Pawlenty: Obama was born in the USA

posted at 10:55 am on March 29, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

On Morning Joe today, Mika Brzezinski asked Tim Pawlenty to assess the strength of one of his potential rivals, Donald Trump, and the former Minnesota governor tried at first to remain positive, calling Trump “talented” and “interesting.” When it came time to assess Trump’s apparent platform of birth certificates, Pawlenty was decidedly less positive:

Tim Pawlenty says Donald Trump needs to get off the birther circuit.

In an interview on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, the former Minnesota governor said there are more serious concerns to weigh.

“I, for one, do not believe we should be raising that issue,” Pawlenty said. “I think President Obama was born in the United States.”

Whatever momentary interest there was in this subject should have been abandoned long ago, preferably when Obama released the certification of his birth from Hawaii, or when the contemporaneous birth announcements were discovered by Hillary Clinton’s oppo researchers, or when the state of Hawaii twice declared the certification accurate.  The same is true for the cottage industry that has surfaced over whether Obama had a ghost writer for his memoirs. Those kind of questions might arguably have resonated when Obama was an unknown, but clearly they didn’t.  Voters chose Obama anyway in 2008, and those “strategies” are far less likely to succeed four years later.

Obama’s two-plus years in office provide plenty of reasons to oppose a second term.  Serious candidates should be focused on serious issues.  Trump is obviously not serious, but is doing a near-parody in an attempt to grab as much of the limelight as possible.


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And how does HE know?

golfmann on March 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Sjow me the piece of paper…Paw man

PatriotRider on March 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM

Donald Trump can say what he wants to say, and Tim Pawlenty doesn’t have to answer for it.

I don’t remember every Dem being asked about Bush’s TANG, Trutherism, or whether Kuchinich really had a close encounter.

Each Republican is an individual. We are not all responsible for the opinion of every Republican. No more collective responsibility!

MayBee on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

This will hurt him when Trump triumphs over the issue.

These politicians that say this are weak. They speak only to calm fears and remain in the fray. They have absolutely no proof of what they speak but it’s the “right” thing to say.

Coward!

katy on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I wish he would have gone with Ace’s approach to this whole thing: “I believe he’s a US citizen, but these questions are really not my probem. They’re the president’s problem. I don’t understand why he just won’t release the long form birth certificate and put this silly thing to rest.”

Matticus Finch on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

And how does HE know?

golfmann on March 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM

Because of the overwhelming weight of evidence pointing to the fact that he was, and the absolute dearth of evidence pointing to the the assertion that he was not.

JohnGalt23 on March 29, 2011 at 10:59 AM

Let Trump lead the birther movement. Pawlenty and the rest of the field can remain on the sidelines and appear more “mainstream”. Of course if Trump manages to dig something up, he’d automatically become the frontrunner.

Doughboy on March 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

… Pawlenty said. “I think President Obama was born in the United States.”

Or real close..er…there was a scheduling conflict.

Electrongod on March 29, 2011 at 11:00 AM

Ooooh, that settles it!

The Donald isn’t sure about this, and it’s likely he and T-Paw have exactly the same facts to back up their assertions. Which is to say: no facts, either to prove or disprove.

When do we get to see Timmy’s bracket choices?

MrScribbler on March 29, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Ed, I respectfully disagree with you. I’m not a birther but I do believe that both the issues you mention will resonate in 2012 because it will help motivate the opposition. And if Obama turns out to have lied or deceived in any way on either of those issues, then it will have a devastating effect on his re-election chances. We’ve got to throw all we have at this guy. If we pull another McCain in 2012, then it’ll be four more years of Messiah-ness.

WordsMatter on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

That’s just one of the reasons why you will never get my vote…

SHARPTOOTH on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Boring answer from a boring candidate. Not a crack at Trump, nor a jab at Obama. Just flat, weak.

Jeddite on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

“I think President Obama was born in the United States.”

Stop thinking…we can’t afford it…

PatriotRider on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Second look at Pawlenty. Trump should be discouraged from spreading this garbage. It’s going to hurt us all. All it takes is one flake with enough media attention to ruin us. Joe Farah and Orly Taitz can’t be used to paint Republicans with the brush of extremism in the eyes of the center. Trump can.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

“I think President Obama was born in the United States.”

Did anyone ask him if he thinks Obama is a natural born citizen? They use the birth certificate thing as a red herring to avoid questioning whether Obama is ineligible for the fact that he’s not a natural born citizen.

Buddahpundit on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

It’s the bloody lsm that keeps bringing this issue up.just decline to answer and focus on the nations issues

cmsinaz on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

I think?

I suppose?

I imagine?

I’m pretty positive?

OK.

Based on what???

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Why would any rational average normal citizen engage a legal team and expend funds to prevent a public document from being public?

coldwarrior on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Fine. Prove it.

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

Good.

This is why it is so good for Trump to be taking this on. He isn’t a serious candidate, but he will satisfy the Birthers, and allow the serious candidates to stay above it.

Thank you Donald Trump!

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM

Each Republican is an individual. We are not all responsible for the opinion of every Republican. No more collective responsibility!

MayBee on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

The problem is that the GOP candidates either don’t believe this or are too weak to assert this.

myrenovations on March 29, 2011 at 11:05 AM

These candidates are idiotic to subject themselves to the inane blathering of liberal opinion commentators. Who cares what Mika B has to say about the GOP primary? I can’t believe that Pawlenty thinks Morning Joe watchers are a good pool of potential votes for him in the primary.

Jaibones on March 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM

I see the msm still trying to weed out who think obama is what. I just want to see the school transcripts and his passport on where he has been.

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM

If I recall correctly, Trump didn’t say specifically that Obama wasn’t born in the USA…he said ‘there was something Obama wants to hide on the birth certificate.’

…which is what the majority of the so-called ‘birthers’ are actually saying, but which keeps getting twisted into something about Kenya.

I’m more curious about the Indonesian adventure, as that actually has the potential to disqualify him from the office.

James on March 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM

you really think t-paw is a serious candidate?

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM

So MSDNC’s liner note on the program calls Trump “The Donald”?

I’m ambivalent about the man at this point, but his name is Donald Trump; the jackwagon media is trying yet again to malign in every subtle and non-subtle way they can.

Bishop on March 29, 2011 at 11:08 AM

the absolute dearth of evidence pointing to the the assertion that he was not.

You fail at logic. You can’t prove a negative.

IrishSamurai on March 29, 2011 at 11:08 AM

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Exactly. It’s a very simple question: Why is he so secretive about his past?

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM

I think Obama was born in America too. To a dingbat unwed mother who got knocked up by an already married student from Africa. He is a literal bastard. That is what he does not want to discuss.

MikeA on March 29, 2011 at 11:10 AM

We need a George Washington..

T-Paw is no George Washington.

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:10 AM

I suppose if your’re the leftist trash responsible for programming at MSNBC, you’re going to want anything and everything on the table distracting from real issues.

Did Mika have yet another blonde moment and ask Pawlenty if he wants to kill old people? Of course, this being Pawlenty, did he then ask Cwissy Matthews if he wanted to be Pawlenty’s Veep?

MNHawk on March 29, 2011 at 11:10 AM

you really think t-paw is a serious candidate?

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:07 AM

He is as serious as Palin or Romney.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Exactly. It’s a very simple question: Why is he so secretive about his past?

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM

Daddy issues. Mom was known to put out for everything that moves.

Obama was born to an American mother. Citizen, end of story. But who’s his daddy? I don’t even think he knows for sure.

MNHawk on March 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I don’t doubt for one second that he was born in this country. Whether he actually received a college education in this country is what I really want to know.

CurtZHP on March 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I see the msm still trying to weed out who think obama is what. I just want to see the school transcripts and his passport on where he has been.

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:06 AM

THIS.

I want to see his school transcripts and his passport, and want to know who paid for his college.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Agree with T-Paw that the birth certificate is not an issue in 2012.

That said, T-Paw shows us how quickly he falls to his knees to please the media.

Angry Dumbo on March 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM

And if Obama turns out to have lied or deceived in any way on either of those issues, then it will have a devastating effect on his re-election chances.

When will we know if it has “turned out” or not?

Good Lt on March 29, 2011 at 11:15 AM

Daddy issues. Mom was known to put out for everything that moves.

Obama was born to an American mother. Citizen, end of story. But who’s his daddy? I don’t even think he knows for sure.

MNHawk on March 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM

I wonder if his birth certificate reflects that is mother didn’t know who his father was, or his father was refusing to say he was the father. Or maybe Obama was given a different birth name, and changed it after she found out who the father was.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:15 AM

He is as serious as Palin or Romney.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM

I give t-paw more credit that romney…. but not too much.

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

That’s just one of the reasons why you will never get my vote…

SHARPTOOTH on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Another internet tough guy.

rickyricardo on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

While Obama and his minions have successfully used the birther movement to mock his opponents that’s beside the fact that the President has not been honest or forthright and that weighs well up the importance list.

Speakup on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Trump is obviously not serious, but is doing a near-parody in an attempt to grab as much of the limelight as possible.

It’s working and it sure is fun watching him make libs squirm.

Alinsky on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

MNHawk on March 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM

Aside from how scummy your post is (even the worst of the Birthers don’t talk about Obama’s mother like that), you have the issue wrong. “Natural born” citizenship is either being born on US soil, or being born overseas to American parents and thus not having any allegiance to a foreign country. It is the opposite of “naturalized” citizenship.

Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, he’s a natural born citizen.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

He is as serious as Palin or Romney.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:12 AM

Yeah, Palin’s a once in a lifetime presidential candidate. (rolls eyes)

rickyricardo on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Thank you Ed for making your reasonable position so clear. I’ll repeat what I said before, I cannot figure out what dog whistle it is that brings the nutters to this blog. The contrast between the reasonableness of the articles and the outlandish kookiness of the commenters is stark. For whatever reason, however innocuous the blog entries, H/A is the radical loony right wing fever swamp.

MJBrutus on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Pawlenty just lost points.

I don’t care if Obama was born smack dab in the middle of Pennsylvania Avenue during a 4th of July parade. If he wants to bomb the crap out of Libyans, destroy entire healthcare, and energy industries, and usher in to the White house every commie radical facebook friend he has, he can damn well produce a real f*cking birth certificate.

And how about some college transcripts too.

Now I need to go find my birth certificate. Strangely, it’s a requirement to renewing my driver’s license, and mine expired a few days ago.

Thune on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, he’s a natural born citizen.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

So much certainty…so little proof

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:18 AM

This will hurt him when Trump triumphs over the issue.
These politicians that say this are weak. They speak only to calm fears and remain in the fray. They have absolutely no proof of what they speak but it’s the “right” thing to say.
Coward!
katy on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Jesus. Some of you are really too much.

Sorry, but on this issue, “the science is settled.”. As Ed accurately points out, there is evidence to establish Obama is a natural born citizen, there is no evidence demonstrably establishing otherwise. Don’t believe the evidence? Oh well: voters in 2008 did. They don’t care. Unless you somehow do what Hillary could not and produce a Kenyan birth certificate, you’re not going to change minds on this.

It isn’t a serious issue. And Trump continually harping on it is bad for us, specifically for THIS reason, as the media is forcing the serious candidates to deal with it, and generally painting conservatives as loons for believing it.

C’mon people. It’s not as if there isn’t a million and one serious, legitimate complaints of Obama that we can use to attack him on credibly. The media and Democrats (but wait, redundancy) would love for us to keep debating this one crank issue, though, because it distracts from all of those. They know that “Hey, Obama really screwed up the economy, didn’t he?” will hurt BHO in 2012. Insinuating the Birther crap isn’t going to win us an election.

Vyce on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Can T-paw show his B-Cert? I bet he can, I can, most of you can…

rgranger on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Pawlenty, the media’s RINO speaks.

How would he know?

tarpon on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

But who’s his daddy? I don’t even think he knows for sure.

MNHawk on March 29, 2011 at 11:13 AM

who cares. Seriously. No one I know is born into the family they wish they could have.

It isn’t about who was his sperm donor. It is about where he has been in the world and where he went to school for what type of degree.

Or do you want to hover over baby-daddy-issues?

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Yeah, Palin’s a once in a lifetime presidential candidate. (rolls eyes)

rickyricardo on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Uncross your eyes. Put on your diaper.

portlandon on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

and mine expired a few days ago.

Thune on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Someone will be driving you there…right?

;)

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

I wish he would have gone with Ace’s approach to this whole thing: “I believe he’s a US citizen, but these questions are really not my probem. They’re the president’s problem. I don’t understand why he just won’t release the long form birth certificate and put this silly thing to rest.”

Matticus Finch on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

This should be sent to every Republican’s inbox.

MayBee on March 29, 2011 at 11:20 AM

So much certainty…so little proof

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:18 AM

Asserting that doesn’t make it so. He provided his certification of live birth to independent fact checkers. There was a contemperaneous birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper.

You can say that’s not enough if you wish, but you’re just showcasing your own irrationality and penchant for magical thinking. If there were anything to the issue, Hillary would have buried him with it three years ago.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Oh brother, wrong answer.
Weak and ineffectual and boring (as was already stated).
Obama is, was and always shall be ineligible for POTUS,IMO. But he is POTUS. So do we change the rules or aknowledge the mistake? or ignore the problem? Personally I would love to see Jennifer Granholm or Arnold throw their hat into the ring. What the heck. If it doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter.
Who tf cares where the manger was Obama was born in? Not me. It is the Indonesian citizenship that is the problem.

ORconservative on March 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Sounds like something the McCain campaign would say. One phone call to release the cert would settle this for good.

paul1149 on March 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM

TPaw is a serious candidate, flawed on certain issues but serious; the man is no dunceball like PBHO.

Bishop on March 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Yeah, Palin’s a once in a lifetime presidential candidate. (rolls eyes)

rickyricardo on March 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM

Well technically she is. If she won the nomination, she’d be the first woman ever at the top of a major party’s ticket. The media can lampoon her all they want, but that would be historic.

Doughboy on March 29, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Buddahpundit on March 29, 2011 at 11:03 AM

 
This.
 
Are you so out of touch that you don’t know what people are concerned about, Pawlenty? If not, why are you dancing to the (D) tune? Most of us believe he was born in the US, too, and we also believe he’s an American. We have a unique opportunity to explore what “natural born” means, and it’s a requirement for the presidency. Quit getting distracted and pursue that.

rogerb on March 29, 2011 at 11:22 AM

The media, including Fox, will ask everyone but one man… the only man that knows.

faraway on March 29, 2011 at 11:22 AM

Pretty decent answer. It seems like the stock response from GOP pols has been “Well, I personally think he was born in the US, but other people are welcome to question it.” The answer really should be something like: “He was born in the US; you’re welcome to question that but then I’m welcome to call you a moron.”

But I guess that wouldn’t go over too well with over half of GOP primary voters…

crr6 on March 29, 2011 at 11:23 AM

That said, T-Paw shows us how quickly he falls to his knees to please the media.
Angry Dumbo on March 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM

How so?! By wisely pointing out that this issue is a distraction, and refusing to play the media’s game and question the President’s citizenship?

You know who else has made such a comment? Sarah Palin. I don’t see you folks claiming she’s bowed down to please the media on this issue.

Vyce on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Repubican Pukes, memorize this:

what is in the past, is in the past… Now we must judge the precedent by his record. And this past November the American People passed judgment and gave him a big red F… This precedent has demonstated time after time he is not up for the job, his leftist policies are damaging the economy, and he and his administration have lost credibility to govern with the American people…

The presidential hopeful who repeats this with conviction the most often between now and February 2012 will find themselves the prohibitive favorite headed into the primaries…

phreshone on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Vyce on March 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Obama is a serial liar. A sociopathic serial liar.

I’ll keep your post and present it to you when the sh!t hits the fan…Waiting with great anticipation to do so…

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

The media can lampoon her all they want, but that would be historic.

Doughboy on March 29, 2011 at 11:22 AM

So would be her loss, if polling data is to be believed. Which is why I can’t support Palin for the presidency despite agreeing with both her style and her policy positions.

Geraldine Ferraro made history too, but what she didn’t make is any public policy. And that’s what I want.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Why is he so secretive about his past?

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM

It benefits him to stay secretive. Keeps the Birther movement alive, allowing him to discredit the right wing.

blatantblue on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

We have a much bigger opening to hit Obarfy on with his deficits, debts, bills, and awful foreign policy.

blatantblue on March 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM

NEXT QUESTION:

Where are Obama’s college transcripts?

Roaches and vampires seem to be less afraid of the light than Obama: WHY???

landlines on March 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Mike Gallagher had a caller this morning from Texas who said the Texas legislature, as well as about 11 other states, are passing bills that require candidates to establish their legal ability for the office by releasing all papers: birth certificate, college records, VISA records, etc. If they can’t prove they are eligible, they can’t get their name on the ballot.

Even if all these states are red states, it will be hard to skip them and rely on blue states only, and will cause doubt on the candidate every where.

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

THANK YOU, PAWLENTY!

Good lordy, we have a lot of birthers here at HotAir. Sheesh!

Abby Adams on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I’m not playing into voting for you, Tim….

theaddora on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

blatantblue on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

Spending millions in an attempt to discredit a political viewpoint? Is that sharing his wealth so that he can share our wealth?

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM

Good lordy, we have a lot of birthers here at HotAir. Sheesh!

Abby Adams on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I’d love to see a Venn diagram with “HotAir birther commenters” in one circle and “HotAir ‘nista commenters” in the other. Could be very enlightening.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Even if all these states are red states, it will be hard to skip them and rely on blue states only, and will cause doubt on the candidate every where.

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

I heard michigan is also thinking about this as well. I hope the rumors are right. A blue state doing this would be awesome.

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, he’s a natural born citizen.
 
KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

 
Miguel and Maria, citizens of Mexico, sneak over the border into Texas just in time to make it to a rural hospital where Pedro is born. Pedro lives in Texas his entire life. When Pedro turns 35, is he eligible to be president of the United States?

rogerb on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Even if all these states are red states, it will be hard to skip them and rely on blue states only, and will cause doubt on the candidate every where.

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

This is all that needs to happen. Assert the 10th amendment and force documentation to be provided to be put on the ballot in X states …

If Obama doesn’t produce the documentation required, he can’t be on the ballot … end of story. No need to continue with this stupid narrative. Assert state’s rights.

IrishSamurai on March 29, 2011 at 11:29 AM

I believe he is a US citizen, but like Trump, I want know what he’s got to hide by sealing all his records and not releasing his birth certificate. And like Ace, it’s not my problem, it is the President’s. Why not simply release the thing and put the matter to rest?

Barry Davis?

JeffB. on March 29, 2011 at 11:29 AM

Prove it.

SouthernGent on March 29, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Mike Gallagher had a caller this morning from Texas who said the Texas legislature, as well as about 11 other states, are passing bills that require candidates to establish their legal ability for the office by releasing all papers: birth certificate, college records, VISA records, etc. If they can’t prove they are eligible, they can’t get their name on the ballot.

Even if all these states are red states, it will be hard to skip them and rely on blue states only, and will cause doubt on the candidate every where.

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

If our legislature passes that here in Texas, then Obama will have to release those documents. Sure, he doesn’t have a prayer of winning this state in 2012, but he has to have his name on the ballot. If he publicly concedes Texas rather than prove his eligibility with the required documentation, then he’s definitely hiding something.

Doughboy on March 29, 2011 at 11:30 AM

I wish he would have gone with Ace’s approach to this whole thing: “I believe he’s a US citizen, but these questions are really not my probem. They’re the president’s problem. I don’t understand why he just won’t release the long form birth certificate and put this silly thing to rest.”

Matticus Finch on March 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM

Exactly. People who don’t believe anything else Obama says will swear he was born of a virgin in Hawaii. Talk about naive and easily led. If I am ever on trial I want Ed as jury foreman. Those contemporaneous news announcements Morrissey are not definitive. Even if legitimate (their legitimacy is in doubt by some who have traveled to Hawaii to investigate firsthand), they prove exactly nothing with regard to whether or not he is a natural born citizen, but it takes a bit of thought and research to figure that out.

I am not going to get into all of the evidence that causes me to doubt Obama’s nativity story, but after an objective look, even Ronnie Milsap could see that Obama has some sort of birth problem (not necessarily his birth place). Many on the right are laboring under a variety of false assumptions that were long ago in doubt if not disproven. Maybe Obama was born elsewhere or maybe he’s covering for a series of lies he has told about his life and family (I believe the latter is most likely).

Regardless of what he’s hiding, he is indeed hiding something and in a constitutional republic the people have every right to know who is sleeping in the White House.

From Ace:

This is Obama’s problem. Not Boehner’s, not Huckabee’s. Not even Chris Matthews’. There is one person in the entire world who is legally permitted to release the document in question. And that’s not me, not John Boehner, and not Mike Huckabee.

Obama won’t release it. He’s decided that it’s better to have people speculate about the reasons for his refusal to release basic documents about himself than to release those documents and dispel all speculation.

That’s his choice. And if his word is that it is worse for him to release it than it is for him to not release it, I take him at his word.

And it’s not my goddamn job or anyone else’s to continuing spinning in support of his secrecy on the matter.

Ed, if you don’t believe Obama has a birth-related problem, that’s fine, but why carry Obama’s water? When your political enemy is about to shoot himself in the foot, it might be wise to stand aside silently and watch.

Stayright on March 29, 2011 at 11:31 AM

That’s just one of the reasons why you will never get my vote…

SHARPTOOTH on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

Another internet tough guy.

rickyricardo on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Just my opinion, has nothing to do with being a “internet tuff guy”. If T- paw is your guy then more power to ya…and good luck with that.

SHARPTOOTH on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

And how does HE know?

golfmann on March 29, 2011 at 10:56 AM

He doesn’t. This is over-compensating faux statesmanship so typical of a weenie RINO. This is what they all consider “courage.” Go to hell. I wouldn’t vote for this guy anyway just based on his vapid, character-less mug.

rrpjr on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

blatantblue on March 29, 2011 at 11:25 AM

Agreed.

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

Ed, The birther thing is more complicated than you’re making it out. It isn’t about whether he’s eligible or ineligible for the office. The entire problem for Obama, and the reason it won’t seem to go away, and the reason reasonable people who don’t really have much doubt at all that he was eligible for the office all want to see the certificate is because it hints at some dark secret. This is a president who promised and continued to promise transparency and openness and this is a bizarre example of an easy spot for him to be open and he refuses. Why?

It sort of reminds me of that movie with Raul Julia and Harrison Ford, Presumed Innocent. All through the movie Raul Julia’s defense lawyer character keeps pounding the idea of these papers having some answers and the judge refuses. Raul had no idea what was in them, but instinctively knew that the judge didn’t want them to see the light of day.

Anyways, you can suggest that most people don’t feel that way and that it’s politically bad idea. I respect that I suppose, but my gut is suggesting that there’s something there. I’m not alone in that. I sincerely doubt it has anything to do with a problem of citizenship. There are a lot of other things that could be on the long form that would be problematic.

In the end, I think that’s more what Trump is saying, and I think he’s right. It’s weird – so what the heck is up with it?

WashingtonsWake on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

When Pedro turns 35, is he eligible to be president of the United States?

rogerb on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Absolutely. It’s the blessing and the curse of a land where all are born free and everyone’s rights are protected. The Constitution is clear as crystal on this issue. If you are born in this country, you are a citizen. No exceptions.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

I’ll keep your post and present it to you when the sh!t hits the fan…Waiting with great anticipation to do so…
katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

You’ll still be waiting when the stars cool and the universe goes dark.

Vyce on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

If he publicly concedes Texas rather than prove his eligibility with the required documentation, then he’s definitely hiding something.

Doughboy on March 29, 2011 at 11:30 AM

Exactly. And it’s much bigger than a daddy issue…

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:33 AM

“I don’t know the facts. But the Donald acted stupidly.”

Seriously we need to raise the bar for determining what is true. Simply deeming it to be so is intellectually weak.

If you want to avoid the citizenship issue as a strategy, fine, just say that.

Kenosha Kid on March 29, 2011 at 11:33 AM

but you’re just showcasing your own irrationality and penchant for magical thinking.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:21 AM

Wow…talk about magical thinking…you’ll take the word of a serial liar and I’m showcasing my irrationality and penchant for magical thinking?

Seriously KG, your projectionism is showing.

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:33 AM

I heard michigan is also thinking about this as well. I hope the rumors are right. A blue state doing this would be awesome.

upinak on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

Yes it would! :D

ladyingray on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Good lordy, we have a lot of birthers here at HotAir. Sheesh!

Abby Adams on March 29, 2011 at 11:26 AM

And a lot won’t admit to it…but are “just asking questions”…sounds familiar…

It’s such a non-issue.

JetBoy on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

It does not hurt our side as ably demonstrated here by Ace:

It’s just that anyone who hears all this is going to ask, as my Hypothetical Independent kept asking, “Okay, I accept this is all crazy… but… why won’t he release it?”

There’s no answer to that. No one ever says why this is so outrageous a request. No one offers any plausible justification for withholding it.

No one ever asks the President. No one. Ever.

We have a secret, and we don’t even have the courtesy of a cover story to explain the secret away.

If you act secretively, it is not crazy to imagine you have secrets.

This is Obama’s problem. It is Obama’s choice to withhold this document. That’s a decision he made — why? No idea. The White House won’t even offer a cover story to explain why such a benign record must be guarded like Area 51.

It is not the problem of Obama’s opponents to prop him up and explain away his decision. It is not our duty to make excuses for him, or to postulate reasons why he’s withholding a trivial birth record.

It’s the guy with the secret who has the problem.

(…)

I, personally, am sick to death of hearing media sycophants demand that John Boehner affirm that Obama was born in Hawaii while not asking that Obama do the same.

mudskipper on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

I disagree with Ed re; Trump.

I have no hard opinion in the matter of Obama’s birth or birth certificate, because the facts are being withheld.

I don’t think Trump is “unserious”. I think he is going “all-in”. He’s placing his bid for the Presidency in the pot, and daring Obama to call him with the LFBC.

I think he intends to put the issue to rest once and for all, and use his high profile to force Obama’s hand to either produce the certificate, or be increasingly seen as illegitimate. His media appearances discussing this are not overly-kooky, and he comes across as articulating a legitimate concern with an ultimately simple solution: produce the long-form birth certificate.

Obama espoused audacity that he does not possess. Trump is demonstrating what it looks like.

IronDioPriest on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

If Obama doesn’t produce the documentation required, he can’t be on the ballot … end of story. No need to continue with this stupid narrative. Assert state’s rights.

IrishSamurai on March 29, 2011 at 11:29 AM

The important thing here is that this applies to everyone who wants to be president. It may be inspired by Osama Obama’s possible ineligibility, but it is not aimed solely at him.

BTW — I recently got a driver’s license in a new state. Had to provide an official paper copy of my long-form birth certificate with that state’s seal on it. Nothing less would do. Is the Mohammedan Mouthpiece above the law? I think not.

MrScribbler on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

That’s just one of the reasons why you will never get my vote…

SHARPTOOTH on March 29, 2011 at 11:02 AM

The fact that T-Paw ISN’T a birther just reaffirms my support for this sane, level-headed, principled conservative.
It will be a cold day in…you-know-where before a birther gets MY vote.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Vyce on March 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM

poetic…really nice….

but you’re still an idiot.

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Obama was born in Hawaii. Therefore, he’s a natural born citizen.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM

Miguel and Maria, citizens of Mexico, sneak over the border into Texas just in time to make it to a rural hospital where Pedro is born. Pedro lives in Texas his entire life. When Pedro turns 35, is he eligible to be president of the United States?

rogerb on March 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM

According to Kinggold’s line of thinking, Ahmadinejad’s child, Bin Laden’s child, or Castro’s child, could become president. Rubbish!

Stayright on March 29, 2011 at 11:35 AM

Just another candidate playing not to loose.

Is anyone else sick of the ‘just enough’ philosophy?

lm10001 on March 29, 2011 at 11:36 AM

And a lot won’t admit to it…but are “just asking questions”…sounds familiar…

It’s such a non-issue.

JetBoy on March 29, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Hi Jet!
Yeah-it sounds very ‘familiar’.
*looks skyward’*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 29, 2011 at 11:36 AM

katy on March 29, 2011 at 11:33 AM

Sigh.

Fine. If you believe that Obama is lying about this, you also believe that FactCheck is lying, that the Hawaii Department of Health is lying, that the editors of the Honolulu newspaper forty-five years ago were lying, and that the doctors and medical staff at the hospital are lying.

Awful lot of hush money goin’ around these days.

KingGold on March 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM

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