Quotes of the day

posted at 8:30 pm on April 10, 2011 by Allahpundit

“Trump is suddenly ‘winning’ as a political figure because the political class has failed. The authority of our political institutions is weak and getting weaker; it’s not that Americans ‘lack trust’ in them, as blue ribbon pundits and sociologists often lament, so much as they lack respect for the people inside them…

“No amount of His Trumpness can renew or replace American political authority. Republicans make a dangerous mistake when they think of politics as a pathological farce that can only be cured by a business worldview that sees economics as the master science. Even though, as Tocqueville observes, money really is more important in democratic times, money is not the measure of all things. We — we Republicans, we Democrats, we Americans — still need politicians who can rule wisely, bravely, and well. Look at what’s behind the huge novelty of Trump’s rise, and you find a venerable truth. There is no substitute for statesmen.”

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“‘It’s kind of ludicrous at this point,’ Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC…

“[Fukino said] that the original so-called ‘long form’ birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a ‘record of live birth’ — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

“Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files…

“‘It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,’ Fukino said.”

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“During an exclusive interview with The Daily Caller on Thursday, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said businessman and potential 2012 GOP primary candidate Donald Trump deserves to be taken seriously as a legitimate candidate, noting that ‘Donald Trump comes to the race with some notoriety — people know who he is.’

“But when it came to Trump’s questioning whether or not President Obama was born in the U.S., Rubio said: ‘I would suggest — if he asked for my opinion — not to focus so much on that issue. There are more important things facing our country. I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?’”

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“He’s tackling this birth thing head on. I mean head on. And they can’t say that Trump is part of the Tea Party. He’s not there. I mean he’s a marginal Republican in terms of the way people classify, but I mean nobody is out there tackling this the way he is. I actually think, by the way, that Trump is providing a blueprint here. The way to beat Obama 2012 is to just go at him. Everybody lives in this media-created fantasy that the guy’s unbeatable, that he’s the greatest orator in the world. You get him away from the prompter, I’m serious, and he’s lost. He’s a gaffe machine. He and Biden are in the same class, and it doesn’t take long to call the roll.

“There’s a mythology that has been created about Obama that unnecessarily makes people afraid, and Trump is illustrating the way to do this, and Paul Ryan’s budget, just go right after him. You just go right after him, instead of pussyfooting around, worrying about what the independents are gonna say or worried about what the people that pay attention to politics two days a year are gonna say, just go after it. Last night while appearing with the Reverend Sharpton in New York, Obama said that he stood by his record the past two years, said he is proud of what he’s accomplished. Well, what is that? What has he accomplished? That’s not an achievement. That is an albatross. Obamacare? What has he accomplished as president, except ruining the economy? Is that what he’s proud of? The scary thing is it very well might be.”

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“‘I appreciate that the Donald wants to spend his resources in getting to the bottom of something that so interests him and many Americans. You know, more power to him,’ Palin said Saturday on Fox News. ‘He’s not just throwing stones from the sidelines, he’s digging in, he’s paying for researchers.’…

“‘Well, you know, I think that he was born in Hawaii because there was a birth announcement put in the newspaper,’ Palin said. ‘But obviously if there’s something there that the president doesn’t want people to see on that birth certificate that he’s going to great lengths to make sure it isn’t shown. And that’s kind of perplexing for a lot of people.’”

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MSM turning this into a media circus and getting people off the disaster of the Obama Administration.

Wake up, gang, America will not survive 8 years of Obama.

NickDeringer on April 10, 2011 at 8:32 PM

So, we’ve taken a horse out back….

…shot it dead with a 12 gauge.

Then, we gave the horse a good beating, and subsequently buried it.

Not satisfied, we dug the horse up, exhuming the body for another long beating.

Then, we went to bury the horse again, but before we could complete the task, we decided to give it one good, final lashing.

blatantblue on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Ugh,I was thinking my next Trump thread comment,was going

to be,a “SideShow”,and the above video,beat me to it!!

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Trump has all the balls, the others have none at all.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Exactomundo Nick anything to avoid dear leader failures….

cmsinaz on April 10, 2011 at 8:36 PM

Let’s stone Marco Rubio. He is another sell-out RINO.

bayview on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

I actually think, by the way, that Trump is providing a blueprint here. The way to beat Obama 2012 is to just go at him.

It amazes me that more Republicans haven’t figured this out yet. I guess they think if they go after Obama the way Palin has since the moment she stepped out on that stage at the convention, they’ll end up like her, smeared by the media 24/7. But the alternative is to play nice and gain no traction with the conservative base(Mitch Daniels, anyone?).

I can tell you this much. If a Republican is going to win in 2012, it’s going to be someone who goes after Obama so hard that it almost seems personal. His shameful record, his broken promises, his constant buckpassing, and his aloofness when leadership is needed most in the country. All those things need to be hammered at ad nauseum leading up to next November. And you can’t do that effectively by playing nice.

Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

“‘It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,’ Fukino said.”

Put up or shut up.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

“‘It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that,’ Fukino said.”

I don’t doubt Obama was born in the US… but lets see this record… Hawaii’s record laws are ridiculous…

ninjapirate on April 10, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Even though, as Tocqueville observes, money really is more important in democratic times, money is not the measure of all things. We — we Republicans, we Democrats, we Americans — still need politicians who can rule wisely, bravely, and well.

Rule? RULE??? I don’t need anyone to RULE me, jackass. THAT’S what’s wrong with the political class – they actually think they are the RULING class.

fossten on April 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM

I wish Trump would devote his attention to Obama’s school records. Not even just his college records. Apparently, his kindergarden records are sealed. That’s the WTF? story that people can relate to. He says he was born in Hawaii. Fine. Show us the school records. His medical records would be a nice get, too.

joejm65 on April 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM

“But when it came to Trump’s questioning whether or not President Obama was born in the U.S., Rubio said: ‘I would suggest — if he asked for my opinion — not to focus so much on that issue. There are more important things facing our country. I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?’”

Of course Rubio says this. He is not a Natural Born citizen himself. And don’t worry Rubio, Trump isn’t going to ask for your opinion.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM

There are more important things facing our country. I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America

Yes, there are more important things than insisting the Constitution be followed and politicians – especially the President – be completely and totally transparent.

so much as they lack respect for the people inside them

Don’t we all respect cowards?

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Rubio ran away, bravely ran away
When danger reared it’s head he bravely turned his tail and fled.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:41 PM

NickDeringer on April 10, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Excellent post!..:)

Dire Straits on April 10, 2011 at 8:42 PM

Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Seconded. It’s a dirty but effective Democrat trick — appoint a black(ish) president to set the honkies stammering and tripping over themselves not to criticize him, even in the face of the most egregious failures. That’s really all it is. Imagine him as Barry Dunham, 1st-term senator (incomplete) and ask yourselves if he would ever have made it.

Fortunata on April 10, 2011 at 8:44 PM

O/T-Finally found it(Video 25:51)
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On the Budget,who really was fighting,from
the almost midnight,Government ShutDown avert
ed!!

Team Women Republican’s from the House!
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Watch,clear and concise,and b*llshit
cutting analysist on the budget,and taking
on the MSM ‘Talking Points’!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pres. Obama and Congressional Leaders Reach Budget Deal
New CR keeps Gov’t running until next Friday
Washington, DC
Friday, April 8, 2011
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This afternoon, President Obama has signed into law a six day budget agreement that Congress approved earlier this morning.

Late Friday night at the eleventh hour, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) announced that negotiators reached an agreement to fund the government for the remainder of the fiscal year.

In order to finalize the language and write the bill, congress passed another short term Continuing Resolution (CR) which will fund the government until April 15th and cuts an additional $2 billion in spending. It also includes an additional $38.5 billion in spending cuts for the rest of the fiscal year which ends September 30th.

This agreement kept the government from shutting down, as well as keeping federal employees from having to take furlough days. It also kept government buildings, museums and National Parks from closing.

Negotiators continue to meet on the bill language. The House hopes to file the bill online late Monday so members and the public can read the text of the legislation. According to a release from House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), the House may debate and vote on the bill on Wednesday.

The Government has been operating on continuing resolutions since the fiscal year began last October.
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http://c-span.org/Events/No-Deal-Yet-Government-Shutdown-looms-at-Midnight/10737420771-11/

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Trump is completely in Plouffe and Obama’s head.

It’s something to behold and to watch.

Trump doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him, nor should he have to, and he can’t be labelled a racist.

This is an incredible development and has the WH going nuts.

And, to see the Amanpour paramour in even more of a huff is schadenfreudig beyond belief.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM

It is a complete farce that we as a public were allowed to see Jack Ryan’s divorce records(that Obama partisans drudged up) but we can’t see the ‘record of live birth’…

Obama and Axelrod have ruined two people’s political careers over divorce records.

ninjapirate on April 10, 2011 at 8:46 PM

I don’t doubt that there is a birth certificate.

If Donald is serious about this, he ought to put up or shut up by doing two things:

1. Find out who’s listed as the father.

2. File a lawsuit and let the Supremes decide if the son of a British subject can legally be on the ballot in 2012.

Vatican Watcher on April 10, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Obama and Axelrod have ruined two people’s political careers over divorce records.

Seriously, what’s more of a “public document”… divorce records or a birth certificate?

ninjapirate on April 10, 2011 at 8:47 PM

it’s not that Americans ‘lack trust’ in them, as blue ribbon pundits and sociologists often lament, so much as they lack respect for the people inside them…

Spot on. Our institutions are fine, its the people inside them that allow the ‘institution’ to take on poor qualities. I dislike seeing and hearing the term “Washington is broken.” Well, I know that’s a proxy for the federal government, but Washington is a city and its inanimate. If there are problems inside there, then there are people behind them that either can, or cannot, positively impact those problems.

ted c on April 10, 2011 at 8:47 PM

I would say Trump’s charge that Obama is a foreign relations disaster, that the rest of the world laughs at out leadership, that out enemies consider our leaders the most weakened that they’ve ever been before, that Obama has no clue what he’s talking about when it comes to business to be a little more damaging than his birth certificate charges. So they’re going to play up Trump’s birth certificate charges.

Marcus on April 10, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Trump is suddenly ‘winning’ as a political figure because…

Honestly, I like the thoughts in his article, but have a hard time taking seriously an article that not only uses a trite pop-culture phrase, but uses it when the trend has already passed…

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 8:47 PM

We — we Republicans, we Democrats, we Americans — still need politicians who can rule wisely, bravely, and well. Look at what’s behind the huge novelty of Trump’s rise, and you find a venerable truth. There is no substitute for statesmen.

This is great. I completely agree.

ted c on April 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Double post:

Or even better, forget the lawsuit and just go on national TV and explain why Obama shouldn’t be president under the natural born citizen clause with charts like Perot.

Vatican Watcher on April 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM

“‘Well, you know, I think that he was born in Hawaii because there was a birth announcement put in the newspaper,’ Palin said.

Reagan said trust but verify. A ‘birth announcement’ ain’t worth squat. Foreign adversaries would roll Palin like a rubber ball. Palin is certainly no Reagan.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Trump is a joke and the joke is on us.

jhffmn on April 10, 2011 at 8:49 PM

“‘Well, you know, I think that he was born in Hawaii because there was a birth announcement put in the newspaper,’ Palin said.

This sounds like something Whoppi Goldberg would say.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Rubio ran away, bravely ran away
When danger reared it’s head he bravely turned his tail and fled.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:41 PM

He lost my respect.

All he had to say was the American people expect complete and total transparency from the President and President Obama has not met even the minimal standards of transparency that all President before him have met. The President needs to start being the leader he promised and that starts with releasing all of his personal records.

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

So, we’ve taken a horse out back….

…shot it dead with a 12 gauge.

Then, we gave the horse a good beating, and subsequently buried it.

Not satisfied, we dug the horse up, exhuming the body for another long beating.

Then, we went to bury the horse again, but before we could complete the task, we decided to give it one good, final lashing.

blatantblue on April 10, 2011 at 8:34 PM

And yet it still haunts Obama, and won’t stay down the way it is supposed to when banished by the MSM and sneered at by the ‘wise ones’.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Please! Don’t go after the birth certificate! Please! Anything but that!
And please don’t nominate Trump, or Palin or Bachmann in ’12! Obama won’t stand a chance! No fair!

chumpThreads on April 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

So, pretty much if we ask basic questions, we’re racists until that loses its sting. Then we’re birthers. Now that’s losing something of its sting as well.

I prefer the term “Constitutionalist” myself. And if you’re not, could you please explain the difference between a natural born citizen and all the other just plain citizens. If there’s no difference, why the different term that appears nowhere else.

If there is a difference, don’t you think We the People have a right to question and verify if that LAW has been followed?

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

The way to beat Obama 2012 is to just go at him. Everybody lives in this media-created fantasy that the guy’s unbeatable, that he’s the greatest orator in the world. You get him away from the prompter, I’m serious, and he’s lost. He’s a gaffe machine. He and Biden are in the same class, and it doesn’t take long to call the roll.

I agree with Rush. Go right at Obama. Bypass the media, hit him between the eyes and watch him respond. It happened during the campaign when SArah Palin was hitting him. It really got him flustered and the handlers then subsequently tethered him to the TOTUS, a nipple he’s never been able to wean off of. ah well.

ted c on April 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM

The kernel, the key to Trump’s success, what is in the WH’s and the media’s brains, eating at them, like worms, like progressive cancers

But the massive fact dominating it all is that never before has such a famous outsider jumped into national politics with such an aggressive critique of a sitting president and the direction of the country — and never before has the response been so immediate and positive.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM

e is not a Natural Born citizen himself.

His parents were Cuban exiles and he was born in 1971… if he wasn’t born in America where would he have been born?

ninjapirate on April 10, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Rubio is a young, arrogant buck.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:52 PM

ted c on April 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM

2nd that

cmsinaz on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

chumpThreads on April 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

Where’s Proud Rino? He was a little better at it than you. Are you the night shift or something?

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

1. Find out who’s listed as the father.

2. File a lawsuit and let the Supremes decide if the son of a British subject can legally be on the ballot in 2012.

Vatican Watcher on April 10, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Uh, just so you know…

On point one, he’s trying, thus the researchers he’s put on the case.

On point two, this has been tried over and over again by various people. Maybe, please God, Trump would be more successful than the other at getting the case heard, but you say that as if no one has thought of such a thing to now. (not to offend, just sayin’)

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

If,the MSM,took this seriously,and got behind Trump,
and when a Lefty goes through their lock-step talking
points,and if the interviwer/interviewerette,would call
them on it,maybe then,it would take on a more serious
note,however till then!!

Btw,I do question his birth of origin.I would like to see
facts,as it seems,hardly anyone,knows of his birth,normally
any family,has scores of friends and family,who know,when a
little one is born!!

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

the lsm is going to trash the gop anyways, might as well as fun doing it

cmsinaz on April 10, 2011 at 8:54 PM

In the distant past some people cowered in fear of being called uninformed conspiracy theory fools too tortured to be taken seriously and unfit for their positions, unworthy or in some other manner morally impaired if they could not see the Emperor’s fine new invisible clothes. In the recent past some people cowered in fear of being called uninformed conspiracy theory deniers too tortured to be taken seriously and unfit for their positions, unworthy or in some other manner morally impaired if they could not feel Al Gore’s invisible global warming. Some people now cower in fear of being called uninformed conspiracy theory birthers too tortured to be taken seriously and unfit for their positions, unworthy or in some other manner morally impaired if they can not see Barack Obama’s invisible Magical Birth Certificate.

History seldom repeats, but it very often closely rhymes and shows yet again that some people never learn, that the proclaimed invisible and actual non-existent are almost always the same and that there will always be many men and women among us who are more as Mice and Sheep than as Lions and Foxes. Sometimes it seems a shame that Noah didn’t miss the boat.

Cheshire Cat on April 10, 2011 at 8:54 PM

I don’t care for Trump, but he’s no less of a joke than Boehner in my opinion and Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP as well.

Spathi on April 10, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Read the fable, “The Emperor’s New Clothes” sometime. Even the governor of Hawaii, using his powers of governor of that state, could not find a Hawaiian Birth Certificate for him. Why do you think that is? This Isn’t Rocket Science, nor Brain Surgery. If you are looking for the explanation for something, first look to the simplest explanation, not some damn convoluted one, as that one is most likely the correct one. The simplest explanation for why even the governor of Hawaii, using his powers of governor of that state, could not find a Hawaiian Birth Certificate for Barack Hussien Obama, is the very same reason that, had he been looking for a Hawaiian Birth Certificate for me instead, he could not have found one either. Wake up! Read the fable. The Emperor had no fine, or unfine, clothes, and his clothes weren’t invisible. He was naked.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Every GOP congressman save Ron Paul should be thrown out.

Spathi on April 10, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Rush is right, as usual. Do not doubt him.

Naturally Curly on April 10, 2011 at 8:56 PM

His parents were Cuban exiles and he was born in 1971… if he wasn’t born in America where would he have been born?

Rubio was born in the U.S. but there is yakking about his parents not having been U.S. citizens at the time (this also being a requirement to run for president).

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:56 PM

ted c on April 10, 2011 at 8:51 PM
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2nd that

cmsinaz on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

cmsinaz:Third that!:)

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Messed up the quotes…the last paragraph should not have been in quotes.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

The thing about Trump is that he probably has a great sense for spotting and exploiting weakness. He’s probably seen all these Republicans going on Hard Ball and vouching for the legitimacy of Obama’s concealed past and came to the realization that the Republican base isn’t happy about it.

Buddahpundit on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Trump doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him, nor should he have to, and he can’t be labelled a racist.

This is an incredible development and has the WH going nuts.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM

That’s right. Like him or not, Trump says the things that everyone else is afraid to. I’m not sure I want him to be President, but I really like him as a candidate.

And David Plouffe – what a smug little guy. I’m thinking he’s going to become the sideshow before this is over.

SlaveDog on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

e is not a Natural Born citizen himself.

His parents were Cuban exiles and he was born in 1971… if he wasn’t born in America where would he have been born?

ninjapirate on April 10, 2011 at 8:52 PM

Frankly, that “defense” is getting rather tiresome. Since you sound like such a Constitutional expert, could you please then explain the difference between a natural born citizen and a citizen? What does it take to bridge the natural born citizen gap that the Founders put in there for a reason. Please include in your answer who if anyone is excluded from being a natural born citizen.

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM

canopfor on April 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

:)

cmsinaz on April 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Is Trump really worse than most of the other prospective GOP candidates? We just got collectively reamed by the current crop of reps, at this point I’m thinking a head of lettuce is smarter than most of them.

I’m voting Lizard Man anyway, so who am I to talk; I hate the GOP almost as much as the demorats.

Bishop on April 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Spathi: Every congressman should be thrown out. Without exception. None of them are doing their jobs.

Scott H on April 10, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Every GOP congressman save Ron Paul should be thrown out.
Spathi on April 10, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Sure. Great idea. Jeez…

joejm65 on April 10, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Also, what did Nancy know and when did she know it? Obviously she knew something or they wouldn’t have changed the wording of the DNC documents “certifying” Obama to delete the part about him being eligible under the Constitution:

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/certificate-of-nomination-summary/

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 8:53 PM

1. If he doesn’t have one, then the game is over; if he does have one, then we move on to point two…

2. Obama has said that his father is Kenyan. Trump can file a lawsuit and get all the publicity out of it he can given his resources and notoriety. Maybe it will go someplace, maybe not. Now that I think about it, I like the idea in my second comment above better: buy airtime in TV and explain why Obama is not a natural born citizen.

Vatican Watcher on April 10, 2011 at 9:02 PM

What does it take to bridge the natural born citizen gap that the Founders put in there for a reason. Please include in your answer who if anyone is excluded from being a natural born citizen.

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 8:58 PM

The founders were NOT natural born citizens. They were NOT eligible to be president under the standards they wanted in the constitution.

They had to add a clause in the constitution to allow themselves to be eligible.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I’m sorry but Trump had the best line today when Kandi Krowley (or whatever the spelling is) said this is going to be around for another 20 years and Trump said it could be gone tomorrow if Obama released his birth certificate.

Question, to which there is no logical answer, why would a news person accept the fact that this will be out there for another 20 years?

First, are we entitled to see it? Second, is the press the least bit interested in this, because if this were George Bush, they’d bribe a court clerk to get sealed DUI files in Maine. Thirdly, if this were a race for the Senate from Illinois, they’d get sealed divorce records on the candidate running against Obama/. Yes, the press is sincerely selectively diligent.

bflat879 on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

They’re not going nuts in the WH over where Obama was born. Trump is not finished, yet, by far.

Also, Trump loves his America and hates what’s been happening to her. He’ll leave the stage when he feels like it and it makes Plouffe, the wunderkind, er obamakind, aka weasel extraordinaire, very nervous.

If Trump would mean nothing they would never respond or address his comments.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Aren’t all Cubans who make it to the shores of the US automatically granted asylum and put onto the path to citizenship by act of Congress?

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?

I like Rubio, but this smacks of elitism. Because Rubio doesn’t believe, Trump shouldn’t feel the need to pursue it? What is wrong if Trump pursues finding answers to something he questions?

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 9:04 PM

This is Trump hanging the ‘Birther’ sign around the necks of the Republican and Tea Party supportewrs and nothing more.

darwin-t on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

You’re exactly right about that. They made an exception for themselves. Why? What does “natural born citizen” MEAN that “citizen” does not?

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Trump is an idiot and Palin giving him a high five is extremely dissapointing.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

This is the key to this thread. All other are distractions, tiny pittances – this is what consumes the WH and the media about Trump, plus what they don’t know he’ll do next.

But the massive fact dominating it all is that never before has such a famous outsider jumped into national politics with such an aggressive critique of a sitting president and the direction of the country — and never before has the response been so immediate and positive.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:07 PM

And the Republican field simply fractures more and more. When will this end?

Scott H on April 10, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Trump is an idiot and Palin giving him a high five is extremely dissapointing.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Trump is not an idiot but you claiming so doesn’t make you very smart.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:07 PM

You’re exactly right about that. They made an exception for themselves. Why? What does “natural born citizen” MEAN that “citizen” does not?

UnderstandingisPower on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

That is what is annoying. So many people don’t even both to find out what it means.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I wish Trump would devote his attention to Obama’s school records. Not even just his college records. Apparently, his kindergarden records are sealed. That’s the WTF? story that people can relate to. He says he was born in Hawaii. Fine. Show us the school records. His medical records would be a nice get, too.

joejm65 on April 10, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Yeah, I’d like to see him pivot to these, too. He’s got the BC story out there, people are curious now, the genie is out of the bottle on that one. I’d love to see him, in the next interview when the democrat “journalist” is suggesting he’s a loony “birther,” just pivot off and say, “OK. How about his college records? You and your colleagues are always telling us how intelligent President Obama is. We have no proof of that because he’s had all of his academic records sealed. No other president has done that. Why — as a journalist — are YOU not curious about that? Why aren’t you demanding that he unseal those records as every other president has done? What courses did he take? What were his grades? What did he write his senior thesis on? WHY have you and your colleagues not asked these questions?! If he were a Republican, you’d be screaming about the ‘cover-up’ and you know it.”

The so-called “reporter” would fall off of her chair.

Rational Thought on April 10, 2011 at 9:08 PM

I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?

I like Rubio, but this smacks of elitism. Because Rubio doesn’t believe, Trump shouldn’t feel the need to pursue it? What is wrong if Trump pursues finding answers to something he questions?

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Maybe Rubio to avoid the issue because it is a stupid issue.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:08 PM

I think the whole Birth certificate issue is an Axelrod Tar Baby designed shift attention away from more serious matters and delegitimize debate about Obama’s record in office.

Having said that, I’m glad that someone like Trump is willing to dive on the grenade so to speak and pursue this issue. If springing the Birth certificate trap and forcing the Obama team to show their hand on this is all that Trump achieves this election cycle then it is well and truly worth having him in the mix for the GOP nomination.

Hellrider on April 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Aren’t all Cubans who make it to the shores of the US automatically granted asylum and put onto the path to citizenship by act of Congress?

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 9:03 PM

On and off they were. I have no clue why his folks became citizens when they did, nor do I care, until he runs for president.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Americans repect guts.

Obama’s only show of guts is the amount of vacations he takes.

Get him, Donald!

Next, go after the school records!

Obama is a house of [Three Card Monty] cards.

Stir up enough wind and it will collapse.

profitsbeard on April 10, 2011 at 9:10 PM

I guess they think if they go after Obama the way Palin has since the moment she stepped out on that stage at the convention, they’ll end up like her, smeared by the media 24/7.

Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Good point Doughboy. Since when is it convincing that the media says it’s a losing issue? And let’s see – they attack Palin, now they attack Trump – and people want to run? The same people who say the will NOT let the media pick our next candidate!!11!!!ELEVENTY!!!

Folks – this is how the media picks our candidates. They declare some crazy and some ‘frontrunners’ before the primary. Though not a guarantee, there’s a better chance that the ones the media are trying to discredit our the ones most on our side – and so many conservative still fall in line with the media pied pipers every season for fear of looking ‘extreme’.

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 9:11 PM

sharrukin: How naive you are. ‘Meaning’ is meaningless. Words mean whatever our overlords and masters want them to mean.

Scott H on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Have you noticed the meme from the Obama democrap slushfund crew, and from the beaten dead horses’ mouth?

“It’s time we act like grown ups”

On the Sunday talk shows, Plouffe said it, and others have said it since the won uttered this cause of deflection. I’m expecting more of this call to adulthood with extreme doses of petulant childishness by the democraps accusations of the Tea Party being the 4 Horseman of the Apocalypse.

Meanwhile, there’s Trump with his skittles and unicorns on the quest for the holy birth certificate. If the GOP were wise, and I’m making a stretch in saying that, they would use this to their advantage and make it a state requirement for anyone running for POTUS produce a BC.

Wouldn’t that chew the horses’ chowder!

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Jeepers, I’d like to see his birth certificate.
Or at least find out what’s on it that he’s so determined to keep secret.

justltl on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

This is Trump hanging the ‘Birther’ sign around the necks of the Republican and Tea Party supportewrs and nothing more.

darwin-t on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Then they ought to show courage and insist he comply with the standards every candidate has had to meet in modern history. Palin was just a VP candidate and the decended on Alaska like a swarm of locus and were in search of he placenta. Yet, we have a POTUS who hasn’t even released his birth certificate and people aren’t remotelty even interested.

That may sit well in your gut but I’m willing to be in makes millions of Americans nauseous.

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Trump is an idiot and Palin giving him a high five is extremely dissapointing.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

YOU’RE FIRED!!!

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Words mean whatever our overlords and masters want them to mean.

Scott H on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

The worst part is that far too many even on the right are willing to accept that whipped dog posture as long as they promise not to make fun of them.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM

“But when it came to Trump’s questioning whether or not President Obama was born in the U.S., Rubio said: ‘I would suggest — if he asked for my opinion — not to focus so much on that issue. There are more important things facing our country. I believe Barack Obama was born in the United States of America …So why are we talking about this?’”

Why do Republican politicians insist on making themselves part of this story? They are allowing themselves to be put in the position to make the arguments (or assertions) that Democrats and Barack Obama should rightfully make. All they have to tell the media is “This is not my issue. If you are that interested in the President’s birth certificate or The Donald’s curiosity about it then you should ask those men for more information. This has nothing to do with me.”

Threshing Flora on April 10, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Trump has gumption, money, media access, flourish and impertinence to beat that of the left.

The right needs to forget being nice. It brings only losses.

This bunch in charge are thugs and charlatans, like never before. Trump will give them a good run for their money. The so-called-independents and the Rs should thank him for the sacrifices. Thank goodness he has no reputation to preserve. At this point the country needs saving. All else is absolutely peanuts and won’t matter.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Maybe Rubio to avoid the issue because it is a stupid issue.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Great. So I take it you let Rubio decide what you order for dinner too.

The point is – this is America – it doesn’t matter what you or Rubio or CNN think Trump should want to pursue. It’s up to Trump to decide what’s important for him.

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Maybe Rubio to avoid the issue because it is a stupid issue.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:08 PM

He in plain fact runs away from it. He is a weak boy.

Heckle on April 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Trump is an idiot and Palin giving him a high five is extremely dissapointing.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

It is only disappointing to those who worship cowardice in a politician. Many of us don’t.

sharrukin on April 10, 2011 at 9:16 PM

so many conservative still fall in line with the media pied pipers every season for fear of looking ‘extreme’.

miConsevative on April 10, 2011 at 9:11 PM

So very true. Maybe we can turn that around and use extreme in our favor, as in extreme patriot, extreme fiscal, extreme constitutional, extreme small government, extreme low taxes.

Or am I being too extreme?

Kini on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

sharrukin: It will only stop when people are willing to accept, not just in theory but in practice, that there is truth apart from perception. From my experiences, I would say only 10% (or less) of people in the United States accept that.

Half of the conservative arguments made here on this site immediately fall apart if this truth is accepted.

Scott H on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Trump is an idiot and Palin giving him a high five is extremely dissapointing.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I should be 10% the idiot Donald Trump is. I’ll even take 5% Lord. I’m not greedy. If just 5% of his idiocy could rub off on me I would be eternally grateful. Amen.

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Win the future

WTH does that mean? Is that like bi-winning. What’s next? Is Plouffe going to say that Obama has tiger blood?

DFCtomm on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I want demand to see his passport records.

Naturally Curly on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Maybe Rubio to avoid the issue because it is a stupid issue.

terryannonline on April 10, 2011 at 9:08 PM

Only two things matter to Marco Rubio:

1. Supporting Obama’s war in Libya.

2. Amnesty for illegals.

tetriskid on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

CHump-

I want to see your birth certificate because I don’t believe for a second you are a day over 15.

CWforFreedom on April 10, 2011 at 9:17 PM

I can tell you this much. If a Republican is going to win in 2012, it’s going to be someone who goes after Obama so hard that it almost seems personal. His shameful record, his broken promises, his constant buckpassing, and his aloofness when leadership is needed most in the country. All those things need to be hammered at ad nauseum leading up to next November. And you can’t do that effectively by playing nice.

Doughboy on April 10, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Totally agree. That last video with Trump demonstrates how well he holds his own against the media. He does not let anybody put him on the defensive, interrupt him or twist the meaning of his words. Anyone who goes up against the media in 2012 (because that is really who your fighting) has to be this aggressive.

KickandSwimMom on April 10, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Rubio wanted troops on the ground in Libya. The kid needs to grow up. He’s way too smug for his age too.

Early ‘glory’ has already ruined what was great potential.

Schadenfreude on April 10, 2011 at 9:18 PM

TheBigOldDog on April 10, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Trump is using the right for chumps and nothing else.
I do not trust him no matter how many ‘good points’ he raises.

darwin-t on April 10, 2011 at 9:19 PM

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