PPP poll: Trump within six points of Romney in … New Hampshire

posted at 5:02 pm on April 5, 2011 by Allahpundit

I’ll be shocked if he runs, no matter what Bernie Goldberg says, but “Trump vs. Anyone” hypotheticals are so much fun that I’m practically obliged to blog them.

If Trump actually run 21% of New Hampshire GOP voters say they’d vote for him, compared to 27% for Romney. The key to Trump’s relatively strong showing? He does well with birthers and Tea Partiers, two groups he has seemed to actively court with his public comments of late. 42% of primary voters firmly say they do not believe Barack Obama was born in the United States to 35% who believe that he was and 23% who aren’t sure. Trump leads Romney 22-21 with the birther crowd, but Romney holds the overall lead because he’s up by a much wider margin with the folks who dismiss the birther theory.

Trump also leads Romney 23-21 with the Republican primary voters who consider themselves to be Tea Party members but that’s only 30% of the electorate and Romney’s up by a good margin with the folks who don’t identify with that movement…

There is one huge warning sign for Romney in this poll despite the leads he posts in every permutation though: 61% of primary voters say they would not be willing to vote for someone who supported a bill at the state level mandating that people have health insurance. In 5 of the 6 horse race questions we asked Romney still leads with those voters, suggesting that most Republicans who follow politics and the 2012 race only casually are not really aware of ‘Romneycare.’ It’s safe to say they’ll be well aware of it 9 months from now, and it’s going to be interesting to see if Romney can sustain his support once he’s been endlessly bashed over the head with it.

Needless to say, assuming it’s true, that last bit is incredibly ominous for Romney. No wonder Pawlenty’s not sweating being in single digits nationally. As for Trump’s numbers, it’s surprising that Hampshire tea partiers would line up behind him when offered Gingrich and Palin as alternatives. (They finish with 12 and nine percent, respectively, with Michele Bachmann at three percent.) Take your pick of what that might mean: (a) Tea partiers are dissatisfied with the entire field, even the “true conservative” contingent, and are looking for the ultimate “outsider” protest vote; (b) name recognition still counts for a lot right now and Trump’s is probably higher than anyone else’s, Palin included; (c) not only is there significant overlap between Birthers and tea partiers, but Birtherism weighs unusually heavily in their votes. That seems like the obvious conclusion given Trump’s Birther media whirlwind lately, but here’s an unexpected result from the crosstabs: Although Trump leads among Birthers, Romney’s favorable rating among them is actually way higher than Trump’s is (and higher than it is among non-Birthers).


What may be true is that hardcore Birthers are willing to vote for a guy who takes the lead on their pet issue even if on balance they like him less than the competition. So yeah, that might get Trump to 20 percent in a state like New Hampshire that favors, ahem, “mavericks” and has plenty of independent voters willing to scramble the conventional wisdom. But look at his numbers among non-Birthers, and consider the fact that if many Republican voters are still so ill-informed that they don’t yet know about RomneyCare, they surely have no clue about Trump’s past as a thrice-married formerly pro-choice independent who once described himself as “very liberal when it comes to health care.” That’s why I think he won’t run — which of the early states would he contend in besides New Hampshire? — and why, if he did, it’d probably end up helping Romney (or whoever emerges as the “centrist” candidate) for the same reason that a Bachmann run would. The more people there are in the race to appeal to tea partiers and/or Birthers, the more that vote splits and the fewer votes Romney needs from the center to win. Only by actually beating Romney in New Hampshire and effectively destroying his candidacy before it starts would a Trump run help “true conservatives.” Anyone seriously see that happening?


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rob verdi on April 5, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Donald Trump makes Rudy Guiliani look like Ralph Reed. Its amazing how ill-informed the electorate is.

Trump has more dirty laundy and liberal positions than all the other candidates put together.

swamp_yankee on April 5, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I’ll be shocked if he runs, no matter what Bernie Goldberg says

I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs, but he’ll flame out early.

Doughboy on April 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

skrew yew sewnewnew !

singlemalt 18 on April 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Romney can run…but he won’t win.
Bless his heart, he just doesn’t connect with the people. He has the contacts, he has the looks, he has the loyal family, he has the money, he has the drive, the determination, he speaks well, he’s smart, great hair, fantastic suits, but he doesn’t connect with everyday voting people.
Has nothing to do with his faith or fame, it has everything to do with not having the “it” factor.

right2bright on April 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Trump has more dirty laundy and liberal positions than all the other candidates put together.

swamp_yankee on April 5, 2011 at 5:07 PM

But Trump is also keenly aware of the business implications of the current administration’s policies. He won’t do anything that he thinks won’t benefit him directly.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM

It’s simple…Trump is fun, he will wear thin, but he is fun.

right2bright on April 5, 2011 at 5:10 PM

dumb

rob verdi on April 5, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Soooooo dumb.

Abby Adams on April 5, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Has nothing to do with his faith or fame, it has everything to do with not having the “it” factor.

right2bright on April 5, 2011 at 5:08 PM

How about Romneycare? He severed whatever connection he had with me when he refused to apologize for that Mass-uh-chew-sits sh!t sandwich in the same breath he derided Obamacare.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Bob Dole, John McCain and now Mitt Romney. I see a pattern, they are all centrists, they were all the next guy in line, and they all lost big time.

Fred 2 on April 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM

the ABM vote is strong.

Mitt can not win. Even in his home state of NH he is weak. Mitt will be destoryed in the rest of the country that is not the NE nor the mountain West.

And I would love to see the operation chaos vote in NH. If the dems are convinced that Palin is the best candidate for Obama to face watch the crossover vote in NH.

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Seriously? A man who headlined Wrestlemania a few years ago in a “haircut” match with Vince McMahon is going to be a contender for the GOP’s Presidential nomination?

It’s Ross Perot Redux.

Captain Kirock on April 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM

Mitt = LOSER

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Yuck.

terryannonline on April 5, 2011 at 5:14 PM

I think people are sick and tired of the ‘oh so careful’ candidate. They will accept a lot of flaws if the guy is something other than The Prince Of Nuance.

sharrukin on April 5, 2011 at 5:15 PM

To whom is Trump giving the finger in that photo?

In 5 of the 6 horse race questions we asked Romney still leads with those voters, suggesting that most Republicans who follow politics and the 2012 race only casually are not really aware of ‘Romneycare.’

Seems like lots of Granite Staters have been living under a rock. With all the Mass. residents moving to NH to escape state income tax, wouldn’t some of them start talking to NH natives about Romneycare after over 5 years?

Steve Z on April 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM

I think Trump will have to decide by May. The NBC Upfront presentation to advertisers is May 16th. Celebrity Apprentice has been getting good ratings and is one of their programming staples. If he runs, they’ll have to postpone the show throughout the duration of his campaign.

SnarkVader on April 5, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Tax China!

freedomplow on April 5, 2011 at 5:22 PM

“We don’t comprehend this. Romney has better hair.” ~ DC Insiders.

Fallon on April 5, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I expect New Hampshire Republicans know all about RomneyCare, but also fully understand Massachusetts politics. There was going to be an XCare whoever was governor.

pedestrian on April 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM

My take is that, any policy difference aside, the base and hopefully america react well to a well-spoken, forceful leader. Enough with surrender first GOP candidates. Trump is gaining ground for not playing the I am ashamed of what I believe card that McCain ran on.

joeindc44 on April 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM

How about Trump with the latest American Idol as VP? Now that’s a ticket that would win in a landslide in a country that can elect Obabmbi as president!

neuquenguy on April 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM

So wait…does this say that birthers are likely to vote for Trump mostly because he’s yammering about that one issue of Obama’s birth certificate?

And if Romney is also doing well with the birther crowd, I don’t recall him mentioning the issue.

Birthers…I’ll never understand those people.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:24 PM

(b) name recognition still counts for a lot right now and Trump’s is probably higher than anyone else’s, Palin included

You really believe that, Allahpundit? Really?!?

Abby Adams on April 5, 2011 at 5:24 PM

In that picture his face is orange and his hand is a different color. Gross. Pick another picture please.

txmomof6 on April 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

His stance on the BC trumps everything else. Plus, he’s called global warming bs, is pro-life, pro-traditional-marriage, right about Libya (should never have helped the Al-Q linked rebels), right about China, pro-2nd Amendment. The list is impressive.

Going after the BC shows that he is the bravest of all the men and women currently seeking the GOP nomination.

As for his personal stuff, of course he shouldn’t have cheated on Ivana, but he left her very well off (and not on her death bed ala Gingrich), and married Marla. He could’ve pulled a John Edwards and never married the mistress. When they divorced, he left her well off, too. All his kids seem to have turned out well, too.

Oh, and can anyone imagine having Melania as FLOTUS? Esp. after the nightmare we have now? We could have our very own Carla Bruni in her! That right there is reason to vote for Trump ;)

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

To whom is Trump giving the finger in that photo?

Steve Z on April 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Kidding aside, I spotted the Comedy Central logo on the backdrop. I’m sure that picture was taken for the Comedy Central roast that Trump was the guest of honor for recently. Knowing Trump as I do, I’m sure he’s vamping for the camera.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

I have NEVER understood why Romney is always portrayed a some sort front-runner, or someone to be gauged against .. scratching head.
Just how many Romneyites ARE there, anyway ??
Just not getting it.

pambi on April 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Some of the stupid from Vermont must be seeping over the border in NH.

RedRedRice on April 5, 2011 at 5:27 PM

We could have our very own Carla Bruni in her! That right there is reason to vote for Trump ;)

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM

I hope to God you’re not being serious.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Abby Adams on April 5, 2011 at 5:24 PM

You think Palin has more name recognition than Trump who has been famous since the ’80s? Really? I remember hearing about the guy when I was only eight and it was before the Marla Maples scandal.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM

You missed the winking smiley face? It was right there, lol.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Looks like Trump’s claims are going to have to be seriously dealt with now. Authorship of Dreams and the birth certificate issue. ah well.

ted c on April 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM

I have NEVER understood why Romney is always portrayed a some sort front-runner, or someone to be gauged against .. scratching head.

pambi on April 5, 2011 at 5:26 PM

The Dems are poised to rip him apart over Romneycare. and the line of attack will go something like this:

If it was good enough for Mass-uh-chew-sits, how come it’s not good enough for the rest of America?

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Oh boy,its the Everyone Aboard the Trump BandWagon
Possible 2012 Election Tour!!

Still…..not feel’n it!!(sarc).

canopfor on April 5, 2011 at 5:31 PM

You really believe that, Allahpundit? Really?!?

Abby Adams on April 5, 2011 at 5:24 PM

Trump has been “famous” a lot longer than Palin. Sometimes, she’s not on top of everyone’s list.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:31 PM

You think Palin has more name recognition than Trump who has been famous since the ’80s? Really? I remember hearing about the guy when I was only eight and it was before the Marla Maples scandal.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:28 PM

I dunno if Palin has more name recognition than Donald Trump, but I do know that Donald Trump is an absolute 100% certified grade-A publicity whore. He’s gotten away with stuff in New York City that looks to me like it borders on graft. I’m not comfortable tossing my primary vote to him, and it’s hard for me to fathom how he could come through a national primary race, name recognition notwithstanding.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Trump has been “famous” a lot longer than Palin. Sometimes, she’s not on top of everyone’s list.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:31 PM

And sometimes “famous” is a bug rather than a feature when you’re a publicity whore like The Donald.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM

I think people are sick and tired of the ‘oh so careful’ candidate. They will accept a lot of flaws if the guy is something other than The Prince Of Nuance.

sharrukin on April 5, 2011 at 5:15 PM

I think you are right. I don’t see how Trump can win, but the other GOP candidates could learn something from him. People like Gov. Palin, Col. West, Herman Cain, and Donald Trump resonate with a lot of people because they are not afraid to speak their minds. People are sick of slick poll-tested mealy-mouthed compromising political speak (ROMNEY speak). They are tired of political correctness. They long for honest and bold speech…and I believe, bold action too.

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Donald the Palin stalking horse…

Viator on April 5, 2011 at 5:35 PM

And sometimes “famous” is a bug rather than a feature when you’re a publicity whore like The Donald.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Can’t say Palin’s not a publicity seeker either…she’s certainly been able to keep that spotlight on her the past couple of years.

I dunno…name recognition means a lot in politics. As long as it’s all good. There may be no “bad publicity” as the saying goes, but I’m not sure that applies to running for elected office.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:36 PM

btw Is it still true that Trump doesn’t shake hands? That would certainly be a detriment to the guy should he run.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:37 PM

People like Gov. Palin, Col. West, Herman Cain, and Donald Trump resonate with a lot of people because they are not afraid to speak their minds. People are sick of slick poll-tested mealy-mouthed compromising political speak (ROMNEY speak). They are tired of political correctness. They long for honest and bold speech…and I believe, bold action too.

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM

And not coincidentally Palin, Cain and West are my favorites, though Cain and West are ones I would like to see in a political office before they go for President. That often changes people and I think they need it.

I also like Bolton for similar reasons.

sharrukin on April 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Donald the Palin stalking horse…

Viator on April 5, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Trump is a businessman. I am personally of the opinion that he belongs nowhere near the presidency, but I do have a few concrete reasons for feeling that way.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:39 PM

So, in NH, 65% of GOP voters are not sure where O was born and according to a March CNN poll, 51% in general aren’t sure either. “Birtherism” is not only an “issue” but a pretty important one, too. And that’s not even asking the more moderate question of, not was he born in the US, but is he a natural-born citizen. There’s a whole swath of “birthers” who believe he was born in HI, but isn’t NBC thanks to his father’s British/Kenyan citizenship. I don’t know if that would increase the numbers or not, but it is worth noting that not all “birthers” think O was born in Kenya.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Just imagine the night of the election, should he run and win “Mr. President, you’re fired. The American people fired you”.

Schadenfreude on April 5, 2011 at 5:40 PM

perot v2.0

NY Conservative on April 5, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Can’t say Palin’s not a publicity seeker either…she’s certainly been able to keep that spotlight on her the past couple of years.

I dunno…name recognition means a lot in politics. As long as it’s all good. There may be no “bad publicity” as the saying goes, but I’m not sure that applies to running for elected office.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:36 PM

All politicians must seek publicity if they want an office. Palin hasn’t announced that she’s running yet, though. My opinion of her might change, although somehow I have a hunch it won’t.

To compare Donald Trump to Palin, though? That’s a huge stretch.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Trump only makes this race less boring, but he really doesn’t add to it.

Could you really trust a Donald Trump platform? He does a guy who appeared WWE look presidential?

HOWEVER, if were Obama vs. the Donald, then of coarse it’s the Donald….but let’s not go there. Let’s really not go there.

Oil Can on April 5, 2011 at 5:42 PM

I heard on tv last night that the RNC no longer has winner take all primaries. So this election season may continue all the way to the convention as each state proportionately allocates the delegate votes all season long. So winning early primaries may not cause the trailing candidates to drop out early.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM

…it is worth noting that not all “birthers” think O was born in Kenya.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:39 PM

It is also worth noting that some of us believe that Obama is hiding something that may have nothing to do with his citizenship status. Uncertain parentage? Criminal history? Who knows? It’s all locked up so tight, we may never know just what it is that’s filed away.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I never heard this about him, but he voluntarily shook the hand of a guy named “Donald Trump” on the Oprah interview this week (I was flipping through the dial, saw Trump and stopped. One of the only ways Oprah will ever get me to watch her show, lol).

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM

HOWEVER, if were Obama vs. the Donald, then of coarse it’s the Donald….but let’s not go there. Let’s really not go there.

Oil Can on April 5, 2011 at 5:42 PM

+1 this

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Anyone see the Trump roast? Jeffrey Ross said Trump’s done so much damage to the New York skyline, they should name him the 20th hijacker.

Chuck Schick on April 5, 2011 at 5:44 PM

To compare Donald Trump to Palin, though? That’s a huge stretch.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Only comparing them in regards to publicity hounds. Trump may edge Palin out a bit in that regard, simply because he’s done it for so long. But they both relish the spotlight.

But yes…comparing Trump and Palin ends there pretty much.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:45 PM

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Yes, imagine is the poll merely asked “do you think O is hiding his past?”, the majorities who answer “yes” would be huge.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:45 PM

But they both relish the spotlight.

But yes…comparing Trump and Palin ends there pretty much.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:45 PM

I think Palin, in so far as she could be considered a publicity hound, really wants to do what she feels is right for our republic. Trump? He’ll do what’s good for business. It’s his first, last, and only consideration. And anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM

His stance on the BC trumps everything else. Plus, he’s called global warming bs, is pro-life, pro-traditional-marriage, right about Libya (should never have helped the Al-Q linked rebels), right about China, pro-2nd Amendment. The list is impressive.

Pro Life is a new position

Pro Traditional marriage, not sure how new this position is, but with 2 failed marriages, sort of makes him a hypocrite on this issue when he cheats on his spouses.

What has his 2nd amendment stance been over the past few decades? Dunno

He does bring China to the table regarding this being an issue in the race.

By the time we start voting, Libya will be a known outcome, a non-ending rathole, a short term mistake, or huge debacle. Jury still out here.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM

perot v2.0

NY Conservative on April 5, 2011 at 5:40 PM

Bingo!..Let me show you these charts!..:)

Dire Straits on April 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM

The last time Trump didn’t quite have the name recognition, he has that in gobs now.

He loves this country and that’s a vast improvement over our current President.

Also he’s accumulated a lot of gold but no matter who he talks to they’re equals he at least gives people benefit of the doubt.

I think he’s serious, I don’t know if he fills my requirements card but damn, I could actually see Trump winning over Obama.

Speakup on April 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 5:43 PM

I just looked it up to make sure HERE (and elsewhere)…I guess he was reluctant to shake hands for a long time, but says he will if he runs.

I know…weirdness.

JetBoy on April 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Amazing – people will p*ss and moan about Palin’s lack of “gravitas” and experience but turn around and act like Trump is a reasonable candidate.

katiejane on April 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM

it is worth noting that not all “birthers” think O was born in Kenya.

The other two countries I’ve heard named as possible birthplaces are the United States and Canada.

Emperor Norton on April 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Funny, I don’t see anyone here going after Trump over his multiple marriages.

DaydreamBeliever on April 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Also he’s accumulated a lot of gold but no matter who he talks to they’re equals he at least gives people benefit of the doubt.

Speakup on April 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Are you kidding me?! The number of people he’s steamrolled in his rise to the top of the NYC real estate market is legendary! He comes across as a nice guy when he’s glad-handing, but most politicians do. The ones that don’t, they don’t last very long.

I can’t say it often enough: Trump is out for Trump. I don’t begrudge that in a business sense, but he doesn’t belong anywhere near Pennsylvania Avenue in any official capcity.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Meaning what gryphon202?

A little snide there. Does Trump have a billion dollars, no. Most of what he has is debt, sorta like the good old USA. Can he raise a billion dollars, no. Can Palin, probably.

Palin is the ONLY potential GOP Presidential candidate to endorse the Paul Ryan budget plan, among her many other qualities.

Viator on April 5, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Regarding Obama’s birth certificate, I am more interested in seeing his applications to college and his financial aid applications. What name is on those documents, what citizenship is claimed? That would be interesting.

I also want to see the passport stamps back when he went to Pakistan. What passport was used? A USA passport or an Indonesian passport?

After his adoption in Indonesia, did he ever reclaim his citizenship when he came back to the USA and turned 18 or did he overlook that little details?

Did he ever register with the Selective Service?

These are the goodies that will tell a lot, not just the birth certificate.

Then the legal scholars can fight out what the definition of natural born is, once all of these documents are submitted for disclosure to get to the truth.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Palin is the ONLY potential GOP Presidential candidate to endorse the Paul Ryan budget plan, among her many other qualities.

Viator on April 5, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Which is one reason of several that I am a Palin supporter. I don’t think Paul Ryan’s budget goes far enough, but it’s a reasonable start.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:53 PM

His stance on the BC trumps everything else. Plus, he’s called global warming bs, is pro-life, pro-traditional-marriage, right about Libya (should never have helped the Al-Q linked rebels), right about China, pro-2nd Amendment. The list is impressive.

Pro Life is a new position

Pro Traditional marriage, not sure how new this position is, but with 2 failed marriages, sort of makes him a hypocrite on this issue when he cheats on his spouses.

What has his 2nd amendment stance been over the past few decades? Dunno

He does bring China to the table regarding this being an issue in the race.

By the time we start voting, Libya will be a known outcome, a non-ending rathole, a short term mistake, or huge debacle. Jury still out here.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM

So what you are saying is that he has flip-flopped on major issues, just like the guy the establishment is trying to foist on us, Romney. The advantage Trump has over Romney is that he’s fearless. As I said in another thread, Romney is the answer to a trivia question about the Olympics, not a leader.

By the way, I can’t imagine that I would ever support Trump in the primary (I would certainly vote Trump over Obongo in the general), but I have no problem with him running and will enjoy the show.

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Is a PPPObama poll, everybody know is a joke.

Falz on April 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Take a transcript of a Trump interview. Remove the name trump. Read what he has to say. You’ll most likely be impressed by a lot of it.

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

I think he’s serious, I don’t know if he fills my requirements card but damn, I could actually see Trump winning over Obama.

Speakup on April 5, 2011 at 5:47 PM

When he was on O’Reilly, he was a strong seal the borders advocate, but seriously waffled on what to do with the ones already here. He wants them individually analyzed for worthiness to see if they can stay. This is one word, AMNESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can’t support an amnesty candidate. The chain migration alone would lead to another 100 million 3rd world immigrants over the next couple of generations. We will lose our national identity. The ones here since the last amnesty haven’t assimilated that well.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Take a transcript of a Trump interview. Remove the name trump. Read what he has to say. You’ll most likely be impressed by a lot of it.

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

I’d most likely be impressed by a lot of what every wannabe candidate has to say. Politics is the fine art of ass-kissing. I’d like to vote for someone in the primaries that I feel I can trust for a change.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Love the Trump!

Firebird on April 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM

By the way, I can’t imagine that I would ever support Trump in the primary (I would certainly vote Trump over Obongo in the general), but I have no problem with him running and will enjoy the show.

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Dittos. Whatever causes the most acute discomfort for Obama works for me.

However, I don’t want an amnesty candidate to win the nomination, no matter who that is. I really want the border sealed so tight that a desert scorpion can’t cross the border AND I want it made so difficult to find work as an illegal alien that they will self deport home.

I also want to end the anchor baby situation. We need to revisit the intent of that 14th amendment.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Love the Trump!

Firebird on April 5, 2011 at 5:59 PM

Hmm…since Palin supporters are derided as “Palinistas,” “Palians,” “Palinbots,” and such, I think I should coin a new term for Trump’s supporters. How about…

“Trump Chumps”

What do you guys think?

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Which is one reason of several that I am a Palin supporter. I don’t think Paul Ryan’s budget goes far enough, but it’s a reasonable start.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Palin said this in a tweet today. “It’s a good start”

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Can’t support an amnesty candidate. The chain migration alone would lead to another 100 million 3rd world immigrants over the next couple of generations. We will lose our national identity. The ones here since the last amnesty haven’t assimilated that well.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Romney went around saying McCain’s Comphrensive Immigration Reform plan was “reasonable.” But then, once he saw how conservatives were reacting, he denounced it as an “amnesty plan.”

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Trump Chumps”

What do you guys think?

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM

make it Trump’s chumps and it works for me.

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Palin said this in a tweet today. “It’s a good start”

unseen on April 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Chalk that up as another way in which Palin agrees with me. :D

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:03 PM

PPP is a joke. They only polled a total of 384 people. The HotAir poll had Palin receiving five times as many votes as the entire PPP poll.

Next time they should consult the magic 8 ball…..

idesign on April 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM

I get the entertainment factor with Trump, but the man supported Obama in 2008. I have a certain disdain for all the “moderates” and “Republicans” that jumped on the O-Wagon.

It just makes me sick. Powell, William Weld, Trump… puke.

swamp_yankee on April 5, 2011 at 6:06 PM

The first three letters – PPP – destroyed this thread’s credibility. Anyone who believes PPP with its ties to the Democratic Party and the Daily Kos is a fool.

Remember, PPP had Hoffman up by 19 three days before the NY23 special election.

bw222 on April 5, 2011 at 6:06 PM

PPP is a joke. They only polled a total of 384 people. The HotAir poll had Palin receiving five times as many votes as the entire PPP poll.

Next time they should consult the magic 8 ball…..

idesign on April 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Please don’t assume I’m defending PPP, but here’s the dirty little secret:

“Scientific” polls generally poll anywhere from 300-500 people. If the sampling is done properly, that’s generally enough, but that’s why there is that infamous “margin of error,” and that’s why the margin of error varies. The higher the sample volume, the lower the margin of error, assuming that the “scientific” nature of the sampling is on the up-and-up.

Straw polls, such as HotAir’s, have more participants because the volume consists literally of volunteers. But this is why they’re not considered scientific; there’s no way to know for sure how the demographics skew.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

C’mon Gang, Trump has already coalesced this degree of support vs. Romney in a matter of days? When he’s merely testing the outside of that envelope for a run albeit aggressively which is his modus? As far a HR3950 Obamacare is concerned, Trump has already relegated this a disaster multiple times.

Now, about those who question Obama’s BC. My question is why aren’t you questioning it? I’m not a birther but everyday Obama plays this juvenile pea under the cup game when we have deadly serious issues to deal only compounds my curiosity. I don’t doubt Obama was born in the US but what is in this constitutionally required document where games are being played and I don’t like games to be played concerning our constitution in any form whatsoever. Call me crazy but crazy doesn’t employ 2300 folks in California. Obama needs to present the document and get this behind us. A document that is basically at everyone’s immediate disposal for passports, DMV, banking, school registration and employment just to name a few instances where the document is required. What makes Obama so important that he feels he doesn’t have to present this for the most influential, important and influential position in the world? Are you nuts?

One thing I know about Trump, what people think of him is none of his business. He does what he says he’s gonna do, he’s demonstrated uncanny success and the ability to surround himself with the best minds in context for which he needs them and in my book that’s light years ahead of what we have now. So yes, I will be taking a hard look at Trump as well as the rest of the lineup but no need to leave tire treads on the forehead of anyone wanting a better America. Let Trump’s effort unfold without the little negative nudges. We have too much of that with the left.

Tangerinesong on April 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM

I like it. Primaries should be fun and the HA flame wars he’ll precipitate will be high entertainment.

a capella on April 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM

…I will be taking a hard look at Trump as well as the rest of the lineup but no need to leave tire treads on the forehead of anyone wanting a better America. Let Trump’s effort unfold without the little negative nudges. We have too much of that with the left.

Tangerinesong on April 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM

You are assuming that Trump has America’s best interests at heart. I don’t think he is an evil man, but I’m not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that yet.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM

How can you be a fiscal conservative and even consider Trump? He declared bankruptcy so many times. Even had daddy purchased chips at the casino when he needed a cash infusion so daddy would be paid off before the bondholders. This person has integrity? Trump couldn’t turn a profit if his life depended on it. Anything the Donald has he got from daddy. He is a despicable human being. Trump went on television to do the Apprentice because he was B.R.O.K.E, duh! Just admit that you are enjoying him bashing Dumb-Ø with the birth certificate.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump is scoring some points for his agent Ari Emanuel who needs to bloody up Dumb-Ø and even the score for the beating Valerie Jarret was allowed to give to brother Rahmb-Ø. An eye for an eye, ya know what I mean?

Jayrae on April 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Amazing – people will p*ss and moan about Palin’s lack of “gravitas” and experience but turn around and act like Trump is a reasonable candidate.

katiejane on April 5, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Either of them has six times the gravitas as the current Jackass in Chief.

slickwillie2001 on April 5, 2011 at 6:14 PM

Please don’t assume I’m defending PPP, but here’s the dirty little secret:

“Scientific” polls generally poll anywhere from 300-500 people. If the sampling is done properly, that’s generally enough, but that’s why there is that infamous “margin of error,” and that’s why the margin of error varies. The higher the sample volume, the lower the margin of error, assuming that the “scientific” nature of the sampling is on the up-and-up.

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM

I understand what you are saying, but I don’t understand just a 5% margin of error. Sorry don’t buy it.

idesign on April 5, 2011 at 6:19 PM

bump!..:)

Dire Straits on April 5, 2011 at 6:24 PM

Now, about those who question Obama’s BC. My question is why aren’t you questioning it? I’m not a birther but everyday Obama plays this juvenile pea under the cup game when we have deadly serious issues to deal only compounds my curiosity. I don’t doubt Obama was born in the US but what is in this constitutionally required document where games are being played and I don’t like games to be played concerning our constitution in any form whatsoever. Call me crazy but crazy doesn’t employ 2300 folks in California. Obama needs to present the document and get this behind us. A document that is basically at everyone’s immediate disposal for passports, DMV, banking, school registration and employment just to name a few instances where the document is required. What makes Obama so important that he feels he doesn’t have to present this for the most influential, important and influential position in the world? Are you nuts?

Tangerinesong on April 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM

The only people who don’t want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.

—-Barack Hussein Obama

Even though I don’t believe a word Obama says and I generally expect the worst from him at all times, the first time I saw that short little video it was a bit shocking. The man’s hubris astounds.

flyfisher on April 5, 2011 at 6:24 PM

I’ll be shocked if he runs, no matter what Bernie Goldberg says, but “Trump vs. Anyone” hypotheticals are so much fun that I’m practically obliged to blog them.

You are wrong on Trump and reading between the lines above tells me you are preparing your exit strategy from one view to a soft-landing in the opposite field . . . .

But if Trump does not run, my name will be mud. No excuses.

Sherman1864 on April 5, 2011 at 6:27 PM

By the time we start voting, Libya will be a known outcome, a non-ending rathole, a short term mistake, or huge debacle. Jury still out here.

karenhasfreedom on April 5, 2011 at 5:46 PM

It shows he had good judgement on it and called it correctly from the beginning. Heck, he could run as an “anti-war” candidate, lol///

I also forgot to add that his take on Iraqi oil is interesting.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 6:30 PM

angryed on April 5, 2011 at 5:55 PM

Yes. A youtube search of his recent radio and tv interviews are pretty amazing.

He’s reminding me of my guy last time, Fred!, before he fizzled.

Oh, another stance I like from him: being able to buy insurance across state lines, woohoo!

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 6:34 PM

gryphon202 on April 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM

If, as you say, “Trump’s out for Trump”… well, if America goes down in flames, that doesn’t help Trump now does it? Trump being out for Trump is actually a good thing: he wants the best for America because he wants the best for himself. A true win/win. Businessmen cannot make $$ in a failed and bankrupt America. Trump being for Trump means that he’s actually for all of us Americans.

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on April 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Leave it to Allahp to miss the mark, stuck on stupid as he chooses to remain.

Donald fans? Trumpets and Trumpettes.

You should hand it to the Donald that besides his tv show’s money venture and publicity, Trump actually educates the young viewer regarding business manners and successful application vs. summary dismissal in his boardroom sessions. The show provides an entertaining public service unlike others.

Personally, I admire the way he’s raised his daughter Ivana and son Donald, Jr. into mature, productive and responsible adults. They are very astute in getting down to the root of a matter being discussed in firm but never rude communications.

maverick muse on April 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM

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