Report: Dems, GOP may pass three-day or seven-day budget resolution to keep talks going; Update: Deal reached on policy riders?

posted at 7:42 pm on April 8, 2011 by Allahpundit

So let’s see. The Democrats wouldn’t pass a budget for the entire fiscal year when they controlled Congress because, well, they’re gutless and didn’t want another tough vote before the midterms. Then the House GOP took over and tried to pass one for what remained of the fiscal year, but Reid blocked it in the Senate because $61 billion is apparently an insane amount to cut when we’re racking up $50 billion in new deficits each week. So then both sides further downscaled and passed a couple of three-week stopgap budgets to keep the government running while they negotiated. Now they’re downscaling further still to three-day stopgaps, again to enable negotiations. By next week, they’re going to be passing three-hour budgets, aren’t they?

From CNN Senior White House Correspondent Ed Henry:

A senior Democratic source told CNN negotiators are now focusing on a proposal to keep the government open for three days while leaders try to finish a broader budget deal this weekend as a last-ditch effort to stave off a crisis.

The proposal would not include any controversial legislative riders on controversial topics like abortion, but the Democratic source cautioned it is not clear the plan can pass the House and Senate by the midnight deadline to keep the government running.

It is, however, important to note that the White House on Thursday said President Obama could sign another short-term continuing resolution if broader negotiations were making progress.

Henry later tweeted that GOP sources say a new seven-day stopgap is more likely. But what if they don’t pass it by the morning? Does that mean we’ll have to do without the cherry-blossom festival? (Answer: No.) In fact, according to WaPo, the White House has a few budgetary tricks it can use to keep things running on a very short-term basis while Reid and Boehner agree on a final face-saving compromise. Quote:

The White House, in fact, could use obscure rules to keep the government running into Saturday. A senior government official said it could only do that if the administration has “a high level of confidence” that the House and Senate were on the verge of passing a short-term or permanent spending bill and President Obama could sign it by the end of the day Saturday.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, declined to define exactly what constituted a “high level” of confidence, and said the White House is hoping not to use this option.

The other option is for Congress to simply give itself more time.

Apparently, Boehner prepared for a short-term budget to pass tonight (just in case) by taking care of some of the procedural prerequisites yesterday. The only potential hitch is in the Senate, which would need unanimous consent to skip its own procedures and vote on a House budget right away. If even a single senator objects, that would grind the process to a halt. Anyone willing to do that and risk forever being dubbed Senator Shutdown? DeMint? Paul? Anyone?

Here’s Charlie Rangel on last night’s “Factor” admitting that Pelosi’s Congress didn’t pass a budget last year because it was a “hot potato,” which is Rangel-speak for “we’re gutless.” As I write this, NBC is reporting that Reid’s and Boehner’s standoff over the Planned Parenthood rider may have finally been resolved, which I guess means that the GOP’s prepared to drop it. Stay tuned. Exit quotation: “Republicans make it clear that they will revisit the issue soon, perhaps when the even larger battle on raising the debt limit – expected in the coming weeks – is joined.”


Update: Politico’s hearing the same thing as NBC. They’re still haggling over cuts, but it sounds like there’s consensus on the Planned Parenthood and NPR red meat:

Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives — such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding — may be offered as a concession.

Asked whether he was optimistic friday night, Speaker John Boehner said, “you know me, I was born with the glass half full.”


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This better be one hell of a head fake GOP.

Fund the military and shut it down!

MadDogF on April 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM

I am shocked that Boehner hasn’t caved already.

Stay strong Boehner. You might have a spine after all.

portlandon on April 8, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Since when in hell are budgets hot potatoes? You had a filibuster proof majority in the Senate (and you can’t filibuster budget issues) and a supermajority in the House. They abdicated their responsibilities.

rbj on April 8, 2011 at 7:46 PM

From Bastogne,the Battle of the Budget,er,Bulge!

************************** NUTS ***************************

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut,Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut,Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut,Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut, Cut.

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Just shut it down… Then go to Williamsburg like the Obama family…

Khun Joe on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

As I write this, NBC is reporting that Reid’s and Boehner’s standoff over the Planned Parenthood rider may have finally been resolved, which I guess means that the GOP’s prepared to drop it.

Too bad but there will be other days.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

This should be interesting. Fifty-two one week budgets, each funding only the military and a VERY few select agencies would be fine by me. Oh, yeah, and let me help pick the agencies.

Robert17 on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Let’s see.

How about a mass of military spouses on the senate and house steps?

upinak on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Please don’t shut down the government.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m still pretty steamed about the state of government…

But I still gotta eat.

Sgt Steve on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

UghaFreagginRoo,the Libs are playing games,
and are gameing Team Right!!!

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Khun Joe on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

The Husband thought he canceled the trip, is it still on?

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

Too bad but there will be other days.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:47 PM

OC has tear running down the cheek over the continued funding of the Slaughter of the Innocents…

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM

Am I the only one who’s sick and tired of these games?

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 7:51 PM

hmmmmmm so dear leader insisted he wouldn’t sign another short term CR but now it’s ok….

flip flop

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 7:51 PM

We already passed a CR. Is there some sort of coup inside the R Party?

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 7:51 PM

MadDogF on April 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM

This

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 7:52 PM

“Republicans make it clear that they will revisit the issue soon, perhaps when the even larger battle on raising the debt limit – expected in the coming weeks – is joined.”

i wonder….

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 7:53 PM

what???? the gop is not making pp the issue…the dems are making it an issue…

get it straight CNN…

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 7:54 PM

SHUT IT DOWN!

GarandFan on April 8, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Let’s see.

How about a mass of military spouses on the senate and house steps?

upinak on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

upinak:Now your cooking with the gas,oh,and bring your
garbage too!:)
==========================

Democratic Activists Plan Protest to Dump Trash at Boehner’s Home Saturday
April 8 2011
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*****************

Confronted with the possibility of a shutdown in basic services, a group of Facebook users in Washington, D.C., wants to take its aggression out on House Speaker John Boehner — playing a dirty trick to make the point.

Democratic activists, angry that Washington residents pay taxes but have no voting representation in Congress, have set up a Facebook page to urge protesters to dump their trash outside Boehner’s home if the government shuts down Friday night.

“Speaker John Boehner is ready to shut down the government, including DC city services like trash collection. Well, if he won’t allow us to use OUR TAX DOLLARS to pick it up, maybe we should just BRING IT TO HIM,” the Facebook page says.(More……..)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/08/democratic-activists-plan-protest-dump-trash-boehners-home-saturday/

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Fund the military and shut it down!

MadDogF on April 8, 2011 at 7:45 PM

+7%…!

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 7:56 PM

This is sounding like the Isreal/Platestian Peace Talks!!

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Cindy Munford,

Your husband is right. The Hawaiian Cretin has cancelled his vacation. I think that is a pretty good indicator there is no deal.

Link:

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0411/obama_cancels_trip_to_williamsburg_8bbd8ebe-662b-4543-8335-62ddcbb201bf.html

More directly to the topic:

I am praying the Republicans stand strong on this.

Shogun144 on April 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM

How many minutes left till the US craters? I want to throw up with you all, every one of those in dc. You want our money, you want our votes and you act like some spoiled brat that isn’t gettting their way? God Please help us, please. Think about this next election people.
L

letget on April 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM

OmahaConservative on April 8, 2011 at 7:50 PM

I hate it to but from another thread it would appear that the only thing the defunding was doing was to paint social conservatives as the worse people in the world. And that was by Republicans. The boat must not be rocked it’s all about money. Which obviously it still would be but some money is different than other. So once this works, here come all the talking points from Dems about the people Republicans will be killing with cuts.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM

Am I the only one who’s sick and tired of these games?

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 7:51 PM

Knucklehead:No,Libs love drama!:)

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM

I am praying the Republicans stand strong on this.

Shogun144 on April 8, 2011 at 7:57 PM

I’m pretty sure about the money, nothing else. What a trooper The Won is.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:48 PM

he canceled the vacay

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 7:59 PM

Anyone willing to do that and risk forever being dubbed Senator Shutdown? DeMint? Paul? Anyone?

Oh god. Rand, maybe. He IS a Paul. There’s at least a LITTLE crazy in him, no matter how well-intentioned he is otherwise (cutting aid to Israel notwithstanding).

Vyce on April 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM

All this work will keep congressmen from Jepordy.

Limerick on April 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM

No compromise.

If it were the Dems show, they wouldn’t.

SlaveDog on April 8, 2011 at 8:03 PM

s I write this, NBC is reporting that Reid’s and Boehner’s standoff over the Planned Parenthood rider may have finally been resolved, which I guess means that the GOP’s prepared to drop it.

Damn right they’re dropping it … because they’re wimps. They got Harry Reid out there WINNING THE FIGHT against Boehner while Louise Slaughter says they’re out to KILL WOMEN!

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY – JUST CALL ‘EM NAMES AND WATCH ‘EM FOLD!

If Boehner doesn’t get the full $61B now – our chances are SUNK in 2012.

HondaV65 on April 8, 2011 at 8:04 PM

If these clowns can’t pass a budget, cut spending and get the house in order, shouldn’t we demand that they cannot vote their pay increases? Yes, I know it would be difficult to achieve, however it seems the time has come. Sounds like a good Tea Party project to me.

Cody1991 on April 8, 2011 at 8:04 PM

You know…

It’s at times like these that everyone needs to remember this glorious day.

/

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Why do I get the feeling this is a kind of desperate tantrum on the Dem’s part because they got out snookered in MI?

golfmann on April 8, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives — such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding — may be offered as a concession.

cripe…

the cave has begun…

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives — such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding — may be offered as a concession.

Caved again. These standalone bills will die in the Senate, and they all know it.

Wethal on April 8, 2011 at 8:07 PM

SlaveDog on April 8, 2011 at 8:03 PM

exactamundo

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives — such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding — may be offered as a concession.

Thank God, those nasty social conservatives have lost again!

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Ya better hang tough Bohener, or you’ll have an awful lot to answer for..

(LOL Mark Levin was just ragging on Allah for his squish, unprinciled mentality).

Tim_CA on April 8, 2011 at 8:08 PM

All this work will keep congressmen from Jepordy.

Limerick on April 8, 2011 at 8:02 PM

Watson would have figured out an acceptable budget by now, that’s for sure.

Vyce on April 8, 2011 at 8:08 PM

unprincipled

Tim_CA on April 8, 2011 at 8:09 PM

Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives — such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding — may be offered as a concession.

If they can do a standalone vote for Planned Parenthood then why don’t the stupid fools do that for the Military Pay issue?

Force the Democrats to fund the military pay for the year or vote against it. That takes it off the table. Then shut it down if that is what the Democrats want.

sharrukin on April 8, 2011 at 8:09 PM

passing three-hour budgets

Give them time and they will spend what is spent in 3 days in 3 hours. And still say people will die if they cut 25 cents.

tjexcite on April 8, 2011 at 8:10 PM

If they can do a standalone vote for Planned Parenthood then why don’t the stupid fools do that for the Military Pay issue?

Force the Democrats to fund the military pay for the year or vote against it. That takes it off the table. Then shut it down if that is what the Democrats want.

sharrukin

That’s a good question.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:10 PM

It made me nostalgic to see Charlie Rangel.

So soon the legends disappear.

I thought he was either dead or in Federal prison. Anyway, he’s the traditional kind of Democrat we’ve come to love – comical, camera mugging, malaprop spouting, strutting, race baiting, criminal, Mystic Knights of the Sea lodge member, and a guy with both hands in the till up way beyond the wrists.

The current resurgent Democrat group certainly has those traditional traits but adds a strong element of baby killing. Now, I’m sure Charlie is for that as well but it’s an oddly two edged sword in a district that is becoming irrelevant because his constituency is killing its pre-born children at a monstrous rate.

Perhaps the movie had it right, “Good bye, Charlie”.

Your people have disappeared.

Mason on April 8, 2011 at 8:12 PM

catch y’all on the flip side…

cmsinaz on April 8, 2011 at 8:12 PM

My son is in the military and until their pay is safe, I am not fore shutting them down for PP. Sorry. Our miliary have their lives on the line, and they have families to worry about when they should more important things on their minds than if their kids get fed.

Fight PP on another day. Until their is an agreeable POTUS, this fight won’t be won in any case. Idealists must face reality.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Jeebus, sorry for the spelling erros. I am emotional about this.

Fund the military at all costs!

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Wow, its getting late.

Almost cave-thirty.

artist on April 8, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Anyone willing to do that and risk forever being dubbed Senator Shutdown? DeMint? Paul? Anyone?

Gawd, I hope not but if any hints about their mood can be gleaned from some commenters here at Hot Air, it wouldn’t surprise me.

Buy Danish on April 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM

Update: Politico’s hearing the same thing as NBC. They’re still haggling over cuts, but it sounds like there’s consensus on the Planned Parenthood and NPR red meat…

If true, then the Democrats have won…

… and all their lies that they have been screeching will be seen as truths.

What do you think is going to happen when the 2012 budget is brought up…

… play nice?

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 8:15 PM

So our “deal” is to abandon the policy riders, setting us up for a vote we’ll easily lose? Wow. What a bargain.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:18 PM

The entire GOP House Leadership is a BAD JOKE!!

God save the Republic………because apparently we can’t.

PappyD61 on April 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Update: Politico’s hearing the same thing as NBC. They’re still haggling over cuts, but it sounds like there’s consensus on the Planned Parenthood and NPR red meat…

Time for a third party? They caved again and evidently didn’t hear us last November.

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Well, in the GOP’s defense, they were called both racist and misogynist, so the Libs were being really mean. Next thing you know, they were going to be telling the GOP that they weren’t invited to Amber’s birthday party. And this was the year when they really hoped they’d become more popular and everything.

cynccook on April 8, 2011 at 8:20 PM

If true and we didn’t get a bunch more cuts in exchange, it’s unacceptable. Totally unacceptable.

Because then we’re not just abandoning the policy riders. We’re effectively caving to Democratic demands, full stop.

Screw that. We didn’t get 3 hours from a shutdown to suddenly decide to collapse.

If this is the best deal Boehner could work out, it’s time for him to give up the speaker post. Let Paul Ryan or someone else take the post.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:20 PM

A “shutdown” is merely a “slowdown.” The media are deliberately misportraying this impasse.
Government-Shutdown-101-A-Slowdown-Not-a-Shutdown

onlineanalyst on April 8, 2011 at 8:21 PM

I hate it to but from another thread it would appear that the only thing the defunding was doing was to paint social conservatives as the worse people in the world. And that was by Republicans. The boat must not be rocked it’s all about money. Which obviously it still would be but some money is different than other. So once this works, here come all the talking points from Dems about the people Republicans will be killing with cuts.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM

How about a “THIS IS WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD LOOKS LIKE” Rally. With graphics.

Naturally Curly on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Does this mean I won’t pay any federal taxes on income and fuel if theres a shutdown? IRS is nonessential isn’t it?

maineconservative on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Here it is:

Numerous GOP and Democratic sources on and off Capitol Hill tell National Journal that the outline of the deal is as follows: up to $39 billion in cuts from the 2010 budget, $514 billion for the defense budget covering the remainder of this fiscal year, a GOP agreement to abandon controversial policy riders dealing with Planned Parenthood and the EPA, and an agreement to pass a “bridge” continuing resolution tonight to keep the government operating while the deal is written in bill form.

About a third of our original cuts and none of the policy riders. We gave up far more than the Democrats. We basically caved.

If true, it’s time for Boehner to resign. We have many tough fights ahead and can’t afford wimps in control.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Bah. I say take the rider out, but don’t make it a standalone.

Get the DOD budget and troop pay first.

Them smash them with the rider next week. when they don’t have armed servicemen to bargain with.

BKennedy on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Sarah Palin: Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep ….

idesign on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

And I say this as a person who hates Planned Parenthood and their exploitation of minors and downright criminal enterprise to the core. That is the lot you are dealing with.

BKennedy on April 8, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Ah, Houston….T-Minus 3 and half hours till…..

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I don’t give a damn about PP. Fund the military.

Y’all need to get a damn grip. Until you have a GOP president and over 51 votes in Senate and control the House, you aren’t going to get your way on social issues. Grow up and accept reality. If you hold out for that wish, you will lose all fiscal and judicial issues.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:24 PM

from The Heritage Foundation:

Six months into the 2011 fiscal year, the federal government has yet to pass a budget. This week the impasse over spending for 2011 came to a head: without a new spending authorization, the federal government will “shut down” at midnight.

Liberals and the media have offered doomsday predictions about the consequences of a government shutdown. But The Heritage Foundation has researched what a shutdown would mean for average Americans.

A Heritage Factsheet explains what a shutdown really means:

The term “shutdown” substantially overstates the matter. Even if Congress and the President fail to reach agreement, the most essential services continue, such as: (1) providing for national security, (2) conducting foreign affairs, (3) providing for the continuity of mandatory benefit payments, and (4) protecting life and property. These services include military, law enforcement, VA care, and others. Social Security checks are still mailed.

While President Obama blames the possibility of a shutdown on lawmakers not acting “like grownups,” conservatives know better. Heritage’s Brian Darling pinpoints the real culprits: big-government liberals.

Federal spending is out of control, and soaring federal debt poses an immediate threat to the nation’s economic future. The House of Representatives has already acted and passed a spending measure to fund the government and make important cuts. The ball is now in the Senate’s court. President Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) must now move the process forward in order to avoid a shutdown.

Listen on myHeritage as Heritage’s Ernest Istook, a former congressman, comments on the possible upcoming government shutdown. Tell us in the comments: What do you prefer? A government shutdown or a compromise?

onlineanalyst on April 8, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Sarah Palin: Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep ….

idesign on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

idesign:Correct!
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Sarah Palin Suggests Things Might Have Been Better For GOP Had She Been On Top Of Ticket In ‘08
3:56 pm, March 19th, 2011
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“Too often, Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep sometimes,” she said. When it comes to correcting the record, “I will put my foot down.”

(More……….)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sarah-palin-suggests-things-might-have-been-better-for-gop-had-she-been-on-top-of-ticket-in-08/

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Naturally Curly on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

I feel the immediate curtailing of free speech coming on.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 8:28 PM

About a third of our original cuts and none of the policy riders. We gave up far more than the Democrats. We basically caved.

If true, it’s time for Boehner to resign. We have many tough fights ahead and can’t afford wimps in control.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:22 PM

OMG!!!! We only hold less than 1/3 of government and we should have total control!!!!!!

Hold out for your policy riders and screw the military!!! Awesome leadership!!

You idiots need to accept until you have the House and either a veto proof Senate OR POTUS, you won’t get anything done. Jeebus but you are dreamers.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Deal ‘Very Close’

April 8, 2011 8:20 P.M. By Andrew Stiles
UPDATE (8:13 p.m.): A Republican aide tells NRO a spending deal is “very close.” House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio) tells anxious reporters he is “optimistic.” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) was scheduled to speak on the Senate floor at 8:00 p.m., but that’s been pushed back an hour. And Politico is now reporting that an agreement has been reached on policy riders, while discussions continue on on a final number of spending cuts.

UPDATE (8:18): Rep. David Dreier (R., Calif.), chairman of the House Rules Committee, all but admits that a deal is imminent. “Yeah, it sure looks that way,” he said.

NRO

Wethal on April 8, 2011 at 8:30 PM

the Democrats say: “Give us unfettered government paid abortions or we stop paying the military“…and they are REWARDED for it???

Rewarded???

Dear God, we have NO Republican leadership.

Justrand on April 8, 2011 at 8:31 PM

If true, it’s time for Boehner to resign. We have many tough fights ahead and can’t afford wimps in control.

amerpundit

That’s a ridiculous statement. This is a skirmish and ladyingray is right ~ we do NOT hold both houses of Congress and Obama threatened a veto before Boehner’s ink was even dry on the CR proposal. Fund the troops. Go to the mattresses over the 2012 budget, which the Republicans WILL own, not this leftover Democratic pile of sh!t.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:31 PM

I feel the immediate curtailing of free speech coming on.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 8:28 PM

They’ll have to kill me to shut me up. You too, I suspect. And we may take a few of them with us.

Naturally Curly on April 8, 2011 at 8:33 PM

By the way, lady, Chuck Todd is reporting a deal is imminent. We’ll see. My son had a shutdown cook-out at Davis-Monthan today with his squadron mates. They’re all snortin’ fire.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I wonder why no one has brought this up yet…?

Nearly All Senate Democrats Have Voted For Bills Containing A D.C. Abortion Funding Ban, But Would Rather Shut Down The Government Than Vote For It Again
Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Democrats are allowed to be for things before they’re against them, and vice versa.

Wethal on April 8, 2011 at 8:34 PM

That’s a ridiculous statement. This is a skirmish and ladyingray is right ~ we do NOT hold both houses of Congress and Obama threatened a veto before Boehner’s ink was even dry on the CR proposal. Fund the troops. Go to the mattresses over the 2012 budget, which the Republicans WILL own, not this leftover Democratic pile of sh!t.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:31 PM

So rather than making Obama veto a bipartisan resolution and Reid block the same, making them take the fall because Americans will see they had the opportunity to stop a shutdown but decided to place PP funding first…

you’ve given them the opportunity to claim victory and for Obama to claim he negotiated the agreement and this is the change he was talking about bringing — bipartisanship.

Yeah, no, we totally have a stronger hand now.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:35 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Ancient history.The immediate fight is funding the miliary, who are sacrificing their lives for all of us. THAT should be a stand alone bill and let Reid and obaka oppose it to their detriment.

We can defund abortion on an another day.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Well if the number that was just rumored is 38 billion and no de-funding of PP that is an epic fail in my book.

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:40 PM

amerpundit

Nobody is coming out of THIS clusterfark smelling like a rose, my friend. Not Vacation Boy, not Dirty Harry ~ nobody. And they all know it.

Right now, CNN’s “reporting that GOP source is saying that are “very close” to a one week CR and are close to a final deal as well.”

Everybody’s desperately trying to save face. Boehner’s done a fine job under the circumstances (NOT having the Seante and Obama’s veto ~ he can’t just wave a wand) and the Ryan plan is the bigger fish to fry. If it’s true there’s a week CR in the works, you have no idea what he got for that either.

Pay the troops.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Isn’t it amazing how much energy, time, and money have been channeled into this disgusting soap opera for so little real gain? Drama and spotlights for pennies on the dollar in the big picture. No damn wonder politicians are a hated species.

a capella on April 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Well if the number that was just rumored is 38 billion and no de-funding of PP that is an epic fail in my book.

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Bbbbbut…we got another billion! And our hand is totally made stronger by the fact that we capitulated! It’s the Neville Chamberlain School of Government.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

Naturally Curly on April 8, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I’m not feeling too deadly right now.

Cindy Munford on April 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

If we can’t win this little battle how are we going to win the war?

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:43 PM

We can defund abortion on an another day.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM

I agree, funding the Military is Job #1…

… but a whole day goes by and not a single GOP member of Congress can get in front of a camera and ask:

“What the he%l are they complaining about?”

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 8:46 PM

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:41 PM

The Ryan bill itslef is dead until 2013 at the earliest. Let’s be clear about that.

If we can’t win a concession on policy riders and $39 billion, we’re not going to win concessions on reforming entitlement programs and trillions in cuts.

This was nothing compared to what we’ll face pushing the Ryan budget. And if you’re under the impression that Boehner is going to fall on that sword either, you’re mistaken. He’ll cut a crappy deal for a fraction of what’s needed and Obama/Reid will take credit.

It’s a shadow of things to come.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:47 PM

If we can’t win this little battle how are we going to win the war?

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:43 PM

But don’t you see? Boehner folding on $39 billion means he can dedicate his time to being politically destroyed over $6 trillion.

Or something.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:50 PM

But don’t you see? Boehner folding on $39 billion means he can dedicate his time to being politically destroyed over $6 trillion.

Or something.

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:50 PM

My expectations exactly!

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:51 PM

ladyingray,

I agree that giving up on the riders in no a big deal.

However, when the 2012 budget comes up (in May?), we will still only control 1/3 of the government. So, how do we win that fight when we can’t win this fight (according to you)?

mockmook on April 8, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Update: Politico’s hearing the same thing as NBC. They’re still haggling over cuts, but it sounds like there’s consensus on the Planned Parenthood and NPR red meat:

…Asked whether he was optimistic friday night, Speaker John Boehner said, “you know me, I was born with the glass half full.”

Born? Good thing the government wasn’t pushing abortions back then.

forest on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Go to the mattresses over the 2012 budget, which the Republicans WILL own, not this leftover Democratic pile of sh!t.

tree hugging sister on April 8, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Until they cave… which they will…

I seem to remember that there was a promise to cut 100billion, then it became 62 billion, then 38 billion… Cave.

As for the PP issue, here’s an idea… 100 mil to public health centers for “women’s cancer screening” 560 million of additional budget cuts. How’s that for a counter offer.

GOP needs to pound the PP hearts child rapist meme.

They also need to remind the “folks” they have passed a bill, they have passed a CR. The Senate needs to vote, up or down and take responsibility for their votes in the Senate.

Now may be the time for the House Repubs to do the “courageous” thing and head to Illinois.

kringeesmom on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Just caught Rand Paul on Hannity, he rocks!!!!

kringeesmom on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

No big deal? Please the GOp just disarmed and will be turing their arms into plows shotly. a bunch of wimps. I’m glad Palin stood strong.

unseen on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

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canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 9:29 PM

“Democrats want to kill our Military!”

Seven Percent Solution on April 8, 2011 at 10:14 PM

We just got rolled. The ‘riders’ including defunding Ocare and PP got pulled and will be voted on separately in the Senate where we all know they will die. Boehner just lost any leverage he had to get those things defunded. Our dear leader held the military hostage to keep spending the country into oblivion.

Kissmygrits on April 8, 2011 at 11:18 PM

The Republicans need new leadership: Boehner is a SUCKER!!!!

Talk about snatching Defeat out of the jaws of Victory!!!…Boehner gave away a “free Continuing Resolution,” and gets NOTHING in return!!!

Does Boehner actually believe that the “agreements” he negotiated will ever be implemented???? Why should the Democrats give away anything: they can kick the can down the road indefinitely…by promising the moon, and then delay, delay, delay!!! This story is right out of the “tactics of Tip ONeal” playbook!!!

We need negotiators who can handle the liars across the table, and who will stand up for America!!!

landlines on April 9, 2011 at 2:51 AM