Report: Budget agreement for $39 billion in cuts may be imminent; Update: Sources tell ABC deal is done; Update: “This is the best deal we could get out of them”; Update: No funding for abortion in D.C.

posted at 8:50 pm on April 8, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s not a Democratic ploy, either. House Republican sources, including David Dreier, are telling NRO that it looks like a done deal. No surprise, given the reports about the red-meat wrinkles having been ironed out.

Fox News says Reid’s set to speak on the Senate floor soon. Presumably all that’s left is for each side to sign off on the final terms and then he’ll make the announcement. Total cuts: $39 billion, which is a bit higher than what Boehner (allegedly) asked for initially. As expected, he traded concessions on Planned Parenthood for deeper cuts.

The likelihood of a war-time federal government shutdown—the first in American history—diminished dramatically on Friday night as all parties began reviewing, with the goal of approving, a broad array of cuts and a short-term bill to keep the government operating while the details are put into legislative language for full congressional action next week.

While leadership staff insist there is no deal yet, that caution belies significant progress in narrowing long-standing differences and the widening assumption in both parties that a shutdown will be averted and all that remains unknown is the precise procedural steps that will walk everyone back from the abyss.

Numerous GOP and Democratic sources on and off Capitol Hill tell National Journal that the outline of the deal is as follows: up to $39 billion in cuts from the 2010 budget, $514 billion for the defense budget covering the remainder of this fiscal year, a GOP agreement to abandon controversial policy riders dealing with Planned Parenthood and the EPA, and an agreement to pass a “bridge” continuing resolution tonight to keep the government operating while the deal is written in bill form…

Republicans do not want any agreement framework to surface before a conference meeting this evening. And a Senate Democratic aide that side is wary that opposition House conservatives will still scuttle a deal.

They probably can’t pass the full 2011 budget before midnight, so the plan is to have an agreement in principle on that and instead pass the three- or seven-day stopgap tonight. The vote on funding the government for the rest of the year will come early next week, and then we’ll move on to the debt ceiling debate, followed by the endless war over Paul Ryan’s 2012 budget. How excited are you?

As for that boldfaced part, it’d be insane for Republicans to be telling reporters that a deal is imminent if they weren’t sure yet that the conference (or most of the conference) will sign onto it. They’d be gift-wrapping a “social conservatives forced a shutdown!” narrative for the media — which, perhaps, explains why they were sending out e-mails to reporters as of 10 minutes ago insisting that nothing has been agreed to yet. Reid should be speaking at 9 p.m. ET or a bit later. Stand by for updates.

Update: Boehner’s going to hear it from fiscal cons unhappy with the amount of cuts and from social cons unhappy with the Planned Parenthood provisions being dropped, but he’s hearing it from Allen West for a third reason — playing politics with troop funding in yesterday’s proposed one-week stopgap budget.

“The House Majority has now placed the funding for the Department of Defense and the funding for the troops down as a bargaining chip,” he writes. “In the last 100 days, the House Majority could have passed at any point in time a separate stand alone Appropriations for the Department of Defense and the funding for our men and women in uniform.”

West then added that he is “disgusted” by the perception that troops are being used to pass the short-term budget bill.

“I voted for the Department of Defense Appropriation bill because, at this moment in time, due to the complete failure by the Democrat Majority in the Senate this is currently the only vehicle on the table,” he writes. “But more importantly, my ‘Yes’ vote today was for my Brothers and Sisters in uniform. My ‘No’ sentiment reflects a disappointment in my own leadership.”

I’ve been under the assumption all day that if talks break down and the shutdown cometh, Reid and Boehner will at least pass a stopgap funding bill for military personnel. The idea of U.S. troops not getting paid while in the field is repulsive; according to the Journal, families of troops killed in action would also suffer as death benefits are temporarily stopped. As I write this, Kay Bailey Hutchison is on the Senate floor demanding a troop-funding measure. We’ll see that happen, at least, before midnight. I hope.

Update: Maybe this is the White House not wanting to get ahead of Reid and Boehner at a delicate moment, or maybe it’s the truth: “At the WH [we're] hearing no budget deal yet and ‘nothing is imminent.’ House Republicans to meet in a little while.”

Update: For what it’s worth, Chuck Todd says there is a deal and that the GOP conference is currently reviewing it. Assuming they okay it, there’ll be some sort of announcement then.

Update: Sure looks like we’re close to a deal: Check out what Mike Johanns posted on his Senate website before quickly withdrawing it.

Update: Tapper says the GOP conference has given Boehner the green light and now sources from both sides are saying the deal is done. $38.5 billion in cuts, no defunding of Planned Parenthood. National Journal sets the scene inside the conference room:

BREAKING: House Speaker John Boehner outlined the parameters of a long-term funding deal, telling his members in a closed-door meeting, “This is the best deal we could get out of them,” according to a lawmaker in the room who asked not to be identified.

The deal is still not official, Boehner cautioned, but in a sign things are coming to a close, the House is preparing for a 5-6-day short-term continuing resolution with $3 billion in cuts, he told members, according to the lawmaker.

Update: Here’s a slightly sunnier way to think of the $38.5 billion in cuts: “CNN Congressional Producer Deirdre Walsh reported that a senior GOP aide in the meeting called it the ‘largest real dollar spending cut in American history’ and said the proposal would cut more than $500 billion from the federal budget over the next 10 years.”

Update: The joint statement from Reid and Boehner:

“We have agreed to an historic amount of cuts for the remainder of this fiscal year, as well as a short-term bridge that will give us time to avoid a shutdown while we get that agreement through both houses and to the President. We will cut $78.5 billion below the President’s 2011 budget proposal, and we have reached an agreement on the policy riders. In the meantime, we will pass a short-term resolution to keep the government running through Thursday. That short-term bridge will cut the first $2 billion of the total savings.”

As part of the compromise, the GOP will get a vote in the Senate on defunding Planned Parenthood and NPR, etc. Needless to say, those votes will fail.

Update: Turns out there is one rider that’ll end up as part of the final deal. The provision defunding abortion in D.C., which was initially part of Boehner’s proposed one-week stopgap budget, will be added to the package. Democrats have voted for that in the past as part of other budget bills so they have some political cover from precedent.


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Just wait till the deal is done,then watch
the MSM spinning into OverLoad/OverDrive on
DEMONIZATION of the Right!!

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 8:52 PM

$39B? Explain how this is a win for us again?

(not aiming that at you Allah, just the punitocracy in general…)

Purple Fury on April 8, 2011 at 8:53 PM

39 billion… is that less than 100 billion?

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:54 PM

How excited are you?

Not very! Instead of republicans they should be called cavers.

I mean 39 billion up from 38 billion. I know we have to start somewhere but face it the Republicans caved.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

So we got a whole $39 billion (almost what we asked for to begin with) and get to keep funding Planned Parenthood while the EPA decides what toilets we can use.

What a bargain!

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

AAAarrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

SouthernGent on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Total cuts: $39 billion

Big. Freaking. Deal.

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

And Reid will gloat about how Boehner dissed the social conservatives.

Wethal on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

So other than DoD, what exactly did the Republicans get out of this?

They dropped PP and EPA.

They going in for less on cuts.

What’s the ‘Win’?

catmman on April 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Are we being taken for a ride here? Why didn’t the GOP put the Military Pay issue in a separate bill? That seems like a very obvious and politically smart thing to do. It puts the Democrats on the defensive and forces them to fund the military, or vote against.

Why is the GOP keeping it in when THEY KNOW it will only act as more pressure on themselves to cave… unless that is why they kept it in? A ready excuse for waving the white flag one more time.

sharrukin on April 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM

The vote on funding the government for the rest of the year will come early next week, and then we’ll move on to the debt ceiling debate, followed by the endless war over Paul Ryan’s 2012 budget. How excited are you?

Bring it. Those are where the real battles will be waged anyway. We all know they’re gonna vote to raise the debt ceiling, but it would be nice to get some sort of major concession out of the Dems. A balanced budget amendment seems like a tall order, but what possible rational argument could they make against it?

Doughboy on April 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Let’s see $39 BILLION, when the weekly deficit is $51 BILLION?

So we won’t go to the poor house as fast?

And now the Democrats will roll right over on next years budget. Right?

SHUT IT DOWN!

GarandFan on April 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM

$39,000,000,000 here and there, and in about 60 years we’re talking about some real money.

Still, as a Soldier, I’m happy my brothers in arms and I won’t have to worry about our families buying groceries and paying rent.

Sgt Steve on April 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM

The GOP probably should have started with a much higher number than $100 billion, then they could have negotiated downward to something more meaningful than $39 billion. But that’s the Stupid Party for you.

As for caving on Planned Parenthood, I’m not so sure that building your deal on the graves of dead babies is one of the GOP’s better ideas, but what do I know. I just can’t but wonder how much longer God will shed his grace on a country that slaughters its babies in such obscene numbers.

Kensington on April 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM

39 billion… is that less than 100 billion?

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:54 PM

Less than 100, but I think its more than 61 billion ..

HadaAbeche on April 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Coming across on Twitter!

Fort Leonard Wood Garrison Command
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fort-Leonard-Wood-Garrison-Command/124355610912326
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Commander’s Update to the Workforce
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1800 Friday, 8 April: If neither an appropriation nor a continuing resolution is enacted by midnight tonight, the government will begin an orderly shutdown of operations. All IMCOM HQ personnel must report to work on Monday, 11 April, beginning at their normal duty hours to receive additional instructions and conduct an orderly shutdown. Any work scheduled over the weekend must not be performed by non-excepted employees (unless an appropriations bill or continuing resolution is enacted).

For more information, please visit the Office of Personnel Management website and read this DoD press release.

To read the Department of the Army EXORD regarding the continuity of operations, please login into Garrison Command.com and view ALARACT 131/2011 by expanding the following folders: “IMCOM Garrison Commanders Net,” “Weekly Updates and Tools,” and “ALARACTS.” (Note: the ALARACT is FOUO; GarrisonCommand.com will re-direct you to AKO, which will require CAC access).

ALARACT 131/2011 HQDA EXORD 159-11: CONTINUATION OF OPERATIONS IN THE ABSENCE OF AVAILABLE APPROPRIATIONS DTG 060019Z APR 11. Although a government shutdown is not anticipated, political leadership of the Nation continues to deliberate on current year funding options. CRA expires at midnight on 8 April 2011. The Army’s mission is to immediately develop plans and prepare for operations in the absence of appropriations, clearly defining those activities that must be continued and, on order, conducts an orderly shutdown of operations, continues exempt activities, and makes adjustment to “exempt” activities as required. For complete details refer to the ALARACT message and supporting documents.

http://www.imcom.army.mil/hq/

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 8:57 PM

WOOHOO!

Oh, wait a minute. $1.6T deficit…$39B cuts. That is uh 2.5%? And gets us nowhere near even the bloated Bush era budgets…

18-1 on April 8, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Oh and they’ll probably cave on raising the debt ceiling too.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Isn’t that on top of the cuts already achieved in the previous CRs? I’m not really happy about continuing to fund Planned Parenthood, but just because we haven’t yet achieved that goal doesn’t mean we should stop trying.

Slublog on April 8, 2011 at 8:58 PM

What about Obamacare funding?

clement on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

39 billion doesn’t even pay the interest we pay daily on the debt. Way to go Boehner!

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

The GOP is full of bend over backwards, take it up the Reid, blow-up Boehner dolls.

darwin-t on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I haven’t seen this much caving since I watched The Descent.

Kensington on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

What about Obamacare funding?

clement on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Not in there. That’s why Bachmann is not going to vote on it.

sandee on April 8, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Pathetic… total cave. Only 39 billion and give up defunding… gutless GOP.

Predictable…

davek70 on April 8, 2011 at 9:00 PM

I will never vote for these mothers again.

ahem on April 8, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Well people it is the week-end and bho and those in dc need to get out of town you know. To heck with our Republic and the citizens! Think about this come next voting.
L

letget on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Your not going to defund Planned Parenthood with one branch.

Marcus on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

$39 billion on top of everything already cut, or total?

El_Terrible on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

I will never vote for these mothers again.

ahem on April 8, 2011 at 9:00 PM

OK, then Dems forever.

AUINSC on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

I suspect this deal was essentially done yesterday, and today it was a Kabuki Theater Production for the benefit of the Tea Partiers. That way, the GOP elite can wring their hands and say, but we did our best.

This image summarizes my feelings exactly
!

Mutnodjmet on April 8, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Bob Costa has a good piece on Rep. Tom Price at NRO’s “The Corner.” Two paragraphs are of interest:

Framing broader talking points is another file in Price’s portfolio — sending out information, as he puts it, about the debate from “30,000 feet,” so that members can have a variety of policy answers in their rhetorical quiver. On the shutdown, one of the main points he is stressing is how the federal government has been “quote, shut down, unquote, ten times in the last 30 years. Most people don’t remember that; most people don’t know that.”

“It is hard to remember that we are the minority party here in Washington,” Price says. “We run one-sixth of the federal government, and the person with the ace of spades, who can trump everything, is the president. If he wants it shut down, he’ll shut it down. My gut sense tells me that’s what he wants, and so we’ll have a shutdown, since the president wants to shut it down.”

I think that Price is correct. ObaMao thinks that he can reprise the shutdown of the Clinton era and come away smelling like a rose while shifting the blame on the Republicans.

I have heard enough shrieking from the harridans of the Democrats about how women will be “murdered” if the PP rider is kept. Why don’t people see through this hysteria?

onlineanalyst on April 8, 2011 at 9:03 PM

spineless.

mizflame98 on April 8, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I haven’t seen any substantial public effort from the GOP to expose PP. I mean, was there any? Do we have to rely on Breitbart and radio hosts to tell people that PP isn’t in the mammogram business?

Talk about losing the debate. Yeesh.

Dongemaharu on April 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Marcus on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Then they should of went for deeper cuts elsewhere.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Why would Boehner hold firm this long and then cave? I don’t get it. He needs to operate from a position of power; to relinquish it is to move our country backward.

eucher on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

It’s underwhelming.

SlaveDog on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

it’s like me not not buying one 2 liter cola a year. I just wish I could spend 8 times what I take in with no consequences.

Mini-14 on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

I have full faith in Boehner to handle this properly. He won’t give in, nor will Ryan. This is why the GOP regained the House…they cannot bend to the Democrats now. Hold firm.
JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 8:10 PM

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darwin-t on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Fund the miliary. Everyone else, STFU.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 9:06 PM

What about Obamacare funding?

clement on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I’m assuming it’s still in there, so we get to fund Planned Parenthood, keep EPA regulations, and fund Obamacare.

Woohoo!

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I’m sorry, but I don’t blame them…I blame the American people. Many of these guys are no stronger than the polls…it’s always been that way. And most Americans don’t have the stomach to make the cuts we must have…if they did, we would have them.

I think these guys know what has to happen and they are trying to do it, despite the polls…but they can’t do it directly…at least not honestly or they will get pounded.

I am really at wits end…if the people don’t want to save this country, it can’t be saved…and the Dems have already bought off half the country with cheap, shiny crap.

AUINSC on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

f i z z l e

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

and vote myself a pay raise, and retire with full pay after 2 years, yada yada. Now my blood pressure is up.

Mini-14 on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Hooray, the republic is saved. /

rogerb on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Oh and they’ll probably cave on raising the debt ceiling too.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Of course they will. They have to. It could wreak havoc on this country if they don’t. The key is to wrangle some consessions out of the Dems in exchange for the necessary votes.

Look, we have to accept the reality of the political landscape circa April 2011. The Democrats control the Senate and White House. Which means the Tea Party agenda is a non-starter. The key is to limit the damage the Dems can do between now and January 2013 when God willing the GOP is in charge of the entire government once again.

I don’t like that the Republicans caved, but what were their options? They weren’t gonna get Planned Parenthood defunded. Hell, Harry Reid is b-tching about cowboy poetry and cherry blossom festivals being cut off. And you know the Dems were salivating over the prospect of a government shutdown. They have no ideas or accomplishments to run on. All they’ve got is demagoguery and this would be a perfect opportunity to turn at least some Americans against the GOP.

It’s not a win for the Republicans. Hell, it’s hard to even classify it as a tie. But when you’re outnumbered 2-1 in terms of parts of the government you control, you’ll take whatever you can get.

Doughboy on April 8, 2011 at 9:08 PM

darwin-t on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Priceless!

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM

We’re screwed. Allahpundit has been right about this for months. The courage that is needed to tackle the debt and entitlement reform is just not there.

Rep. Ryan might as well throw his roadmap in the trash.

The GOP will never seriously touch entitlement reform.

chief on April 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Why would Boehner hold firm this long and then cave? I don’t get it. He needs to operate from a position of power; to relinquish it is to move our country backward.

eucher on April 8, 2011 at 9:05 PM

He’s a weak kneed RINO squish that’s why.

darwin-t on April 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM

So we are not going to be killing women but continue to fund killing?

Electrongod on April 8, 2011 at 9:09 PM

We only have one party folks. Even if you’re not religious, (I’m not), make sure you’ve read this at least once:
http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM

I look forward to the negotiations for TRILLIONS…
(because it means I’ll live to be about 400 years old)

golfmann on April 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM

OMG!!!! The military must be screwed despite the fact we do not have POTUS nore do we have a veto proof Senate!!!!!!!! The GOP are such sell outs for not defunding abortions and for permitting military famiulies to suffer!!!!!!!!

Move on! If you want to defund abortion by taxpayer money, take control of the the three houses as the Dems did with obakacare.

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

It’s not a win for the Republicans. Hell, it’s hard to even classify it as a tie. But when you’re outnumbered 2-1 in terms of parts of the government you control, you’ll take whatever you can get.

Doughboy on April 8, 2011 at 9:08 PM

I don’t disagree, but if you look at reaction among a number of righty pundits on Twitter (Jen Rubin, for example), this deal is a huge win for the GOP and evidence of Boehner’s negotiating brilliance.

I’ll buy a tie (barely), but a win? No way.

Purple Fury on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Boehner played this 2011 budget problem fairly well. Its good to move past it now, and onto the 2012 budget, which will be another exercise in protracted trench warfare.

Revenant on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Shut up West.

taney71 on April 8, 2011 at 9:12 PM

anyone up for a 3rd party?

seriously… this is bull. I am so pissed I can’t see straight right now.

johnnyboy on April 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM

O/T
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Can anyone confirm,if Michelle Malikin got Glen
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Fox News loses dumbo Beck, adds dumbo-ier Malkin. Heck, government shutdown? We wanna argue about Crayola! http://bit.ly/fHe2BB #sigh
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canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM

So he managed to anger both fiscal and social cons? Brilliant!

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 9:13 PM

$39 billion on top of everything already cut, or total?

El_Terrible on April 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM

That was my question, too. I thought the 39 was additional to what has already been cut?

Firefly_76 on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Read my lips, no new taxes one hundred billion!

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

I will never vote for these mothers again.

ahem on April 8, 2011 at 9:00 PM

Amen to that…

Any third party candidate would be 100% better than these wimps…

PatriotRider on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

$39 billion? The yearly deficit alone is about $1.7 trillion! Why even bother?

Heckle on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

Allah Pundit is just tickled his happy-Obami pic is getting the response he wanted. Aren’t you? Oh you Svengali!

Marcus on April 8, 2011 at 9:14 PM

This is what I don’t understand you have dem reps saying that women can’t get cancer screening and all these services from planned parenthood. That women are going to die. Well the the heck did they pass Zerocare for so all those that don’t have insurance can get care. I can’t see why the republicans are shooting this back at them.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:15 PM

39 billion? What happened to the 100 billion, or even 61 billion in cuts the Republicans were touting? 39 billion is totally unacceptable. Shut it down!

GFW on April 8, 2011 at 9:16 PM

The DEFICIT for February alone was 223 Billion….

We’ve spent how much in the last month on Libya???

and all these idiots can come up with is 39 Billion…we are finished…

PatriotRider on April 8, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Given the ethical standards of Harry Reid and Barry Obama, I wouldn’t make an announcement until I had Reid”s and Obama’s signature on the document, in blood.

GarandFan on April 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Video: Nancy Pelosi Visits Tufts in Midst of Budget Battle
Pelosi: “As long as we don’t have to take something to the floor, I can be with you right now.”

http://medford.patch.com/articles/nancy-pelosi-visits-tufts-in-midst-of-budget-battle

canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Hensarling is on Hannity right now and he said he just left Boehner’s office and there’s no deal.

SoxNation on April 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM

Well the the heck did they pass Zerocare for so all those that don’t have insurance can get care. I can’t see why the republicans are shooting this back at them.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Please don’t give them any ideas. You want the GOP to make the case for Obamacare?

Firefly_76 on April 8, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Its good to move past it now, and onto the 2012 budget, which will be another exercise in protracted trench warfare.

Revenant on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

That doesn’t make any sense. Obviously if they lied about cutting $100 billion then they’re also lying about Paul Ryan’s budget. It’s just a bigger lie is all.

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM

The Gop has the fighting instincts of sheep.

unseen on April 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Or not?

Obama wants this shut down. Badly. More than his next vacation, and that’s saying a lot. The WH obviously thinks the GOP will take the fall for the shutdown and the military not getting paid is an acceptable bargaining chip. Playing politics with the troops……Words fail me…

conservative pilgrim on April 8, 2011 at 9:22 PM

39 billion? What happened to the 100 billion

….

Just campaign lies.

artist on April 8, 2011 at 9:23 PM

As a fiscal and social onservative the GOp leadership in Dc makes me want to puke. And as a military conservative the GOP and dems playing politcs with troop funding makes me want to vote all their sad sorry as*es off the island.

unseen on April 8, 2011 at 9:24 PM

I assume we will see Gov. Palin’s latest FB post on the QOTD. She nails Obama on his negligence as CINC.

conservative pilgrim on April 8, 2011 at 9:24 PM

ladyingray on April 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM

I know how your feeling, I ended up talking to our First Shirt today asking him what is going to happen, he said he doesn’t know.

What ticks me off is both parties are responsible for this. But President Zero could fix this by issuing an executive order issuing troops to still be paid he hasn’t. The republicans could of put something through just for the troops they didn’t. Now I have a feeling the troops will always end up as pawns if something like this happens again.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Fox is reporting there is no deal yet.

Knucklehead on April 8, 2011 at 9:25 PM

I’ve been under the assumption all day that if talks break down and the shutdown cometh, Reid and Boehner will at least pass a stopgap funding bill for military personnel. The idea of U.S. troops not getting paid while in the field is repulsive; according to the Journal, families of troops killed in action would also suffer as death benefits are temporarily stopped. As I write this, Kay Bailey Hutchison is on the Senate floor demanding a troop-funding measure. We’ll see that happen, at least, before midnight. I hope.

If it doesn’t happen here’s the skinny from DFAS http://www.dfas.mil/downloads/shutdownfaq.pdf

BDU-33 on April 8, 2011 at 9:26 PM

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canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Firefly_76 on April 8, 2011 at 9:20 PM

Oh no I don’t want them to do that. I want someone to ask the dems how can women die if Zerocare is in place and they can’t be turned away for a pre-existing condition.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Paul Ryan’s plan does not cut enough soon enough.

You don’t say, let’s slow down to 65 mph when the cliff is 20 yards ahead.

AshleyTKing on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

All you have to do is ask yourself this question. Would Reagan have caved like this?

the GOp got nothing. No defundind of NPR, planned parenthood, obamacare, nothing. Just got about 1 week of spending cuts which the DEM house in 2012 will make short work in spending quickly.

And oh yes if this is the leadership we can expect for the next 2 year smake no mistake the dems will regain the house. If we are going to be communists I’m voting for my share befor eit’s all gone.

unseen on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

The DEFICIT for February alone was 223 Billion….

We’ve spent how much in the last month on Libya???

and all these idiots can come up with is 39 Billion…we are finished…

PatriotRider on April 8, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Yeah, but no way can we get anything more substantial thru…these are the representatives of the American People…and we are getting what they want.

They want the deficit reduced but they don’t want any entitlements cut (or any other spending that matters for tha matter).

They are angry, but they don’t know who they are angry at…and since they sit in front of the MSM boob tube 4 hours a day and it tells them the GOP is trying to kill granny…though, they aren’t doing a damn thing for granny themselves…then it’s all the GOP’s fault!

Good luck!

We were all worried about the Wisconsin teachers unions bankrupting the state and now we think we won that too…but we lost…who still has a teaching job and is teaching the kids there? The degenerate marxists who staged that entire spectacle, that’s who.

We’ve lost control of the public institutions that created the greatest, freest country on earth and given it to the freeloading marxists…and now we are going to pay the price.

The media/academic/bureaucratic wars back in the 60s and 70s really did matter…and we lost those 2 generations ago. And now we are getting it the neck.

AUINSC on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Great, they fixed 5 days worth of their annual deficit. Now they can start to work on the other 360 days. When they finish celebrating.

pedestrian on April 8, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Do they like the pain of a nail or tack. Because they are just whacking their foreheads with on on a stick.

All this would do is reset the DOOM clock but the DOOM clock is still ticking and will run out sometime.

tjexcite on April 8, 2011 at 9:32 PM

I thirst for a leader

unseen on April 8, 2011 at 9:32 PM

$39 billion is a pittance! Hold the line and shut it down, this is not the electorate of the `90s and WI should show them that. Hold the line and make a real distinction between parties and not the fictional one we have had for several decades!

bluemarlin on April 8, 2011 at 9:32 PM

Come on Democrats! Make a deal. Barry wants to go on vacation. Michelle can’t wait to go shopping.

GarandFan on April 8, 2011 at 9:33 PM

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canopfor on April 8, 2011 at 9:34 PM

That doesn’t make any sense. Obviously if they lied about cutting $100 billion then they’re also lying about Paul Ryan’s budget. It’s just a bigger lie is all.

FloatingRock on April 8, 2011 at 9:21 PM

There are real limits on what can be accomplished with just the House. Sure, they can shut down the government. Hell, they can keep it shut down until the next election, if they really wanted.

Are you expecting the Dems to cave once the government is shutdown? They’ve been praying for it. Every day of the shutdown is another day of demagoguery they, and their media allies, would inflict on the GOP. There is no reason for them to give an inch, no cudgel the GOP can hold over their heads. Reid could say that he’d pass a budget at any time (without any cuts, of course) and Boehner would be isolated, cast as the obstructionist thats preventing the military from getting paid, or what have you.

Don’t think that the GOP’s leverage is all that much better on the coming bills either. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if the dems would let the country default rather than defund their pet projects. Ryan’s budget is more useful as a theoretic starting point than anything that is going to pass as long as Reid holds the Senate and Obama is in the White House.

The bottom line is that support for cuts is wide, but its very shallow. The stuff that really needs to be cut, won’t be, as far too many people are addicted to government welfare. The GOP needs to be strategic in how they play their hand, and extract the maximum amount of concessions possible over the next two years. Going all-in on the first hand is a bad play.

Revenant on April 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM

AUINSC on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Exactly right. The comments on the local news site are mind boggling. The “Tea Baggers” are taking from everybody and have no concern for anybody. Truly what a mess.

ORconservative on April 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM

Oh no I don’t want them to do that. I want someone to ask the dems how can women die if Zerocare is in place and they can’t be turned away for a pre-existing condition.

Brat4life on April 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Well, then how would they be able to screech: “Pro life, that’s a lie, you don’t care if women die!!!!111!!!” at their rallies?

Firefly_76 on April 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM

While I agree with Alan West on playing games with our troops, let’s all remember that Harry Reid and those chicken-shit Democrat Senators could have introduced and passed a stand alone bill protecting and funding our finest in arms way, AND NO ONE WOULD HAVE DARED TO VOTE NO! Tell me again, who’s playing the games with our troops?

Rovin on April 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM

OMG OMG OMG…

Yawn.

Trade your planned parentedhood for 70 billion or shut it down.

Pass another “fund the troops bill” after they reject it and hammer it home.

freedomplow on April 8, 2011 at 9:35 PM

What about Obamacare funding?

clement on April 8, 2011 at 8:59 PM
I’m assuming it’s still in there, so we get to fund Planned Parenthood, keep EPA regulations, and fund Obamacare.

Woohoo!

amerpundit on April 8, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Don’t forget NPR.

Wethal on April 8, 2011 at 9:36 PM

So, let me get this straight. We wanted $61B and three policy riders. We get $39 and no policy riders? That’s not compromising, that’s an anal rape.

They couldn’t even keep one rider? Say, NPR or EPA?

Total, complete cave.

I did like the military pay for the full year as a bargaining chip for the CR, but do have to agree with the Colonel as well.

Now that we’ve shown we can bend over and take it on the small one, I can’t wait to see them grab the ankles on the big stuff.

Disgusted.

Darksean on April 8, 2011 at 9:36 PM

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