Obama not getting rave reviews from center or Left after speech, either

posted at 12:55 pm on April 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Let’s admit that we didn’t expect Barack Obama’s speech to produce a plan that would please conservatives, inasmuch as we have seen this President’s predilection for higher spending and more regulation for the last two-plus years.  Some of us may not have expected there to be no plan, or that Obama would take the opportunity for mindless demagoguery, but I doubt that surprised anyone on the Right all that much, either.  The word “disappointed” wouldn’t apply to conservatives, although “disgusted” certainly might.

Hopes were higher in the center and on the Left.  Two responses in national media outlets suggest that “disappointed” might be too mild a word to describe the reaction to Obama’s speech yesterday.  Clive Crook, a critic of Paul Ryan’s plan, nevertheless pronounced Obama’s effort “pitiful” and “a waste of breath” at the Atlantic:

My instant unguarded reaction, in fact, was to find it not just weak but pitiful. I honestly wondered why he bothered.

There was no sign of anything worth calling a plan to curb borrowing faster than in the budget. He offered no more than a list of headings under which $4 trillion of deficit reduction (including the $2 trillion already in his budget) might be found–domestic non-security spending, defense, health costs, and tax reform. Fine, sure. But what he said was devoid of detail. He spent more of his time stressing what he would not agree to than describing clear proposals of his own.

His rebuttal of the Ryan plan was all very well–I agree it’s no good–but the administration still lacks a rival plan. That, surely, is what this speech had to provide, or at least point to, if it was going to be worth giving in the first place. His criticisms of Ryan and the Republicans need no restating. And did the country need another defense of public investment in clean energy and the American social contract? It wanted to be told how fiscal policy is going to be mended: if not by the Ryan plan, with its many grave defects, then how?

Some on the Left cheered Obama’s defense of the welfare state as a robust apologia for the Left.  That, however, isn’t the issue on the minds of the electorate.  They wanted to know how the Left plans to pay for the welfare state they’re trying to defend, and the White House claimed that the speech would address deficit reduction in a meaningful manner.  Instead, as Crook seems to recognize, that promise turned into a bait-and-switch for very tired class-warfare rhetoric that failed to even address the question at hand, let alone answer it.

At CNN, Laurence Kotlikoff, an economist who backed Obama in 2008, expresses similar amazement at the “kick the can” speech Obama gave:

In his speech on our nation’s long-term budget crisis Wednesday, President Barack Obama identified the problem, but he failed to provide concrete solutions.

Indeed, when it came to describing how he would fix federal health care spending, Obama stayed pretty close to his budget document in which he said that Medicare and Medicaid costs would come down because they’d come down and, if they didn’t, a panel of experts would tell Congress to lower them.

Give us a break. This is simply a continuation of kick-the-can down the road, which leaves ever larger government bills for our kids to pay.

While Kotlikoff doesn’t like Ryan’s plan, he notes that at least it’s specific — and that it’s actually progressive:

Ryan was brave enough to say exactly what he thinks needs to be done with these programs.

If you read his Medicare plan carefully, you’ll see that it’s highly progressive because the size of each Medicare participant’s voucher is based on his/her pre-existing health conditions, and poor participants have worse health status, on average, than rich participants.

Ryan’s plan also puts the government on a fixed health care spending budget when it comes to these two programs, each of which is fully capable, on its own, of bankrupting the country.

Kotlikoff explains his own proposal for a “Purple Plan” health-care system, which looks a lot like Ryan’s plan, relying on vouchers and private insurance.  But before he does, the one-time Obama supporter says that Obama’s oratory still makes his “jaw drop,” but that “eloquence is no substitute for substance.”  Kicking the can down the road and demonizing opponents may work fine for a campaign, but it’s not leadership.

This speech looks more and more like a gigantic miscalculation.  Instead of putting Obama on par or ahead of Ryan, it demonstrated that the emperor has no substantive clothes.  It’s an administration that has run out of ideas, and so instead has to rely on name-calling and petulance while hiding behind generalities so ambiguous that they’re no longer fooling the President’s supporters.


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The thrill is gone… and his a** is showing.
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RalphyBoy on April 14, 2011 at 12:57 PM

From the Headlines:

The deficit speech: Left pretty excited to discover that Obama’s a liberal

So which is it? Are they excited or bot excited about the speech?

angryed on April 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM

I have a plan speech!

VegasRick on April 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM

An unserious president whose quotient of due owed in “with all due respect” now matches his nick: Zero.

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM

It’s an administration liberalism that has run out of ideas

WashJeff on April 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

It’s an administration that has run out of ideas, and so instead has to rely on name-calling and petulance while hiding behind generalities so ambiguous that they’re no longer fooling the President’s supporters.

When did they have any ideas?

NoFanofLibs on April 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

They sure set a low bar for eloquence, don’t they? My jaw dropped too, but not due to his oratory skills. It dropped when I realized that instead of joining the debate, he was trying to cut it off. Stunningly shameless.

Dee2008 on April 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Ya have to pass B-Rocks plan to find out what’s in it

roflmao

donabernathy on April 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Juan Williams was gushing about it, Doug Schoen(Dem pollster) didn’t have anything good to say about it..

reshas1 on April 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM

So glad to see Ryan hitting Obama with a baseball bat today!

ctmom on April 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM

It’s an administration that has run out of ideas failed, and so instead has to rely on name-calling and petulance while hiding behind generalities so ambiguous that they’re no longer fooling the President’s supporters

tinkerthinker on April 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Maybe Paul Ryan and other republicans should consider bringing Snickers Bars the next time they meet with Obama. That would send a nice message (from the Snickers commercial where they give someone bitching a snickers bar because they are being a diva).

BruthaMan on April 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM

Maybe the worst policy speech in modern history.

Not that it had anything to do with policy, but that’s what it was supposed to be.

BadgerHawk on April 14, 2011 at 1:03 PM

An unserious president whose quotient of due owed in “with all due respect” now matches his nick: Zero.

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM

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Or… “with all due disrespect”… which is all Barry has earned so far as I’m concerned.
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RalphyBoy on April 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

It really doesn’t matter. Look at the presidential tracking poll.

Even if people (previous Obama supporters) realized they’ve been had, they are too deep into their game to turn back now.

The only thing for them is to spend all their energy not creating but to destroy. To pull down the productive half (slightly less than half) to their own level.

Not unlike the moooooooslems in ME.

Sir Napsalot on April 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

Hey! Where are the announced candidates on this? I can’t remember their names. They need to say something to remind me who they are again.

Mirimichi on April 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

But before he does, the one-time Obama supporter says that Obama’s oratory still makes his “jaw drop,” but that “eloquence is no substitute for substance.”

Obama’s speech patters sound like a bad impersonation of Jimmy Stewart.

zmdavid on April 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

What would the whole country be thinking if Barry had given that speech in prime time, instead of hiding behind the soaps?

Knucklehead on April 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM

bait-and-switch for very tired class-warfare rhetoric that failed to even address the question at hand, let alone answer it.

Class warfare rhetoric doesn’t work in good times. But in bad times, it does.

Take a middle class worker making $75K a year. Tell that worker you want to raise taxes on someone making $150K a year, the worker will probably say no. That’s because the worker figures at some point in time in the future he could also be making at $150K and doesn’t want higher taxes then.
And the difference in lifestyle between $75K and $150K is close enough that the worker doesn’t see someone making $150K as “rich”. Better off, but not “rich”.

Take that same worker today who has been unemployed for 2 years and whose benefits and savings are about to run out. His income went from $75K to $20K on UI. Ask that person if higher taxes on someone making $150K is a good idea and odds are the answer will be yes. Especially if it is framed as an option between higher taxes on the rich and more govt help for the unemployed vs. lower taxes and no help for the unemployed. The difference between living on $20K a year vs. $150K a year is huge and $150K to someone earning $20K does indeed appear to be “rich”.

angryed on April 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM

We know Obama is an empty suit. But will his duck and cover work politically? His Rasmussen approval rating is back to 49% today.

RedSoxNation on April 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM

he said that Medicare and Medicaid costs would come down because they’d come down and, if they didn’t, a panel of experts would tell Congress to lower them.

a panel telling Congress what to do? Dear Liar really doesn’t understand representative democracy does he?

rbj on April 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM

“..My instant unguarded reaction, in fact, was to find it not just weak but pitiful. I honestly wondered why he bothered.”

..phoning it in for the next two years while he hits the campaign trail?

The War Planner on April 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Obama not getting rave reviews from center or Left after speech, either

…and i’ve cherry-picked two articles to prove it! (wtf is laurence kotlikoff?)

seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech

Some on the Left cheered Obama’s defense of the welfare state

oops, i forgot my own headline.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Saying

it demonstrated that the emperor has no substantive clothes

now is small consolation to those of us who were saying it before the election in 2008.

But at least we can say “I told you so.”

ornery_independent on April 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

We know Obama is an empty suit. But will his duck and cover work politically? His Rasmussen approval rating is back to 49% today.

RedSoxNation on April 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM

..moving average of last three days. Wait’ll the real effects of this wadded up piece of used toilet paper hits.

The War Planner on April 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

They wanted to know how the Left plans to pay for the welfare state they’re trying to defend,

Why they’re going to fund it with unicorns that poop out golden turds….

Ltlgeneral64 on April 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Juan Williams was gushing about it

reshas1 on April 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM

I sure wish Fox News would give me six figures to say stupid things a few times a week. Must be nice…
Guess I gotta go work for NPR and get canned first.

Grayson on April 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Obama not getting rave reviews from center or Left after speech, either

he sure is on the lsm right now…

cmsinaz on April 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM

How can ones jaw drop because Obama can give a speech? C’mon. Sure he’s *cough cough* eloquent. But when all that comes out of his mouth are lies, blaming others, and insipid crap….it’s hardly jaw dropping. Pay attention to what he says, not how he says it, and that’s all one needs to know.

capejasmine on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Gallup approval

Apr 4-6 45%
Apr 5-7 45%
Apr 6-8 44%
Apr 7-9 45%
Apr 8-10 45%
Apr 9-11 46%
Apr 10-12 44%
Apr 11-13 42%

Blip or start of something?

Last time it hit 42% was right after the Nov. election. The lowest ever is 41% which was right before the election in 2010 and August 2010.

angryed on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Juan Williams was gushing about it, Doug Schoen(Dem pollster) didn’t have anything good to say about it..

reshas1 on April 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Juan seems to be devolving before our very eyes…can we send him back to NPR?

ornery_independent on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

the lsm is only having pro obama folks right now…

ALL HAIL DEAR LEADER

he wants to save medicare from those evil GOP folk

cmsinaz on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

“Thanks” for your noncontribution to the thread, as usual.

fossten on April 14, 2011 at 1:13 PM

It’s an administration that has run out of ideas

That comment would suggest that they had ideas of substance in the first place…

Ltlgeneral64 on April 14, 2011 at 1:13 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

The wailing by Obama during the speech was staggering.

fossten on April 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM

I think Juan got a 7 figure contract.

karenhasfreedom on April 14, 2011 at 1:14 PM

Now wait a minute, what happened to those crisp creases…it was a mirage…?!

d1carter on April 14, 2011 at 1:15 PM

All of the pundits have described the speech as a sales pitch to his liberal base. But what kind of moron would use that national forum to po the rest of the electorate in an election cycle? Dems run left in primaries and center in campaigns– BO doesn’t have a primary cycle. He’s such an ideological empty suit that he can’t even fake it.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining. In fact, I hope we see more of the same from him, I want everyone to see who he truly is. I’m just amazed that, in all of his arrogance, he’s so incredibly stupid.

obladioblada on April 14, 2011 at 1:15 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

I wish I could say the same for your posts.

kingsjester on April 14, 2011 at 1:15 PM

647 more days
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God help us make it just…..

647 more days.

PappyD61 on April 14, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Grayson on April 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Did you see Juan scold Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday this past Sunday? I was mortified. Juan made a comment about rich people being corrupt, or something to that effect. Chris came back with…so it’s bad that people are rich? Juan berated Chris for that, and saying he should be ashamed as host of this show, and should be more impartial.

I just kept thinking to myself…fine talk coming from Juan. Chris along with Hannity, and OReilly were right there with Juan when he was fired. Defending him, and probably had some input into Juan being hired by Fox outright.

So now Juan is one of the rich, making millions, yet chastizes others for being rich, and basically believing that’s a sin? Shame on YOU Juan. Shill if you must, but I’ve lost all respect for you, where I once had at least a smidge after the way you were treated.

capejasmine on April 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I keep thinking that the universities who gave him degrees and the law firm and university officials who hired/reviewed his “work” have to be pretty embarrassed on how he is performing center stage. And that some officials knew this was the likely outcome, and said nothing.

journeyintothewhirlwind on April 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Jaw dropping? You bet your a**… I hear him speak, my jaw drops and then I say: This is one dumb-a** lying son-of-a-B**ch

phreshone on April 14, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Juan Williams was gushing about it

reshas1 on April 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM
I sure wish Fox News would give me six figures to say stupid things a few times a week. Must be nice…
Guess I gotta go work for NPR and get canned first.

Grayson on April 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM

7 figures (Juan gets paid in the MILLIONS)…

A year and a half before the 2012 elections and POTUS is intellectually “out of Schlitz”…

Khun Joe on April 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Again, when it comes to spending and taxation, every voter ought to have skin in the game. If this is plain to even a 6th grader when discussing the impending shutdown last week.

For the same reason that the Founding Fathers stipulated that the franchise be limited to land-owners. It is the taxpayers that are today’s land-owners.

No taxation without representation = no representation without taxation!

AH_C on April 14, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Krugman thought the speech was awesome.

BadgerHawk on April 14, 2011 at 1:19 PM

so to sum up, the GOP is now the party who will save Medicare funding, while Obama and the Dems want to ration care in a panel.

Nice way to win back seniors there Barack! Helluva job Barry!

Paul Ryan’s plan will allow private Medicare coverage like Medicare Advantage, wherein the sicker folks, will get a bigger voucher toeard their coverage and we can pick which plan we want.

Because it is private companies I can also APPEAL any denials to Dept of Labor under ERISA or to State Dept of Insurance etc etc after all private ins co appeals are exhausted and then if I still dont like what they did I can complain to my Congress Critter state and Fed to try and get a mandatory coverage option.

Under Obama/Dem plan, an unelected panel of strangers like the UK NICE panel, will decide what treatment is covered.
There will be NO APPEAL. Congress will have NO VOICE in it so there will be no way to apply pressure from the people.

The Obama/Dem plan will leave NO APPEAL. NO VOICE. They can deny Avastin treatment as FDA just did, this is just the beginning baby.

So choice is clear, if you are a Boomer, you better vote GOP if you dont want to find yourself re-enacting Logan’s Run the Carousel Scene, or Soylent Green.

This Obama/Dem plan is not healthcare, IT’S A COOKBOOK!

If the GOP cant win with this I dunno why they re in politics.

ginaswo on April 14, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Krugman thought the speech was awesome.

BadgerHawk on April 14, 2011 at 1:19 PM

That deranged nutjob would.

Anyway, I’ve seriously been enjoying rubbing lefties’ faces in the Obama policy diaper. They’re running out of ways to rationalize his irrational policies.

MeatHeadinCA on April 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM

(wtf is laurence kotlikoff?)
sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Google is your friend honey.

Laurence J. Kotlikoff is a William Fairfield Warren Professor at Boston University, a Professor of Economics at Boston University, a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, a Fellow of the Econometric Society, a Research Associate of the National Bureau of Economic Research, President of Economic Security Planning, Inc., a company specializing in financial planning software, a columnist for Bloomberg, a columnist for Forbes, and a blogger for The Economist. Professor Kotlikoff received his B.A. in Economics from the University of Pennsylvania in 1973 and his Ph.D. in Economics from Harvard University in 1977.

And according to crr6, any econ professor that went to Harvard must be listened to and never questioned.

angryed on April 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM

This speech looks more and more like a gigantic miscalculation.

People who are in denial are incapable of making calculations. People who are amateurs always miscalculate. Take your pick.

SlaveDog on April 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Obama must be comforted to know he can give a worthless speech and have no plan and his brain dead kneepadders will cheer him anyway.

Chuck Schick on April 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM

His rebuttal of the Ryan plan was all very well–I agree it’s no good–but the administration still lacks a rival plan.

That’s because there is NO rival plan. You can’t raise taxes enough to cover the deficit, so the only choice is to cut spending, especially in entitlements.

That’s something the libs simply will not face up to. So they’re left with trying to game the CBO numbers, make up facts and figures, and what they do most often, demogogue the issue and then change the subject.

PackerBronco on April 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Clearly, he’s a douche.

SouthernGent on April 14, 2011 at 1:25 PM

The people who liked it only liked that he said the welfare state is a valiant goal for our society. That is what they liked. That isn’t a plan by any definition.

So… now what?

Obama has started to campaign and this speech got his base to agree with him wholeheartedly… and they love lip service, they love it.

We have to whittle down Obama’s support.

We have got to stop bickering among ourselves.

The Tea Party is about 75% positive for the country and the other 25% is very negative. Voters do not respond to negativity and constant non-stop griping is a turn off.

Republicans need a success. Something we can rally around the way Obama has the far left rallying around him right now.

But our side is so pessimistic about everything lately… for good reason I know, but there has got to be some sunshine somewhere! This is a good country. Our form of government as flawed as it is… is the best man has ever come up with.

Patriotism is our strength. What can we get patriotic about?

petunia on April 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM

“This speech looks more and more like a gigantic miscalculation.”

Could be. On the other hand, having made significant inroads in his efforts to reduce the country’s economy and foreign affairs to a laughing stock, it’s possible he’s now directing his efforts at doing the same for the office of the Presidency.

If so, I’d rate it much better than a solid B+.

Dusty on April 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Quogmahr! Not. Barry’s got “fail-safe” provisions for 2012: stupid people who vote, $1B, the race card, and the Make Believe Media insisting 24/7 that he is not who he really is.

Christien on April 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM

the one-time Obama supporter says that Obama’s oratory still makes his “jaw drop,”

Vice Precedent BiteMe was certainly on the edge of his seat.

Lanceman on April 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

My local newspaper summarizes the Obama speech with the headline ..

OBAMA SEEKS CUTS IN MEDICARE AND MEDICAID, HIGHER TAXES

… great headline for the day before taxes are due

J_Crater on April 14, 2011 at 1:31 PM

My prediction -

Day 2, the Left will come out in force to say that anybody critizing Obama’s ‘plan’ is too dumb to know how brilliant he is.

They tried that before, and they will do it again and again.

Sir Napsalot on April 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM

angryed on April 14, 2011 at 1:22 PM

See how dependent Sesspool is?! Can’t even do their own research. *sigh*

No wonder he’s a lib. Lazy, and just wallowing in his own self pity, so he can live off of others.

capejasmine on April 14, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Let’s admit that we didn’t expect Barack Obama’s speech to produce a plan that would please conservatives, inasmuch as we have seen this President’s predilection for higher spending and more regulation for the last two-plus years.

Nice piece of understatement, Ed. And Genghis Khan had a predilection for agrarian restoration, asset redistribution and population control.

Cicero43 on April 14, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Sir Napsalot on April 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM

yepper, don’t forget racist as well…
their fallback

cmsinaz on April 14, 2011 at 1:37 PM

How can ones jaw drop because Obama can give a speech? C’mon. Sure he’s *cough cough* eloquent. But when all that comes out of his mouth are lies, blaming others, and insipid crap….it’s hardly jaw dropping. Pay attention to what he says, not how he says it, and that’s all one needs to know.

capejasmine on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Isn’t there a word and cliche about one’s jaw dropping because someone else is glibly making false assertions?

Count to 10 on April 14, 2011 at 1:38 PM

They are giddly over the “great” speech over at the nuthouse that is the Daily Kos.

You can’t make this stuff up, folks! Now the White House is in the business of releasing Trumkas’ press releases. Really!

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/13/trumka-statement-presidents-fiscal-policy-speech

Now it’s a little bit clearer of who is actually running this country, and it’s not “the one”!

shanimal on April 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM

99.9% of the African Americans will feel the same way.

Juan Williams was gushing about it

All they have to do to gin up the Minority community is start talking about dragging James Byrd types behind trucks in the South and BOOOMM…………WINNING (the black vote).

PappyD61 on April 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM

His speech just reinforced the idea that liberals care more about honoring the unwritten “Social Contract” than the government’s actual written contract, the Constitution.

drewwerd on April 14, 2011 at 1:42 PM

Juan Williams was gushing about it…

reshas1 on April 14, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Juan is just trying to get back his liberal bona fides after saying he felt nervous flying with Muslims.

sdd on April 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Thanks so much for sharing that.

Del Dolemonte on April 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM

Vice Precedent BiteMe was certainly on the edge of his seat.

Lanceman on April 14, 2011 at 1:27 PM

And he has been charged with getting a bipartisan budget agreement in two months!!! When does he leave the country again….

ladyingray on April 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM

It’s an administration that has run out of ideas

The only ideas they ever had were: (1) raise taxes; (2) increase the size and reach of federal government by any means, including borrowing and spending trillions of dollars we can never hope to repay; (3) use increased government power to reward those who support them in doing nos. 1 and 2 (e.g., blacks, hispanics, unions, corporations like GE, etc.).

Oh wait, they did have one other idea: lie through your teeth about what you’re really doing, and shamelessly manipulate language (e.g., say “spending reductions in the tax code” instead of tax hikes; say “kinetic military action” instead of war; say ” undocumented Americans” instead of illegal aliens, etc.) to try and make voters think you’re doing something other than what you’re really doing.

AZCoyote on April 14, 2011 at 1:47 PM

All they have to do to gin up the Minority community is start talking about dragging James Byrd types behind trucks in the South and BOOOMM…………WINNING (the black vote).

PappyD61 on April 14, 2011 at 1:39 PM

They always had it. Why worry about it?

Lanceman on April 14, 2011 at 1:49 PM

Well, at least he still has Krugman

Scrappy on April 14, 2011 at 1:51 PM

First, Justice Alito at the SOTU. Now, Paul Ryan at this thing. I’m beginning to think Obama has some sick, masochistic thrill with rhetorically lying and berating people to their faces in a forum where they cannot respond. Its got to be some morbid buzz that he gets with this—all of these strawman arguments. Its worsening, its not merely his power, but the wielding of his power over those whom he seeks to destroy and dominate. Its like rape–not in a sexual way, but in a power way. To thoroughly dominate someone and completely negate their ability to respond effectively and save themselves. I wonder who taught him that. He must’ve been abused, because this is some weird fantasy, IMO, this lying, chastising and basically calling them a b!tch right in front of them while they are chained by politeness and decorum to their seat.

ted c on April 14, 2011 at 1:51 PM

*seriously, the wailing on the right after yesterday’s speech is pure awesome.

sesquipedalian on April 14, 2011 at 1:12 PM

I know. All those people pointing out how pathetic Obama’s speech was with facts and real math was pretty awesome. Your substanceless posts on the other hand – not so awesome.

Scrappy on April 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM

If lefties ruled the world – excellent article.

Schadenfreude on April 14, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Mr. Shovel-Ready Recoverytastic knows he lost all credibility on matters economic. His only resort now is to demagogue and posture.

StubbleSpark on April 14, 2011 at 2:00 PM

Instead of putting Obama on par or ahead of Ryan, it demonstrated that the emperor has no substantive clothes.

NO, Ed, the fancy clothes have no emperor. They neved did have him. He’s but a narcissistic teenager, who lives large, and fools the fools.

Schadenfreude on April 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM

“eloquence is no substitute for substance.”

Did Barry ever have “substance”?

GarandFan on April 14, 2011 at 2:07 PM

It’s an administration that has run out of ideas, and so instead has to rely on name-calling and petulance while hiding behind generalities so ambiguous that they’re no longer fooling the President’s supporters.

They had no ideas to start with, Ed. They only had George Bush’s ideas—so they demagogued them. As time went, the reality struck them that they needed to come up with something of their own and they’ve utterly failed at every turn. Yet, they resort to the same reactive tactics they used previously–demagoguery and thinly veiled insults to Paul Ryan who was insultingly invited to his one-way dressing down by Mr. Obama. Nothing like putting on a suit to go get reamed out by someone, eh?

ted c on April 14, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Rush blasting “Chuck-U Shumer” over the zero’s budget plan.

AH_C on April 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM

One thing is crystal clear now, Obama is not a leader. He is pure politician. When it comes to creating substantive solutions, he is clearly beyond the boundaries of his skill set and defers to others to do his work. He sticks with what he’s comfortable with, blustering about class warfare, pontificating about socialist utopias…
 
Unfortunately, he doesn’t have anybody else in leadership that can help. The others he would depend on to actually create a plan are Pelosi and Reid, both of which seem to be very much the same as Obama. The democrats have no leaders capable of creating a real plan and so they won’t. According to their ideology, they must fight the other guys, even if the other guys are the only ones with a plan.
 
So, here we sit until things crash. We’ll soon have no options but to take the bitter medicine of reality and hope for the best. Personally, I think it would be better to take the medicine now. Don’t raise the debt ceiling until there are significant cuts, and by significant I mean that the budget gets balanced, really balanced without the financial shenanigans of the past.

ClanDerson on April 14, 2011 at 2:18 PM

How can anyone truly support this guy anymore. If this isnt the most obvious case of an empty suit in politics, there never will be.

Obama is not a thinker, he is not overly intelligent. He has no vision for a better America. He is an ideologue who must rely on attacks on his opponents rather than selling his belief system because it is an utter failure, today, and throughout history.

Like a snake oil salesman, he has gotten by, by charming a few ducats out the public and quickly moving on to the next election, he cant do that any longer and the fraud of what he is selling is finally being exposed.

It will only get worse as more Americans are affected by his destruction of the economy and the country’s spirit.

Im predicting right now. Unless the GOP nominates a complete Dukakis and runs the worst campaign in the modern era, Obama will be defeated in 2012. Incompetence breeds a bigger and bigger mess and Obama is too closed minded and egotistical to admit he needs to change…..well, everything.

Its over. Obama is destined to be a Carter or a Hoover once history is written. I just dont see a set of circumstances that changes this tiger’s stripes.

alecj on April 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM

I still don’t understand teh people who claim to believe that Obama is a great orator. He is average at best. His delivery is alright – not great. And there is no substance.

How can that be “great” in anyone’s book? Even if you are an Obama supporter, how can you honestly claim he is a great speaker? What memorable lines has he had? In 20, 30 or 50 years, what speech will be remembered? None. And, c’mon, but his speeches tend to be overly long and boring. He takes 10 minutes to get 1 minute of information out.

I suppose that people who voted for him have to convince themselves that he is good at something – so they pretend he is this “great” orator that really “lifts people up.” But there is absolutely no proof of that. His speeches are no better than most other politicians, and worse than many.

Monkeytoe on April 14, 2011 at 2:34 PM

Walsh is an Obama-harlot.

Obama acknowledged our American history as “rugged individualists, a self-reliant people with a healthy skepticism of too much government.” But he quickly identified “another thread running throughout our history”

Schadenfreude on April 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM

But before he does, the one-time Obama supporter says that Obama’s oratory still makes his “jaw drop,”

Yeah, that’s what happens to many people when they fall asleep.

Jack Bauer on April 14, 2011 at 3:20 PM

Obama is attempting to rally his base for the start of his reelection campaign and fend off any primary challenge from the left. Nothing more, nothing less. Paul Ryan was right, he is the Campaigner-In-Chief. A lot of lefties will fall for that; the rest of the country, not so much.

rockmom on April 14, 2011 at 3:36 PM

capejasmine on April 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM

We like Juan Williams because though a hardcore liberal he occasionally is honest, much like Powers. His problem is that he is just not that bright.

slickwillie2001 on April 14, 2011 at 3:40 PM

Rush blasting “Chuck-U Shumer” over the zero’s budget plan.

AH_C on April 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM

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Laura Ingraham was rippin’ mad on the radio about Obama saying that it was Medicare and Medicaid that made this country great, and calling tax increases “savings in the tax code”, as if it was the Government’s job to “save” OUR money.

She needs to get on “The View” and get a larger audience, and she would do MUCH better than Mizz Hasselbeck–Laura would hassle back!

Steve Z on April 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM

A quick look at the NYT and the from page of Real Clear Politics makes it clear that most of the drive-by media swooned over the speech.

wbcoleman on April 14, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Come together, right now, over me.

Obama is acting out that John Lennon line. The country, left, right, and center, is coming to a consensus and it is that Obama is a chump and needs to retire.

Mallard T. Drake on April 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM

They’re still touting Obama as an orator worthy of Cicero’s mantle, I see. When they get to the point they’ll admit he’s a bore, we’ll know it’s over.

SukieTawdry on April 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM

Actually, the song that Obama is acting out is more like,

“Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, lookin’ like a fool with the pants on the ground.”

What an amateur-hour P.O.S. he is.

realitycheck on April 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

They’re still touting Obama as an orator worthy of Cicero’s mantle, I see. When they get to the point they’ll admit he’s a bore, we’ll know it’s over.

SukieTawdry on April 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM

That’ll take a hundred years or more. The progs still won’t talk about what an evil S.O.B. President Wilson was. They still won’t admit that FDR’s policies extended the first Great Depression.

slickwillie2001 on April 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Is stupidity a valid reason for impeachment? This idiot is destroying our country!!!

UnEasyRider on April 14, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Obama doesn’t realize his BS no longer flys but it sure is starting to attract them!

chickasaw42 on April 14, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Well, we see the dummy. Who’s the ventriloquist?

chickasaw42 on April 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM

We can now be reasonably certain that ObaMao won’t pull a Clinton and get for more years.

Slowburn on April 14, 2011 at 6:49 PM