quickly become enamored with people who get loud and brash in the face of their opponents. Remember someone named Chris Christie? Remember how quickly everyone creamed their pants over a possible President Christie? How much do you hear about him now? We discovered he wasn’t the conservative we expected, and the enthusiasm waned. This is the same thing.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

It opens with Trump donating $100,000 to the annual cure-a-thon.

Gee, that doesn’t smell of ulterior motive at all!

Most people would do that sort of thing…quietly.

JetBoy on April 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Many people have stated it better than I can, but let’s face it: that dog won’t hunt. Time to let it go.

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:47 PM

That dog is hunting as we speak. You keep denying it, though, if it makes you feel better.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM

What Trump represents is an indictment against the GOP leadership, its candidates and its entire shrinking violet mentality.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM

How the heck is pretending to run, getting a whole bunch of people excited, only to bow out, good for ratings? I don’t think I’d ever want to look at a candidate again after they get my hopes up. Heck, it took me awhile to be able to look at Fred! again after he bowed out in ’08.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Does PPP stand for Progressive Push Polling?

darwin-t on April 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Like Sarah Palin and Michelle BAchmann, Trump is ready and willing to fight the crazy Democrats. The rest of the Republicans are afraid to upset the Democrats and their media partners.

RJL on April 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Trump’s ahead in the polls because conservatives quickly become enamored with people who get loud and brash in the face of their opponents. Remember someone named Chris Christie? Remember how quickly everyone creamed their pants over a possible President Christie? How much do you hear about him now? We discovered he wasn’t the conservative we expected, and the enthusiasm waned. This is the same thing.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Well, which is it? Are they excited about Trump because he’s speaking bluntly about Obama, or because he’s taking on the birther issue?

Not everyone was excited about Christie. Many were, including one you mentioned above, Ann Coulter, because she is on your side on the birther issue, apparently still is.

You paint with too broad a brush.

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canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

I thought we were the serious party….

drballard on April 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Well you thought wrong

ernesto on April 15, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Which side successfully stole a 2008 US Senate election for a comedian who used to write for Saturday Night Live?

Hint, it wasn’t the Republicans.

Del Dolemonte on April 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Only a birfer would support this man for president:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQPf3Cx-9eE&NR=1

swamp_yankee on April 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Nice image. LOL.

kingsjester on April 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Trump 2012 is Dean 2004.

Did anyone take Dean seriously at first? No. Then he led and everyone said no way, he’s not serious. And yes he blew it, but one less scream and who knows?

I like Trump. Yea he’s…well….Trump. But we’ve had nothing but SERIOUS candidates going back to 1988. And what has that done for us? What we don’t need is another SERIOUS candidate like Romney or Pawlenty whose only big decision will be to raise taxes a lot or raise taxes a hell of a lot.

angryed on April 15, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Boy,this GOP/Tea Party Trump thingy is getting hotter
than cute little kittys on a hot tin barn roof!!

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 6:01 PM

How the heck is pretending to run, getting a whole bunch of people excited, only to bow out, good for ratings? I don’t think I’d ever want to look at a candidate again after they get my hopes up. Heck, it took me awhile to be able to look at Fred! again after he bowed out in ’08.

Aslans Girl on April 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Teh Fled was at least a real candidate, who had had to go through all the pain in the arse rules of being a federal officeholder before.

Trump is getting ink, which is all he has ever cared about through his professional life as far as I can tell.

But I’ll ask you… do you really think that he is going to release his financial records, or be prepared to put his businesses in a blind trust?

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Well, which is it? Are they excited about Trump because he’s speaking bluntly about Obama, or because he’s taking on the birther issue?

The former, if that wasn’t clear. Polls have consistently shown the majority to be leery of birthers, with about 25% stalwarts in the camp. Same usually goes for conspiracy theories.

Not everyone was excited about Christie. Many were, including one you mentioned above, Ann Coulter, because she is on your side on the birther issue, apparently still is.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

I didn’t say she was always right. I’m pointing out that calling non-birthers “anti-constitutionalist” is fallacious and ridiculous.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Does PPP stand for Progressive Push Polling?

darwin-t on April 15, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Sorta.

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/04/15/trump-the-frontrunner-not-so-f

It’s well-established that poll results can be seriously skewed by question order and phrasing. The way this poll is written seems quite likely to prejudice respondents to think of Trump as a particularly interesting candidate. This is supposed to be a scientific assessment of Trump’s electoral strength?

The tenth question in the poll asks if respondents would “be willing or unwilling to support a candidate for the Republican Presidential nomination who firmly stated they believed Barack Obama was born in the United States”; 23% of the sample says ‘unwilling,’ and PPP claims that this explains Trump’s high poll numbers. Please.

Del Dolemonte on April 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM

What Trump represents is an indictment against the GOP leadership, its candidates and its entire shrinking violet mentality.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM

True. That’s the story here, which the GOP is guaranteed not to figure out.

rrpjr on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Like Sarah Palin and Michelle BAchmann, Trump is ready and willing to fight the crazy Democrats. The rest of the Republicans are afraid to upset the Democrats and their media partners.

RJL on April 15, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Correct on the first two, but not the Donald. I heard him say that he thought Paul Ryan was moving to far out there on the budget. If anything, Trump’s a RINO at heart….

idesign on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Trump / Forbes 2012

I’d pull the lever for it.

The Chewbacca Defense on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

I have busted my farking azz for the last 12 weeks. I am so farking tired that I just cannot see. All I can say is this

Love one another

/crying, that’s all I got

Key West Reader on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Meh…

… It’s not even 2012 yet.

Let the Donald have his fun…

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM

This race won’t be serious until / if Sarah Palin jumps into it.

We all know this. She’s the only one that will take it right to Obama – all of it …

And she’s the only one the base will move hell and highwater to support.

PPP’s poll is a push – if they can get Trump as the GOP nominee they’re in hog heaven! Uhm … by the way – Trump has A HELLUVA LOT of baggage. We all know how he divorced Ivana for a younger woman … and I can’t wait until all the high class call girls come out of the woodwork to interview with the NYT!

The guy was a seriously addicted to women – which, don’t get me wrong – I admire – but hardly Presidential material you know?

HondaV65 on April 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Nice image. LOL.

kingsjester on April 15, 2011 at 6:00 PM

kingsjester:Hehe,thats from last nights QOTD,when Harry Ried
couldn’t wipe the smile off his face,talking abo
ut Trump on CNN!!:)

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

You going to post that link on *every* Trump post?

nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM

If anything, Trump’s a RINO at heart….

idesign on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

He’s not even that.

I’m quite sure at one point he was a registered Democrat. Are we even sure he is registered GOP now?

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Donald Trump in 2000:

I would impose a one-time, 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts with a net worth over $10 million. For individuals, net worth would be calculated minus the value of their principal residence. That would raise $5.7 trillion in new revenue, which we would use to pay off the entire national debt [and shore up the Social Security Trust Fund].

And that’s not all.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

He’s been a rock solid conservative , for a month…

the_nile on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Once again, at MadisonConservative. I am right there with you in your observation about the fickle nature of people when it comes to these candidates.

I have watched one after another generate excitement, and then the politician says or does one thing people don’t approve of, and it’s “Well, that’s it! Forget so-and-so!”

We are desperate for a conservative leader to take us out of the financial abyss we are in. Trump is not that leader.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

True. That’s the story here, which the GOP is guaranteed not to figure out.

rrpjr on April 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

They never will IMHO. Their guys are Romney, Daniels, and Pawlenty. And they will be shocked and amazed when they down in flames against Obama or Hillary, or whomever.

Those guys couldn’t beat Pee-Wee Herman.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

And btw, I hardly think he’s still down with that idea.

nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Thankfully, I know it’s nothing to get worked up over. PPP hasn’t every gotten anything right, number one. Number two, we all know that how you ask the questions and how they’re positioned in the poll can influence the results.

But most importantly, three: We don’t have anyone who has declared yet. Two have started their exploratory committees. It’s too early to state categorically that any issue is going to be relevant when the primaries start.

I do get a kick, though, about how the moonbats are really trying to influence the GOP selection process before it even begins.

Tennman on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I will say though – that, in a collapsing republic – you’d expect the final Presidents to be clowns.

That’s the way it was during the fall of the Roman Empire – can’t see it being much different for the U.S.

HondaV65 on April 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM

The guy was a seriously addicted to women – which, don’t get me wrong – I admire – but hardly Presidential material you know?

HondaV65 on April 15, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I dunno… worked just fine for Billy Jeff…

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Meh…

… It’s not even 2012 yet.

Let the Donald have his fun…

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Seven Percent Solution:Right on…….its like hunting,and
putting bait out there,drawing in a
ll kinds of LibTards!!

Over next year,Trump is going to know
who his real Liberal friends are!!:)

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 6:08 PM

I’m glad The Dullard is getting Republicans hot and bothered now while there’s still plenty of time for non-New Yorkers to realize what most of us here already know–that he’s a putrid, onanistic, blowhard with scores of bankruptcies to his name. He’ll have worn out the bedsheets in time time for any real candidates (like say, Cain, Palin, or Bachmann) to jump into the mix. We’ll be screaming Dump Trump before September.

Western_Civ on April 15, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Did Trump declare bankruptcy? Twice?

Sure that’s who we want “FIXING” our economy?

dforston on April 15, 2011 at 6:09 PM

I can see Trump in Monty Pythons Holy Grail,

bring out your brain deads,bring out your Liberals,
(snark)!

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Is that a result of his Birther push or more a function of grassroots conservatives looking for an outsider because they’re tired of politics as usual?

It’s because Trump is going hammer-and-tongs against Obama without apology. It’s refreshing; if only we could have a regular politician do the same.

JeffWeimer on April 15, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Yes, its such a losing issue, yet Trump is going after it and he’s ahead in these polls?

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 5:51 PM

When people say “this is a losing issue,” I don’t think they mean “this is a losing issue with GOP primary voters.”

HTH.

crr6 on April 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM

The guy makes a proposal so socialist that even Barack Obama wouldn’t try it, a proposal that would make Nicolae Ceausescu proud…and you dismiss it because it was a mere 11 years ago?

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Um, yes? He wasn’t even a serious candidate 11 years ago. And you know how much he loves to hear himself talk. As I said, I hardly think he’s still down with that idea.

nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM

cynccook on April 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

What are they going to say? That they got a lot of money in the divorce? That Trump is very involved with his kids? These exes don’t have the kind of ammunition that Gingrich’s ex does. Oh, and to get Gingrich’s ex to talk, one doesn’t have to send out a bat-signal — she comes to the press vountarily. So far, Ivana and Marla have been quiet. In fact, Ivana and Donald seem to get along very well after the divorce.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 15, 2011 at 6:12 PM

We all know how he divorced Ivana for a younger woman

Trump is now married to a woman 24 years younger than himself. Limbaugh’s wife is 26 years younger than him.

Sounds about right.

Emperor Norton on April 15, 2011 at 6:12 PM

He’s been a rock solid conservative , for a month…

the_nile on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Giggle

JohnGalt23 on April 15, 2011 at 6:13 PM

And that’s not all.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:35 PM

MadisonConservative:Interesting,Knowledge is Power,
and Power,is Victory!:)

canopfor on April 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

That is right, keep trying to bully and intimidate people to not demand that our constitution is followed. That is what all you anti-constitutionalists want.

astonerii on April 15, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Jesus tapdancing Christ, what ridiculous histrionics.

Vyce on April 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

I didn’t say she was always right. I’m pointing out that calling non-birthers “anti-constitutionalist” is fallacious and ridiculous.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 6:02 PM

So, the issue of who is eligible to run for president under the definition of “Natural Born Citizen,” is of no interest to you? You don’t care about what the constitution means? Seems to me you and all the rest of the anti-birthers are indeed wearing blinders.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Remember someone named Chris Christie? Remember how quickly everyone creamed their pants over a possible President Christie? How much do you hear about him now? We discovered he wasn’t the conservative we expected, and the enthusiasm waned. This is the same thing.

MadisonConservative on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

You’re reminding me of Trump, lol. You kind of like to hear yourself talk, even if what you say is BS.

How much do you hear about Christie? Um, a lot. Just because he killed enthusiasm for a 2012 POTUS run doesn’t mean he became any less popular. Guarantee you there are still a ton of Christie backers for a 2016 run.

nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 6:14 PM

The guy donated money to Chuck Schumer. Chuck F#$king Schumer!!

Caper29 on April 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM

crr6 on April 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Thanks, but I don’t need your “help.”

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Um, yes? He wasn’t even a serious candidate 11 years ago. And you know how much he loves to hear himself talk. As I said, I hardly think he’s still down with that idea.
nickj116 on April 15, 2011 at 6:11 PM

With critical thinking like this, we cant help but win…second place.

Western_Civ on April 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Once again, at MadisonConservative. I am right there with you in your observation about the fickle nature of people when it comes to these candidates.

I have watched one after another generate excitement, and then the politician says or does one thing people don’t approve of, and it’s “Well, that’s it! Forget so-and-so!”

We are desperate for a conservative leader to take us out of the financial abyss we are in. Trump is not that leader.

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Agreed.

I mean, to a point, it’s perfectly acceptable to switch around, especially this early in the game. Heck, even I became a Palinista for about a week or so a while back, until the booze and drugs wore off ;)

Heh, seriously tho…we’ve seen so many jump on this one or that one (Christie, Scott Brown) only to be a tad disappointed…and that happens when the person simply suggests something they don’t like. That bus is going to need a higher chassis.

And another thing, there is…again, to a point rightly so…an anti-incumbent movement thing going around. But the deal is, we need incumbents too. They know how the system works, we just gotta demand they do what they promise to do. Or heck, I’ll be dumping my trash bags at Boehner’s front door myself.

All these fresh-faced candidates that say “Hey, I’m a DC outsider, and I’m one of you…and when I get to Capitol Hill, I’m gonna change things!” nonsense rarely works. They get to DC, and are swallowed up by it…and they have to play by the rules, or they get nothing done.

JetBoy on April 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Thanks, but I don’t need your “help.”

JannyMae on April 15, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Aw. You face is red, dear.

crr6 on April 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Trump will do and say anything to draw attention to himself.

MCGIRV on April 15, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Just like Barry Soetoro

SouthernGent on April 15, 2011 at 6:17 PM

People like a fighter.

Whether they like his policies will be another matter.

But as long as Trump is kicking and biting and gouging the Untouchable (to other “respectable” R candidates) Barack, The Donald is winning admirers …for his tenacity, if not his perspicacity.

profitsbeard on April 15, 2011 at 6:18 PM

I still would rather vote for Palin.

But, I don’t understand how Conservatives can be against a successful businessman running for office, especially in this day of economic hardship?

So, we want free enterprisers running everything except the government now?

Where have professional politicians/lawyers gotten us?

Did Trump declare bankruptcy? Twice?

Sure that’s who we want “FIXING” our economy?

dforston on April 15, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Many successful people have had setbacks, but came roaring back. I do find it inspirational that Trump was able to make himself rich three times in a row.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 15, 2011 at 6:18 PM

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