Goldman Sachs: More than half of Obama plan increased taxes

posted at 3:35 pm on April 15, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Courtesy of James Pethokoukis at Reuters, here’s your chart of the day, provided in this instance from Goldman Sachs.  The investment house undertook the rather Herculean task of committing Obama’s ambiguities on Wednesday into some coherent economic policy in order to score the deficit reduction “plan” against those offered by others in Washington, including Paul Ryan.  Pay close attention to where the Obama plan makes up the deficit:

First, it should be noted that Goldman Sachs did its scoring over the traditional 1o-year period, not the gimmicky 12 years the President used in the speech.  That allowed the firm to score the five plans on an apples-to-apples basis, and as readers can see for themselves, the plan comes in either third or fourth on savings out of the five.  The note on the score shows that Obama’s savings could be up to 1% of GDP less than stated if one moves away from the rosy economic projections coming out of the White House.  Obama’s plan only beats that of, er, Obama’s actual budget proposal for FY2012.

Even at the rosy level, though, the 1.9%  of GDP of deficit “savings” come in enhanced revenue — ie, taxes. That’s far higher than another other plan on the table; even Simpson-Bowles only hikes taxes by 1.4% of GDP, reducing discretionary spending by more than they tax at 1.7% of GDP.  Obama envisions an 0.8% of GDP imbalance the other direction, cutting more out of taxpayers’ pockets than he does out of government bureaucracies.  He also barely dents healthcare spending despite the fact that most of the deficit problems we face come from Medicare and Medicaid spending, trimming only 0.3% GDP over 10 years even with ObamaCare in place.  In contrast, Ryan reduces that spending by 1.3% of GDP, a full percentage point more than Obama, while limiting tax increases to 0.2% of GDP in the same period — and using the less-rosy economic predictions from the CBO to boot.

If anything encapsulates the relative seriousness in which the authors of these plans have approached the issue, it’s this chart.

Update: I originally had screwed up the terms, thinking it represented trillions of dollars rather than percentage of GDP.  My apologies for the error; I’ve corrected it in the text above.

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Obama 2012 Platform:

Spend
Tax
Federalize
Unionize

To make it easier to remember, they’re using the catchy slogan of

STFU America!

malclave on April 15, 2011 at 3:39 PM

$1.9 trillion of those deficit “savings” come in enhanced revenue — ie, taxes.

The entire wealth of this country’s millionaires and billionaires doesn’t come out to that much. Where the hell is he gonna get this money if people making under 200 grand a year are untouchable?

Doughboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:41 PM

$1.9 trillion of those deficit “savings” come in enhanced revenue — ie, taxes.

The entire wealth of this country’s millionaires and billionaires doesn’t come out to that much. Where the hell is he gonna get this money if people making under 200 grand a year are untouchable?

Doughboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:41 PM

Its over a ten year period so thats $190 billion per year.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM

But why is Ryan’s plan shown saving 0.0 percent from Social Security???

I thought he was singlehandedly going to uncapitate my granny.

Abby Adams on April 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

We don’t need tax increases if we cut spending!1!!!!11!!!!

Akzed on April 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Obama is deadly serious. He, and all the other cretinous jackasses and monsters in Washington, want all of our goddamned money. ALL OF IT.

F- em.

Buck Farack.

Aquateen Hungerforce on April 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Don’t forget Obowma’s plan to continue investing…

Seven Percent Solution on April 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Does this even account for the higher spending on “investments” (energy, education, etc.) Obama said would be part of his plan?

tommyboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:50 PM

Where’s the “People’s Budget Plan” released yesterday by the communists in Washigton?

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Its over a ten year period so thats $190 billion per year.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 3:44 PM

I understand that, but they’ve also gone on record about 10,000 times saying that a repeal of the Bush tax cuts on people making 200 grand or more will net an additional $70 billion a year(assuming all other factors remain unchanged which is unlikely).

Yet Obama’s plan calls for $190 billion a year in taxes. That’s nearly 3 times what the top income bracket will get him. So unless he’s planning on really soaking the rich, he’ll have to raise taxes on people making far less than 200 grand.

Doughboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM

If you want to see your government in work, go on MM site to see her lead story on food stamps. bho, team, and the dc bunch want as many people as possible on the gov. dole sucking taxpayers dry! Now who said this would happen? Glenn and the piven, soros gang.
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letget on April 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM

From the left

But the sanctimony is still hard to swallow. This president doesn’t pander any more egregiously than his predecessors. But he spends more time trying to pretend that his pandering is really tough-minded, post-partisan truthtelling. And that two-step grows more grating with every passing day.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2011 at 3:53 PM

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. – MarxObama

rgranger on April 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. – MarxObama

rgranger on April 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM

From each according to us, to each…according to us. – Democrats

catmman on April 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM

So unless he’s planning on really soaking the rich, he’ll have to raise taxes on people making far less than 200 grand.

Doughboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:52 PM

My guess would be both. They will push a fantasy budget that makes no sense and then proceed to do what they intended from the beginning.

These budgets aren’t real in any sense, even the Ryan, or Simpson-Bowles budget. They are public relations attempts that will at best be used as a pattern to hammer out a compromise. At worst they will be totally ignored.

sharrukin on April 15, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Where’s the “People’s Budget Plan” released yesterday by the communists in Washigton?

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Good question. In all fairness it should be considered and analyzed with the rest.

Then maybe many “casual” Lib voters might understand the Freak Show that is the Progressive Caucus. I mean, just look at the members.

visions on April 15, 2011 at 3:59 PM

…$1.9 trillion of those deficit “savings” come in enhanced revenue — ie, taxes.

Tsk! Tsk! Spending reductions in the tax code!

cartooner on April 15, 2011 at 4:02 PM

I wonder what economic growth rate they used in their analysis.

According to Jay Cost (from the headlines):

For instance, take the president’s FY 2012 budget. CBO’s analysis of it indicates that it will add about 8.8 trillion in inflation-adjusted dollars to the deficit by 2021. That’s a lot. But it could be a lot more. CBO projects that real economic growth over the next decade will average 2.9 percent per year. If, however, real growth over the next decade mimics what we saw in the last 10 years (1.7 percent on average), my back-of-the-envelope calculation suggests we’d be talking about at least an $11.3 trillion inflation-adjusted deficit. That’s an additional $2.5 trillion just over an assumption about the economy

UltimateBob on April 15, 2011 at 4:03 PM

Ed, the 1.9 is not $1.9 trillion dollars. It is 1.9% of ten year GDP and therefore a considerably higher number.

levi from queens on April 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM

But why is Ryan’s plan shown saving 0.0 percent from Social Security???

I thought he was singlehandedly going to uncapitate my granny.

Abby Adams on April 15, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Ryan left SS for another day — all the complaints are about Medicare.

Count to 10 on April 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Doughboy on April 15, 2011 at 3:41 PM

He’s going to raise taxes on the middle class once hes safely reelected. Assuming he’s reelected.

jawkneemusic on April 15, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Hey! That chart taught me! I was wondering the differences between Simpson-Bowels and Ryan.

The healthcare and new tax lines in the plans are a mirror imagine of each other.

Ryan gets 1.3% from healthcare and Simpson gets 1.4% from new taxes.

That is the only major difference.

Yikes. I see a line of attack. You could say that Ryan is raising taxes (of a type) only on those getting medicare. Oh dear I see how Obama got there. That is a weakness. Someone had better counter that.

I didn’t get it when Obama said it… but… it’s there.

Oh dear.

petunia on April 15, 2011 at 4:28 PM

$1.9 trillion of those deficit “savings” come in enhanced revenue — ie, taxes.

The entire wealth of this country’s millionaires and billionaires doesn’t come out to that much. Where the hell is he gonna get this money if people making under 200 grand a year are untouchable?

Actually, if you consider the fact that the top 1% control mos of the nation’s wealth, that’s not quite the case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_in_the_United_States

bayam on April 15, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Other Mandatory + SS == 65% of total expenditures.
All proposals cut 0% of that.

Suckers.

Bread and Circuses…. Hey look Neros’ fiddling….

orbitalair on April 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Ed, the 1.9 is not $1.9 trillion dollars. It is 1.9% of ten year GDP and therefore a considerably higher number.

levi from queens on April 15, 2011 at 4:06 PM

You are correct, sir, and after reading your comment I fixed my post. Thank you.

Ed Morrissey on April 15, 2011 at 4:58 PM

If only a few Dems are okay with Simpson/Bowles there is not a great deal of difference between Ryan and Simpson. Details of course but they came up with the same solutions.

I think we might actually get a bill out this.

The gang of 6 are trying to make a compromise out of Simpson… if similar bills pass in both houses they might get worked out in commitee couldn’t they?

Of course taxes and medicare are big differences… but still I am struck by the similarity.

petunia on April 15, 2011 at 5:52 PM

EVERY one of Barry’s plans is based on rosy projections.

Remember how well things would be once Porkulus was passed?

Remember?

Now tell all those unemployed people that they are a figment of their own imagination.

GarandFan on April 15, 2011 at 6:47 PM

…from the people who sold you subprime dressed as AAA.

lexhamfox on April 15, 2011 at 8:01 PM

It might become very interesting if we started making budget projections on a 5, 10, 15, and 20 year basis so it becomes much easier to “catch” the back-end loading the Democrats put into the Health Care act.

{^_^}

herself on April 16, 2011 at 5:05 AM