Reports: Obama secretly authorized CIA action in Libya, Al Qaeda may be looking to join rebels
posted at 5:12 pm on March 30, 2011 by Allahpundit
The authorization isn’t very recent, either. According to sources, it was “within the last two or three weeks.” Which is interesting for a bunch of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that coalition operations are only 12 days old. Was the CIA working on regime change before we’d even committed to the UN effort? Did Sarkozy and Cameron know about the CIA’s role when they signed onto the coalition or will they be blindsided by this? And what happens now to the political dynamics in Libya and abroad when Qaddafi starts screeching that he was right all along about the rebellion being a secret mission by the satanic crusader American government to blah blah blah blah?
Here’s a better question, actually. Why, oh why, is this being leaked? Reuters has no fewer than four U.S. officials confirming that the order was signed. Did they leak because they’re alarmed that the mission is quietly being escalated below the radar or are they coming clean about it as cover for Obama, so that he doesn’t look underhanded later if/when the fact of CIA involvement is discovered by the press? Better to get this info out when the mission is still young and people are still forming opinions about it than to surprise them later.
People familiar with U.S. intelligence procedures said that Presidential covert action “findings” are normally crafted to provide broad authorization for a range of potential U.S. government actions to support a particular covert objective.
In order for specific operations to be carried out under the provisions of such a broad authorization — for example the delivery of cash or weapons to anti-Gaddafi forces — the White House also would have to give additional “permission” allowing such activities to proceed.
Former officials say these follow-up authorizations are known in the intelligence world as “‘Mother may I’ findings.”…
Because U.S. and allied intelligence agencies still have many questions about the identities and leadership of anti-Gaddafi forces, any covert U.S. activities are likely to proceed cautiously until more information about the rebels can be collected and analyzed, officials said.
If I understand the article correctly, no “Mother may I” finding has been filed yet. He’s given the CIA the green light to conduct some sort of action, be it propaganda, funding, training, or beyond, but they’re still busy sizing up the rebels before jumping in. Which brings us to this bitter pill that’s just breaking at the Daily Beast. The fact that this story is coming out literally within an hour of Reuters’s story about the CIA order is making me woozy:
As the battle for the future of Libya continues, the excitement is almost palpable among Libyan-born al Qaeda fighters and other Arabs hunkered down in Pakistan’s remote and lawless tribal area. According to Afghan Taliban sources close to Osama bin Laden’s terrorist group, some of the 200 or so Libyans operating near the Afghan border may be on their way home to steer the anti-Gaddafi revolution in a more Islamist direction.
Now, as the White House and NATO continue to debate the possible ramifications of arming the Libyan opposition, the Haqqani network-linked Afghan commander says Libyan al Qaeda affiliates seem to be more “enthusiastic” about the war against Gaddafi every day. And from what the Afghan Taliban commander has seen, there appears to be more than “flickers” of al Qaeda’s presence in Libya, the description given by NATO commander Admiral James Stavridis. According to the Afghan commander, al Qaeda fighters can’t believe their good luck that U.S. and NATO aircraft—the same forces that have dropped bombs on their heads in Afghanistan and Pakistan—are now raining down ordnance against Gaddafi.
Eli Lake of the Washington Times reported last night that up to 1,000 “freelance” jihadis may already be among the Libyan rebels’ rank and file. If the movement’s hospitable to them, AQ might figure there’s a place for them too. Or maybe the AQ story is propaganda drummed up by the Taliban to embarrass the U.S. and inflate Al Qaeda’s role in this year’s Middle East turmoil. Supposedly, even most-wanted Libyan-born Al Qaeda kingpin Abu Yahya al-Libi might eventually head home to spearhead the new Islamist movement inside the country, although I tend to doubt it now that everyone knows that the CIA’s operating in the area.
If that’s not enough good news for you for one day, let’s try one more piece. This time it’s the AP’s turn to ring the alarm bell:
Fresh battlefield setbacks by rebels seeking to oust Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi are hardening a U.S. view that the poorly equipped opposition is probably incapable of prevailing without decisive Western intervention — either an all-out U.S.-led military assault on regime forces or a decision to arm the rebels.
Gadhafi is reaching deeper into his military ranks to send reinforcements onto the battlefield, has adopted new, unconventional tactics to counter the effects of coalition airstrikes, and apparently is convinced he can retain power by gradually retaking a degree of control of eastern Libya, a senior U.S. intelligence official said Wednesday. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence on the condition and capabilities of regime and rebel forces…
Helping propel the Gadhafi forces eastward was a change in battlefield tactics, the senior U.S. intelligence official said. Having seen much of their armor pounded by Western airstrikes earlier, Gadhafi commanders left many tanks and other armor in hiding places in Sirte and advanced eastward instead with small convoys of sedans, minivans, SUVs and other civilian vehicles that the official called “battle wagons” armed with small rockets and other weaponry.
In other words, knowing that his heavy weaponry was a target for NATO and also knowing that he could beat the rebels without it, Qaddafi decided to … beat them without it. Your move, coalition.
Needless to say, there’s precisely zero chance of Obama putting U.S. troops on the ground to oust Qaddafi, especially with fears growing about jihadist elements on the rebel side. It would mean the end of his presidency; even his, ahem, “anti-war” base, most of which has duly defended him for staging this intervention thus far, would desert him if American soldiers end up dying on the streets of Tripoli. So clearly, per O’s secret order, we’re going to start arming the rebels in earnest and doing what we can to force them to vet their own side for jihadis. In fact, maybe we’ll end up making a little trade with them: For each wanted terrorist they hand over, they get a few extra RPGs. It’ll be like a promotional giveaway.
I’ve got a few updates coming, but let’s stop here for the moment. My head is spinning.
Update: How dependent are the rebels already on western air cover for their advances? Quote:
By Tuesday afternoon, it was the rebels’ turn to flee again — in a tangled, panicked traffic jam of gun trucks and civilian cars — as Gaddafi’s forces pounded them once again with a barrage of missile fire and sniper shots. It was a familiar scene, and Bin Jawad may yet become a most familiar front line. “They hit us with a Grad missile,” says Ali Adel Sherif, 19, whose friend was carried into the emergency room in the nearby town of Ras Lanuf on a stretcher, his face and arms bloodied by shrapnel. “It came from behind us in the hills and we could hear sniper fire.”
There was another factor. While there were reports of allied air strikes, TIME saw no sign of fighter-jet support as incoming shells from Gaddafi’s loyalists rained down on the rebels. “Sarkozy betrayed us,” shouted one man on Tuesday afternoon, referring to the French President whose aircraft saved Benghazi from almost certain reconquest by Gaddafi last week. “There are no airplanes,” screamed another.
Well, no, technically, Sarkozy didn’t betray anyone. The point of the airstrikes according to the UN resolution is to protect civilians, not blow holes in Qaddafi’s front lines. Funny how even the guys on the ground are confused about that. More from AFP:
Panicked rebels called for air strikes as they fled in their hundreds eastwards through Uqayla, where they briefly regrouped, then on to Brega, where they also halted temporarily before charging to the main city of Ajdabiya, 120 kilometres away.
“We want two things: that the planes drop bombs on Kadhafi’s tanks and heavy artillery; and that they (the West) give us weapons so we can fight,” rebel fighter Yunes Abdelghaim told AFP.
The 27-year-old, who was holding a Russian AK-47 assault rifle and French flag, said it seemed as if the coalition had halted its air strikes for two days coinciding with a London conference on the Libyan crisis.
“We want the French to bomb the (Kadhafi) soldiers,” said another fighter, Ali Atia al-Faturi, as the sound of shelling and gunfire grew louder.
Update: Beaten to the punch by Reuters, the NYT files its own story about CIA agents operating inside Libya.
The Central Intelligence Agency has inserted clandestine operatives into Libya to gather intelligence for military airstrikes and make contacts with rebels battling Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s forces, according to American officials…
The C.I.A. presence comprises an unknown number of American officers who had worked at the spy agency’s station in Tripoli and those who arrived more recently. In addition, current and former British officials said, dozens of British special forces and MI6 intelligence officers are working inside Libya. The British operatives have been directing airstrikes from British Tornado jets and gathering intelligence about the whereabouts of Libyan government tank columns, artillery pieces, and missile installations, the officials said.
By meeting with rebel groups, the Americans hope to fill in gaps in understanding who the leaders are of the groups opposed Colonel Qaddafi, and what their allegiances are, according to United States government officials speaking only on condition of anonymity because the actions of C.I.A. operatives are classified. The C.I.A. has declined to comment.
What if they info they glean about opposition leaders indicates that they’ll be hostile to the U.S. once in power, might shelter terrorists, etc? Does that change our strategy going forward? Realistically it can’t: We’re not going to pull out after Obama’s rhetoric about preventing a massacre in Benghazi, no matter how distasteful and counterproductive to American aims some of the rebels might be.
Update: Here’s Paul Wolfowitz last night on CNN encouraging the White House to formally recognize the Libyan opposition, even though, er, the CIA apparently still isn’t done vetting them yet. It pains me to say it, but Tom Friedman may have identified the most crucial component of this war right now: Luck.
Related Posts:









Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Whistle-blowers, beware. Big brother is watching you.
The Rogue Tomato on May 21, 2013 at 7:23 PM
And yet a troop of them can still be seen marching into the West Wing today in order to receive their marching orders. Pathetic.
WitchDoctor on May 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM
drip, drip, drip.
myiq2xu on May 21, 2013 at 7:25 PM
“These DOJ folks were Bush appointees, so it’s not Obama’s fault.”
-Libs
portlandon on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Um, this scandal gets bigger by the hour.
Everyone is reporting on this now.
And the IRS
And Benghazi
dogsoldier on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM
http://twitchy.com/2013/05/21/outrageous-did-justice-department-seize-phone-records-of-james-rosens-parents/
Outrageous: Did Justice Department seize phone records of James Rosen’s parents?
Mark1971 on May 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM
I haven’t seen the tipping point yet.
The left is still standing behind their rat-eared coward.
There may be a lot of casualties but it will not reach into the inner circle of the West Wing. The rat-eared bastard apparently is far too important to care about the running of the Executive Branch of government.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM
The funny thing is none of this surprises me. We all knew what he was before he got elected the first time.
Now the world is just catching up.
gophergirl on May 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM
They are looking for a leaker from within…..
they’re paranoid.
ted c on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
It is VERY VERY possible he (OBAMA) knew about it all along.
Notice how one person has been remarkably silent on all the Obama scandals?
Joe Biden.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Wow, this is strangely reminiscent of a Secret Police operation from East Germany or sumptin!
D-fusit on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Yes, Fox News noted this evening that Eric Withholder also seized phone records from James Rosen’s parents’ home.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Can the same accusation apply to IRS thugs who leaked info about Romney’s and Koch Brothers’ taxes?
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
That’s what you find outrageous?
How about a reporter being named a co-conspirator (as in he was seeking to give classified information to the enemy)? The only reason the rest of this crap happened is because the DoJ declared that Rosen was in collusion with his sources to reveal classified information.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Should have seen this coming. The most iconic artifact of his campaign is an affront to the fourth estate.
Capitalist Hog on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Joe Biden.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 7:32 PM
I noticed that Pappy.
I have meant to mention it.
I haven’t/heard/ seen a peep.
But I am missing so much.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:33 PM
Pretty obvious Comrade O’s belligerent rhetoric directed at FOXnews was taken very seriously by some of his minions.
Dear Leader’s thin skin is making Nixon’s legendary thin skin look like rhinoceros hide.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM
In 2008 you would have been branded a racist for declaring that the Obama administration was this totalitarian. Ed Morrissey would have banned you from HA because you didn’t give the rat-eared bastard a chance to prove what a wonderful leader he is.
Five years later, things are a tad different.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM
They aren’t concerned about what the regime is doing to FOXnews. Most of them despise FOXnews.
They are concerned Dear Leader may be investigating them. And they are concerned their sources might clam up.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 7:37 PM
Agreed but there is a slight difference. Nixon’s thin skin was mostly about his policies. The rat-eared coward will not abide any criticism of him directly. If Nixon had that standard he would have died of a heart attack by the end of 1972.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM
You notice that, too?
In the 1963 James Bond movie From Russia with Love , the strategy of the criminal organization SPECTRE is compared to three Siamese fighting in the same tank: Two will fight each other to the death while the third will wait its turn to fight the exhausted victor, symbolizing the conflict between the USA and the Soviet Union, with SPECTRE as the fish that waits.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Evil and insidious.
Rode Werk on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
They probably have him locked up in the White House basement with duct tape over his mouth. I mean, if Biden knows ANYTHING, it will come out of his mouth at some point.
CJ on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
DISCLAIMER: I am not in anyway suggesting that Rosen is a spy, merely bringing up the question for discussion, because I feel like the press has published a lot of stuff during other administrations that should have stayed under wraps (not everything, because sometimes the government has to be outed when they are just trying to cover-up political malfeasance with no national security import):
If a reporter publishes classified information and the enemy reads it, how is that substantively different from handing it over in secret?
The sources knew Rosen intended to reveal classified information, by publishing it; how is this not collusion?
AesopFan on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
I agree. Everything that’s coming out now is completely consistent with everything Obama has done in the past.
INC on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
I really agree with CJ. I just love the Siamese fighting fish strategy.
However, who really knows what goes on in Joe O’ Biden’s mind?
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 7:44 PM
Obama has done in the past.
INC on May 21, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Or insinuated..said.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Update:
Bret Baier has now reported that in addition to records from James Rosen’s work phone, cell phone and email, the DOJ also seized the phone records of James Rosen’s parents.
Yes, his parents.
Zcat on May 21, 2013 at 7:46 PM
and they all laugh with the President at the Correspondents dinner.
rob verdi on May 21, 2013 at 7:47 PM
President Barack Obama told his supporters at a campaign rally – inside a public high school, no less – to vote for revenge! That definitely sounds like something the Rev. Jeremiah Wright would say, comparable to the infamous “Godd—- America” quote and other phrases that he delivered to his masses when Barack Obama was in the audience instead of standing before the masses delivering his own type of hate.
Never have Americans heard a president tell his constituents, just four days before a national presidential election, tell Americans: “Voting is the best revenge!”
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Ronald Machen’s name has come up before in some other leak cases hasn’t it..?
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Best and potentially most lucrative job in America right now: Legal counsel to James Rosen. Hope he sues the shit out of them and, in the process, expose Holder and Obama for the tyrants that they are.
TXUS on May 21, 2013 at 7:49 PM
Is Ronald Machen the insulation for Eric Holder’s misdeeds..?
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM
I thought he would be transformational, a new era for the country.
arnold ziffel on May 21, 2013 at 7:51 PM
Obama said this:
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.“
Walk down memory lane…
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM
He is in remedial “oath of office” training.
hillsoftx on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Friends..awwww
Left-wing radical Bill Ayers, a longtime friend of President Barack Obama, recently defended the series of bombings that he carried out as a member of the Weather Underground, saying that his bombings were not like the Boston Marathon attack and that America is the most violent country that has ever been created.
Ayers has since served as a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago and has been a “family friend” to Obama, who previously lived in Chicago’s Hyde Park neighborhood, where Ayers and wife Bernadine Dohrn reside.
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Don’t see what the MSM is so concerned about. Barry just has Holder keeping his media whores in line.
GarandFan on May 21, 2013 at 7:54 PM
Keep burning those bridges Obama. One by one.
txhsmom on May 21, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Death by a 1000 cuts..
lets go. Slice~
bazil9 on May 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM
They no marchers.
They fluffers
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 7:56 PM
OT …
Did the senate just pass an amnesty bill ?
Lucano on May 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM
He’s a nice person, so said Mitt Romney. Gag.
SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 7:59 PM
He sits quietly on the balcony, shot gun at the ready.
Lily on May 21, 2013 at 8:00 PM
You’ve yet to prove that Rosen knew the information he was getting was classified. The traditional balance is to go out after the leaker and not the reporter. Rosen was named a co-conspirator so that differentiation was moot.
Are you really this stupid?
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM
I remember when the government used to hunt down and kill enemies and leave the rest of us alone. They had this wild idea about a Bill of Rights.
They made mistakes, sure, like the incarceration of Japanese Americans and the genocide of American Indians. Racist? Well they sure fried tons of Germans!
And our old LEOs would have sized up the Marathon bomber gang pretty fast and quietly dumped them right back in the Jihad happy pastures from whence they came.
Now we have an alphabet of agencies, a crossword puzzle of issues and a world wide war going on with spending and strategy issues worthy of three dimensional chess.
We need a “reset” button, alright, but it ain’t the one Hillary made a mess of in Russia.
Repeal every law passed since 1928.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:05 PM
Perhaps the WH can see that theyve made their most loyal lap dogs angry and fear losing their cover so theyve convened this little confab at the WH today to try and bolster their national security argument. These MSMers hate Fox News so that doesnt really bother them and Holder testified that the AP stuff was justified. Wonder if their bogus argument will appease the royal azz kissers in the MSM.
neyney on May 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Go check Supreme Court decisions on this, counselor.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:06 PM
It may be a long time before elite East and West coast lefties support someone from Chicago for President again.
It must offend their sense of superior liberal propriety to see raw Chicago style thuggery and ham-handed bumbling incompetence on display now day after day after day. The Chicago Gang gets away with in Chicago because there is no political opposition, the local media is either cowed or fully on board worth the program, and the majority of the population is on the take in one way or another.
When it seemed to be working and no one knew about it the lib elites on the coasts loved it. Or at least they tolerated it. Things have changed.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 8:07 PM
What would it take to get Jarrett, under oath, in front of congress? I, like many here, suspect most of the current scandals lead through her and maybe even stop before it reaches her sock puppet in the west wing.
SteveInRTP on May 21, 2013 at 8:09 PM
fully on board
worthwithfarsighted on May 21, 2013 at 8:10 PM
Sorry, sir. I get nasty at times and don’t like it when I do.
I meant to say that reporter Rosen is exempt from charges by stare decisis of SCOTUS in numerous cases dating from the famous Pentagon Papers on and was free to accept classified materials and publish them.
IlikedAUH2O on May 21, 2013 at 8:11 PM
I’m really starting to wonder how Obama twists his way out this time. Regardless, his legacy is destroyed, as is any hope of any kind of meaningful legislation in his second term.
It’s over.
Fuhgeddaboudit.
Chris of Rights on May 21, 2013 at 8:13 PM
this is working out swimmingly for barry and the schumer gang. Remember, barry decided to bite the bullet on the IRS and AP stories themselves…timing was essential. Weeks of distractions.
Risky..yeah, but barry is a risk taker…he usually wins big with the help of his friends
Will this even make the news?
and btw, both Frum and Kristol are agin the bill. Who…aside from corporate lobbyists like Barbour..are for it?
the left is worried about the big impact on wages, while the corporations make big bucks off this…who is for it? Well, aside from Google and KFC…and the DNC who are counting their votes over the next generation?
this is just like barrycare…except that the prog Rs and their big buck donors love it.
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:18 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/22/us-usa-immigration-idUSBRE94K00L20130522?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=992637
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:19 PM
We are not there yet. But the slim window for meaningful legislation in a second term is quickly closing by all these hearings into his administration’s epic misconduct. The hearings this week were supposed to be about amnesty for the illegals or gay marriage. It was not supposed to be about abuse of power, curtailment of civil rights, or perjury by administration officials.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM
This crew has never and will never give a rat’s a$$ about any of the amendments. Welcome to the start of the jackboot nation.
ghostwalker1 on May 21, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Valerie Jarrett is Keyser Soze.
can_con on May 21, 2013 at 8:27 PM
sorry to keep talking about immigration. the FT has a big article on what a big Win this was for Silicon Valley
basically, they do not have to offer jobs to Americans first…see? It is great…big rally tomorrow in the markets. More $$$$$$$ than they can count…and the poli-crooks will get their slice. Looks like mario and flake won the lottery!!!!! yay!!!!
/
r keller on May 21, 2013 at 8:33 PM
So, somebody should tell Maureen Dowd that while Gibbsy isn’t “reading” her, someone in the White House may very well be “listening” to her.
parke on May 21, 2013 at 8:43 PM
My stomach churns whenever this regime even MENTIONS leaks !!!
Ask SEAL Team Six.
Ask the doctor who helped them.
Ask …. shoot, surely we find so many others who’ve paid the price for zero’s arrogant BLARING of leaks !!!
SPIT !!!
pambi on May 21, 2013 at 8:58 PM
The media not liking it when their pimp starts tracking their every move?
And why not? The Chicago Big owns his press, they are just his whores turning tricks (stories with the AP/Reuters banner) for him.
Get used to getting beat up you media sluts.
….and just like the battered wife, they go back and want some more thumping so they’ll feel reassured.
PappyD61 on May 21, 2013 at 9:21 PM
I hope James Rosen and his parents show up on The Daily Show.
monalisa on May 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM
The Mooche
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 12:41 AM
I hope that Ailes and Murdoch put out any amount of millions to defend the freedom of all the press.
Every sane leftists should help, alas.
They are all tyrants, fascists, never liberal/progressive.
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 12:42 AM