Poll: Who was the budget battle’s biggest loser?

posted at 3:00 pm on April 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

I suspect that this will be a topic that will be endlessly debated, or at least until the budget debates for FY2012 and entitlement reform begin in earnest.  Rather than decide who the biggest winner is, it’s probably easier to focus on who lost more in this debate and its eventual settlement.  Before I offer the poll, I’ll walk through some of the options and the arguments for and against each:

  • John Boehner — Plenty of people have already expressed anger over his dealmaking, and it remains to be seen whether his caucus will reward or punish him for the budget compromise.  As I’ve argued here and here today, Boehner got quite a bit more than seemed possible at the start of the year, considering that the GOP only controlled one chamber of Congress.  He also forced Harry Reid and Barack Obama to re-open the DC school voucher program, a small but important pushback on educational reform.  He didn’t get the $100 billion in cuts he promised or the $61 billion the House passed, but the House isn’t going to get everything it wants in the 112th Session of Congress, either.  He got a budget passed on his terms — cuts — which is more than can be said for …
  • Nancy Pelosi — The former Speaker wasn’t even around for the budget compromise.  She was in Boston, talking about how great she was as Speaker when, er, her party wouldn’t pass a budget despite having a 77-seat majority and full control of Washington.  In the House, the minority is largely irrelevant, so Pelosi didn’t have much to lose except her reputation.  Boehner’s ability to close a deal while making her just a voice in the peanut gallery on what was supposed to be her budget did about as much damage to that reputation as possible.  Democrats angry over the cuts only have Pelosi to blame for not producing a budget.
  • The Tea Party — We’ll hear that compromise by Boehner is some sort of rebuke to the Tea Party from the media, a meme that will gain some traction as Tea Party favorites in Boehner’s caucus publicly criticize the deal.  But it’s hard to see how the Tea Party lost at all.  At stake in these negotiations was the remainder of non-security discretionary spending in the FY2011 budget, which amounted to somewhere short of $230 billion (the Tea Party pushed to protect defense and security spending).  On that playing field, Boehner cut almost $40 billion, or over 17% of the available pool left.  He was able to do that because the Tea Party changed the political paradigm in Washington from making slight adjustments to the rate of increase in spending to actual cuts in spending.  That paradigm will continue and strengthen now that Boehner proved that cuts are actually possible — and politically beneficial.
  • Barack Obama — After months of irrelevancy, supposedly deliberate, Obama sailed in at the last minute to cut a deal with Boehner.  That will earn him praise from the usual media suspects, but voters are going to wonder what took him so long.  The budget was due last September, and we have been running on a series of several continuing resolutions.  Why did Obama wait to get involved until more than halfway into the fiscal year?  More to the point, why is he cutting deals with Republicans now when he could have gotten a much better deal from Democrats in 2010?  Only a loser waits until he has no leverage, which brings us to …
  • Harry Reid — As I pointed out yesterday, Reid could have passed a budget months ago.  He may not have been able to act in the absence of a House bill, thanks to Pelosi’s abdication of responsibilities, but the Senate could have passed a response to HR1 earlier this year.  That would have forced a conference committee, where Reid could have exercised his influence to the highest degree to get a deal he wanted.  Instead, Reid punted.  That put Obama in position to do his 11th-hour swoop and take credit for the eventual budget agreement.  Reid made himself irrelevant, as opposed to Pelosi’s operational irrelevancy.  In the end, Reid was a bystander; Boehner entirely bypassed him and forced Obama to negotiate with him as an equal, a result that raises Boehner’s stature at the expense of Obama and especially Reid.  Boehner even strongarmed Reid into giving the Speaker control of the Senate floor with the agreement to hold votes on ObamaCare repeal and Planned Parenthood defunding.

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List of issues hidden to re(s)elect the POS

1 – IRS report (targeting began in 2009)
2 – Bengahazi accounting
3 – Reid getting Romney’s tax info
4 – Proof the POS got on Indiana ballots illegally – jury came to that conclusion a couple of months ago.
5 – Rosen and FOX wiretaps (began in 2009)

wyntre9 on May 22, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Add to that, No vetting of Obama by the LSM…ever.

kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Corruption? Provable corruption?!? Now can I get a check too?

I’m tired of being the check writer.

Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Why are you trying to politicize this thing? It merely took a year to properly select and vet the person who would ask the question at the ABA meeting – which is the proper venue for such revelations.

Also, the IRS leadership was actively searching for the culprit at root cause of all this – Mr./Ms I Don’t Know. We have heard in testimony from a wide variety of Administration employees that this person – I Don’t Know – is at fault. Perhaps a BOLO should be issued for I Don’t Know and have their azz hauled before one of the Congressional committees to explain their behavior.

in_awe on May 22, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Guys, you over-estimate HAL.

He’d be up against the wall, screaming “But I’m one of you! Not them! I don’t belong here!”

The fate of most useful idiots.

The_Livewire on May 22, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

The funny thing is, you think you’re a member of the protected class. Judging by your lack of sophistication, you’re definitely not one of the special people, just another fellow traveler. And they are always the first sacrificed by the ‘elite’.

Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Corruption? Provable corruption?!? Now can I get a check too?

I’m tired of being the check writer.

Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Great point, can all of us conservatives who paid taxes while this abuse was going on get our taxes back? That would be a heck of a class action lawsuit.

theCork on May 22, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Releasing the report in September might have got in the way of stealing the presidential election of 2012!

Priorities people, priorities!

slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Yup. And he WON which is all that counts in my book.

HotAirLib on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Nixon won also with a much bigger mandate (49 states) than Obama ever dreamed of. That didn’t stop your side from going after him did it.

chemman on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Problem is the Constitution makes the standard for impeachment to be the commission of “high crimes and misdemeanors”. I don’e see incompetence meeting that standard.

You don’t see arming Mexican Drug Cartels and the 300+ citizens (and counting) to include 1 U.S. BPA, killed with those weapons & the follow-on cover up as a case of “high crimes and misdemeanors”?

You don’t see asking Al Qaeda, the perpetrators of 9/11, to protect our US Ambassador, refusing to provide security, ordering a rescue team to stand down thereby abandoning Americans fighting for their lives to die, then lying & covering up to hide their ‘incompetence’ a case of “high crimes and misdemeanors”?

You don’t call a complete lack of control resulting in Constitutional Violations and broken laws through an abuse of power & mis-use of govt agencies (IRS & DOJ) to target Americans & the medai a case of “high crimes and misdemeanors”?

There comes a point where even ‘stupidity’ reaches the level of ‘CRIMINAL’ and a ‘THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY’.

That being said, this is NOT a case of igorance or stupidity – this is an arrogant, narcissistic man tutored by Communists, mentored by racists hate-spewing Anti-Americans, spoiled by the media his 1st term that has flaunted his lack of concern for both the Rule of Law and the Constitution, giving them both a back seat to his agenda. He, like every other Liberal and certainly every politician in Washington, believes he is above both the very laws they pass for us as well as the Constitutional they (Liberals/Socialists) call ‘outdated’!

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

(The reason I listed all those issues is because according to the WH these were all cases of ‘I don’t know / Wasn’t me’ incompetence.)

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Follow the UNIONS!!!!

All these agency’s staff are exchanging target information through their Union shop stewards.

barnone on May 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

REPORT: Man behind IRS probe dated Michelle Obama in college…

THERE IS NO ‘THERE’ THERE, PEOPLE!

(Poor b@stard!)

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

(Poor b@stard!)

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Seriously. I don’t think I could get that drunk.

CurtZHP on May 22, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Miller:
“I personally conducted an investigation into the IRS issue. Who did the teargeting’? I object to the term ‘targeting’. Schulman said to you that none of this was going on…did he lie? While what he said was wrong, he did not lie. Does Congress deserve to know what was going on? I anwered the questions that you asked truthfully, do not feel obligated to tell you about problems going on, and I thought you would find out the same way Obama finds out everything – through the news. What am I going to do to ensure this doesn’t happen again and what will I do to those who carried this out? Nothing – I leave at the end of June…not my problem.

The IG donated to the Obama campaign.

The man behind the IRS probe (No, not Miller) dated Michelle in college…

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Now WHY in the world would anyone an Independent Investigatice Counsel to step in and investigate these scandals when the DOJ & Obama administration can easily do an INTERNAL investigation themselves?!

(Ummm, part of the administration’s/Holder’s/IRS/DOJ argument is that these scandals happened becasue they were/are so incompetent/disorganized/ignorant….but then try to convince us that no Independent Counsel is needed to come in and investigate because they are competent enough to do that themselves?! What the …)

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 3:58 PM

(Meanwhile, quietly being reported in the back pages of newspapers:

‘Fed chairman warns ending stimulus would carry substantial risks…’

‘Bernanke Has Now Injected Foreign Banks With Over $1 Trillion In Cash… ‘

– ‘Ending STIMULUS’? I thought we HAD ended ‘stimuls’ spending?!

– That would be $1 Trillion in BORROWED tax payer dollars going OUT of the United States

easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Drudge has a link to a story that The IG used to date Michelle Obama??

huh?

workingclass artist on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM

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