Election fraud in Wisconsin election?

posted at 8:48 am on April 7, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

In the aftermath of close elections, allegations of fraud and manipulation almost always arise, especially when the election was fought as bitterly as the one in Wisconsin.  The Daily Caller reports that accusations of both are already flying, but their report doesn’t offer too much in the way of actual evidence:

Madison and Milwaukee conservative radio show host Vicki McKenna aired several concerns during her Wednesday show. She told TheDC she spent almost her entire two-hour show taking audience calls, in which listeners detailed what may be considered full-blown voter fraud.

One caller, McKenna said, talked about a “missing box of ballots,” a voter overheard poll workers talking about. On air, McKenna said the ballot box could have contained blank ballots or it could have been filled with Wisconsin voters’ completed ballot. Either possibility presents a dilemma, though, as blank ballots in the hands of the wrong people could be used to illegally influence counts after the election.

“There are reports of 17-year-olds voting because they didn’t need to show proof of their age or anything like that,” McKenna told TheDC. “There were folks allegedly using their husbands’ or relatives’ utility bills in voter registration, ballots weren’t being counted because they were using the wrong kind of pens. There’s an over-count of 10,000 votes in Dane County.”

Yesterday, a number of people forwarded me a post from Pundit Press, a fine blog, claiming that it gave evidence of ballot tampering on a wide scale.  Pundit Press itself didn’t make that claim, however.  Thomas Ferdousi wrote about allegations he heard from others about ballot tampering (specifically “shredding”) and noted that such actions would be illegal.  Where did he hear the allegations?  On a talk-radio show.

McKenna doesn’t appear to be claiming that these allegations are true, either, just that callers made them.  The “overcount” in Dane County is especially odd, since that kind of information requires a count of check-ins against ballots counted, a figure that not even Dane County likely has at the moment.  No one at a polling station would have been able to observe an “overcount” on that scale.

Having been a radio show host for several years in the Twin City through four elections, I can attest that not every allegation made on the air is the absolute sterling truth.  That doesn’t mean they’re all false, either, and Wisconsin has a recent history of voter fraud that certainly serves to reduce the trust in the system there.  Talk radio can help focus a spotlight on fraud, but it can also provide a lot of red herrings, too.  Wisconsin voters should demand transparency, but also should not jump to conclusions before assuming the entire election was stolen.

The problem here will be the same as it was in Minnesota in 2008.  All elections have irregularities, but most of the time the margins of victory are so substantial that no one cares.  In razor-close races, where emotions are already high, these irregularities will get an incredible amount of attention — and they should, so that the system can be improved.  No system can be made perfect, though, and it’s important to both be vigilant and discriminating when it comes to allegations of fraud.


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Of course there was voter fraud. Stolen election.

Aquateen Hungerforce on April 7, 2011 at 1:29 PM

If the Unions and the Marxists can make death threats, vandalize government property and extort businesses, I don’t think they’re above voter fraud.

NNtrancer on April 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM

An argument for same day registration is an argument for vote fraud. An argument for no Voter ID is an argument for vote fraud.

Dismissing the possibility of vote fraud, ignoring illegals registering, and motor voter bills are all arguments for vote fraud.

Tolerating vote fraud is an argument for dissolution of our Republic.

chimney sweep on April 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Its quite obvious there was voting fraud. We are now into the 2nd decade of the 21st century and we still can’t have honest elections?!?! Give me a break.

Mirimichi on April 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM

There’s an over-count of 10,000 votes in Dane County.”

A possibility of voter fraud?

Dr Evil on April 7, 2011 at 2:13 PM

Ed, why are you posting like the ONLY voter fraud being talked about is from callers to a radio show. NOT SO. Why don’t you email John Fund from WSJ? He was on with Dennis Prager yesterday where he gave specifics of votes where ONLY the judicial candidate was voted to the exclusion of any other issue or candidate on the ballot to 10K. So, to represent this as if ONLY callers into a local radio show are the only reported cases is simply NOT so.

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Sultry Beauty on April 7, 2011 at 2:48 PM

I don’t see how anyone can believe the Dems engaged in voter fraud in a nice, Midwest state like Wisconsin. After all, it’s not like they’ve ever done it there before.

CJ on April 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

THURSDAY, APRIL 7, 2011
1:36 PM: Winnebago County Clerk numbers boost Prosser
Winnebago County returns posted by the clerk’s office give Justice David Prosser 244 more votes there than JoAnne Kloppenburg compared to the results The Associated Press tallied.

Kloppenburg led Prosser in the final AP statewide tally by 204 votes.

Both candidates received more votes in the clerk’s office numbers than the AP tally. Prosser netted 710 votes for a total of 20,701, while Kloppenburg netted 466 votes for a total of 18,887.

Those numbers are not official and could still change. The county was working on its canvass today and tomorrow, according to the clerk’s office.

The clerk was participating in the canvass and not immediately available for comment.

– By JR Ross
Labels: 2011 spring election

idesign on April 7, 2011 at 3:30 PM

Riddle me thiis – how does Douglas County (Superior, for those of you who live outside the area) report a mere 28 fewer votes for Kloppenburg than for her analogue in the gubernoatorial election, Tom Barrett, or a o.33% drop? By comparison, the county with the next-lowest Barrett-to-Kloppenburg drop, neighboring Bayfield County, saw a 5.5% drop?

BTW, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports Winnebago County has posted “revised” unofficial numbers on the county website which, when applied to the now-wrong AP numbers, gives Prosser an unofficial 40-vote lead.

steveegg on April 7, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Posser is now ahead by 40 votes

J_Crater on April 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Here’s the link
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/119421429.html

Jayrae on April 7, 2011 at 3:59 PM

It appears that the legislature already has introduced a photo ID law, so any cries of fraud should give that a boost.

J_Crater on April 7, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Posser is now ahead by 40 votes

J_Crater on April 7, 2011 at 3:43 PM

If he were as indecent as she is, he’d declare victory now.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2011 at 4:10 PM

WHOO HOOO! Proggies WIN!!!

– - or not.
;-)
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CaveatEmpty on April 7, 2011 at 5:01 PM

I think we need the purple thumb method here.

In Colorado, Ken Buck lost by 800 votes. The Secretary of State recently announced that they found that 4,000 ineligible people had voted. Do we get a do-over? Of course not!

Common Sense on April 7, 2011 at 5:11 PM

The problem with Wisconsin voting rules is they are extremely fraud friendly. They allow same day registration with no proof of residency required. Students at universities who have drivers licenses in other states (meaning residency) vote in Wisconsin. All they need to register and vote on election day is someone who is a member of the community to vouch for him/her. The “member of the community” is rarely validated for his bona fides. After the 2004 election some were checked and could not be identified.

In national elections the city of Milwaukee routinely prints and votes more than the census estimate of 18+ adults. It is a hotbed of fraud. After 2004 the Democratic mayor’s son and several of his buddies were convicted of spiking the tires of Republican get-out-the-vote vans that were to transport elderly Republicans to the polls.

The most encouraging thing to happen is the election of a Republican Governor. Republicans have passed more stingent voter ID requirements (anything is more stringent than now), only to be vetoed by the Democratic governor.

If the Democrats follow thieir Minnesota and the state of Washington plan of suprisingly finding unvoted boxes of ballots from heavily Democratic precints, they will have to find a whole bunch of thems. Watch them try!

Corky Boyd on April 7, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Ed, it often seems that third world nations that we help supervise for their elections have far less election fraud than we do. Purple fingers work. If it means honest elections I am willing to wear a purple finger when I have voted. But I am sure something more effective can be evolved that will give positive indication that “this person has voted” to the people at the polling sites but not advertise it to thugs such as our DoJ permits to “police” polling sites.

{^_^}

herself on April 8, 2011 at 4:38 PM

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