Obamateurism of the Day

posted at 8:05 am on March 30, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

In finally speaking to the nation about the war in Libya, Barack Obama insisted that he would not stray from the UN mandate, which only tasks NATO and other coalition partners with protecting civilians in Libya. Obama specifically rejected the notion that the US would pursue regime change through military means:

“Broadening our military mission to include regime change would be a mistake.”

Twenty-four hours later, Obama got a lot less categorical, or a lot more confused:

In an interview with NBC’s Brian Williams, President Obama didn’t rule out the U.S. would give arms to the Libyan opposition.

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in. We’re still making an assessment partly about what Khaddafy’s forces are going to be doing. Keep in mind, we’ve been at this now for nine days. And the degree to which we’ve degraded Khadaffy’s forces in those nine days has been significant.”

Well, perhaps no one has informed the President of this, but running arms to rebel armies is a military intervention.  Supplying weapons to forces looking to overthrow a nation’s government is a clear cassus belli, a military provocation that makes the supplying nation a belligerent — especially when the supplying nation is simultaneously bombing the government’s military.  And since the entire point of a rebellion is regime change, then arming the rebellion in Libya is most certainly a military alliance for that purpose.

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Flip-flopper in chief. Change we can’t believe in.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 8:08 AM

And another point, is that He will NEVER be re-elected with these numbers. Evah.

You won’t believe your eyes.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:09 AM

winning!

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:11 AM

Well, perhaps no one has informed the President of this, but running arms to rebel armies is a military intervention.

No one tells this president anything. His handlers simply sit him down in front of TOTUS & tell him to read. A completely empty suit…

KS Rex on March 30, 2011 at 8:12 AM

Does Odamna have any understanding of self-censorship? Or does he bleet out whatever fleeting thought happens to be bouncing around in his vacuous noggin?

Whether it is accidental or intentional, this man is placing our nation in great danger. 2012 cannot come soon enough.

Crusader Rabbit on March 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:09 AM

hmmmmmm

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Judgment To Lead™.

Kafir on March 30, 2011 at 8:14 AM

Supplying weapons to forces looking to overthrow a nation’s government is a clear cassus belli, a military provocation that makes the supplying nation a belligerent

Iran has done that extensively in the Iraq conflict. Why then didn’t we help the Iranian opposition after the illegitimate “re-election” of AckMyDumbJihad? I know why, but we had far more reason to be involved–at the very least, with “words, just words” of support–there than in Libya.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 8:15 AM

Obama’s not being really specific, is he? Still say arming rebels is a bad idea…you never know in who’s hands those weapons will end up.

JetBoy on March 30, 2011 at 8:16 AM

talking out both sides of his mouth once again

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

And another point, is that He will NEVER be re-elected with these numbers. Evah.

You won’t believe your eyes.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:09 AM

Clinton had similar numbers at one point & subsequently cruised to re-election.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Keep in mind, we’ve been at this now for nine days.

You mean we’ve been at this now for over a week. Hmmmm.

Electrongod on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

Electrongod on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

nice catch….heh

we are moving to ‘months not years’

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:20 AM

He has no clue as to what he is doing…or does he?

kingsjester on March 30, 2011 at 8:21 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in.

Operation Hokey-Poke: You put your right foot in, you pull your right foot out, you do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself about….

ted c on March 30, 2011 at 8:22 AM

Old and busted: Not one dime
New and Hotness: Days, not weeks…

ted c on March 30, 2011 at 8:23 AM

Aren’t lies, confusion and promoting obfuscation a corner stone of the Obama administration?

albill on March 30, 2011 at 8:26 AM

Clinton had similar numbers at one point & subsequently cruised to re-election.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

But didn’t the little general ‘perot’ sort of screw up that whole scene? If I recall, clinton never did get 50% of the vote in either election.

lukespapa on March 30, 2011 at 8:30 AM

It’s not regime change it’s “kinetic government replacement.”

crazy_legs on March 30, 2011 at 8:35 AM

Every comment Duh Won makes is a WTF moment….. ‘winning the future’, of course.

/not

Cody1991 on March 30, 2011 at 8:36 AM

♫ And the circle
It goes ’round and ’round
And the painted ponies
Go up and down ♫

ss396 on March 30, 2011 at 8:36 AM

Clinton had similar numbers at one point & subsequently cruised to re-election.

Wouldn’t exactly call less than 50% against a p*ss poor GOP candidate and a third party “crus(ing) to reelection”

crazy_legs on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

hmmmmmm

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM

The truth is coming out. Slowly but surely. The man is unfit to lead and it’s apparent that he may be the equivalent of a speechifying meat puppet. Maybe he’ll do everyone a favor and step aside.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

The Foruth Estate sees such contradictions as the maneuvering of a gifted mind…

mjbrooks3 on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Rush had it right yesterday……….

The OBAMA Doctrine (and everything he does) is about one thing and one thing only.

Making sure he gets another 4 years to bring this country to it’s knees in November 2012

PappyD61 on March 30, 2011 at 8:44 AM

What kind of cinc is this, who gives out conflicting positions on a non war, kma, limited scope, action but will give a date certain when we’ll be out of 2 actual wars when fighting is still going on. Reminds me of those oldie lyrics, first you say you will, and then you won’t, first you say you do, and then you don’t, what am I gonna do.

Kissmygrits on March 30, 2011 at 8:44 AM

The Foruth Estate sees such contradictions as the maneuvering of a gifted mind…

mjbrooks3 on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

When one considers their orientation, lack of depth on many issues and general arrogance it’s understandable that they think Barry’s meandering mind is indicative of thoughtfulness and consideration. They’re so brainwashed that they never question the assumption that he’s “brilliant.”

Cody1991 on March 30, 2011 at 8:45 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in.

The man’s looking at a fifty yard chip shot, and he’s got a three-iron in his hands. Duh!

Welcome to the Caddyshack Presidency.

Rovin on March 30, 2011 at 8:46 AM

The Foruth Estate sees such contradictions as the maneuvering of a gifted mind…

mjbrooks3 on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Fourth Estate a/k/a Fifth Column

50sGuy on March 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Apparently Obama and Hillary are unaware of the UN security council’s arms embargo resolution from February that prevents supplying weapons,ammo, and military vehicles to Libya (including resistance).

ConservativeMom on March 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM

It’s kenetic 9 days.

tinkerthinker on March 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Wouldn’t that be awesome KWR :)

cmsinaz on March 30, 2011 at 8:51 AM

And another point, is that He will NEVER be re-elected with these numbers. Evah.
You won’t believe your eyes.
Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:09 AM

There are some very frightening numbers in that poll, IYKWIMAITTYD…

90%?

Even today?

turfmann on March 30, 2011 at 8:52 AM

And another point, is that He will NEVER be re-elected with these numbers. Evah.

You won’t believe your eyes.

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 8:09 AM

I like this sentence from the article you linked:

“Some reasons for his overall numbers might be that Obama receives negative ratings on his handling of the budget deficit, the economy, foreign policy, health care and energy policy.”

Ya think?

DrStock on March 30, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Adults in charge.

NoFanofLibs on March 30, 2011 at 8:55 AM

Maybe Obama and his merry band should do their homework on who exactly it is they are supporting in their opposition against Khaddafy Duck.

Here is a good place for him to start, concerning a somewhat-less-than-fun bunch known as the LIFG, or the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group!

Take a good long hard look at their membership roster.

pilamaye on March 30, 2011 at 8:59 AM

If Venezuela and North Korea , Iran and maybe a few others come to the aide of Qaddafi by bombing our assets does that mean we are at War ??

wheels on March 30, 2011 at 8:59 AM

Even today?

turfmann on March 30, 2011 at 8:52 AM

Welfare class. Don’t you take my gumbint cheese away!

Key West Reader on March 30, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Apparently Obama and Hillary are unaware of the UN security council’s arms embargo resolution from February that prevents supplying weapons,ammo, and military vehicles to Libya (including resistance).

ConservativeMom on March 30, 2011 at 8:50 AM

Hillary’s got that covered. From yesterday:

Hillary Clinton has paved the way for the United States to arm the Libyan rebels by declaring that the recent UN security council resolution relaxed an arms embargo on the country…

But Clinton made clear that UN security council resolution 1973, which allowed military strikes against Muammar Gaddafi’s regime, relaxed the embargo. Speaking after the conference on Libya in London, Clinton said: “It is our interpretation that [resolution] 1973 amended or overrode the absolute prohibition of arms to anyone in Libya so that there could be legitimate transfer of arms if a country were to choose to do that. We have not made that decision at this time.”…

You can’t take your eyes off these people for a second.

Naturally Curly on March 30, 2011 at 9:00 AM

The Fourth Estate sees such contradictions as the maneuvering of a gifted mind…

mjbrooks3 on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

When one considers their orientation, lack of depth on many issues and general arrogance it’s understandable that they think Barry’s meandering mind is indicative of thoughtfulness and consideration. They’re so brainwashed that they never question the assumption that he’s “brilliant.”

Cody1991 on March 30, 2011 at 8:45 AM

That’s why these obamateurisms are little more than a fart in a hurricane, humorous though they may be. Until the MSM says it, it doesn’t exist.

SKYFOX on March 30, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Give the guy a break Ed. After all, he’s handicapped by being a Harvard Law School graduate.

Proof that fancy degrees don’t mean you know anything.

rbj on March 30, 2011 at 9:07 AM

crazy_legs on March 30, 2011 at 8:37 AM

Every poll showed that Perot took as many votes from Clinton as he did from Dole.
It does us no good to ignore the fact that Obama just might be re-elected.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in…”

Um, Brian, what is it about “present” that you do not understand?

Fallon on March 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM

Naturally Curly on March 30, 2011 at 9:00 AM

Obama and Hillary are violating the UN Arms Embargo.

And if there is one sure way to get the resolution “authorizing” the “no-fly zone” and such over Libya tossed to the curb, it will be the US (actually Obama) playing fast and loose with that resolution.

Any arms going in to Libya have to be approved by a committee…and as yet, no approval has been given. I doubt it will be approved. The Euros wanted a nice neat ouster of Gadaffi…several weeks ago…and the longer this goes the less neat all of it becomes.

Gadaffi has a case for the International Court of Justice and the EU Court…if the Euros start buying oil from the rebels there are indeed contractual requirements that are being violated.

Once Gadaffi is gone, then a whole new game…but he is still around and is the recognized sovereign government of Libya.

Can we say quagmire yet?

coldwarrior on March 30, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Clinton had similar numbers at one point & subsequently cruised to re-election.

itsnotaboutme on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 AM

But didn’t the little general ‘perot’ sort of screw up that whole scene? If I recall, clinton never did get 50% of the vote in either election.

lukespapa on March 30, 2011 at 8:30 AM

That is correct; Bill Clinton never got 50% of the vote… and H. Ross Perot did skew the 1992 election… there must be some REALLY BAD BLOOD between him and Bush 41 (probably Viet Nam related, or so I’ve heard)…

Khun Joe on March 30, 2011 at 9:11 AM

But didn’t the little general ‘perot’ sort of screw up that whole scene?

Ross perot, a general? Not.

A Naval Academy grad…back in the early 50′s, but he never made it past Lieutenant Junior Grade prior to leaving the Navy in ’57.

coldwarrior on March 30, 2011 at 9:15 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in.”

“Present.”

James on March 30, 2011 at 9:24 AM

Maybe Ed should change the title of this feature from “Obamateurism of the Day” to ‘Kenetic WTFs’.

percysunshine on March 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Obama’s not being really specific, is he? Still say arming rebels is a bad idea…you never know in who’s hands those weapons will end up.

JetBoy on March 30, 2011 at 8:16 AM

This administration has experience with supplying arms to rebels and documenting the results. So we’re all set baby, yah, good to go.

See: “Project Gunwalker”

scituate_tgr on March 30, 2011 at 9:58 AM

I’m feeling a tad troll-ish today, so I’ll just fill in.

Don’t you get it? Obama is sooooooooo smart, and sooooooo wonderful, and sooooooooooo awesome, his intelligence on this issue or any issue goes far beyond what us mere mortals can comprehend. He’s genius to our buying our underwear at K-mart.

That really hurt to type those adjectives in conjunction with Obama’s name. uuuuuuuuuugh!!!

capejasmine on March 30, 2011 at 10:06 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in.

So saith The Obamassiah! There is no issue The Won can not straddle.

GarandFan on March 30, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Well, perhaps no one has informed the President of this, but running arms to rebel armies is a military intervention.

I have researched Barak Obama’s Manual of Military Information and nowhere in there does it confirm your allegation that this arming of rebels in Libya is Military Intervention. Arming of our Border Patrol now that is in there. You must have confused the two.

Herb on March 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

NOW we’re talking about a pure amateurism. Most of the others are just badly hidden Marxisms. But the clear ineptitude with which all aspects of foreign policy have been pursued in the last 18 months is all the case which needs to be made to prove this man unfit for office.

These are the campaign commercial which need to be run against this charlatan.

We cannot let the socialists define the terms of the conversation, we must get louder than the enabling media.

Freelancer on March 30, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Is Obama clear and decisive in what he says? I’m not ruling it out. But I’m also not ruling it in, either.

Paul-Cincy on March 30, 2011 at 11:27 AM

I have researched Barak Obama’s Manual of Military Information and nowhere in there does it confirm your allegation that this arming of rebels in Libya is Military Intervention. Arming of our Border Patrol now that is in there. You must have confused the two.

Herb on March 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM

The trouble is Obowma is arming rebels on the Mexican side of the border rather than our American border patrol. We’ve had two of our US border patrol agents killed by American made weapons allowed to be sold and encouraged by this admistration, sold to Mexican drug rebels in order to enhance further gun laws.
Where is the investigation on Holder, Incompitano and others that are supporting murder of our American border agents?

dthorny on March 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Supplying weapons to forces looking to overthrow a nation’s government is a clear cassus belli, a military provocation that makes the supplying nation a belligerent — especially when the supplying nation is simultaneously bombing the government’s military.

Obama doesn’t seem to realize that after having his planes and tanks bombed, Gaddafi might be a little PO’d, and fight back. Gee, Mr. Hahvid Genius Communitay O’ganizah, who’d a thunk it?

Steve Z on March 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM

Is Obowma the worst president in American history?

I’m not ruling it out, but…screw it, yes he is.

dthorny on March 30, 2011 at 11:35 AM

“I’m not ruling it out,” the president said. “But I’m also not ruling it in. We’re still making an assessment partly about what Khaddafy’s forces are going to be doing. Keep in mind, we’ve been at this now for nine days. And the degree to which we’ve degraded Khadaffy’s forces in those nine days has been significant.”

Right, the ragtags are on the run from one town and oil field to the other.

Then, latest HA thread “Military action in all out mode against Kaddafi”.

Obama, Winning the Future (WTF), one waffling at a time.

Name one people who are free due to Obama (not the Black Panthers).

Schadenfreude on March 30, 2011 at 12:30 PM

Supplying weapons to forces looking to overthrow a nation’s government is a clear cassus belli, a military provocation that makes the supplying nation a belligerent — especially when the supplying nation is simultaneously bombing the government’s military. And since the entire point of a rebellion is regime change, then arming the rebellion in Libya is most certainly a military alliance for that purpose.

That wasn’t a part of the Community Organizer core curriculum.

But he’s doin’ the bestest he can.

BobMbx on March 30, 2011 at 12:51 PM

Supplying weapons to forces looking to overthrow a nation’s government is a clear cassus belli, a military provocation that makes the supplying nation a belligerent

Paging Colonel North to the White Briefing Room….Col. Oliver North to the Briefing Room…STAT.

BobMbx on March 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

Don’t count Obama out as being reelected, it all depends on how many voters they can get out of Cemetery. Why do you think Democrats have fought so hard to prevent Voters from having to present ID prior to voting.

old war horse on March 30, 2011 at 1:58 PM

But he’s only going to give them “Bean Bag guns”!

DSchoen on March 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Paging Colonel North to the White Briefing Room….Col. Oliver North to the Briefing Room…STAT.
BobMbx on March 30, 2011 at 12:55 PM

when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal

I not a crook!

DSchoen on March 30, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Barack Obama is doing what he’s done all his life – wing it out of laziness and ignorance. Let other people clean up after him, as usual.

disa on March 30, 2011 at 5:18 PM