Senate defeats Rand Paul’s resolution reasserting Congress’s war powers, 90-10

posted at 7:02 pm on April 5, 2011 by Allahpundit

This wasn’t a resolution to authorize operations in Libya but something far craftier — a resolution reaffirming Obama’s own words from 2007 that “the President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.” When Paul first introduced the idea last week, a flustered Harry Reid temporarily closed up shop to keep it from coming to the floor.

Turns out he needn’t have worried. The roll: 90-10 opposed. Disgraceful.

The problem with Paul’s amendment, as seen by many members of the Democratic majority, was that it quoted then-Senator Barack Obama’s words from 2007 in what appeared to be an attempt to embarrass the Democratic president…

Paul’s proposal was “too cute by half,” declared Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein on Tuesday after she joined other senators in voting to table it, 90-10.

Paul had trouble getting even his fellow Republicans to support his idea. Some said they didn’t approve of where he had chosen to offer his war powers amendment — on legislation to do with small businesses. “I think we need to address Libya, when (that’s) the focus,” said Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Republican, after the vote.

That’s a convenient excuse but since Democrats weren’t about to let this pass, there’s no reason Republicans should have let a formal objection deter them from supporting it — if only to remind The One of what a hypocrite he is. All 10 no votes were GOP, but it’s an interesting mix: The tea party caucus of DeMint, Paul, and Mike Lee, the Maine RINOs Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe, freshmen Ron Johnson, Pat Toomey, and Jerry Moran, and veterans John Ensign and Jeff Sessions. I wonder if Collins and Snowe jumped aboard because they fear public support for the Libya mission crumbling eventually and want to be on the right side of the debate when it does, or if they’re simply worried about tea partiers in the primary and are trying to earn grassroots cred by siding with Rand Paul here. Hmmm.

McConnell, Kerry, Levin, Lieberman, and McCain are reportedly mulling a real authorization resolution for the Libya mission. If it’s 90-10 against Paul on this, I assume a genuine AUMF will have no trouble passing. Here’s Paul’s floor speech in support of his measure this afternoon. Exit quotation: “The new motto of Congress appears to be, ‘Tread on me. Please, tread on me.’”


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We need a Wisconsin meltdown Eeyore thread.

The Lone Platypus on April 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Republicans have a perfect chance to redefine themselves (or really clarify their position) and they blow it. Way to go!

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM

First?

I’m not sure what the point of it would have been and what it would have meant in the long run, but it seems that most of the GOP senators are idiots as this would have been a freebie to take a nice shot at Obama.

What a bunch of eunuchs.

kim roy on April 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Hypocrites. Every last one of them. Shocker.

Scrappy on April 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM

McConnell, Kerry, Levin, Lieberman, and McCain are reportedly mulling a real authorization resolution for the Libya mission.

What about Grahamnesty? Too busy holding hearings on Terry Jones?

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:09 PM

I’m not sure what the point of it would have been and what it would have meant in the long run, but it seems that most of the GOP senators are idiots as this would have been a freebie to take a nice shot at Obama.

What a bunch of eunuchs.

kim roy on April 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Yep, pretty much.

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:09 PM

What a bunch of cowardly, craven dupes.

fourdeucer on April 5, 2011 at 7:10 PM

And anyone expects these people to actually deal with our economic disaster? Hah, our country is so boned.

thphilli on April 5, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Republican’s doing what they do best.

Playing patty-cake with Barry and the Dem’s once again.

Knucklehead on April 5, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Well, it’s confirmed, the Republican senators are nothing but compliant eunuchs. Why do we even bother?

rplat on April 5, 2011 at 7:11 PM

We need a Wisconsin meltdown Eeyore thread.

The Lone Platypus on April 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Is it that bad?

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Like all rinos, the Maine spinsters feel free to vote Republican when their vote makes no difference.

RJL on April 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM

I’m glad to see the Tea Party darling Marco Rubio was among the 10.

Oh wait…

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Maine Twins.

Because its popular in Maine. Yeah, it wins them cred with Tea Partiers. But it also wins them cred swing Dems and pregressives that remain anti-war. It is also true to that dying breed of old style, Yankee Republican, which were the largely pacifist.

This is a state where Ross Perot did well. The traditional “neo-con” and rank and file Dems dichotomy doesnt apply.

swamp_yankee on April 5, 2011 at 7:13 PM

I’m glad to see the Tea Party darling Marco Rubio was among the 10.

Oh wait…

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Rubio ’16 … cuz he kinda sorta fought Obama.

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Kay Bailey Hutchison, I’ve grown to absolutely despise you.

maverick muse on April 5, 2011 at 7:15 PM

I give up. I really do. When Obama won the election, my gut feeling was that this was the end of the end. Stupidly got hopes up over Scott, Obamacare shut-down, Reid unrelected, and so forth. Supposedly, this land-slide last Nov. in Congress would put Obama in a lame-duck mode. Never happened. Never will happen.

betsyz on April 5, 2011 at 7:15 PM

We need a Wisconsin meltdown Eeyore thread.

The Lone Platypus on April 5, 2011 at 7:05 PM

The Lone Platypus:Excellent idea!
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Election: Results (3) – Race/Candidate Details (Information | Results 1 | Results 2 | Reported)

Online results for ELECTIONS held Tuesday, April 05, 2011
The following is a list of all county-wide races and their

status as of 4/5/2011 6:15:45 PM
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http://www.co.marathon.wi.us/eResults3.asp

canopfor on April 5, 2011 at 7:17 PM

Just in! The United States Senate has just declared itself a gaggle of useless, irrelevant and unnecessary eunuchs and the female equivalent thereof whatever that is! DeGenerists?

“War, schmore, our President need not consider us. We’re merely a bunch of folks talking big and walking small!” said California Senator Diane Feinstein.

“As long as we can call each other “Senator” and strut about like members of the Mystic Knights of the Sea Lodge, it’s fine with us,”said both Maine senators speaking in unison. The country is getting too uppity anyway.”

Mason on April 5, 2011 at 7:17 PM

cowards. tar and feathers is too kind

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM

That Rand Paul stood ground matters; that he managed to get a vote and garnered 10 is the seed planted. It will be interesting to note how the Tea Party responds to this.

maverick muse on April 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Snowe and Collins were told it was just a cloture vote.

BKeyser on April 5, 2011 at 7:19 PM

O/T-Wisconsin County Clerk!
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Columbia County
April 5, 2011 Spring Election Results
Unofficial Results
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http://www.co.columbia.wi.us/ColumbiaCounty/Default.aspx?tabid=1669

canopfor on April 5, 2011 at 7:19 PM

That Rand Paul stood ground matters; that he managed to get a vote and garnered 10 is the seed planted. It will be interesting to note how the Tea Party responds to this.

maverick muse on April 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM

I have two Dem loyalist senators, so it wasn’t shocking… BUT, Tea Party darlings like Rubio keep getting lower and lower in my book.

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:20 PM

I’m glad to see the Tea Party darling Marco Rubio was among the 10.

Oh wait…

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Some of the bloom is off that particular rose. I also wasn’t impressed with his interview with Chris Wallace on Sunday. Too much boilerplate.

a capella on April 5, 2011 at 7:21 PM

any news on the WI election?

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 7:21 PM

The sad thing is that Snowe and Collins actually saw the writing on the wall… this Libyan adventure is going to come back and bite us and we have Maverick and Tiddie getting all wee-weed up over pandering to Muslims!

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:22 PM

He is the true maverick here. Too funny.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 7:22 PM

“As long as we can call each other “Senator” and strut about like members of the Mystic Knights of the Sea Lodge, it’s fine with us,”said both Maine senators speaking in unison. The country is getting too uppity anyway.”

Oops! I spoke to soon. The Maine senators are still buffoons of the worst kind but perhaps less so on this issue.

I’m going to the Sylvan Learning Center tomorrow for a tune up.

Mason on April 5, 2011 at 7:22 PM

“I think we need to address Libya, when (that’s) the focus,” said Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, a Republican, after the vote.

Sure, like all the monkey business in the health care bill and the TARP and Porkulous legislation.

fourdeucer on April 5, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Whoops, my Maverick reference is Rand Paul, meaning he is truly the maverick, not the RINO butt kissing McCain.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 7:23 PM

http://www.co.columbia.wi.us/ColumbiaCounty/Default.aspx?tabid=1669

canopfor on April 5, 2011 at 7:19 PM

I don’t think the polls close till 8:00 p.m in Wisconsin.

Knucklehead on April 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM

I will work to primary both my Senators. They suck.

ladyingray on April 5, 2011 at 7:25 PM

aww…I was wondering what he was whispering about ‘saving up’ and it cut short.

clement on April 5, 2011 at 7:26 PM

Cute? CUTE? What’s cute is that . . . excuse for a woman Feinstein playing blatant and shameless partisanship with not only the Constitution, not ONLY her job, but with the direction of the country. My hypocrite meter just hit an 11.

I want to barf.

Ryan Anthony on April 5, 2011 at 7:26 PM

“The GOP will betray You.”

-True King

portlandon on April 5, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Buncha cheeze-nosed gravy-sucking bastages.

The cowardly lion is a fierce warrior compared to these sponge-spined simpering idiots.

hillbillyjim on April 5, 2011 at 7:30 PM

I don’t think the polls close till 8:00 p.m in Wisconsin.

Knucklehead on April 5, 2011 at 7:24 PM

The polls may close at 8, but amazingly enough the Democrat SOS already knows the results at 7:15pm.

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 7:32 PM

That’s fine by me. We don’t need to be chasing cars or biting mailmen right now. We need to keep our focus on improving the economy. This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

maverick muse on April 5, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Yes, of course. We are on an island. A very small and obscure island. An island where snapping flesh-eating Gila monsters rule.

betsyz on April 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Kyl said Republican Senator John McCain, a supporter of the Libya war, was trying to get agreement with Democrats.

This from the link Allah gave above.

1) Since when was it a “war”? I thought the WH was denying this or something

2) Ah, yes, McCain… always one to reach across the aisle.

It will be interesting to see what the House has to say about this.

Of course Pappy Paul won’t support the Libyan War, but what about Bachmann, West, Ryan, and Pence?

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM

This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Yeah, silly little Constitution. Who needs it?

hillbillyjim on April 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Primaries. Primaries. Primaries.

The Senate GOP is in need of a cleansing.

Saltysam on April 5, 2011 at 7:35 PM

O/T Paul Ryan on Mark Levin now.

fourdeucer on April 5, 2011 at 7:35 PM

That’s fine by me. We don’t need to be chasing cars or biting mailmen right now. We need to keep our focus on improving the economy. This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Wars cost money and if you aren’t willing to stick up for the Constitution, you probably shouldn’t be in office.

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:35 PM

This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

You know the more comments of yours I read the happier I am you don’t support Gov Palin

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 7:36 PM

This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Every single Democrat Senator is in complete agreement with you.

Saltysam on April 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM

hillbillyjim on April 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Not even a nice try, just sloppy reflexiveness. The War Powers act has never been put to the test. Not when Daddy Bush invaded Iraq, not in Kosovo, not in Korea, not in Vietnam. So don’t give me that pant load of sanctity.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM

So 90 out of 100 Senators do NOT agree with what Barack Obama said in 2007?

This is a good thing, isn’t it?

Really Right on April 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Every single Democrat Senator is in complete agreement with you.

Saltysam on April 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Also Marco Rubio.

Obama/Rubio 2012!

tetriskid on April 5, 2011 at 7:46 PM

The Senate GOP has the fighting spirit of a troop of girl scouts. They are part and parcel of the failed establishment and when we need a revolution, they respond with dainty notions of “collegiality.”

To hell with all of ‘em.

Cicero43 on April 5, 2011 at 7:47 PM

When, in the history of this Republic, has the Senate been anything but what it is today?

A Balrog of Morgoth on April 5, 2011 at 7:49 PM

The Stupid Party doing what it does best.

Being Stupid.

rickyricardo on April 5, 2011 at 7:52 PM

“The new motto of Congress appears to be, ‘Tread on me. Please, tread on me.’”

S/b “Let Obama tread on me, oh, please do”.

What a bunch of wussified nimwits.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2011 at 7:52 PM

We might as well have elected Charlie Crist in Florida.

At least we knew up front that Crist was a sleaze.

tetriskid on April 5, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Rubio is an aristocratic young windbag.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2011 at 7:53 PM

hillbillyjim on April 5, 2011 at 7:34 PM

Not even a nice try, just sloppy reflexiveness. The War Powers act has never been put to the test. Not when Daddy Bush invaded Iraq, not in Kosovo, not in Korea, not in Vietnam. So don’t give me that pant load of sanctity.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:38 PM

I rather liked it.

hillbillyjim on April 5, 2011 at 7:54 PM

They want to craft a real resolution to authorize the ‘war’ in Libya? I thought that horse had already left the barn, so it’s too late to open the door. Say, doesn’t the president go to the congress and ask for this authorization. Is McLame trying to feel presidential.

Kissmygrits on April 5, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Let us not forget about Michelle and her whopping, tromping attitude. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII a lot of people to put me together, every single morning, what with this huge ass, hairy as can be, zero personality, plus, I have serious issues with my husband, he seems so lackadaisical. I want to womp white man altogether, especially since, they are the very people who’ve ruled the world…………………we need to do some seruous damage. We are on our way, with the Democrats, who simply offer bleats and pleas to the underscored.

I eat lobster. I drink the fiest of champagns. Yet, I am still wtih you man…………………..thus a re-election with a gusto.

betsyz on April 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM

This is a good thing, isn’t it?

Really Right on April 5, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Actually not in this case. You know that Obama is not 100 % wrong right?

CWforFreedom on April 5, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Kissmygrits on April 5, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Congress could pass a law saying that PBHO is not authorized to spend money on the war. It would be spectacularly stupid, although mighty pleasing to the H/A folks in attendance here.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:57 PM

And on this, the 90 Senators are Constitutionally on the correct side, and Senator’s obama and paul, as well as the Democrats in the 1973 Congress are on the Unconstitutional side.

http://www.fed-soc.org/publications/pubID.106/pub_detail.asp

there are plenty more Constitutional Originalist scholarship on the subject, and of course Mark Levin covered a good bit of this recently on his radio show.

jp on April 5, 2011 at 8:03 PM

That’s fine by me. We don’t need to be chasing cars or biting mailmen right now. We need to keep our focus on improving the economy. This is a stupid time to try to fight the Constitutional battle over war powers. Let PBHO have his moronic, little war and all of the glory that goes with it.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 7:33 PM

war and economy are mutually exclusive?

equanimous on April 5, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Marco Rubio actually has studied the Constitution and is an Originalist, thats why he voted against this, recognizing the whole idea that a POTUS must get approval from Congress is not Constitutional, as was the Position of Ronald Reagan and every President since the 1973 War Powers Resolution by a Veto- Proof Democrat Congress

jp on April 5, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Seriously what would it take to have a vote on such an action? It could be done on a conference call or on the internets.

CWforFreedom on April 5, 2011 at 8:11 PM

any news on the WI election?

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Yeah. That “record turnout”? I don’t know where it is, and I live in west central Madison. The polling place I went to was a ghost town.

MadisonConservative on April 5, 2011 at 8:16 PM

Oh…and Rand Paul is the ballsiest US Senator, and he shines in a chamber where 9 out of 10 are pandering cowards.

MadisonConservative on April 5, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Effin’ Cowards…

RocketmanBob on April 5, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Thank God there’s only 2 per state.

SouthernGent on April 5, 2011 at 8:24 PM

war and economy are mutually exclusive?

equanimous on April 5, 2011 at 8:03 PM

If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

Time to clean house in the senate.

Koa on April 5, 2011 at 8:31 PM

RINO’s..see you in 12

Dingbat63 on April 5, 2011 at 8:43 PM

If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

not if the rabbits are conjoined twins…

equanimous on April 5, 2011 at 8:50 PM

AP: PLEASE, in the future, provide a link to the votes it is too hard to find for us mortals.

I’m sure my Dim Sen Hagan voted against it but curious if Burr did. Alas, NC is screwed: 2 Sens (1 Dim who is Harry’s bitch and votes how he tells her and 1, often RINO), both of whom have years left to screw up this great nation. Jesse,
where are you?

Dingbat63 on April 5, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Well, at least Sen. Paul tried. I respect him hugely for that.

Remember this vote come primary season, folks.

Inkblots on April 5, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Well…..i hate to say it, but, its getting close to 3rd party time. Im not saying completely splitting from the GOP but we need to start a grassroots movement to challenge the establishment Republicans in every single winnable conservative district in America.

More Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, and Rand Paul type changes before the Democrats ruin the greatest nation in the history of the world in an irreversible way because the GOP is weak and without any leadership.

There is no cooperating with the Democratic Party. Their goal is an end to freedom, and their methods are lying and fear mongering. They have become enemies to everything this country was founded on…..Washington and Lincoln would be leading us into a battle for liberty, not running scared from Democratic threats of blame over a government shut down.

If the GOP cant save the country from this decent into tyranny, we have no choice but to offer an alternative to those citizens who are not willing to trade control of their lives for a big state nanny.

Im frustrated beyond words.

alecj on April 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM

If you chase two rabbits, you will lose them both.

MJBrutus on April 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM

If you chase half a rabbit you eat spoiled meat.

clement on April 5, 2011 at 9:14 PM

MadisonConservative on April 5, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Your hatred of liberty-oriented politicians is quite telling.

Have fun supporting the banking cartel and the military-industrial complex.

iamse7en on April 5, 2011 at 10:27 PM


since Democrats weren’t about to let this pass, there’s no reason Republicans should have let a formal objection deter them from supporting it — if only to remind The One of what a hypocrite he is.” – Allahpundit

BO’s statement in 2007 was a wrong then as the Libyan war is today. Demonstrating hypocrisy by being a hypocrite just shows the limits of ones integrity, and probably results in a net loss of public support. In fighting Islamists, we need to be able to use force nimbly against targets of opportunity, even if that is not “stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation”. If necessary, we should be able to take Pakistan or Iran’s nukes, even if they are not yet an “actual or imminent threat”. We may need to militarily support revolutions in Iran, destroy their economy or assassinate their Imams and other terrorists, even if they are not an “actual or imminent threat”.

elfman on April 6, 2011 at 8:04 AM

Republican’s doing what they do best.

Playing patty-cake with Barry and the Dem’s once again.

Knucklehead on April 5, 2011 at 7:11 PM

Republican’s doing what they do best.

Playing patty-cakeBending over getting ready to PLAY BALL with Barry and the Dem’s once again.

FIFY!

belad on April 6, 2011 at 8:04 AM

MeatHeadinCA on April 5, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Actually they defined themselves very well. We need to vote all the liberal idiots out and keep working at it until they are ALL replaced.

dogsoldier on April 6, 2011 at 8:06 AM

If the GOP cant save the country from this decent into tyranny, we have no choice but to offer an alternative to those citizens who are not willing to trade control of their lives for a big state nanny.

Im frustrated beyond words.

alecj on April 5, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Reality check here. The country club republicans are only slightly less liberal than the dems. They live in a bubble so unlike our lives they can’t and won’t grasp it.

Very soon we will not be able to afford heat our homes and drive to work. Spiking energy costs will flatten employment. Although on that note the only improvement in unemployment is the quality and deviousness of Failbama’s propaganda and ability to lie about the actual state of the economy.

Meanwhile they argue about the federal budget? The back end of the boat is bobbing up and down in the water, people.

dogsoldier on April 6, 2011 at 8:13 AM

It’s just the Constitution. Who cares what it says?

hawksruleva on April 6, 2011 at 9:19 AM

What is truly sad is how many neoconservative Republicans voted to support Obama by voting no on this bill.

popularpeoplesfront on April 6, 2011 at 9:46 AM