Video: The city that outsourced everything

posted at 10:12 am on April 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

With pension bombs and bond defaults, the cities of America are looking at a bleak future, burdened by huge long-term liabilities and declining revenue to fund them. In some cities, the crisis means choosing between cuts to public services or massive tax hikes that will drive off businesses and families. In Sandy Springs, Georgia, they’re trying to decide where to invest their surpluses instead. Reason TV takes a look at how necessity and a desire for independence put Sandy Springs on the map, and then in the black, all while offering a higher level of municipal services at a much lower cost:

While cities across the country are cutting services, raising taxes and contemplating bankruptcy, something extraordinary is happening in a suburban community just north of Atlanta, Georgia.

Since incorporating in 2005, Sandy Springs has improved its services, invested tens of millions of dollars in infrastructure and kept taxes flat. And get this: Sandy Springs has no long-term liabilities.

This is the story of Sandy Springs, Georgia—the city that outsourced everything.

Sandy Springs started off with a few advantages, not the least of which was its tax base and their fresh start, of course.  It’s easier to solve problems before they occur, especially with money in the bank.  The choice to outsource wasn’t much of a choice at all, at least not at first.  But their experience shows why private-sector services work better than public sector services, at least in those jobs where the private sector is an option: competition forces providers to be efficient and effective.  That allows Sandy Springs to have firms competing for their business and avoids the issue of labor management for the city.

And a funny thing happens when a community keeps its own money and manages it well.  They tend to invest in themselves.  While dependent on Fulton County and the public sector, roads fell into disrepair as their taxes went to other communities instead of their own.  Their roads have improved, they have expanded public spaces, and their services are now targeted at their own citizens.

Can existing cities follow this example?  Reason asks the question at the end, but one obstacle is obvious.  Be sure to watch it all.


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fossten on April 13, 2011 at 10:16 AM

That’s anti-American!

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Here on Long Island, our lovely LI Rail Road (affiliated with NYC’s MTA) had a lovely 97 percent disability retirement rate in 2007.

“Disability.”

blatantblue on April 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM

The legislature was totally controlled by the democrats… as soon as the majority became republican…passed with 92% of the vote.

If this isn’t a lesson for the rest of the country, I don’t know what is.

Tommy_G on April 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM

At some point, Sandy Springs, you’ve made enough money.

Ditkaca on April 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM

So far in the last 4 years we’ve had 25 confirmed saves of people who have died, and we brought ‘em back.

Dang, they can even resurrect the deceased in that town.

JetBoy on April 13, 2011 at 10:25 AM

Nothing a few union riots can’t put back in order. How are the public unions supposed to survive without enforced taxation of the people?

You right wing ding-dong-ding-a-ling-a-bing-bong haters never considered that.

Bishop on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city

Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

I lived a few minutes away when I was growing up, but my wife was born and raised in Sandy Springs. Great place.

Trent1289 on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

At some point, Sandy Springs, you’ve made enough money.

Ditkaca on April 13, 2011 at 10:22 AM

Yep. Just wait. As soon as enough corruptocrat socialists see what this town is doing, they will be screaming for them to “share the wealth”. “It’s the neighborly thing to do” (PBHO to Joe the Plumber 2008)

HomeoftheBrave on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Im from SandySprings and Dunwoody. Johns Creek and Milton are quickly following in their footsteps. It would be interesting to see how this works with a lower tax base area

ldbgcoleman on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Wait, you mean private companies can do most of the work that slow, careless government agencies do, and do it faster and less expensively?

Imagine that.

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Wow, a government that isn’t just a jobs program for connected people but actually works for the taxpayers. What a novel idea.

Mord on April 13, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Ps part of the reason this happened was the total deafness and arrogance of Fulton county. Sandy Springs Has also weathered the housing crisis much better than most other areas

ldbgcoleman on April 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM

It’s already started – the usual suspects are already lined up to drag them back down:

Georgia’s black legislative caucus says, several cities created in the last six years including John’s Creek and Sandy Springs violate the federal Voting Rights Act and it has sued the governor to get them dissolved.

The lawsuit says, the towns create segregated government and dilute black voting power.

Long-time civil rights activist Dr. Joseph Lowery from Atlanta is one of the plaintiffs.

negentropy on April 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city
Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

That was racist and uncalled for Mr Moby

Shambhala on April 13, 2011 at 10:35 AM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city
Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Wait….what?

Bishop on April 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM

I live just north of Sandy Springs….we’re also pushing to re-form Milton County so we can get out of Fulton county.

Some peeps aren’t so thrilled:

http://m.ajc.com/news/lawsuit-seeks-dissolution-of-888729.html

atlgal on April 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM

I’ve lived in the Atlanta area for a very long time, and they have always been trying to take away Sandy Springs and other such cities.

Here is a recent example:

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/27357816/detail.html

Alana on April 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM

Here on Long Island, our lovely LI Rail Road (affiliated with NYC’s MTA) had a lovely 97 percent disability retirement rate in 2007.

“Disability.”

blatantblue on April 13, 2011 at 10:18 AM

Any private business with a 97% disability retirement rate would immediately get an OSHA investigation.

rbj on April 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM

negentropy on April 13, 2011 at 10:34 AM

But didn’t Georgia recently sue the federal government over the VRA because the feds told them they couldn’t enforce ID checks, and the feds backed down? Georgia is leading the way.

Bishop on April 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM

My parents live just outside Sandy Springs, and I have to drive through to get to their house. You could always tell when you left Sandy Springs — the roads went from perfectly smooth and paved to falling apart.

Pretty amazing model.

Ferris on April 13, 2011 at 10:41 AM

Wait, you mean private companies can do most of the work that slow, careless government agencies do, and do it faster and less expensively?

Imagine that.

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Wow, if only there was a group of people in America who had been telling us this 20 years ago. Why, the government would have hired them right away and we wouldn’t have these problems now. /sarc and sigh

Pattosensei on April 13, 2011 at 10:42 AM

The lawsuit says, the towns create segregated government and dilute black voting power

So a city government chooses to go about their business (the business of the people) to the benefit of all citizens of the city. Butit must be disolved due to “diluting black voting power”? What does that even mean? Are they saying the blacks in that city can’t vote? Or is it because they did vote but they chose to vote in the best interest of all the citizens….thus leaving the plantation. Can’t have that can we?

Ditkaca on April 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM

P.S. The article says it is about voting rights, but it has also always been about money.

Alana on April 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM

In the immortal words of Private Hudson…

Why don’t you put her in charge ….

lm10001 on April 13, 2011 at 10:44 AM

Holder to file suit in 5..4..3..

Kafir on April 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

Never fear folks. The Georgia Legislative Black Caucus has filed a lawsuit to strip them of their status as a separate city along with some other cities.

There is a sort of which came first argument locally about this story. The moochers claim that Sandy Springs could afford to privatize services because everybody who lives there is rich and the counter argument is that those people got rich because they decided to reduce the amount of government control in their lives and it left them free to pursue the American Dream.

Just A Grunt on April 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

“This Is Not The Sandy Springs I Thought I Knew”

victor82 on April 13, 2011 at 10:47 AM

Demographics.

Mason on April 13, 2011 at 10:47 AM

“If we look at this realistically, there is some white flight going on. The creation of these Sandy Springs-type cities enables white voters to get away from black voters,”

Oh man, so the city decided to outsource everything too, just to continue the racism.

Bishop on April 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM

As someone involved in her town’s budget process (as an elected member of our Representative Town Meeting) I find this very exciting. The only thing it doesn’t address which I really want to know, is how do they fund/administer their schools? Right now where I am, the school budget is 63% of the entire town budget, and by state law we can NOT drop the budget below the previous year’s total. At the same time unless you are a school board member (one of 7), you have absolutely no say in how the schools spend that money. I wonder what we could get for $72M by privatizing the whole thing…?

LibraryGryffon on April 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM

But, what about all of those slacker communities that used to get funds from Sandy Springs? I bet they’re suffering terribly.

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM

If “enforcement” or “officer of the court” is part of the job description, or there is some legal reason, such as a security clearance, the person should be a city employee.

Otherwise, why not outsource? I remember hearing all kinds of conspiracy theories floating about because Texas was talking about outsourcing toll roads to some company. OMG they’re giving Texas money to SPAIN!!!!!11!111ty!

More like, the guys working for the Spanish company would be ineligible to join any PEUs, and if it’s decided not to toll the roads, you can end the contract without rioting garbagemen in the streets of Austin. Can’t have that, can we?

Sekhmet on April 13, 2011 at 10:51 AM

“If we look at this realistically, there is some white flight going on. The creation of these Sandy Springs-type cities enables white voters to get away from black voters,”

Are they fleeing from a skin color? Or are they fleeing from high-tax, low-service, high-crime, low-school areas to places where they can build a better life?

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:52 AM

But their experience shows why private-sector services work better than public sector services, at least in those jobs where the private sector is an option: competition forces providers to be efficient and effective.

That’s exactly what we were screaming at Congress during the healthcare debate.

parteagirl on April 13, 2011 at 10:52 AM

At the same time unless you are a school board member (one of 7), you have absolutely no say in how the schools spend that money. I wonder what we could get for $72M by privatizing the whole thing…?

LibraryGryffon on April 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM

You could get more and better. The average spend per student in private schools is lower than in public schools, but private schools perform better. Some say that’s because they get better students. Chicken or egg?

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:55 AM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city
Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

Eat a brick

strictnein on April 13, 2011 at 10:56 AM

There is a sort of which came first argument locally about this story. The moochers claim that Sandy Springs could afford to privatize services because everybody who lives there is rich and the counter argument is that those people got rich because they decided to reduce the amount of government control in their lives and it left them free to pursue the American Dream.

Just A Grunt on April 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

I’m actually disgusted that people think that white people are so much better at managing that if we let them segregate they will create a paradise and, therefore, blacks must be thrown in the mix to keep the white-man down. I don’t have to be black (or whatever pigment) to be offended that these race-baiters believe that rich == white. This makes it pretty obvious that they think rather lowly of people with darker pigmentation of the skin.

Sounds kinda like the Black Caucus is pretty racist to me…

Pattosensei on April 13, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Never fear folks. The Georgia Legislative Black Caucus has filed a lawsuit to strip them of their status as a separate city along with some other cities.

Just A Grunt on April 13, 2011 at 10:45 AM

On what grounds? This is the essence of liberalism. If you see someone happy and prosperous, take their money and force them into miserable compliance.

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Racists!

Caper29 on April 13, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I am proud to say I lived in Sandy Springs during this incorporation and decision making.

Also pay attention to Fulton County – whos northern residence are wanting to split from the city residents, due to a similiar tax burden/lack of rate of return. The key there… demo breakdown of northern residents is heavily minority, with a high net worth… so there goes identity BS.

Odie1941 on April 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM

I’m actually disgusted that people think that white people are so much better at managing that if we let them segregate they will create a paradise and, therefore, blacks must be thrown in the mix to keep the white-man down. I don’t have to be black (or whatever pigment) to be offended that these race-baiters believe that rich == white. This makes it pretty obvious that they think rather lowly of people with darker pigmentation of the skin.

Sounds kinda like the Black Caucus is pretty racist to me…

Pattosensei on April 13, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Well said. If I was a black parent, I’d much rather move to Sandy Springs than punish it.

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM

The key there… demo breakdown of northern residents is heavily minority, with a high net worth… so there goes identity BS.

Odie1941 on April 13, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Rich minorities? That’s impossible! Everyone knows that minorities are incapable of even feeding and clothing themselves, much less becoming successful. The Democrat Party says as much, all the time. And they’ve never been wrong before!

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 11:00 AM

I’ll bet a lot of communities could pull this off, but first they would have to se**de from larger political entities, counties and states, that would be unwilling to give up “their” tax crop without a fight.

iow, its a worthy goal, but some se****ion will be necessary.

james23 on April 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM

I’m actually disgusted that people think that white people are so much better at managing that if we let them segregate they will create a paradise and, therefore, blacks must be thrown in the mix to keep the white-man down. I don’t have to be black (or whatever pigment) to be offended that these race-baiters believe that rich == white. This makes it pretty obvious that they think rather lowly of people with darker pigmentation of the skin.

Sounds kinda like the Black Caucus is pretty racist to me…

Grievance mongers need racism to keep their ‘job’ or their title of ‘civil rights advocate’. So they create some.

negentropy on April 13, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Rich minorities? That’s impossible! Everyone knows that minorities are incapable of even feeding and clothing themselves, much less becoming successful. The Democrat Party says as much, all the time. And they’ve never been wrong before!

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 11:00 AM

You forgot your /sarc tag. You have to put one because our village idio…errr…”some people” (cough “PR” cough “Crr6″ cough) might think you actually believe this.

Pattosensei on April 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM

LibraryGryffon on April 13, 2011 at 10:49 AM

In Georgia the schools are funded from a combination of the state funds and county property taxes collected. While the county, in this case Fulton, doles out the money for the schools it is based on number of students. There are 2 distinct school districts in Fulton County, the Atlanta city public schools and then the Fulton county schools. The residents of Sandy Springs, and the other recently incorporated cities pay no city taxes to Atlanta anymore and that is who is screaming the most about the loss of revenue. Additionally the residents of Sandy Springs make up shortfalls in the schools through private donations. In GA you are allowed a tax deduction for contributing to private or charter schools also.

The moochers who live in the southern portion of the county really are not having the impact that the black legislatures would have you believe unless they are actually encompassed within the Atlanta city limits.

Complicated I know but look at it this way. Split the county into thirds. The northern third is comprised of newly created cities, the middle is the city of Atlanta itself and the lower third is the unincorporated towns. The southern part also uses up about 90% of the funds the county receives, especially in law enforcement.

Just A Grunt on April 13, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Wouldn’t blacks have MORE representation in Fulton Co. as a result of the majority white portions of the Co. now being independent cities?

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Hmmmm…looks like a good place to retire. :)

Bob's Kid on April 13, 2011 at 11:11 AM

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM

Probably wouldn’t be a change. Seats are determined by population and that ain’t changed. The district boundaries may shift.

Just A Grunt on April 13, 2011 at 11:12 AM

LI Rail Road … had a lovely 97 percent disability retirement rate in 2007.

Every single one of these people should be investigated, on the golf course, at the gym, at their double dipper jobs, and if guilty of fraud, lose all of their pension benefits.

motionview on April 13, 2011 at 11:18 AM

It’s easier to solve problems before they occur, especially with money in the bank.

I wonder which one of our would-be presidential candidates has been saying that?

gryphon202 on April 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Hmmmm…looks like a good place to retire. :)

Bob’s Kid on April 13, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Possibly, but be forewarned: traffic is ridiculous and major portions of the city are just plain butt-ugly.

TedInATL on April 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Wouldn’t blacks have MORE representation in Fulton Co. as a result of the majority white portions of the Co. now being independent cities?

hawksruleva on April 13, 2011 at 11:05 AM

One would certainly think so.

gryphon202 on April 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Unbelievable.
As soon as a city breaks outs and charts their own course to prosperity someone is there to try and attach themselves like a friggin’ tick.
I would like to know how public housing units they have in Sandy Springs.

Can you imagine if all the Republicans got together and took over half the country and separated themselves from the Democrats and their base in every way. It wouldn’t matter which half they took. In ten years it would be a lush garden state while the other half would look like a scene from Escape From L.A..
Even Snake Plissken wouldn’t go there.

NeoKong on April 13, 2011 at 11:31 AM

I live close to Sandy Springs and have watched their entire transformation. Their success became the inspiration for other cities of Fulton County to follow suit like Dunwoody, Milton, John’s Creek and they are all using the same management co. as well.

For years, Fulton County used the north county to finance the south county. You can drive through southern Fulton County and you will find all kinds of public services–=parks, community centers, youth centers, senior centers, public swimming pools –that were missing in the northern part of the county.

The lesson here is that tax money controlled and spent closest to the taxpayers of those funds is better and more efficiently managed. Only then can accountability become a reality in government.

This provides an example for reforming our federal government of which Sandy Springs was a microcosm of its dysfunction. Why should we be sending more of our money to the federal government instead of to our state and local governments? It is bass ackwards right now because that’s the way the politicians like it.

polmom on April 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

Hey! That’s my home town!

/thumps chest

ornery_independent on April 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

fiscal conservatism is awesome!!!!!!

conservador on April 13, 2011 at 11:56 AM

The lesson here is that tax money controlled and spent closest to the taxpayers of those funds is better and more efficiently managed. Only then can accountability become a reality in government.

Yes, if only our Founders had realized this and limited the size and power of the federal government. Oh, wait . . . .

AZCoyote on April 13, 2011 at 12:10 PM

Yep. Just wait. As soon as enough corruptocrat socialists see what this town is doing, they will be screaming for them to “share the wealth”. “It’s the neighborly thing to do” (PBHO to Joe the Plumber 2008)

HomeoftheBrave on April 13, 2011 at 10:31 AM

Yep,this may have been metioned already, but Sandy Springs and these other new cities are already being sued by, um, “minority” democrat pols.

http://sandysprings.patch.com/articles/lawsuit-seeks-to-dissolve-sandy-springs-and-other-north-fulton-cities

ornery_independent on April 13, 2011 at 12:11 PM

Look for Obama is disparage them in his speech today.

Clinging to their wallets and their freedom and fiscal responsibility…”

profitsbeard on April 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM

Headline should read “OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND DOJ INVESTIGATING…PUSHING COMMERCE CLAUSE TO TAKE OVER SANDY SPRINGS…SEIU, CAIR, AND RAINBOW COALITION PROTEST UNFAIR HOUSING PRACTICES…or the AP headline SANDY SPRINGS DOES UNEXPECTEDLY WELL WITHOUT UNIONS and GOVERNMET OVERHEAD”

Problem with Georgia and the rest of the country can be summarized using one of the first multilingual ads I ever saw…Los cucarachas entran pero no pueden salir. Sandy Springs simply got rid of its roach problem.

Now a community which said “enough” is making it work on its own making other communities take notice and ask the obvious question…why am I paying to carry someone else?

Lets get Dild*, I mean Bill, Maher down there too to report on how the stupid, white, racist, right wing southern hicks are actually running their local government successfully and providing quality services.

PatriotPete on April 13, 2011 at 12:18 PM

We can thank General Sherman for all this.

ultracon on April 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I lived in SS when I had an apartment on RR many years ago.

This problem will be solved if the state ever allows Milton County to reform. During the first great depression, Milton went bankrupt and joined old Fulton County to save themselves. That’s why Fulton County is a figure-8 now, two masses connected by a narrow neck. South Fulton is the city of Atlanta and the area around it, North Fulton is the Northern suburbs.

Fulton could never do outsourcing successfully, -too many entrenched special interests and corruption. Those are the kind of folks that gave us the Guam-tipper Hank Johnson, Cynthia McKinney, John Lewis, etc. Ditto all the hard-left democratic inner-cities of America. Unfortunately Detroit is the model.

slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM

I’ve always thought that if ever there was an prime example of a gerrymandered “county”, Fulton County would be it. It’s an elongated shape that runs from way north to way south of Atlanta, but nearly gets pinched in two in the middle.

Map of Georgia highlighting Fulton County

ornery_independent on April 13, 2011 at 12:44 PM

I am not worried.

This kind of dangerous thinking will soon be stamped out.

roy_batty on April 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM

slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2011 at 12:35 PM

Maybe that explains the odd shape, but I’m surprised that it was the northern end of the county that attached itself to the south end, and not the other way around.

ornery_independent on April 13, 2011 at 12:48 PM

Even Snake Plissken wouldn’t go there.

NeoKong on April 13, 2011 at 11:31 AM

I heard he was dead.

(Sorry, It had to be said :P )

Rufuss_Va on April 13, 2011 at 12:56 PM

I have heard about this place… Is it in another galaxy, far far away?

Khun Joe on April 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM

Sandy Springs acted stupidly.

Jaibones on April 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

We can thank General Sherman for all this.

ultracon on April 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM

TRUE STORY: there was a junior officer on my first ship (USS GRIDLEY, CG-21) who told this story in the early ’80s…

He went to Penn State (Navy ROTC), and was riding in a car that was driving back from Florida Spring Break. They got pulled over for doing about 15 or 20 mph over the speed limit on the interstate in Georgia.

The GA State Trooper waddled up to the car and said, “Boy, nobody goes through Georgia that fast.”

The driver calmly replied, “Sherman did.”
He said the trooper went beet red, didn’t say another word, and handed the driver the ticket to sign. And then they drove 3 MPH below the speed limit for the rest of the time in Georgia, figuring the ABP was already put out about those foulmouthed Yankee college kids from Pennsylvania…

Classic…

Khun Joe on April 13, 2011 at 1:28 PM

What a surprise to read that whiny black charlatan Joe Lowery is suing to dissolve Sandy Springs. As always, in addition to his black victimhood he has his facts wrong, as well.

Congratulations to the fine p(and diverse) people of Galt’s Gulch … er, Sandy Springs.

Jaibones on April 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

and the Turtle is their mascot

Just don’t speed through Sandy Springs. And get off my lawn whippersnappers.

(I live near Sandy Springs)

Branch Rickey on April 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

Sandy Springs, GA outsourced everything to CH2M, and will soon regret it. It will find it’s costs soon exceeding what it had paid previously, and also find that not only was CH2M’s bid a lowball, but it will lead to extortion, nepotism, city officials on the take, and former city employees, now working for CH2M and using their inside information to help bleed the taxpayers dry. If you research the corporation, they are being currently sued by many cities and towns who had contracted with them in good faith, based on low, and even no bid contracts.

CH2M will also bring in hordes of H1B workers from India and Latin America, and bribe city officials, to subsidize them for housing, health care and other freebies. They’ll find taxes rising up, before too long. Believe me, this isn’t a private option, it’s a globalist based looting program, nothing more. City residents will also find increased identity theft, as their personal information will be sold on the black market.

Ceolas on April 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM

Jaibones on April 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Lowery is the jackass that insulted President George W. Bush at the funeral of Coretta Scott King funeral, with the president in the audience.

slickwillie2001 on April 13, 2011 at 1:39 PM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city

Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

I don’t know if you’re as evil as your namesake, Son Of Sam, but this comment is evil. Ethiopians are people made by God just like you & me.

itsnotaboutme on April 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM

Ceolas on April 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM

What always seems to happen with extreme amounts of outsourcing, failure. This time, we get to see it on a large scale.

Whomever gets the consultancy to undo the damage, is going to write their own check for fixing it.

sethstorm on April 13, 2011 at 1:52 PM

We can thank General Sherman for all this.

ultracon on April 13, 2011 at 12:25 PM

Is Sandy Springs as nice as Tara?

itsnotaboutme on April 13, 2011 at 1:53 PM

I’ve been to Atlanta on business a couple of times and it’s the one place I’ve visited that I haven’t put on my list of places to go back to, it just didn’t have any redeeming qualities for me.

The CNN Center area was nice, but step across the street into the business district and there are barbed-wire fences surrounding half-demolished buildings and hoards of loiters on every street corner in the middle of the day. Just a filthy place. I know things like that exists in parts of other cities, but not usually in their downtown business district.

We also went out to the suburbs to visit another client, I’m not sure exactly where, but it was beautiful, with blooming magnolia trees everywhere. It was a business district too, but a huge contrast to the actual downtown area.

I’ll be rooting for Sandy Springs and the other cities that want to take back control and make their cities better places to live. That’s how it should be everywhere.

Common Sense on April 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM

Frederick County Maryland is looking into doing the same thing. http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?storyid=116913

Michael K. on April 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

A word to the wise about doing this successfully: Only use citizens that are Northern European-Americans. And pray that the Feds don’t come in and delare it illegal as avoiding reparations for slavery days, which was the old system in Fulton County.

jimw on April 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM

The city of Centennial, in Colorado was formed because they did not want to be annexed by any of the surrounding cities. Unfortunate I live in one of the surrounding cities.

Slowburn on April 13, 2011 at 6:54 PM

The lesson here is that tax money controlled and spent closest to the taxpayers of those funds is better and more efficiently managed. Only then can accountability become a reality in government.

polmom on April 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM

+10

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM

They will end up with ten thousand Ethiopian or whatever mongrel of the day dumped in their city
Sonosam on April 13, 2011 at 10:30 AM

As unpleasant as this comment is, look up Lancaster/Palmdale California. Was a community that grew up around Edwards AFB and the aerospace industry in the desert. Some number of years ago, social engineers in LA or maybe the state decided that if ‘troubled youth’ and family were relocated there from south-central they’d grow up OK. Well, the gang problem up there is pretty bad now – thanks to our wooly-brained progressive element. Whoda thunk?!

Also recall the attempt by the Valley to split from LA city for the same reasons cited here – they were being sponged to feed the beast. Amazingly, the vote for them to secede was taken over the whole of LA – in stead of just the valley – of course if failed.

Venril on April 13, 2011 at 11:48 PM

Congratulations to the fine p(and diverse) people of Galt’s Gulch … er, Sandy Springs.

Jaibones on April 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

Great comparison….

Venril on April 13, 2011 at 11:55 PM