Quotes of the day

posted at 8:30 pm on April 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Trump is suddenly ‘winning’ as a political figure because the political class has failed. The authority of our political institutions is weak and getting weaker; it’s not that Americans ‘lack trust’ in them, as blue ribbon pundits and sociologists often lament, so much as they lack respect for the people inside them…

“No amount of His Trumpness can renew or replace American political authority. Republicans make a dangerous mistake when they think of politics as a pathological farce that can only be cured by a business worldview that sees economics as the master science. Even though, as Tocqueville observes, money really is more important in democratic times, money is not the measure of all things. We — we Republicans, we Democrats, we Americans — still need politicians who can rule wisely, bravely, and well. Look at what’s behind the huge novelty of Trump’s rise, and you find a venerable truth. There is no substitute for statesmen.”

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“‘It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,’ Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC…

“[Fukino said] that the original so-called ‘long form’ birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a ‘record of live birth’ — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

“Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files…

“‘It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,’ Fukino said.”

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“During an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller on Thursday, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said businessman and potential 2012 GOP primary candidate Donald Trump deserves to be taken seriously as a legitimate candidate, noting that ‘Donald Trump comes to the race with some notoriety — people know who he is.’

“But when it came to Trump’s questioning whether or not President Obama was born in the U.S., Rubio said: ‘I would suggest — if he asked for my opinion — not to focus so much on that issue. There are more important things facing our country. I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?’”

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“He’s tackling this birth thing head on. I mean head on. And they can’t say that Trump is part of the Tea Party. He’s not there. I mean he’s a marginal Republican in terms of the way people classify, but I mean nobody is out there tackling this the way he is. I actually think, by the way, that Trump is providing a blueprint here. The way to beat Obama 2012 is to just go at him. Everybody lives in this media-created fantasy that the guy’s unbeatable, that he’s the greatest orator in the world. You get him away from the prompter, I’m serious, and he’s lost. He’s a gaffe machine. He and Biden are in the same class, and it doesn’t take long to call the roll.

“There’s a mythology that has been created about Obama that unnecessarily makes people afraid, and Trump is illustrating the way to do this, and Paul Ryan’s budget, just go right after him. You just go right after him, instead of pussyfooting around, worrying about what the independents are gonna say or worried about what the people that pay attention to politics two days a year are gonna say, just go after it. Last night while appearing with the Reverend Sharpton in New York, Obama said that he stood by his record the past two years, said he is proud of what he’s accomplished. Well, what is that? What has he accomplished? That’s not an achievement. That is an albatross. Obamacare? What has he accomplished as president, except ruining the economy? Is that what he’s proud of? The scary thing is it very well might be.”

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“‘I appreciate that the Donald wants to spend his resources in getting to the bottom of something that so interests him and many Americans. You know, more power to him,’ Palin said Saturday on Fox News. ‘He’s not just throwing stones from the sidelines, he’s digging in, he’s paying for researchers.’…

“‘Well, you know, I think that he was born in Hawaii because there was a birth announcement put in the newspaper,’ Palin said. ‘But obviously if there’s something there that the president doesn’t want people to see on that birth certificate that he’s going to great lengths to make sure it isn’t shown. And that’s kind of perplexing for a lot of people.’”

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Any way the wind blows….

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:22 PM

MAGNIFICO!

Laura in Maryland on April 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Good Night, Canopfor.

Laura in Maryland on April 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Both parents need to be U.S. citizens for a child to be eligible for the Presidency.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:16 PM

The problem with that is we’ve already had a president who didn’t have two citizens as parents: Chester Arthur’s father was Canadian. The horses have left the barn there. I really doubt SCOTUS would rule that way on the definition of ‘natural-born’ if they were to hear such a case in the near future and there’s no legal precedent as it is.

alwaysfiredup on April 10, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Trump is a joke. Just go away already.

therightwinger on April 10, 2011 at 10:27 PM

What’s wrong with putting the Liar-in-Chief on his heels? More power to him. I’ve never seen The Donald back down or lose a public fight.

John the Libertarian on April 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM

They will argue that the 14th amendment altered that requirement.

Better to have the birth certificate and find out what is going on here.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Hard to argue it when the author of that 14th amendment’s clause, Sen. Howard, stated in his own words state he’s not changing the definition, just clarifying.

This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.

Obama’s daddy was a foreigner at the time of Obama’s birth. Even the 14th amendment wouldn’t recognize his as natural born.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM

Trump is a joke. Just go away already.

therightwinger on April 10, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Yeah, but he’s stirring up the pot a little.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 10, 2011 at 11:25 PM

If Trump is a Joke, then at whose expense?

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:38 PM

At this point, I’m willing to vote for Gary Busey for POTUS.

Laura in Maryland on April 10, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Chauncey the gardener w/b less destructive.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 11:39 PM

GoodNight Everyone——————-:)

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Sweet Dreams!

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Obama’s daddy was a foreigner at the time of Obama’s birth. Even the 14th amendment wouldn’t recognize his as natural born.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:35 PM

I agree, but it isn’t settled law as it hasn’t gone before the supreme court. They will make the argument and scream their heads off about racism.

I want the strong argument because I have little faith in the courts or the politicians to do the right thing.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

John the Libertarian on April 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Did he win the public fight with Rrosie O’Donnell?..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

John the Libertarian on April 10, 2011 at 11:34 PM
Did he win the public fight with Rosie O’Donnell?..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

SFTT..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

The Donald is in a unique position to hold the President’s feet to the fire, and do it with aplomb. His various exploits and accomplishments give him a pretty damn good megaphone; notice how “volubly” upset he makes the trolls? That in itself is worth something.

The beauty part is that Trump has nothing to lose.

I don’t think he’s what we need for a President, but he is definitely exposing the emperor’s new clothes. More, please.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2011 at 11:44 PM

SFTT..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:42 PM

Don’t say it…. DON’T!!!
^_^

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:46 PM

The problem with that is we’ve already had a president who didn’t have two citizens as parents: Chester Arthur’s father was Canadian. The horses have left the barn there. I really doubt SCOTUS would rule that way on the definition of ‘natural-born’ if they were to hear such a case in the near future and there’s no legal precedent as it is.

alwaysfiredup on April 10, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I appreciate your doubt about the SCOTUS and a hypothetical ruling, but we really don’t know what they’d rule since it hasn’t been put to the test before. Who knows, if the focus becomes “natural born” instead of confusing people with interchanging the terms U.S. citizen and nationalized citizen and natural born citizen, then perhaps this can reach the high court.

I haven’t paid close attention to all of the cases brought to the lower courts over this, but my understanding is that they focused on making Obama reveal his birth certificate, rather than focusing on the issue of natural born citizenship.

If Trump can place that issue (natural born) into this debate, then we might be able to gain some traction with this.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:47 PM

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:46 PM

LOL!..Hard habit to break!..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:48 PM

George Carlin on Lying Politicians

Spathi on April 10, 2011 at 11:50 PM

The beauty part is that Trump has nothing to lose.

hillbillyjim on April 10, 2011 at 11:44 PM

And everything to gain.

Teh (deliberately Dire) left loves Trump. So his make believe conservative face-plant doesn’t baffle us, as so much as it does the left. It’s a Glorious Distraction. To quote an Obamaism.

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 11:51 PM

heh..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 11:54 PM

I agree, but it isn’t settled law as it hasn’t gone before the supreme court. They will make the argument and scream their heads off about racism.

I want the strong argument because I have little faith in the courts or the politicians to do the right thing.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 11:41 PM

I hear you, but if he reveals his birth certificate and it says he’s born in Hawaii, then what? Will most people just shrug and walk away? Yes, I think they will, and my point is, they shouldn’t because we already know he is ineligible due to his father’s status.

Oh well, if some think chasing down the birth certificate is the way to go, more power to them. I just prefer getting to the same destination by connecting the dots that already exist for us. Some are just making it damned more complicated than it is. All the facts we need are presented neatly in front of us to know he’s ineligible, yet some insist on looking through the bushes and under rocks for something that’s hiding in plain sight.

Obama is probably laughing his skinny arse off right now.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Obama is probably laughing his skinny arse off right now.

yogi41 on April 10, 2011 at 11:58 PM

Oh, so that’s where it went. We knew he didn’t work it off.

Laura in Maryland on April 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

And the moonbats are responding in their customary manner — with ad hominem attacks and frothing vitriol. He’s crazy. He’s a publicity hound (as if, say, Michael Moore isn’t). The comrades demand that NBC fire him for his lese majeste — a suggestion floated on MSNBC, home of so many diversity-celebrators.

You know Trump is scoring when Auntie Zeituni shows up on at least two local stations Friday night to claim that unlike herself, her nephew is in fact an American. When I first saw her, I assumed it was a human-interest piece on how the impending government shutdown was going to affect illegal aliens on welfare.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

You know Trump is scoring when Auntie Zeituni shows up on at least two local stations Friday night to claim that unlike herself, her nephew is in fact an American. When I first saw her, I assumed it was a human-interest piece on how the impending government shutdown was going to affect illegal aliens on welfare.

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Bahahahaha!

Now, if only Trump would find out if that really is the auntie.

MeatHeadinCA on April 11, 2011 at 12:03 AM

The “Today” show would never book a real “birther” but they did put Trump on. He’s one of the Beautiful People, or was. And Trump smacked Obama on every imaginable issue. Meredith Vieira’s jaw dropped. He talked about “$7 or $8” gasoline, described Obamacare as a “total disaster.” He was doing something you seldom see on “Today.” He was telling the truth.

Trump’s been doing the same thing with the agitprop sheet known as The New York Times [NYT]. After an attack by the snoremonger Gail Collins, Trump wrote a snide letter to the editor expressing his great respect for her because “she has survived so long with so little talent.”

Again, the truth hurts. And then he added, “For some reason, the press protects President Obama beyond anything or anyone I have ever seen.”

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Schadenfreude on April 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Aunt Zeituni?! Wow, O really is afraid of this.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM

I wonder if Cousin Pookie will come out of the woodwork next to claim O was born here or Uncle Jethro (but will he get off the sofa?).

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Oh, so that’s where it went. We knew he didn’t work it off.

Laura in Maryland on April 11, 2011 at 12:00 AM

His caboose filled out those mom jeans alright

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 12:06 AM

David Plouffe is a classic political fluffer. The only thing he not showing is his roller skates and knee pads.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 12:39 AM

Donald is the fella who thinks it is a good idea to storm the hill, then draws up plans for you to do so. By this time next year he’ll be HA’s PeeWee Herman.

Limerick on April 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

Limerick on April 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

You summed it up well!..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2011 at 12:48 AM

By this time next year he’ll be HA’s PeeWee Herman.

Limerick on April 11, 2011 at 12:45 AM

Maybe so, but at the moment he is the only one who has the guts, or is in a position to ask any hard questions of the Lightbringer. So it seems that PeeWee Herman has more courage than the entire GOP.

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 12:49 AM

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Guts? So what, we all are Trumps? That raises him to father of the country because he can think up questions and make his mouth move? He is a Roman farce, nothing more.

Limerick on April 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM

but at the moment he is the only one who has the guts, or is in a position to ask any hard questions of the Lightbringer.

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 12:49 AM

The question were never hard, although nobody had the guts, because if you dared, you would be labeled as a racist.

That meme went through the entire 2008 campaign. Even though McVain never really tried to campaign. Can we say this is finally on the table for discussion? It’s fun you know.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 1:05 AM

Guts?

Yeah, that’s having the courage to ask inconvenient questions that the media and the political class don’t want asked.

So what, we all are Trumps?

I prefer the term trumpeteers, but your mileage may vary. /

That raises him to father of the country because he can think up questions and make his mouth move? He is a Roman farce, nothing more.

Limerick on April 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM

What is a farce is the GOP acting as if they oppose Obama when they grovel and whine at the slightest hint of disapproval from the gatekeepers. They facilitate his conduct and that of the media by passively letting them play their idiotic games.

A sad band of bootlickers is what they are.

People are sick and tired of being told what they can think, what they can say, what they are allowed to speak publically about.

He isn’t who I would have chosen if such a choice had been mine to make. However I will give him the credit he deserves for raising the issues that so many are too cowardly to give voice to.

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 1:12 AM

That meme went through the entire 2008 campaign. Even though McVain never really tried to campaign. Can we say this is finally on the table for discussion? It’s fun you know.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 1:05 AM

It is indeed, very entertaining. I especially like the outrage on the part of the media. Its the shock and desperation that anyone dares to question their narrative that gives me that warm fuzzy feeling.

Its also frustration that McCain and so many others attacked conservatives who even raised the subject. Finally someone is talking about it.

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 1:16 AM

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 1:12 AM

Maybe you should start a third party!..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Maybe you should start a third party!..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Thats sounding like a better idea all the time.

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 1:24 AM

sharrukin on April 11, 2011 at 1:24 AM

Good luck I wish you well!..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2011 at 1:26 AM

I can tell you this much. If a Republican is going to win in 2012, it’s going to be someone who goes after Obama so hard that it almost seems personal. His shameful record, his broken promises, his constant buckpassing, and his aloofness when leadership is needed most in the country. All those things need to be hammered at ad nauseum leading up to next November. And you can’t do that effectively by playing nice.

Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

And discounting Trump because he is another flavor of the
week, who do you think this potential presidential candidate will be?

Amjean on April 11, 2011 at 1:32 AM

I envision the following:

1. Zero is arrested, tried and convicted for Federal Election law fraud violations. Pelosi as well, for intentionally and fraudulently certifying him in ’08.. No need for Impeachment proceedings, as he was never a bona fide President. No need to go into the many, many extralegal, extrajudicial and unconstitutional acts by the usurper.
2. Several others are tried for a variety of other illegalities, including fraud and treason. In this regard, I have in mind Soros, Sunstein, Ayers, Powers, . .

After the convictions, I plan to establish a 501(c)(3) (a non-profit) dedicated to the Memory of O in the form of a Non-Presidential Library.

In it would be only a TOTUS. The rest is an empty warehouse. Or, perhaps, include pics of the players on a Beck chalkboard: Soros, Ayers, Sunstein, Powers, etc., etc., and an ash heap in American history display.

Perhaps I’ll come here to raise money for the museum some day.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 1:32 AM

DaveS:I’m thinking Biden,Maxine Waters,or Hank Johnson infamous Gaum Island TipOver SNAFU,for outstanding coherence to the english language and sentence structure!!(sarc).

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 10:53 PM

But… those are all idiots.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 1:44 AM

If a Republican is going to win in 2012, it’s going to be someone who goes after Obama so hard that it almost seems personal.
Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Right you are.

rrpjr on April 11, 2011 at 1:45 AM

No speeky zi englash? No comprehendo dumbo?

Seems pretty clear to me Skippy. What pharts of yer comprehenson did ya’ll no undstand?

Mostly the “if” which is left dangling, the “that” which doesn’t belong, and the new sentence that she started (“he is going…”) before she finished the old sentence and without any conjunction to properly form a correct compound sentence.

Can you even identify the “subject” of that sentence? As far as I can tell, it doesn’t have one. I think my point is perfectly valid (in fact, it is inarguable): she would benefit from trying to speak properly. She isn’t a stupid woman; there is no reason for her to speak like one.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 1:50 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 1:50 AM

Wow. Care to address the points I made just above?

What’s important to you, Dave?

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM

Zero is arrested, tried and convicted for Federal Election law fraud violations

No, as President he can not be arrested; he can only be impeached. However, if it becomes publicly known from some source, or from a court proceeding, that he is ineligible, then he cannot be impeached because he’s not the President.

However, in that case some other entity would gently frog-march him out of The White House.

Emperor Norton on April 11, 2011 at 1:57 AM

She isn’t a stupid woman; there is no reason for her to speak like one.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 1:50 AM

So people who don’t speak proper english are stupid? Are you really sure you want to die on that hill?

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:00 AM

What’s important to you, Dave?

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 1:55 AM

Winning the next election. We won’t do that with public figures who can’t put together coherent sentences in our language. She has a responsibility–to all of us–to get her crap together and learn to intelligently persuade people to our side.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Emperor Norton on April 11, 2011 at 1:57 AM

If (and I believe he is) a fraudulent president (lower case), then he has no privilege of an impeachment proceeding.

I maintain that in the face of this level of illegality – unknown in our history – he will be arrested, then tried and convicted. Frog-marching out works. He will Not be accorded even the honor of an Impeachment proceeding. He was never a bona fide President.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:05 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Oh I’m sure Sarah could always be more perfect in ‘anyone’s’ eyes.

Just like you or me. Shall I dissect your grammar or, or? Shall you mine?

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:09 AM

If a Republican is going to win in 2012, it’s going to be someone who goes after Obama so hard that it almost seems personal.

Actually, the focus should be on the issues that are effecting the lives of the American people. With a vengeance.

Remember when Obama trashed talked corporations? And now he’s in bed with Jeff Immelt of GE, even has the guy on his economic destruction panel. Kinda ironic and selective, yes?

Obama only uses those that give him money and tribute. The easily taken are the unions and corporations that rely on govmint cheese. That’s taxpayer monies for those in Rio Linda.

Energy, a plethora of unicorns and skittles. Windmills and wooden shoes. If you can strap a windmill on your luggage rack and get to work, then a government grant you’ll get. Want a permit to suck oil out of the ground, not so much as a wink and a nod.

It’s reality checks like this than need to be out in front. What’s hurting the American people lives. Obama said about gas prices, “Get use to it”. Hey that’s presidential divisiveness. Want Brazilian oil, sold by Brazil Nuts?

Cork screw light bulbs with EPA 12 step regulations. FCC internet regulations to make your connection slower and more expensive. Nuting like good old gubmint regulations to make your lives so much better than others.

Are you better off now, than 2 years ago?

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:12 AM

I think my point is perfectly valid (in fact, it is inarguable): she would benefit from trying to speak properly. She isn’t a stupid woman; there is no reason for her to speak like one.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 1:50 AM

WOW! You musta slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:16 AM

Oh I’m sure Sarah could always be more perfect in ‘anyone’s’ eyes.

Just like you or me. Shall I dissect your grammar or, or? Shall you mine?

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:09 AM

Why would we do that? We’re talking about her speaking abilities and how bad they are. Neither you nor I matter. Compared to her “peer group” at that level, she speaks very poorly.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:19 AM

Sarah’s cadence requires one to stop and listen. No one I know of doesn’t understand her message.

She’s all good.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:21 AM

Sarah’s cadence requires one to stop and listen. No one I know of doesn’t understand her message.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:21 AM

I didn’t say that people couldn’t understand her. But she comes off as scatterbrained and as a poor speaker. She is not a good communicator for a role which seeks to persuade people and build a national majority.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:23 AM

We won’t do that with public figures who can’t put together coherent sentences in our language.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:01 AM

Would a teleprompter be acceptable? Crib notes written on the hand Okay, or is it (OK).

I suppose all those public speeches are more like a stand up comedy routine? Like writing a book, using lots of pictures and no big words.

Maybe just being an articulate, bright, clean and nice-looking, is presidential material all in itself.

Do ya suppose Dave, do ya suppose?

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:28 AM

I didn’t say that people couldn’t understand her. But she comes off as scatterbrained and as a poor speaker.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:23 AM

You realize that’s a double entendre

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:34 AM

I didn’t say that people couldn’t understand her. But she comes off as scatterbrained and as a poor speaker. She is not a good communicator for a role which seeks to persuade people and build a national majority.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:23 AM

Please. You would dis me for my southern accent IF I was back there (in the South) for two seconds.

I give her kudos for speaking Truth right through the lsm and lefty talking points, almost every day.

You need to go beyond dangling participles to the truth that Sarah speaks.

Oh, and the Really Important Realities we’re dealing with with the O? You’re gonna dis Sarah for a participle or some other contrived grammatical error?

Please see my initial comment above.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:36 AM

But she comes off as scatterbrained and as a poor speaker.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:23 AM

I don’t think she does. Are you sure you don’t just believe her to be scatterbrained, and therefore see confirmation of your bias when you listen to her?

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:37 AM

[A] Would a teleprompter be acceptable? Crib notes written on the hand Okay, or is it (OK).

[B] I suppose all those public speeches are more like a stand up comedy routine? Like writing a book, using lots of pictures and no big words.

[C] Maybe just being an articulate, bright, clean and nice-looking, is presidential material all in itself.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:28 AM

[A] Either is perfectly fine. Why shouldn’t it be?

[B] I have no idea what you’re talking about.

[C] Again, no idea what you’re talking about (that isn’t something I ever said), but being articulate is absolutely a requirement. Not even debateable.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:38 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:23 AM

Further, Obama speaks differently when speaking in front of predominantly black audiences. Why does he not seem stupid when speaking in AAVE? It sure isn’t “proper” English.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:39 AM

Are you sure you don’t just believe her to be scatterbrained, and therefore see confirmation of your bias when you listen to her?

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:37 AM

Yes, I’m sure. Since I usually agree with her, I know exactly what she means. She is an awful communicator.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:39 AM

Further, Obama speaks differently when speaking in front of predominantly black audiences. Why does he not seem stupid when speaking in AAVE? It sure isn’t “proper” English.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:39 AM

Obama seems stupid regardless of where he is talking, because I don’t think he knows much about anything at all. However, he SOUNDS much more intelligent than Palin.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:41 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:39 AM

I don’t think she is any worse than most politicians, to be honest. She speaks with a regional dialect, just as a Southern or New England pol might. I wish people could be less snobbish about these sorts of things.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:42 AM

Yes, I’m sure. Since I usually agree with her, I know exactly what she means. She is an awful communicator.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:39 AM

No, Dave, you don’t ‘usually’ agree with her. In fact, you’re paid to never agree with her. I’ve engaged you before on this site.

You’re a trollllllllllllllllllllll.

G’night All.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:45 AM

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:42 AMBut it goes beyond dialect–she actually mangles sentences. Listen to Haley Barbour or somebody speak… he’s southern, but he includes subjects and verbs and whatnot in his sentences.

It isn’t entirely snobbery–though for some it is, certainly-but, regardless, a significant portion of the electorate will not tolerate it.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:47 AM

However, he SOUNDS much more intelligent than Palin.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:41 AM

No, he doesn’t. He’s learned to imitate the mannerisms of rich and educated people. That’s not intelligence, that’s performance, and truly intelligent people can tell the difference. There’s nothing particularly spectacular about his speaking ability. He sounds like any other black preacher-turned-politician, a pale shadow of MLK. Whereas Palin will never have the preacher cadence, and shouldn’t, since she’s not a preacher. It would be strange.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:47 AM

No, he doesn’t. He’s learned to imitate the mannerisms of rich and educated people. That’s not intelligence, that’s performance, and truly intelligent people can tell the difference. There’s nothing particularly spectacular about his speaking ability. He sounds like any other black preacher-turned-politician, a pale shadow of MLK. Whereas Palin will never have the preacher cadence, and shouldn’t, since she’s not a preacher. It would be strange.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:47 AM

First of all, speaking in complete sentences is not a skill held only by “rich and educated people”. Secondly, if immitating it is so easy, Palin should try it.

I didn’t say she needs to talk like a preacher. I said she needs to speak in complete, coherent sentences.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:48 AM

but, regardless, a significant portion of the electorate will not tolerate it.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:47 AM

They tolerated the odd voices of JFK and Jimmy Carter and the provincialism of Bill Clinton. They will tolerate Palin.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:49 AM

No, Dave, you don’t ‘usually’ agree with her. In fact, you’re paid to never agree with her. I’ve engaged you before on this site.

You’re a trollllllllllllllllllllll.

Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:45 AM

LOL… um, OK.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:50 AM

They tolerated the odd voices of JFK and Jimmy Carter and the provincialism of Bill Clinton. They will tolerate Palin.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:49 AM

Those are accents. Palin’s accent–which is, indeed, thick–is not the problem.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:51 AM

Anyway, gotta run. Nitey nite.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:51 AM

Secondly, if immitating it is so easy, Palin should try it.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:48 AM

No, she shouldn’t. Obama’s a phony, that’s why he has to imitate other people. Palin should be herself and not listen to people who sneer at her life and lifestyle. Bush was no master of the English language and he did alright.

alwaysfiredup on April 11, 2011 at 2:53 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:38 AM

In addition to not being able to comprehend, you’re not in tune with either current, or past, events.

Why am I not surprised.

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 2:54 AM

LOL… um, OK.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:50 AM

You. Betch. A. Parse that one.

See you at the Anti-American Ex-Non-Presidential Museum.

I’m sure you’ll contribute.
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Opinionator on April 11, 2011 at 2:55 AM

Anyway, gotta run. Nitey nite.

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:51 AM

Oh sure, run away

Kini on April 11, 2011 at 3:09 AM

A lot of things don’t add up on Obama and his place of birth.

You have his word that he was born in the USA, but no clear documentation to back it up.

He puts a photoshoped low resolution copy of a Certificate of Live Birth on the web, says it is real, but has spend millions to keep anyone from proving it real or fake, which tends to favor it is fake.

He alledgedly sends a real certified copy of his Certification of live birth, with state seal embossed on it to a web site to prove it is real, yet aside from a few pictures we never see it and no one his holding it up as real, so is it or is it a really good fake that is quietly put away?

The original clerk of records in Hawaii says she has seen it, twice and discribes it as real with a doctor of delivery.

Around the same time a search is made by the state agency that has access to all personal records to varify a person is who they say they are, and no record of birth or hospital delievery is found.

The current governor of Hawaii, a good friend of Obama, and despert to end the controversy searches for the record of a birth in Hawaii, but fails to find one, but does find a written notation which could have come from the grandfather applying for the COLB, which anyone could apply for. Only the long form that generates the computer form we have today truely is the certification that he was born in Hawaii.

His mothers passport records for that period of time showing her travel have somehow been lost or destoryed.

At the age of 16 while living in Hawaii, somehow was able to go down to the social security office in Hawaii and obtain a social security card with a conneticut number that has never been issued so that he could work in the ice cream shop. What is the likelyhood that a mistake of that nature had occured within the social security office in Hawaii?

In that time period Obama was under the tutorage of his grandfather’s friend, Frank Davis, a Moscow appointed member of the Communist Party USA. Could it be that Davis arranged for Obama to get a social security card through his association with the Soviets? It would explain everything if he did as well as bring up the question of why would Obama need that help if a simple trip to the social security office would have given him one.

Obama was declared a citizen of Indonesia by his stepfather to get him into school. Non citizens were not allowed to go to school. At that time his mother had his name removed from her passport as her child. No record of a new US passport exist for Obama at that time. On was issued for him in the early eighties. What had he used to travel on from indoneisa to Hawaii and later Pakistan if he did not have a US passport and was not on his mothers passport?

Obama apparently was issued an Indonesian passport to travel to Hawaii, but that remains unproven. He did use an Indoneasian passport when he went to Pakistan in his early twenties.

America does recognise dual citizenship. Indonesia does not and therefore his US citizenship was forfieted with his use of the Indonesian passport. It was not lost as it could be regained by reaffirming his US citizenship.

Reaffirming citizenship or having dual citizenship results in becoming a naturalized citizen. Nationalized citizens are not eliagible to be president.

Obama has hidden his college records, passport records and his records of elected office. The quesiton is why and the only answer is that they would show he is not eliagble to be president. It was report at one time that those who worked with him as a legistlator knew he was not a US citizen, but that is unverified as a truely made statement.

Then there is his grandmother on tape, affirming his birth in Kenya, despite the interperter trying to correct that statement. The same affirmation was made by his half sister. Once the difficulty of the statement is made known to them, they change to say Hawaii.

His cousin who Obama campaigned for, used his power as priminister to seal all of Obama records. What records were there to seal and why did he do it around the time that the birth certification was becoming an issue?

There is so much about him with red flags that I have to wonder if he was in a witness protection program with a fake history provided to him, or perhaps one from the soviets, like that group of family spies recently busted.

I am waiting for that long form birth certificate to turn up about the time of relection. My guess is it will be forged, but a very good forgery. Around the same time the designated hospital will suddenly discover a record of his birth and a long dead doctor who delivered him. Or maybe like his mothers passport records, which are kept all the way back to the early 1920′s, there will be a fire or some sort of unfortunate destruction of files that just happen to contain his records.

Franklyn on April 11, 2011 at 3:22 AM

Allah has blown a gasket!

Sherman1864 on April 11, 2011 at 3:31 AM

When the left puts down a fellow, you know he is worth at least some serious consideration….When the left praises a republican you got a ‘McCain’ on your hands. That much I do know! Trump scares libs and RINOs a lot.
McCain? Shoulda been ‘McCain(e) Mutiny’! Damn his pink hide for a loser!!

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canopfor on April 11, 2011 at 5:00 AM

I will agree that the Right is desperate — desperate for leaders with real guts. Trump is the only one so far and even if more join in, they’ll be late to the party.

-Aslan’s Girl

You realize the guy is not a genuine conservative, right? Just a cursory Google search would reveal that simple fact. Don’t be lazy.

NoLeftTurn on April 11, 2011 at 5:20 AM

NoLeftTurn on April 11, 2011 at 5:20 AM

I’ll thnak you not to assume anything about me by calling me “lazy”.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 6:03 AM

Franklyn on April 11, 2011 at 3:22 AM

Not to sound like I’m making light of it all, but I’ve always had a half-joking half-serious suspicion that Obama is a CIA plant.

He ran as the Anti-Bush and has governed basically as Bush’s 3rd term really.

He ran as a pacifist but has gone into a 3rd country.
He’s just a VERY bizarre person.

B Man on April 11, 2011 at 6:13 AM

Sarah Palin has it exactly right, and that is the tack folks should take: OK, you were born here, but why are you not showing the document

georgealbert on April 11, 2011 at 6:16 AM

georgealbert on April 11, 2011 at 6:16 AM

That’s the thing.
He almost certainly was born here, so…..why doesn’t he just release it? Something doesn’t add up.
The problem is, the only thing that really matters is was he born here. If he was not, how can you prove it? You would need to unseal the stuff.

By the time we all figured it out, Obama will probably be gone anyway.
Whatever is on his bc that he doesn’t want people to know about, it’s probably a big nothing.

B Man on April 11, 2011 at 6:20 AM

I just love it when Plouffe says that a small segment of Americans are worried about this and that mainstream Americans are not — a March CNN poll found 51% of Americans are worried. Um, I think that’s a majority, no?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM

Big writeup of Trump in washtimes today. The only counter the WH can provide is “Trump’s crazy” “No chance” blah blah blah…

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/10/trump-rides-issue-of-presidents-birth/

ted c on April 11, 2011 at 6:39 AM

So, he was born here–mmkay. Prove it. We want to see all of the information on the BC. Race, parents, names, dates, locations—all of it. What’s there to hide if you’re so sure of it?

ted c on April 11, 2011 at 6:40 AM

Thanks, ted c, for the link. Gee, they sound just like the anti-birthers from HA over the last three years!

But many in the so-called birther movement, fueled by talk-radio conspiracists and skeptical comments from Republican leaders, remain unconvinced

Who? Who is the WT referencing? NO ONE, not in “talk radio” and CERTAINLY not Republicans leaders have encouraged this.

One last thought: Sarah Palin called this a “distraction” VERY recently, but as soon as Trump’s numbers are skyrocketing him PAST HER in the polls, she’s suddenly saying that she thinks there’s something the POTUS wants to hide. :rollseyes:

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 7:01 AM

Keep on it, the Donald.

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM

Aslans Girl on April 11, 2011 at 6:23 AM

I’m going to be totally childish, I couldn’t take that guy seriously because of his hair. He’s an odd sneaky looking man.

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM

DaveS on April 11, 2011 at 2:41 AM

Concerned much?

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:13 AM

Ya’ know—-I thought the same thing when I saw him on Chris Wallace yesterday.
Something about his mouth…

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:16 AM

mornin’ y’all

another day, another way for dear leader to skirt around the real issues…i’m sure this wednesday’s speech will be more of the same….let me be clear that I haven’t changed my mind, i’m still going to tax those who make over $250k so that we can take care of medicare and medicaid…

SSDD with him…

cmsinaz on April 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:16 AM

DaveS is always concerned. I have dubbed him our very own Jiminy Cricket. How’s your back? These “new” hair styles of men as so very beta, asymmetrical goofiness or the other one where they look for all the world like a Kepi Doll.

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:26 AM

cmsinaz on April 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM

Mornin’
Going in at eight today for light duty—-PT at two.

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:27 AM

cmsinaz on April 11, 2011 at 7:22 AM

I wonder who told him that the more we see him, the more we like him. So very very wrong.

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:27 AM

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:26 AM

Back still hurts. PT today.
Plouffe’s lips look odd to me, like he is saying something different than he means. The hair is weird too. I hate the messy and uncombed hair these days—looks real slovenly.

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:31 AM

Cindy Munford on April 11, 2011 at 7:27 AM

Lolz.
I don’t trust his lips either.
Plouffe & 0 seem to have the same lips.

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:33 AM

Rasmussen poll: Obama — Strongly Approve: 19% (new low); Strongly Disapprove: 39% — Total Approval: 44%…developing…

via drudge

cmsinaz on April 11, 2011 at 7:37 AM

The lady in Hawaii says she has seen it, but she doesn’t say who the parents are….or the doctor…or…

Obama is hiding something….along with his college grades…his SAT and LSAT scores…

The US done got bamboozled.

albill on April 11, 2011 at 7:37 AM

OmahaConservative on April 11, 2011 at 7:27 AM

hang in there good buddy :)

cmsinaz on April 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM

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