France wants new UN authorization for regime change in Libya
posted at 12:15 pm on April 15, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Remember 2003? After the 9/11 attacks, the US decided that it couldn’t wait for rogue states to conduct attacks before taking action to disarm them, especially those with WMDs who had used them in the past, such as Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. After spending twelve years trying to get Hussein to comply with both a cease-fire and a series of 17 UN resolutions, George Bush went to the UN for a specific resolution authorizing military force aimed at dislodging the Hussein regime from Iraq. France, however, balked at the notion of such cowboy diplomacy, and when eastern European nations rallied to Bush’s side, Jacques Chirac informed the EU’s newest members that they had missed an excellent opportunity to keep their mouths shut.
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose:
The French defence minister has suggested a new UN Security Council resolution may be needed for Nato allies to achieve their goals in Libya.
Gerard Longuet was speaking after a joint letter by the US, UK and French leaders said there could be no peace while Col Muammar Gaddafi was in power.
The current UN resolution makes no mention of regime change.
Not only do the French recognize that the current mission objectives do not meet the existing UN mandate, they want the UNSC to consider adopting a new resolution that does, although they put it somewhat passive terms:
Speaking on French radio, Mr Longuet conceded that ousting Col Gaddafi would be “certainly” beyond the scope of the existing UN Security Council resolution 1973 on Libya, and could require a new council vote.
“Beyond resolution 1973, certainly it didn’t mention the future of Gaddafi but I think that three major countries saying the same thing is important to the United Nations and perhaps one day the Security Council will adopt a resolution.”
The Western leaders have made the goal of regime change more explicit, even if they’re still struggling on whether to actually do enough to accomplish it:
The leaders of Britain, France and the United States said a Libyan future including Moamer Kadhafi is “unthinkable”, as the defiant fist-pumping strongman toured the streets of Tripoli. …
On Thursday, differences between world powers over how to deal with the Libyan crisis began to widen when the BRICS group — Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — urged that “the use of force should be avoided.”
Russia’s President Dmitry Medvedev went further, arguing that UN Security Council Resolution 1973 did not authorise military action of the kind being carried out in Libya by attack jets from NATO and some Arab countries.
Longuet brushed aside this widening divide in the international community, arguing that Russia, China and Brazil “will naturally drag their feet.
“But which of the great countries can accept that that a head of state can resolve his problems in training cannon fire on his own population? No great power can accept that,” he argued.
Unlike in Iraq, this would almost certainly be a war for oil, which is still not an illegitimate issue in the conflict. Europe has obviously gone all-in for regime change, or at least as all-in as Europeans will go on any military action. If they end up leaving the Gaddafis in power, they can kiss that flow of Libyan oil good-bye, and watch it go to China or India instead. They get a significant amount of their energy resources from those fields, which is one of the reasons the British government played Let’s Make A Deal with the Pan Am 103 bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi. They can’t afford to see those resources disappear.
The contrasts between this situation and Iraq are striking. Hussein had already conducted a genocidal campaign against the Kurds with chemical weapons, took away water from the Marsh Arabs, and violently suppressed Iraq’s Shi’ite majority. The US and UK spent twelve years trying to get Hussein to voluntarily comply with UN resolutions, and in the end the UN refused to give the US and UK a mandate for intervention — largely due to France.
The similarities? France had deep economic interests in Iraqi oil, which Hussein allowed to flow to them while pocketing a fortune through the Oil-for-Food Programme, and they have deep economic interests in Libyan oil, which Gaddafi would probably burn now rather than sell to the French.
Ironically, the US under Barack Obama would probably prove to be an obstacle to this attempt to get a regime-change mandate at the UN. If Obama backed it, that would put the US on the hook for its eventual success or failure. As we have seen in the past couple of weeks, NATO turns out to be mainly ineffective at conducting serious military operations in the absence of American leadership, and it’s doubtful that the few nations that would participate in a ground offensive against Gaddafi would have the logistical and operational capability to do it anyway. Obama certainly isn’t going to get Congressional approval for participation in a ground war in Libya, and an attempt to conduct one without Congressional approval might mean an impeachment — and would almost certainly kiss any chances of re-election goodbye.
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Sweet. How sweet it is.
Finally, Obama’s chikkinzzz are coming home to roost.
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 8:22 PM
This.
When you have to plead incompetence to defend against charges of malfeasance, you know you might be in trouble.
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 8:36 PM
ear relevant…
driguana on May 19, 2013 at 8:59 PM
Flush this lying tudd down the drain with the rest of the Obamacrap.
kemojr on May 19, 2013 at 9:34 PM
This was Dan Pfeiffer’s week in the barrel, like Susan Rice he was given the White House talking points and sent on a mission. He really needs to get copies of these tapes and watch them and see how foolish and unbelievable he looked and sounded. The White House is losing the little credibility it still had by sending these shills out every week trying to do damage control. Community organizers make poor leaders.
savage24 on May 19, 2013 at 9:42 PM
Pfeiffer’s statement that the law is irrelevant because the IRS conduct was “outrageous” and “inexcusable”, tells us all we need to know about this administration.
However, the follow-up should have been, “On what standard do you judge their conduct to be outrageous and inexcusable since the law is apparently not an appropriate standard?” (At least in Pfeiffer’s mind.)
What this comes down to is this: “if the Administrative deems something “outrageous” and “inexcusable,” then it is declared such. As we have seen in so many other areas, if the Administrative deems something to not be “outrageous” and “inexcusable,” then it is declared such.
In their mind, the law is – in fact – irrelevant. That’s what makes this situation so dangerous.
It’s not socialism. It’s worse.
EdmundBurke247 on May 19, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Irrelevant = “What Difference Does It Make?”
jaydee_007 on May 19, 2013 at 10:41 PM
A fitting capstone to Ed’s story about loss-prevention (aka employee theft) and management’s “permission structure” in this post.
(Not to mention the jaw-dropping statements of Eleanor Clift in this one.)
AesopFan on May 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM
I enjoy popcorn and hope it is a long week.
Drill and Fill on May 20, 2013 at 12:41 AM
Hey give Barky a break. He had to get his sorry ass out to Vegas.
tbear44 on May 20, 2013 at 4:49 AM
Of course they sent Pfeiffer out to do the Sunday shows. He was the most senior expendable staff member they had . . .
BigAlSouth on May 20, 2013 at 5:39 AM
Pfeiffer… The guy with the red shirt in the landing party…
Boudica on May 20, 2013 at 5:53 AM
Perfect!
lea on May 20, 2013 at 7:11 AM
Does anybody else remember the campaign in 2008 when Obama defended his lack of administrative experience by saying he was just so smart and tuned in that his instincts were better than experience. Someone needs to dredge up these sound bites and play then with the current line about the government being too large to control and that the White House only knows what it reads in the newspaper.
bartbeast on May 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM
If where the president was during the Benghazi crisis is “irrelevant”, then he wasn’t where one would expect the Commander-in-Chief to be. So, where was he? Was he watching a movie in the residence? Was he bowling? Or was he having a bi-curious outing with his good buddy Reggie Love? If Obama was AWOL, as I suspect he was, it is he who is irrelevant. This entire stinkin’ criminal Obama Regime must go and now!
SpiderMike on May 20, 2013 at 9:31 AM
If this continues all week, it will be ‘O’ himself doing the rounds on the Sunday talk shows – except for Fox, of course. (‘O’ can do everything better than everyone else as he has been known to say.)
He then gets the extra benefit that no one will challenge him like they have begun to do with his minions.
Carnac on May 20, 2013 at 11:00 AM
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