Obama: Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling was “political”

posted at 5:06 pm on April 14, 2011 by Allahpundit

At last, after letting not one but two White House press secretaries squirm during questioning about his debt ceiling flip-flop, The One finally speaks up. The crux of his defense: As president, you have to take these things seriously, but as a senator … not so much. And to think, some people during the ’08 campaign accused him of being inexperienced. Then again, at least Obama had that as an excuse for his vote. What’s the excuse for Harry Reid, who’d been in the Senate for 20 years when he voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006 and who finally admitted just this morning that he’s “kinda embarrassed” that he did so?

The important part comes at the very end here, where Stephanopoulos alludes to the possibility that Senate Republicans will vote for cloture on the debt ceiling bill, thereby eliminating a filibuster, before voting against the final bill unanimously. That way the debt ceiling will still be raised but the Democrats will, in theory, completely own it by passing it with a simple party-line majority. McConnell’s thinking there, I guess, is that Boehner will have already extracted concessions from the White House and Reid in order to get the bill through the House, so there’s no point in maintaining the leverage of a filibuster in the Senate. But that’ll greatly annoy DeMint, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and other tea-party senators (DeMint told Laura Ingraham this morning that he’s fully prepared to die on this hill) and it’ll make any Republicans who vote for cloture instant targets of the base. Meanwhile, across the aisle, vulnerable Democrats like Ben Nelson will be under tremendous pressure to protect themselves ahead of next year’s elections by voting no, which means even a simple majority might be hard to come by. No wonder Reid might require a 60-vote threshold for passage in order to force the GOP to take some responsibility for the outcome. It’s insane to make an already hopelessly difficult vote even more difficult by raising the bar for passage, and of course it’d be a betrayal of Reid’s own comments today about how important it is not to play political games with the debt ceiling. But it won’t surprise me if he does it. What a month May is going to be.


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blatantblue on April 14, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Tip (video)

Bill Clinton Remembers When Times Square Was “Romantic” & Had Prostitutes

Oh for the good old days when the smell of a fresh steak and a nasty skanky ho could be enjoyed in the same setting!

Nearly Nobody on April 14, 2011 at 5:09 PM

I see. So it benefited him politically at the time to oppose it, but now that he’s President, he’s had to change his tune because he’s actually forced to make tough decisions. Doesn’t that sum up his flip-flops on about 100 other things?

Doughboy on April 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM

A-Hole in Chief!

Captain Betty on April 14, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Of course Reid will insist on a cloture vote. This will come down just like the TARP vote did, they will make Republicans vote for it and then shove it in their faces. Whatever Reid says now, he is lying just like he always does.

rockmom on April 14, 2011 at 5:11 PM

when will he admit his much vaunted anti-Iraq war speech was the same thing?

rob verdi on April 14, 2011 at 5:11 PM

So, what’s your read on this, then, AP?

Should they hold out for a BBA with a spending cap, and ostensibly lose some political cred, or should they roll over and pass it with something less, and hold out for the Ryan budget?

Because I can tell you right now, they’ll be lucky to get fifteen percent of the Ryan budget signed into law.

KingGold on April 14, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Well no kidding…….so was/is everything else.

RealMc on April 14, 2011 at 5:13 PM

yeah, that makes sense. give up the fillibuster. Sure the dems would do that if the shoes were reversed.

joeindc44 on April 14, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Obammunism doesn’t look so good when you have to look at it,

tarpon on April 14, 2011 at 5:17 PM

What a month May is going to be.

Yay, blog traffic! See you there, AP.

Vyce on April 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

So, did he (or did he not) apologize to GW Bush officially and finally?

Sir Napsalot on April 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

So,its Campaign Rhetric ReVisionist History
ReImagery by Hopey/Changey himself!!

Nice,Free,Campaign Election Infomercial!!

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

All decisions for this guy are political–the lowest form of human life.
 
Democrats are disgusting!

ClanDerson on April 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Looking kind of gray, old man, job not as carefree as you hoped and believed?

So the ceiling gets raised again for political reasons with some vague promise of “Don’t worry, we will lower it at some point in the future.” Meanwhile the new debt ceiling is reached in about a month and the game starts over. Joy.

Bishop on April 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

And to think, some people during the ’08 campaign accused him of being inexperienced. Then again, at least Obama had that as an excuse for his vote.

Yes, He couldn’t vote “Present”

Chip on April 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM

KingGold on April 14, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Optimism!

jdkchem on April 14, 2011 at 5:21 PM

We are always hearing about how “bad” things will get if we don’t do pass TARP or raise the debt ceiling or keep the government going. To be honest, I am starting to wonder if it would really be worthwhile to find out how far the government can go in a shutdown or with a restricted debt ceiling.

I don’t know…

RedSoxNation on April 14, 2011 at 5:23 PM

I agree with Nancy: “It shouldn’t matter who gets elected”

But for a different reason and outcome. The federal government has insinuated itself into so much of the Body American that it matters significantly what they do, and thus we should be interested.

I’d much rather the Federal Government tend to its knitting and leave the rest of us alone. THAT way it doesn’t matter so much, because they DON’T OWN SO MUCH OF OUR LIVES.

But here we are.

JeffWeimer on April 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

“The One finally speaks up. The crux of his defense: As president, you have to take these things seriously, but as a senator … not so much.”

Attach Obamacare repeal to it and see how serious he takes the need to pass a bill increasing the debt limit.

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

WTF is what I have to say.
Well at least he’s not ashamed of his posturing anymore.

Badger40 on April 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

I am starting to wonder if it would really be worthwhile to find out how far the government can go in a shutdown or with a restricted debt ceiling.

I don’t know…

RedSoxNation on April 14, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Let’s do it. I like playing chicken.
Bcs at this point, I’ve got nothing to lose, the govt has effed my life up so bad anyway.

Badger40 on April 14, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Meanwhile the new debt ceiling is reached in about a month and the game starts over. Joy.

Bishop on April 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Bishop:It’ll be,a Kubucki Stripper Pole Dance, again!:)
(snark).

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Obama: Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling was “political”cynical

I don’t care, Obama is awesome.

/mindless cartoon supporter off

Lily on April 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM

In a few years we will be hearing the backstory on what he did while POTUS…

d1carter on April 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Shell games and card tricks done dirt cheap.

NickDeringer on April 14, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Here’s a question I haven’t seen answered or even talked about. What is the going number for the debt limit increase that will be coming up for a vote? Is the GOP planning for a number which will require another vote on October 1 of this year?

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Well,he is a Progressive,and that means,no matter
what,turn a turd into a rose,switch the negative
to a positive,lie when ya gotta,screw the voters,
your on a mission,that the bitter/clingers,will
never grasp,and besides,he should be thanked,and
voters should be thankful that Obama is in charge!

Ugh!!

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

In a few years we will be hearing the backstory on what he did while POTUS…

d1carter on April 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM

d1carter:Very well put,the “ah ha’s”,the,”I thought so’s”,

and,”You have got to be kidding”!!:)

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Obama: Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling was “political”

Now he / they have the bar to measure the Right’s NO vote with.
Nothing to do with fiscal responsibility, merely political.
I see what he’s done here.
Move along.

pambi on April 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Optimism!

jdkchem on April 14, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Realism.

I’m just taking a wild swing here, but I highly doubt that funding for Planned Parenthood is in the Ryan budget. That’ll have to be added back. As, of course, will all the precious non-structural changes like lavish spending on food stamps, mortgage relief programs, and “community outreach.”

The Senate has all the gatekeepers here, and Obama has a veto pen. My guess is that Ryan will disavow whatever version eventually gets signed into law.

KingGold on April 14, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Speaking of that 2006 Vote!
================================

Meanwhile…………………………

Senators Boxer and Feinstein Break Out The Flip Flps
April 13th, 2011
******************
*******************
*******************

As Spring has finally arrived, Californians are cleaning out their garages, planting flowers and getting ready for some fun in the sun. But is it time to break out the flip flops yet? For Senators Boxer and Feinstein it may be.

Congress is gearing up to debate raising the debt ceiling in the coming weeks as the current ceiling of $14.3 trillion will be surpassed by mid-May. Both California senators have not officially announced where they stand on this issue yet, but if they follow the president’s lead they will most likely vote for it.

Boxer has already criticized the House GOP by saying, “I am so tired of the hypocrisy,” due to their opposition to raising the debt ceiling.

This should come to no surprise to any one.

But wait a minute…

Back in 2006 when Congress voted to raise the debt ceiling to $8.9 trillion, Boxer and Feinstein voted AGAINST it.

Feinstein in 2006 ripped the Bush administration by saying, “[The] Administration has chosen to continue down an unsustainable economic path…our nation is going in the wrong direction. The signals grow more evident each day. Deficits are at record levels. The debt is reaching astronomic heights.”

So is it time for the California senators to break out their flip flops? We will see how they eventually vote but I would start dusting them off.
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http://redcounty.com/content/senators-boxer-and-feinstein-break-out-flip-flops

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Reid ‘play games’? Nah! Impossible! He wouldn’t do an underhanded, scummy thing like that. Would he?

As for the Empty Suit in the White House. No changes there.

GarandFan on April 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

2012 cannot get here soon enough…

OmahaConservative on April 14, 2011 at 5:36 PM

IDK abt you all, but everytime I hear him speak, I feel extremely ill.

Badger40 on April 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM

More evolving. Nuance. All that jazz.

RachDubya on April 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Here’s a question I haven’t seen answered or even talked about. What is the going number for the debt limit increase that will be coming up for a vote? Is the GOP planning for a number which will require another vote on October 1 of this year?

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Dusty:Going by,the above linky I posted above,they have
this number,btw,its a Conservative site,from Californ
ia!:)
=================

Congress is gearing up to debate raising the debt ceiling in the coming weeks as the current ceiling of $14.3 trillion will be surpassed by mid-May. Both California senators have not officially announced where they stand on this issue yet, but if they follow the president’s lead they will most likely vote for it.

http://redcounty.com/content/senators-boxer-and-feinstein-break-out-flip-flops

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM

In a few years we will be hearing the backstory on what he did while POTUS…

d1carter on April 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM

“Once upon a time I was President of the United States and while in that position I screwed the American people.” End of backstory.

sdd on April 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Well, lets see, what would be the worst possible way to do this. hmmmmm …

OK, I got it, they need to up the limit 2 TRILLION!

Ryan and Obama have virtually identical amounts of spending in 2012! They are both 1.5 TRILLION short. With Boehner and the Democrats pushing thru continueing resolutions right through the NEXT election, it would be most appropriate for Boehner to have a debt ceiling increase just before the next election.

That way EVERYONE can see just how far apart Boehner and the Democrats actually are!

Freddy on April 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM

2012 cannot get here soon enough…

OmahaConservative on April 14, 2011 at 5:36 PM

OmahaConservative:*DING-DING*….Needs Cow Bell!:)

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM

We are always hearing about how “bad” things will get if we don’t do pass TARP or raise the debt ceiling or keep the government going. To be honest, I am starting to wonder if it would really be worthwhile to find out how far the government can go in a shutdown or with a restricted debt ceiling.

I don’t know…

RedSoxNation on April 14, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Did the U.S. fall apart in 1995? Well then you have your answer.

Pattosensei on April 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Are you kinda embarrassed about popping off on that whole Gitmo thing too, Barry?

Cicero43 on April 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Cut up the credit card. Right now. If the pols in DC really want to get serious about deficit reduction, now is the chance. If there is no more money to borrow, they will have to spend what they have.

P.S. The GOP will cave and get nothing in return.

kringeesmom on April 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Obama: Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling was “political”

Obama:

“voting against raising the debt limit was wrong”….

……”saying lobbyist would not work in my White House or influence legislation was wrong”…..

………….”Saying my administration was going to be transparent was wrong”……

………………….”Saying a President must get Congressional approval before launching a military attack was wrong”………

…………………………”Saying the stimulus would provide “shovel ready jobs”….”keep unemployment from going over 8%”….”and create millions of jobs” was wrong”

………”Saying if you like your plan,you can keep your plan was wrong”……

………………”saying I would not raise taxes on the middle class was wrong”…..

……………………..”saying that going to war against oil rich countries that have not attacked us and posed no imminent threat was wrong”….

…………………………….”criticizing the use of military tribunals….rendition….indefinite detention….NSA wiretapping….enhanced interrogation….and state secrets that I now support was wrong”…..

…….”criticizing the Patriot act that I now support was wrong”…….

……………”criticizing the Bush Tax Cuts after I pushed for an extension of them with a filibuster proof Congress was wrong”…….

Obama’s legacy is going to be one big fat expiration date…

Baxter Greene on April 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

This reminds me of one of Groucho Marks statements, ” My life is guided by a strong set of principle’s, and if you don’t like them…..I have others.” Obumbo is one serious joke

rjoco1 on April 14, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Right now the debt ceiling isn’t a ceiling at all, it’s just a suggestion. Because no one will stand up and stay enough is enough.

This is the real battle. This is the one we needed to save all the political capital we could… we have to get some real reform out of this.

I don’t even know what the goal is though, and I feel like I should know by now… communicate the plan please.

petunia on April 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

It is very apparent that if it looks like the GOP are going to win…

… Obowma will declare Martial Law, and the State Run Media will applaud him for it.

Seven Percent Solution on April 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

It’s time for an amendment to the Constitution:

If the Federal Government is running a deficit or cannot pay off its complete debt at any time from money currently on hand then no compensation, either public or private, shall be paid to any member of Congress or to the President and his or her cabinet for work performed on behalf of the United States. Any violation of this shall be considered treason on behalf of the payor and payee.

This immediately gives the Congress Critters a huge incentive to balance the budget and start paying off the debt. The President too. Also, any attempt by lobbyists to game the system would be curtailed, as treason is a serious crime (and Congress wouldn’t dare to lower the penalties for that).

This would have to be passed outside of Congress, of course, but imagine if this amendment was in place….

And any attempt to bribe

Vanceone on April 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Hmm. Rest of my post:
Any attempt to bribe lawmakers or the President would be eagerly ferreted out by the opposing party.

Plus, this cuts down on time spent in Washington: If politicians actually had to earn their own way, then they’d have less time for mischief.

Vanceone on April 14, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Just say no until the Balanced Budget Amendment is put out to the states for ratification. Why is is that so coercive, disruptive and extreme?

Mark30339 on April 14, 2011 at 5:54 PM

fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking…but enough about Obama.

Christien on April 14, 2011 at 5:54 PM

[canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM]

Thanks, canopfor, but it doesn’t say what increase is planned.

I think the GOP should propose an amount that only gets them to the new fiscal year, which is Oct 1. A back of the envelope calc (135 days left/365 days times $1.7T deficit) would put an increase in the vicinity of $628B.

I might want to question the CBO on it to get a more accurate number, owing to the complexity of the fiscal spending situation that’s apparent, but the idea is to use the debt limit to force Ryan’s proposals into the FY2012 budget.

If the GOP can tie smaller numbers and more debt limit votes with a schedule for passing legislation required to enact Ryan’s policy proposals, that would be even better.

Bottom line is that if the GOP is stymied by the Dems and Obama on cutting spending, there’s no reason to increase the debt limit after Oct 1 ’cause were all doomed, anyway.

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 5:59 PM

No Crr posts? hmmm I wonder why.

CWforFreedom on April 14, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Ol’ Boner is in soooooo far over his head. He’s a lamb among wolves.

I expect him to make a quick concession, and a deal to wash and wax the presidential limo personally.

Then we’ll get the spin on how it will save us BILLIONS over 10 years.

We badly need new leadership – this guy’s not going to be any help.

Tim_CA on April 14, 2011 at 6:07 PM

This guy is all over the place. I’m surprised he knows where his tie is in the morning or how to tie his shoes.

What as fracking buffoon.

jawkneemusic on April 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM

LMAO.

wrong thread…I’ll b!tch about this one later.

Tim_CA on April 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Vanceone on April 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Vance, you would also have to confiscate all of their holdings as well as stop their pay.

Big John on April 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Baxter Greene on April 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

You da man !!
(I assume. ;-) )

pambi on April 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM

You da man !!
(I assume. ;-) )

pambi on April 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Heh!!!

…or at least my wife still tells me that.

Baxter Greene on April 14, 2011 at 6:22 PM

Being on the Left means you only take ‘positions’… and its like the Kama Sutra, they can always find a pleasing one.

Don’t ever expect them to vote on morals or ethics: they don’t have any, since if they did they wouldn’t keep on changing positions.

ajacksonian on April 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM

Next well find out he wasn’t born in Hawaii after he leaves office

cmsinaz on April 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM

The only thing he does that is not political is vacation.

Is he on another one yet?

profitsbeard on April 14, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling entire present-cy…uh presidency was “political”

NoFanofLibs on April 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Just polishing the brass on the Titanic, guys.

I hope you have your life preserver secured.

Midas on April 14, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Obama’s legacy is going to be one big fat expiration date…

Baxter Greene on April 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Baxter Greene:I salute you,on your,’fact ducks all in a nice
row’!:)

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 7:14 PM

fantasy, time-travel, random compilations of mythical stories, bizarre plots, absurd techniques, even propagating feudal superstitions, fatalism and reincarnation, ambiguous moral lessons, and a lack of positive thinking…but enough about Obama.

Christien on April 14, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Christien:Exactly!:)

canopfor on April 14, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Actually, this is one of the few things I’m not upset with the President about.

Yes, he’s a hypocrite. But a look at history shows that the minority party always tends to huff and puff and vote against raising the debt ceiling. Doesn’t cost ‘em anything as they know it’s going to pass without their help, and makes them look like they care about being fiscally responsible.

Had GWB been in the Senate and in the minority before becoming President, he likely would’ve voted against it too.

I wrote about this the other day here.

Chris of Rights on April 14, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Typical, hypocritical, no good creep.

afotia on April 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM

Oh yeah, my 2006 Senate vote against raising the debt ceiling was “political”.

Just what the whole world needs right now -an honest liar.

MaiDee on April 14, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Again, he doesn’t give a damn even about his own party! He’s out of town and leaving the mess for the Democrats in the Senate.

When will they revolt? The primary?

PattyJ on April 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM