Qaddafi’s son: Hey, how about letting Qaddafi’s son run the country?

posted at 10:14 pm on April 4, 2011 by Allahpundit

No worries. The son in question is Saif Qaddafi, who spent years trying to convince western leaders that he was a “reformer” — before resorting to the same thuggish scumbaggery as his old man last month when fighting broke out. I’d love to sit here and assure you that there’s no way no how no chance we’ll agree to any “peace” deal that keeps the Qaddafi clan in power, but after another month or two or three of fighting? With the rebels bogged down and coalition leaders getting nervous about a protracted, politically ruinous war effort? Sure, why not?

One tiny wrinkle in the plan: Er, not all of the Qaddafis may be in favor.

Diplomats have said that Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, another son, had offered to act as interim president to oversee a transition to a democratic system. The offer would mean Col Muammar Gaddafi’s withdrawal from power and the end of the family’s tyrannical hold on power.

But one family aide said there had been arguments over Saif’s initiative, which is supported by Saadi, another brother with power in the armed forces. He said: “It is not in the military interest of the government to have a ceasefire now. While we have the momentum, Mutassim wants to keep going.” The official said that the brothers had argued over a ceasefire.

While Saif believes that talks would be impossible without a ceasefire, Mutassim wants to ensure the regime cannot be beaten. He is reported to have said: “People get sick of dying, we have to keep fighting until we’ve beaten the opposition.”

Mutassim and Saif have been rivals for almost a decade.

So instead of a long “rebels vs. Qaddafi loyalists” insurgency to come, we might have a three-way “rebels vs. Saif loyalists vs. Mutassim loyalists” clusterfark depending on how things shake out. As for the Mad Dog himself, no one’s quite sure if he supports Saif’s plan or is being knifed in the back. Presumably it’s the former: CNN says it would be a “gradual” handover of power, with Sky reporting that it would be so “gradual” that Qaddafi would be allowed to remain in the country, albeit with “reforms” made. The response from a rebel envoy: “There’s no way to replace Qaddafi with a small Qaddafi.”


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Well, when Obama said Qaddafi can’t remain in power, he didn’t specify which one. So he could technically declare victory.

Doughboy on April 4, 2011 at 10:17 PM

How many days not weeks will we stay…?

d1carter on April 4, 2011 at 10:17 PM

I’m not up to speed on the Qaddafi family tree. How many sons does the Mad Dog have?

conservative pilgrim on April 4, 2011 at 10:21 PM

More wishcasting.

Qaddafi has already won, it’s all over except for the mopping up. The rebels couldn’t even figure out which end of the gun went “bang”, it was doomed from the start. Time for Soetoro to bow and scrape to the winner (the only talent he has, really) and beg for forgivness.

Oh, and send the bill for all those cruise missiles wasted, to his reelection campaign.

Rebar on April 4, 2011 at 10:21 PM

Something tells me this was the plan all along.

Louie and Jeremiah may have had a little something to do with it.
This whole mess has been nothing but theater…and our tax dollars have paid for every ticket!

katy on April 4, 2011 at 10:21 PM

One of Eric Holder’s people.

SouthernGent on April 4, 2011 at 10:22 PM

No … Daffy has a HOT daughter that can run this train.

I mean – she’s pretty eff’d in the head from what I hear (no worse than him though) … but she does have the advantage of being genuinely HOT.

HondaV65 on April 4, 2011 at 10:22 PM

How many days not weeks will we stay…?

d1carter on April 4, 2011 at 10:17 PM

I’m guessing the # of days is going to reach 3 digits….

Red State State of Mind on April 4, 2011 at 10:23 PM

From what I’ve seen of the so-called “rebels” we’re fighting for, this guy would be no better or worse. Seems like all the “leaders” in that part of the world are thugs in search of raw power. So tell me, Barry, which thugs do we like this week?

Rational Thought on April 4, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Qaddafi and Obami would probably battle to the death in a room with one mirror.

Marcus on April 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM

No … Daffy has a HOT daughter that can run this train……..
HondaV65 on April 4, 2011 at 10:22 PM

Does Dad get to keep his dresses if he steps down or does she inherit them?

Red State State of Mind on April 4, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Well when you say that Qaddafi must go…but we won’t use force to make him go, but we really want him to leave. If he does leave however we will arrest him and put him on trial for war crimes and will ignore diplomatic immunity the way we did with Pinochet… you are likely to end up with a confused muddle and anything is possible.

sharrukin on April 4, 2011 at 10:29 PM

“There’s no way to replace Qaddafi with a small Qaddafi.”

You mean like a “mini me” (little finger stretched)? :)

peter_griffin on April 4, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Damn, I am so happy the adults are in charge in Washington.

Samantha Power thought Gadaffi would be an easy fix. Believed that Obama would get a whole swath of independents and a lot from the Right for toppling Gadaffi.

Smart Power.

coldwarrior on April 4, 2011 at 10:35 PM

This sums up the vacuousness of the ObaMao Doctrine in the ME: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/04/028759.php
We have a destroyer in the WH.

onlineanalyst on April 4, 2011 at 10:40 PM

“There’s no way to replace Qaddafi with a small Qaddafi.”
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Me thinks,even little brain,wonèt save him!(sarc).

canopfor on April 4, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Superior Progressive Smart Power in Action!!

canopfor on April 4, 2011 at 10:43 PM

..The Bay of Libya

…..way to go Obama……..just another example of the stupidity of “smart power”.

….Republicans need to take a stand and demand a Congressional Resolution on this cluster-f#$k.

……It is also time for the administration to be called out on it’s lie that we are in Libya to support a “no fly zone”……

……..anybody paying attention knows we are over there for regime change…and that is what it should be called.

Meanwhile…..in the war Obama wants to ignore:

http://www.aan-afghanistan.org/index.asp?id=1546

Facts from the latest UN and AIHRC report: 2,777 Afghan civilians have been killed in 2010 – these are more than ever before since the US-led intervention started in 2001 and 15 per cent more than in 2009. Insurgents were held responsible for 75 per cent of these casualties, Afghan government and Western forces for 16 per cent. The number of killed children rose above average, by 21 per cent – that of women still by 6 per cent. More than 102,000 Afghans were displaced by the conflict.

…of course with the increase in military operations comes an increase in deaths.But having more civilians killed than ever does not go well with the Barack”stop bombing villages and killing civilians” Obama

…uneven progress that it is…..our men and women in uniform still are the strongest force in the world:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/world/asia/09petraeus.html?_r=1

Under General Petraeus, the tempo of operations has been stepped up enormously. American Special Operations forces and coalition commandos have mounted more than 1,600 missions in the 90 days before March 4 — an average of 18 a night — and the troops have captured and killed close to 3,000 insurgents, according to information provided by the general.

“The momentum of the Taliban has been halted in much of the country and reversed in some important areas,” he said.

“The Taliban have never been under the pressure that they were put under over the course of the last 8 to 10 months,” he added.

….The American Soldier knows what it is doing…..can’t say the same for the Commander and Chief.

..This is progress though….the General in Charge of a major war coming to report on it’s progress made it all the way to page A4…….

…The situation in Pakistan continues to grow worse with the Taliban/ISI exerting more power by the day:

http://pakistanpolicy.com/2011/03/31/attacks-on-pro-taliban-politician-point-toward-intra-jihadi-divide/

Maulana Fazlur Rehman, a leading Pakistani Islamist politician, was the target today of a second suicide bombing attack in as many days. The attacks on Fazl, who heads his own faction of the Jamiat Ulema-e Islam, a pro-Taliban Deobandi party, come days after State Department cables provided by WikiLeaks to The Hindu reveal that he wanted to mediate between the United States and the Taliban outside of Pakistan in 2007.

No group has claimed responsibility for the two atacks, but they are most likely unsuccessful assassination attempts by irreconcilable Pakistani jihadists who disapprove of his attempts to engage the United States and push for a political settlement for the war in Afghanistan.

Once again any element of the Taliban who tries to negotiate outside the Taliban/ISI perimeter of terror is marked for death.The only difference this time is the US is not being played for fools by doing the killing for them, so that Obama can brag about “Taliban leader killed” headlines in the NY Times.
(notice to that this leader is marked for death because of Wiki leaks that exposed his cooperation with the West. As usual,a hero to the left is bad for America and bad for Freedom).

…But the super genius Obama does not have time to address these issues….nor does his friends in the MSM. They have to keep the talking points rolling about how Obama “saved thousands of lives in Libya”…declare victory…..create a media blackout of the disaster left there…and roll into the 2012 election.

Baxter Greene on April 4, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Damn, I am so happy the adults are in charge in Washington.

Samantha Power thought Gadaffi would be an easy fix. Believed that Obama would get a whole swath of independents and a lot from the Right for toppling Gadaffi.

Smart Power.

coldwarrior on April 4, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Dead on as usual Coldwarrior…

…Super smart Samantha also believed the 2007 NIE and ridiculed Bush as a warmonger for “daring to believe that Iran was close to weaponizing a nuclear weapon”…..

Her track record is the same as Obama’s…..absolute failure.

Baxter Greene on April 4, 2011 at 11:04 PM

I’m up for him running the country…as long as we have the coordinates of where he will be every night programed into a cruise missile.

G. on April 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Smart Power³

DeathB4Tyranny on April 4, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Wow..what’s up with that picture??? ‘Heil Allah!! and His Prophet Muhamad!!’

Samantha Power…yeah…there’s a real piece of work….I’m sure she could pass muster for Secretary of State…

BigWyo on April 4, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Why would the strengthened Lawrence of Arabia/Quaddafi leave his harem and his empire?

Obama is ‘brilliant’.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Smart (Samantha) Power.

coldwarrior on April 4, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Yep, the Eunuch in Chief is henpecked by a bunch of women.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Hey, anyone named Saif al-Islam Muammar al-Gaddafi (Sword of Islam Muamar (“Daddy’s Boy”) of the Gaddafi Tribe) sounds swell to me. Call Monty Hall and Let’s Make a Deal!

Mason on April 5, 2011 at 12:07 AM

In a story about the UK’s defence cuts, the Daily Mail reports that the head of the RAF is planning on a six month long deployment of aircraft to Libya.

The Gaddafi clan’s best hope for survival now must surely be to try to string along the West for as long as possible- offering talks is one of the prime ways to be seen to be doing something without actually doing anything. Just look at the discussions with Iran over its nuclear program. Gaddafi surely knows Obama has an election coming up and doesn’t want Libya hanging around his neck, and that the UK’s most recent round of defence cuts means we can’t keep going in Libya for long (and yesterday’s news suggested that cuts to US special forces mean they aren’t able to function in Libya as well as the other hotspots around the world they’re involved in). The RAF chief says that his forces will soon be “exhausted”. Does NATO have the resolution to keep this up for months on end? I can’t see it.

Jay Mac on April 5, 2011 at 5:06 AM

This is going to end badly for Mr. President. Look who said so! http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9001151237

scalleywag on April 5, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Puppet

Wade on April 5, 2011 at 8:54 AM

This is just ridiculous. We could have toppled Gadaffi easily if we had struck when the rebellion had momentum. Instead, we waited until they had already lost before getting involved. All we’ve accomplished so far is prolonging the bloodbath.

sandberg on April 5, 2011 at 3:09 PM