ABC: GOP, Dems reach tentative budget deal involving “at least $33 billion” in cuts; Update: No deal?

posted at 7:09 pm on March 30, 2011 by Allahpundit

So there’s the secret top-line figure we knew of but didn’t have a number for. $33 billion — and maybe a bit more — pegging this just north of half of the GOP’s target for the year.

Good enough, tea partiers?

Sources tell me that budget negotiators on Capitol Hill have tentatively agreed on a deal that would involve at least $33 billion in spending cuts from this year’s budget. That’s $23 billion dollars more than Democrats have previously agreed to in short-term continuing resolutions, and $28 billion less than Republicans previously passed in the House…

The deal could still fall apart over the composition of the cuts, or policy “riders” previously passed by the House. These include issues like de-funding Planned Parenthood and President Obama’s health care legislation. It’s also not clear that this compromise will fly with rank-and-file House Republicans, which means that the $33 billion goal could still climb by a few billion. But this is most significant progress since the beginning of negotiations.

Riddle me this. Given how intent the base is to not see the leadership cave and accept smaller cuts, even if it means a shutdown, why would Boehner signal that he’s willing to accept smaller cuts before a firm deal has been struck? It’s one thing to irritate grassroots righties if you’re winning centrists in the process by nailing down a compromise, but if negotiations end up collapsing over O-Care or PP funding, then he’s got angry conservatives on the one hand and disillusioned moderates on the other. Lose/lose.

Before you throw up your hands and decide that it’s third-party time, though, here’s a bit of breaking news from The Hill: “Senate Republicans will finally unveil their balanced budget amendment tomorrow, this time with leadership (I.e., McConnell) on board.” That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA. Works for me, but for non-RINOs? We’ll see.

Update: Dan Foster at NRO says to beware of Democrats bearing compromises:

“They are setting us up by saying there is a deal,” the [Republican] source says, “so when there isn’t one by 4/8, they can claim they had a deal but we backed out.”


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This is like trying to patch the 30 foot hole in the side of the Titanic with a Bicycle Tire patch.

SHUT IT DOWN. SHUT IT ALL DOWN.

portlandon on March 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Chump change.

bernzright777 on March 30, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Forget 3rd Party, that’s a flooded, uneven, potholed, gravel path full of roadkill to nowhere.

This is a large chunk of America either staying home or voting for the current crop of losers and waiting for it all to finally fall apart.

Bishop on March 30, 2011 at 7:15 PM

TO put this in perspective. If $1000 represented the whole budget, of which $400 is borrowed, this $33 million represents just ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Good enough, tea partiers?

No.

I will accept it only if they go with a Rand Paul budget next year.

rbj on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA.

Is there a commenter on this site who believes they will make good on the promise to “go nuclear” next year?

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Tell everyone you know, this budget cut of 33 million just represents one penny for every $1000 spent by the federal government.

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:17 PM

They don’t care about us. We are alone. They go to the same parties..they are friends across the isle..they compromise blah blah.

They could’ve killed healthcare…nope…make real cuts…nope. And when Ryan submits his budget, they will cave. Not ready to pack it in…but im getting close! :(

Send me more request for money, RNC..i love coming up w/ more curse words!

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:17 PM

…$33 billion — and maybe a bit more — pegging this just north of half of the GOP’s target for the year.

Good enough, tea partiers?

Don’t you mean, good enough to stave off disaster, Americans?

WitchDoctor on March 30, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Is there a commenter on this site who believes they will make good on the promise to “go nuclear” next year?

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Maybe they will find the balls to cut an extra penny per thousand next year. Yeah, that is nuclear all right!!!

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Spit meet bucket…..

CynicalOptimist on March 30, 2011 at 7:18 PM

More like change from chumps; time to push for a replacement in 2012- or else.

michaelo on March 30, 2011 at 7:19 PM

Why does Boehner always look like he just polished off a fifth of Old Panther Breath? Is it just me? Is my eye jaundiced or something? He ALWAYS reminds me of a drunk/alcoholic trying to hide the fact that he’s drunk. It would explain alot about his governing “style”/effectiveness.

Just wondering. Apologies to all the Boehner zealots out there.

JimP on March 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

I wrote my congressman, Sean Duffy, and asked him a question. If Republicans can’t hold tough and obtain $61B in cuts for fiscal 2011 then how do you expect to make the really tough cuts required in FY2012?
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Sometimes you have to play the long game. This is one of those times. Cave now at this stage and you throw in the towel before you even get into the ring.

Metanis on March 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

33 billion is pathetic.

Thune on March 30, 2011 at 7:22 PM

And Harry Reid willgloat, “See, Boehner took my advice and dumped the Tea Party.”

Wethal on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Is there a commenter on this site who believes they will make good on the promise to “go nuclear” next year?

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

No. And I want the Senate to agree to even more extreme cuts than this current budget deal promises.

onlineanalyst on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

I wrote my rep…Cathy McMorris Rogers…she told me they cut 6billion! Wow..thats rad! See…all better

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

They don’t care about us. We are alone. They go to the same parties..they are friends across the isle..they compromise blah blah.

They could’ve killed healthcare…nope…make real cuts…nope. And when Ryan submits his budget, they will cave. Not ready to pack it in…but im getting close! :(

Send me more request for money, RNC..i love coming up w/ more curse words!

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:17 PM

How could they have killed health care? Republicans did not compromise on that and they still lost.

The thing is the Democrats still have the Senate.

I was watching Special Report tonight and Krauthammer said they should take a compromise and move onto the 2012 budget rather than continue to bicker over this one. He also said it would be a disaster for Republicans if they fail to reach a compromise and the government shut down. Looks like the Democrats have Boehner between a rock and a hard place.

Most Americans are going to be unhappy no matter what they do. That is just a fact.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Three words for you, ladies and gentlemen:

STILL.

NOT.

ENOUGH!

gryphon202 on March 30, 2011 at 7:24 PM

“Senate Republicans will finally unveil their balanced budget amendment tomorrow, this time with leadership (I.e., McConnell) on board.” That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA. Works for me, but for non-RINOs? We’ll see.

I think this is the plan. That plan also might have something to do with Paul Ryan’s budget plans he will be releasing in a day or two.

It is all a muddle.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:25 PM

This is why we can’t have nice things. Or a nice country.

Rambotito on March 30, 2011 at 7:26 PM

We knew this was coming and its less than nothing. Just cheap cover for doing nothing.

“Senate Republicans will finally unveil their balanced budget amendment tomorrow, this time with leadership (I.e., McConnell) on board.”

And what chance does this have of passing?

sharrukin on March 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

So much for the budget ass kicking

Kini on March 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

I wrote my rep…Cathy McMorris Rogers…she told me they cut 6billion! Wow..thats rad! See…all better

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

When you think about it, they get a few billion in cuts every time they get a CR, in a few months that adds up to real money. They could cut 100 billion a year that way.

Too bad the Democrats did not lose the Senate. If Harry Reid was gone and Coons was not there that would help. Every vote would help. But with a Democratic majority in the Senate, the House can only do so much.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

When Ryan releases his plan, dingy harry will say “It’s dead on arrival.” They will not risk a shutdown, so they will cave. The left changes the rules to get what they want..we do things to please Krauthammer and the other elites.

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:29 PM

This is sooooo stupid. Does anyone…ANYONE…think the GOP, much less the democrats, will cut anything out of next year budget?!!? NEXT YEAR IS AN ELECTION YEAR!

New saying, “You can lead the GOP leadership to a trap and they’ll fall in every time!”

SouthernGent on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Here we go with this balanced budget amendment again. It’s meaningless because it’s never going to get the 3/4ths of the states required to make it part of the Constitution. It can’t be taken seriously.

Mark1971 on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

So much for the budget ass kicking

Kini on March 30, 2011 at 7:27 PM

Most conservatives feel like they have been kicked in the ass, so I think we may have just misunderstood who Mr Weepy was going to kick.

sharrukin on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

It’s one thing to irritate grassroots righties if you’re winning centrists in the process by nailing down a compromise

Seriously, who are these “centrists” who are just waiting for the Republicans to agree to more spending and less budget cuts so they can cast a vote for Republicans on election day? It’s an absurd notion.

Buddahpundit on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

I will keep repeating this:

They are only cutting ONE PENNY for every $1000 they are spending!!!!!!!!!!!!! And remember $400 of every $1000 is BORROWED.

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

Boehner, loose the tan and grow a pair

400lb Gorilla on March 30, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Pay very close attention to how this vote comes down. It was impossible to flush enough garbage down the toilet with just the 2010 election. It is up to the American people to wake up and choose leadership that is not corrupt to the core like democrats and establishment GOP. Honestly these morons don’t realize that the democrats and the TEA Party are the two main parties and the establishment GOP is the third party now. Without blacks, the democrats could not exist. Without the conservatives, the GOP could not exist.

volsense on March 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM

“Senate Republicans will finally unveil their balanced budget amendment tomorrow, this time with leadership (I.e., McConnell) on board.” That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA. Works for me, but for non-RINOs? We’ll see.

If the GOP really does offer up a serious 2012 budget the reforms entitlement spending and includes a balanced budget amendment, then I’m ok with this compromise.

Obviously that type of 2012 budget will never pass as long as the Dems control the Senate and the White House, but the Republicans better at least go out there and make their case. Come 2013 though when(God willing) they control all 3 branches of government, there are no more excuses.

Doughboy on March 30, 2011 at 7:34 PM

alright, Im a TPPer. My view is evolving here.

At this point I saw fxck it, pass the damned 33b in cuts and move to the real substantive issue of the Paul Ryan Budget that comes out next week.

The way the Dems are sloooow rolling this we will be arguing over the stupid ’11 CRs while the HUGE ISSUES, Entitlements, Real Cuts languish away and all the energy is drained form the populace b4 we get there.

ginaswo on March 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM

If the government shuts down, which services will be shut off?
02.23.11
*********

The rumor mill on Capitol Hill has the nation anticipating a federal government shutdown, which could happen in nine days if Democrats and Republicans can’t agree on the federal spending plan for the remainder of the current fiscal year, which ends on Sept. 30. The current plan runs out on March 4.

According to the Washington Post, federal agencies are preparing, individually, to operate at reduced levels in the event of a government shutdown, which the Obama administration has said it is trying to avoid. Exactly which departments would be closed and which federal workers would be sent home has not been revealed.

But when a government “shuts down,” it doesn’t actually shut down completely — just those those services that are not considered to be “essential,” such as tours at the National Mall or getting rid of the animal poop at the National Zoo (which actually happened during the last government shutdowns in 1995 and early 1996, the Washington Post’s Ed O’Keefe told Fox 5 Morning News).

Watch O’Keefe’s analysis of the situation on Fox 5 Morning News:(Video)
———

emporary Spending Bill Needed To Avoid A Government Shutdown: MyFoxDC.com

“Essential” services, according to the Office of Management and Budget, are defined as those that are “essential to the national security or the safety of life and property”; provide for benefit payments and the performance of contract obligations; and provide essential activities that protect life and property, such as medical and emergency care, public health and safety, air traffic control, border surveillance, law enforcement and protection of federal prisons.

Per a Congressional Research Service report from November 1999, the five-day federal shutdown in November 2005 resulted in the furlough of about 800,000 federal employees. The 21-day shutdown from December to January 1996 resulted in approximately 284,000 furloughs, while another 475,000 federal employees continued to work “in a non-pay status,” meaning their federal health benefits continued.

Other consequences of the’05 shutdown, according to the report:

New patients were not accepted into clinical research at the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center, and hotline calls concerning disease were not answered.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention ceased disease surveillance.
Toxic waste clean-up work ceased at 609 sites.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms experienced delays processing alcohol, tobacco, firearms, and explosives applications.
Work on more than 3,500 bankruptcy cases was suspended.
Delinquent child-support cases were suspended.
368 National Park Service sites were closed.
200,000 U.S. applications for passports went unprocessed, as did 20,000-30,000 applications by foreigners for visas every day.
All 13,500 Department of Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs employees were furloughed.
An estimated 25,000 American Indians did not receive timely payments of oil and gas royalties.
But the mail was delivered.
(More……….)

http://washingtonindependent.com/105792/if-the-government-shuts-down-which-services-will-be-shut-off

canopfor on March 30, 2011 at 7:35 PM

I guess Boehner is impotent.

grapeknutz on March 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

When you think about it, they get a few billion in cuts every time they get a CR, in a few months that adds up to real money. They could cut 100 billion a year that way.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

If they managed to cut $100 billion, that would represent THREE PENNYS for every $1000 spent in this budget.

Whooop de do.

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

If Boehners promise of 100 billion has been reduced to 33 billion, am I really supposed to think this is a ‘good deal’? Boehner KNOWS this kind of a deal will ONLY pass using house democrats and a handfull of his high spending power hungry Republicans.

Such a vote will effectively end Boehners role as speaker of the House. He will simply be seen as the usefull tool for the Democrats to use while they drive their socialist agenda forward!

Freddy on March 30, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Weak….

therightwinger on March 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM

What a joke. John Boehner is a failure.

jawkneemusic on March 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM

I will keep repeating this:

They are only cutting ONE PENNY for every $1000 they are spending!!!!!!!!!!!!! And remember $400 of every $1000 is BORROWED.

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:31 PM

karenhasfreedom:”AstroPoliticalCriminalNomical”!!!!!!!:)

canopfor on March 30, 2011 at 7:37 PM

They don’t care about us. We are alone. They go to the same parties..they are friends across the isle..they compromise blah blah.

They could’ve killed healthcare…nope…make real cuts…nope. And when Ryan submits his budget, they will cave. Not ready to pack it in…but im getting close! :(

Send me more request for money, RNC..i love coming up w/ more curse words!

WhatsRight on March 30, 2011 at 7:17 PM

They’re the kids in Debate Club, they take turns on various arguements and then go home and pop zits.
They are an incestuous cabal and until they are cleansed we’re phuqued.

darwin-t on March 30, 2011 at 7:38 PM

Cutting 60 BILLION out of 1400 BILLION dollar deficit is not a win its NO DIFFERENCE!

They are both DEMOCRATS for all intensive purposes.

If I gave one of you 1400 dollars the other 1360 and myself 1340 Whats the difference? What can you buy that I can’t.

Now multiply those numbers by a Billion!

1400 x 1,000,000,000! NO DIFFERENCE!

Yep THIRD PARTY that embraces disaffected conservatives from both parties!

And leave the social issues to the States where they belong!

dhunter on March 30, 2011 at 7:39 PM

That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next,

They can go expletive deleted themselves. If not this year, when? Who is stupid enough to think that next year will be any different. Most of this garbage is just intended to buy time until the economy improves enough to go back to business as usual.

JavelinaBomb on March 30, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Another Boehner-Cantor fail pandering to the Democrats again, tail wagging the dog! Hope some one primaries both these useless Republican RINO’s.

What about the 105 billion?

Sandybourne on March 30, 2011 at 7:40 PM

There was a post earlier today talking about the Tea Party running out of energy. Geee, I wonder why that is if after Nov. 2010 this is the best Boehner and Co. can come up with.

P-A-T-H-E-T-I-C

angryed on March 30, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Its about what was going to be done unless you make wholesale changes to SS and Medicare.
Think todays politician are going to do that?

jjshaka on March 30, 2011 at 7:42 PM

I’m all for pushing “more, More, MORE!!”, but I’m willing to take a tactical…compromise…now to settle what the Democrats couldn’t wouldn’t do last year, in order to start the battle fresh for a full budget.

But we MUST keep up the pressure, lest our representatives think we’re no longer paying attention.

JeffWeimer on March 30, 2011 at 7:42 PM

TO put this in perspective. If $1000 represented the whole budget, of which $400 is borrowed, this $33 million represents just ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, ONE PENNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

I’m assuming you meant $33 billion, but even so, you misplaced a couple of zeros there.

To make the math simple, let’s assume the budget is $3.3 trillion (yes, it’s more than that) or $3300 billion. $33 billion is 1% of $3300 billion. 1% of $1000 is $10, not $0.01.

strictnein on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

I’d much rather we just “went to the mattresses” instead of this silly a$$ game of trying to make it look like they are actually serious about saving our country’s future!

Let’s DO THIS!

Star20 on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

It might be time to bury the rotting elephant corpse and replace it with a real opposition party. They will always play the “screw the conservatives, they got nowhere else to go” game until they are history.

They can be supplanted as quickly as the Republicans supplanted the Whigs.

Buddahpundit on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Chump Change, and to answer an above poster yes, I believe Boehner is an alcoholic.
It totally explains his inappropriate emotions!

His simpering and whimpering at the drop of a hat!

For those who say a third party is a looser, I say look stupid, this is a looser, so we keep voting in Repubs and Dems and always lose, but hell, were gonna keep doin it cause we’re gonna lose if we vote third party!

Yea good logic there, don’t vote for the third party conservatives, disaffected Repugnantcans and Democraps, cause you’ll vote in the other party that’s a loser cause their both losers!

Thats’ Sense! Sense!

dhunter on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

This is ABC’s stupid pet trick to get the Repubs on the defensive.

Lonetown on March 30, 2011 at 7:46 PM

Thank God! We need to get the Dems leftovers out of the way so we can focus on our budget and our priorities, which will include comprehensive reform led by Paul Ryan. The last thing we need is a govt shutdown.

Buy Danish on March 30, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Is there a commenter on this site who believes they will make good on the promise to “go nuclear” next year?

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

And if we give amnesty to all the illegals, they’ll actually enforce the border this time … really! Pinky swear!

thirteen28 on March 30, 2011 at 7:48 PM

I was watching Special Report tonight and Krauthammer said they should take a compromise and move onto the 2012 budget rather than continue to bicker over this one. He also said it would be a disaster for Republicans if they fail to reach a compromise and the government shut down.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:23 PM

Seems like Krauthammer no longer cares about what the defacing of the dollar will do to this country. Notice how his comments increasing try to direct opinion and not shine light on issues.

Freddy on March 30, 2011 at 7:49 PM

We borrow 31 billion in 8-9 days, and 100 billion in 25 days.
That said we need to be smart and not be penny wise and pound foolish.
On to FY 2012 and the Ryan plan!

silverfox on March 30, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Time to primary every Republican in office, including my own. Grow a pair or get the hell out of the way, GOP!

Mini-14 on March 30, 2011 at 7:53 PM

So there’s the secret top-line figure we knew of but didn’t have a number for. $33 billion — and maybe a bit more — pegging this just north of half of the GOP’s target for the year.

Which makes your analysis in a previous posting – pretty … wrong. As expected – the $30B number was the starting point – not the $61B number.

Boehner should resign.

WITNESS THE POWER OF THIS FULLY ARMED AND OPERATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY!!

meh.

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Good enough, tea partiers?

No…

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2011 at 7:56 PM

Perspective:

Unless entitlements are substantially reformed, the U.S. will likely default on its debt; not in conventional ways, but via inflation, currency devaluation and low to negative real interest rates…But that is not the reality. As others, such as Pete Peterson of the Blackstone Group and Mary Meeker, have shown much better and for far longer than I, the true but unrecorded debt of the U.S. Treasury is not $9.1 trillion or even $11-12 trillion when Agency and Student Loan liabilities are thrown in, but $65 trillion more! This country appears to have an off-balance-sheet, unrecorded debt burden of close to 500% of GDP! We are out-Greeking the Greeks, dear reader.

Weight of Glory on March 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Good enough, tea partiers?

Not . . . even . . . close . . . bub.

I’m reminded of Wile E. Coyote opening the tiny umbrella to stave off getting crushed by the megaton boulder.

Seriously, are we just screwing around or what?

For starters, go back to 2006 spending levels. Then, we’ll talk.

Pablo Snooze on March 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

While Boehner was agreeing to $33 billion in cuts, the US Treasury borrowed another $29 billion in one auction of 7-year notes today.

In other words, all this posturing and negotiating was only worth the proceeds from one lousy Treasury auction.

That 7-year note auction, by the way, brought the US Debt To $14.311 Trillion, which is more Than The Debt Ceiling.

Emperor Norton on March 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Time to primary every Republican in office, including my own. Grow a pair or get the hell out of the way, GOP!

Mini-14 on March 30, 2011 at 7:53 PM

YEP! Everyone there over two terms needs to have a conservative primary opponent, its’ either this or third party cause the two party two step is sellin us into slavery!

Ordered my seeds and plants this weekend! check
Shipped today! check
Got my concealed carry permit! check
Gotta get a new handgun ruger security six too big to conceal! check!
By more ammo at gun show this weekend! check
Fill freezer with venison! check!

dhunter on March 30, 2011 at 7:58 PM

A lot of time wasted on the small stuff. I agree, get it settled and out of the way and move on to the biggies. That’s the 2012 budget and the debt ceiling fights.

Oleta on March 30, 2011 at 7:59 PM

That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA. Works for me, but for non-RINOs? We’ll see.

It WORKS for you?

First … the amendment they are proposing LOCKS IN deficit spending. The amendment purportedly “caps” federal spending at 21% of GDP – but we have ONLY once collected that amount in revenues in the last 100 years and that was in 2001.

The rest of the years – for the last century – we’ve collected right at about 17% of GDP in government revenue – regardless of the tax law at the time. Some years we only collected 15%!!

And … let’s say we DID collect 21% in revenues every year – and spent that much – what does that leave to pay down the debt? Answer = 0.

Additionally – even if this was a good amendment – which it isn’t – it could take a decade to get it passed. Let’s see Allah – how much more in debt could the Democrats and Republicans rack up in that amount of time.

This is RUSE – the GOP is a JOKE – smoke and mirrors – bread and circuses for the masses. Ridiculous.

This ship is going DOWN folks.

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 7:59 PM

I really, really wish I could say I’m surprised.

In one sense I am. I’m kind of surprised they did this much. Though it remains to be seen how much of this is real spending reduction and how much of this is Washington accounting gimmicks.

Stephen Macklin on March 30, 2011 at 8:00 PM

I’m assuming you meant $33 billion, but even so, you misplaced a couple of zeros there.

To make the math simple, let’s assume the budget is $3.3 trillion (yes, it’s more than that) or $3300 billion. $33 billion is 1% of $3300 billion. 1% of $1000 is $10, not $0.01.

strictnein on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Thanks to those who are attempting to put this into a math and real world context that can be understood by general folks, like me. We know that “trillions” and “billions” are meaningless and uncomprehensible. How about an example that has a family with a debt of $100,000, and that builds various easily understood scenarios off of that? Easy for me to suggest, but maybe there are out there for whom this is easy to do?

GaltBlvnAtty on March 30, 2011 at 8:02 PM

strictnein on March 30, 2011 at 7:44 PM

Thanks for getting this right. I was using a spreadsheet to try to figure it out.

So they are cutting just $10 for every $1000 spent in this fiscal year with this $33 billion “compromise” (cave).

Still with numbers like that, $10 is almost the same as 1 penny. If you had $1000 of your own money on the table, you wouldn’t miss $10 any more than a penny, really.

This is just very distressing. I am going to go watch survivor. RealityTV, a nice diversion from our real reality!!

karenhasfreedom on March 30, 2011 at 8:03 PM

Actions speak louder than words. We are going to default on our debt. And not by accident.

JavelinaBomb on March 30, 2011 at 8:04 PM

MY GOD OREALLY? is delusional call in the men in white coats.

Says OBlahBlah ended the bush overagressiveness by getting international consensus on Lybia?

What about congressional consent douchenozzel?

Bush had a far bigger alliance in both conflicts PLUS congressional approval!

Sorry for off topic I can no longer tolerate LIARS and FOOLS!

dhunter on March 30, 2011 at 8:05 PM

If we cant trust them to keep their campaign promise on this year’s budget, why should we beleive them on enxt years budget? Sure at first they will propose all these massive reforms. But in the end, they will give them all back, and look at us and say “but we really tried for you”.
Screw those republicans they are untrustworthy and dont deserve their positions. primary them all! Political office is not a career!

paulsur on March 30, 2011 at 8:07 PM

Too bad the Democrats did not lose the Senate. If Harry Reid was gone and Coons was not there that would help. Every vote would help. But with a Democratic majority in the Senate, the House can only do so much.

Terrye on March 30, 2011 at 7:28 PM

This annoys me more than anything else!!!!

It’s a game the GOP has been playing since time immemorial. They failed to stop Obamacare and what was their excuse? “We are powerless…” yet many conservatives were outlining strategies with which they could have killed the bill.

Currently, all spending bills originate in the House. How hard is it to tell the President and the Senate to go pound sand if they still intend to spend money that WE DO NOT HAVE and maintain UNNECESSARY government programs? What are they going to do? Call them meanies and extremists who want to kill the children and grandma? Duh! The Dems call them that already!

We have a big problem where squishy RINOs will move heaven and earth to obtain leadership positions in the House and Senate and then proceed to do SQUAT to advance conservative goals!

Giving the GOP the White House, the Senate, and the House plus a right-leaning Supreme Court will accomplish nothing until we WEED OUT these sorry specimens of leadership (big government plants) that are posing as the leaders of the GOP.

TheRightMan on March 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Hmmm. More of an arse-patting than an ass-kicking, JoBo.

Fortunata on March 30, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Boehner should resign.

WITNESS THE POWER OF THIS FULLY ARMED AND OPERATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY!!

meh.

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 7:54 PM

Yes, What a joke. The house leadership should resign, Cantor and McCarthy too.

rightwingyahooo on March 30, 2011 at 8:11 PM

That is less than half the amount O-Bomb-a added to the today alone!!! sickening.

Alden Pyle on March 30, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I would take a compromise of $33 billion in cuts if a balanced budget amendment to the constitution was ratified in advance.

Now I’m going to jump on Pegasus and fly to CandyLand.

IronDioPriest on March 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM

If we cant trust them to keep their campaign promise on this year’s budget, why should we beleive them on enxt years budget?

paulsur on March 30, 2011 at 8:07 PM

We shouldn’t. Just another reason for me to abandon the GOP – and I’m from the South. But … I’ll be voting third party just to send a message next time my Senator and Congressman come up for reelection – and they’re basically good guys.

Don’t care – this party is corrupt and impotent at it’s core. It’s time to move to the next thing.

Chuck Schumer told Boehner yesterday … “Ditch your Tea Party Base!”

And Boehner didn’t wait even 24 hours before doing so!

Schumer: “JUMP BOY!”

Boehner: “HOW HIGH SUH? MO TEA SUH?”

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 8:18 PM

When the SHTF all of us — liberals, moderates, RINOS and conservatives — all of us will receive a dung-bath the likes of which we simply can’t imagine.

And when the angry mobs who have lost their homes and can’t buy food for their families head for D.C., they will not be stopping to listen to any crap about “oh, looky, we cut a handful of loose change out of the budget!” Especially when they see the smug, self-satisfied goons of Congress living it up in taxpayer-supported luxury.

It’s going to be very, very ugly. And it will happen, sooner than many think.

The day will come when Congress must pay for years of believing itself to be the nation’s royalty. If I were one of them, I’d be taking a good look at France, circa 1789.

Sad that it seems likely to come to that end. They had plenty of chances to do right.

MrScribbler on March 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM

If this is the best we can do, then we truly are all socialist now.

PATHETIC!!!!!!!

DeathB4Tyranny on March 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM

You don’t want a balanced budget amendment. They’ll just use it as an excuse to increase income taxes.

What you really want Ben Bernanke removed from his job, and the Federal Reserve System abolished and dismantled. Only the Fed’s ability to print money is enabling this orgy of Democratic deficit spending.

If they can’t print it, they can’t spend it!

Emperor Norton on March 30, 2011 at 8:22 PM

Weight of Glory on March 30, 2011 at 7:57 PM

(staring at sceeen…

… jaw on the floor)

(begins to weep for little 7%)

Seven Percent Solution on March 30, 2011 at 8:23 PM

That’s the way they’re going to sell this to Republican voters, I guess — by accepting a deal on this year’s budget and then going nuclear on the next, replete with entitlement reform and a BBA.

If they don’t have the will to keep their promise now, don’t expect them to in the future.

FloatingRock on March 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM

then going nuclear on the next

Yup…I’m buyin’/sarc

Fools gold…but a ton of fools (rinos) out there

winston on March 30, 2011 at 8:25 PM

Do we not have any Republican senators who can out soundbite Schumer, AKA “Senator Shutdown.” Schumer is not even on the budget negotiating team, but he has been braying in front of the cameras nonstop with his negative message.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/263470/senator-shutdown-andrew-stiles

onlineanalyst on March 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

$33 billion is far too little. $61 billion is also far too little.

The only way to solve the problem is to make deep, deep cuts, which probably would prove unpopular. Everyone is for spending cuts until their own program gets touched: “Don’t cut Social Security!” “Don’t cut Medicare!” “Don’t cut the military!” “Don’t cut the mortgage tax deduction!”, etc.

Thats the core reason why politicians will not cut anything of substance. They know that the second they do, their proposal will be deeply unpopular. If we’re really concerned about the debt, even Rand Paul’s budget does not go far enough. Someone’s sacred cow will need to be gored.

Whether they cut $33 billion and live to fight another day, or $61 billion and risk a government shutdown is essentially irrelevant. Until the rank and file GOP (at least) are willing to have their government welfare packages cut, its all meaningless.

Revenant on March 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Well .. the one thing WE CAN do at this point …

Make sure our GOP Senators and Congressmen know that if they vote for this pittance of a deal then are SOL in the next election.

Let’s see if we can get the whole GOP caucus to give John Boehner and Mitch McConnell the middle finger.

Let Mitch and John stand with Scott Brown alone in this.

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Schumer is not even on the budget negotiating team, but he has been braying in front of the cameras nonstop with his negative message.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/263470/senator-shutdown-andrew-stiles

onlineanalyst on March 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Yeah – and he told Boehner to put the knife to the Tea Parties and Boehner didn’t even wait 24 hours before doing exactly that!

I ask this question – when the TP bolts the GOP in 2012 – who can blame them now?

No one.

HondaV65 on March 30, 2011 at 8:33 PM

RUSH: How About Asking The UN And Arab League To Tell Obama To Get Serious About Cutting The Budget… He Listens To Them

This entry was posted on March 30, 2011 at 4:44 pm.
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http://dailyrushbo.com/rush-how-about-asking-the-un-and-arab-league-to-tell-obama-to-get-serious-about-cutting-the-budget%e2%80%a6-he-listens-to-them/

canopfor on March 30, 2011 at 8:33 PM

I thought I voted for conservatives, but all I’ve got are these bloody Republicans. F.M.L.

ElectricPhase on March 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM

It takes more than one election to flush the scumbags into the sewers where they belong. The arrogance and incompetence displayed by the democrats and RINOs is nauseating. The 2010 elections was only a step. These morons are so out of touch with the people, they don’t have a clue what is coming. They own the MSM and actually believe their own propaganda. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder.

volsense on March 30, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Is there a commenter on this site who believes they will make good on the promise to “go nuclear” next year?

Kataklysmic on March 30, 2011 at 7:16 PM

Exactly. If I could believe that they would go to the mattresses over next year’s budget I could accept them compromising now. But I have no doubt they will fold next time, too.

Shadow on March 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Harry Reid,says if a Government Shutdown happens…..
ya thats right….it’ll be the fault of the Tea Party!?
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Government shutdown? Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says Tea Party at fault for budget stalemate
Tuesday, March 29th 2011, 1:51 PM
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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has a message for mainstream GOPers: Ditch the Tea Party or face a government shutdown.
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The Nevada Democrat insists the Tea Party is to blame for the breakdown in budget negotiations, risking a government shutdown if Republicans and Democrats do not come to an agreement by April 8.

Two short-term deals earlier this year delayed a possible government shutdown, but the two sides can’t seem to agree on a long-term fix. Democrats have reportedly offered $30 billion in cuts for the rest of the fiscal year – far more than they originally wanted to concede, but still not nearly enough to satisfy the appetite for budget-slashing among Tea Party-backed Republicans.

“I am extremely disappointed that after weeks of productive negotiations with Speaker Boehner, Tea Party Republicans are scrapping all the progress we have made and threatening to shut down the government if they do not get all of their extreme demands,” Reid said in a statement Monday.

“The division between the Tea Party and mainstream Republicans is preventing us from reaching a responsible solution on a long-term budget,” he added.

Meanwhile, Republicans are playing a blame game of their own, insisting the Democrats are merely trying to divert attention from their own problems. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said Monday that the American people would blame Democrats for any shutdown.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/03/29/2011-03-29_government_shutdown_senate_majority_leader_harry_reid_says_tea_party_at_fault_fo.html

canopfor on March 30, 2011 at 8:40 PM

Looks like the Democrats have Boehner between a rock and a hard place.

Always do regardless of how many memebrs of the Stupid Party are in Congress.

Pelosi and Reid are geniuses who knew they faced no future effective opposition to what they were ramming down the country’s throat.

The Stupid Party has yet to prove over the last 50 years that it has the ability or the desire to acutally roll back the gains of the left.

Reagan’s impact was on tax cuts and deficits, otherwise he was merely a tiny bump in the road.

rickyricardo on March 30, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Exactly. If I could believe that they would go to the mattresses over next year’s budget I could accept them compromising now. But I have no doubt they will fold next time, too.

Shadow on March 30, 2011 at 8:39 PM

Boehner already went to the matress he is face down on his knees, butt up and takin it hard from OBLahBalh Reid and Pelosi as are the rest of the incumbent RINO herd.

Dam they must like it like that.

Problem is we know what they are and keep puttin em in.

Don’t vote third party thats a sure loser say the smart folk. Well two party isn’t lookin so good or at all like a winner.

dhunter on March 30, 2011 at 8:45 PM

This is Act I of the GOP.

Act II will be nominating John McCain Part Deux for 2012.

Act III – after Obama wins landslide victory, GOP response is to answer is to out-Democrat Democrats in their willingness to spend even more money.

I personally cannot wait for a call from the RNC begging for money so I can tell the to go F**K OFF.

angryed on March 30, 2011 at 8:51 PM

Senate Republicans will finally unveil their balanced budget amendment

Who cares? This, like the Republicans stand alone bill to defund NPR is going absolutely nowhere.

Republicans better get serious fast. They have the power of the purse, they control spending, if they can’t make serious changes for the better, they are largely useless to us and we will look for representatives elsewhere.

RJL on March 30, 2011 at 8:52 PM

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