Open thread: Hey, who’s ready for some clarity on the war in Libya?

posted at 7:14 pm on March 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

7:30 p.m. ET, at the National Defense University in Washington, Professor O finally steps to the lectern. I’m kidding in the headline, of course; the point of this chat isn’t really to clarify what we’re doing in Libya but to check the “president addressing nation about new war” box and reassure war-weary voters that our “time-limited, scope-limited military action” really will be time-limited and scope-limited. A sneak preview from NBC:

One, he’ll announce that the one-week campaign (to establish a no-fly zone and to immobilize the Khaddafy’s army) has worked. Indeed, due to the Western airstrikes, rebel forces have the momentum and are now at the doorstep of Khaddafy’s home town. Two, the president will stress that the U.S. has handed over command and control to NATO. A senior administration official confirmed to NBC’s Courtney Kube yesterday that NATO has agreed to take over the mission to protect Libya’s civilian population. And three, he’ll discuss the lives that the campaign has saved. One other thing to note: The reason why the president is making his speech from the National Defense University and not from the Oval Office is that it’s more of a “policy” speech (which presidents typically deliver from different venues) than an “action” one (which they typically give from the Oval Office).

The rebels may have been at the “doorstep of Qaddafi’s home town” earlier, but within the past few hours they’ve fallen back after coming under heavy fire from regime loyalists in a nearby town. No matter, though. This isn’t a speech about the importance of victory and why we should bear any burden to achieve it. It’s a speech about how we’ve already kinda sorta achieved “victory” by preventing a massacre and that there’s really no burden to be borne at all. Whatever happens on the ground from here on out is gravy, so long as Qaddafi stays out of Benghazi.

What would this speech sound like if it was, honestly, about clarifying the mission? Well, for starters, The One would cop to the fact that, yes, we really are trying to achieve regime change. He can’t say that because it’s beyond the scope of the UN resolution, but realistically the only way now to guarantee the safety of Libyan civilians in the country’s rebellious eastern provinces is to get rid of Qaddafi. If he survives, he’ll take revenge on everyone. Ergo, he can’t survive. The next admission Obama would make is that … we don’t have a concrete plan for achieving regime change. The Brits have dropped a few bombs on Qaddafi’s compound in Tripoli, and we’re beaming in propaganda asking/begging Qaddafi’s soldiers to switch sides in order to hasten his overthrow, but beyond that there’s not much we can do directly. Indirectly, of course, we can continue to do what we’re doing now — bombing Qaddafi’s positions outside Sirte and, eventually, Tripoli in a transparent attempt to soften up his forces for a rebel advance on the ground. That too, however, is beyond the scope of the UN’s resolution — we’re supposed to be protecting civilians, not acting as the rebel air force — so O has to pretend that we’re still waging purely defensive war instead of an obviously offensive one.

Finally, he could offer real clarity on the purpose of this adventure. Yes, there’s a humanitarian component to it, but this piece by Jason Zengerle fills in the rest of the blanks:

With Libya, humanitarian hawks have found an almost too-good-to-be-true vehicle for this vision. In Qaddafi, the U.S. has an operatically villainous adversary who not only has the blood of Americans on his hands but also the blood of his own citizens, having pledged to Libyans who dare oppose him that his military “will find you in your closets.” From a purely ­Realpolitik perspective, Qaddafi also gives the U.S. a Muslim foe who—unlike even Saddam Hussein—is not particularly beloved by the Arab street, much less Arab leaders. Which explains why, unlike the war in Iraq, this military intervention is truly multilateral.

Then there’s the reality of this particular moment. There is no chance of the U.S. intervening militarily on behalf of the revolts in places like Bahrain or Yemen or Syria, where the U.S. either counts on the cooperation of its repressive leaders or fears the relative might of its armies. But Libya, with its isolated, intransigent dictator and ragtag military, presents no such difficulties. As such, it offers an ideal vehicle to signal to “those kids” (as an Obama aide, speaking to Politico, referred to Arab pro-democracy demonstrators) that the United States is on the right side of history.

He’s trying to buy goodwill to undo decades of U.S. support for the Mubaraks and Ben Alis of the world. If Libya were happening in a vacuum, without half a dozen other Arab countries teetering on the edge of revolution and power struggles involving anti-American lunatics, he might — might — have thought differently about intervening. As it is, he’s making an example of Qaddafi to show solidarity with young Arab populists and to send a thinly veiled message to newly ascendant demagogues in the region that he’s more willing to project military power than some might think. Still, though, never forget: Obama is, first and foremost, the Perpetual Campaigner, a guy willing to abdicate on issues of utmost national importance if doing so will increase his chances of reelection next year. That’s why I think this Libya mission is a one-off and why I’m not as worried as Mickey Kaus and Ross Douthat about the “routinization of humanitarian war.” It’s hard to imagine the Perpetual Campaigner, who ran as a progressive with impeccable anti-war (i.e. anti-Iraq) cred, testing the public’s war fatigue by intervening again and again overseas. (Support for this mission, while net positive, is still the lowest for any military intervention over the past 30 years.) He did it this time because he thought it’d be easy, because it would theoretically blunt Arab criticism about U.S. support for autocrats, because he had plenty of political cover from Europe, and because, let’s face it, Americans will be thrilled to see Qaddafi hanging from a lamppost. Is there any country for which all those things are true?

As we wait, go read Ed Driscoll’s post about Obama’s recent ode to internationalism. What does this mean, exactly: “[I]t is our military that is being volunteered by others to carry out missions that are important not only to us, but are important internationally.”


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Ted Baxter is a jackass.

When I heard Rush refer to BO’R as Ted Baxter I completely damn near spit my sip of coffee up!

predator on March 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM

I LMAO on that one, too. Ted Baxter is just plain scared of the Media Matters folks. I simply cannot respect a man who finds David Brock intimidating.

Rational Thought on March 28, 2011 at 9:12 PM

Does have the ring of truth about it, doesn’t it?
Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 9:05 PM

Indeed it does. When I told the libtard I work with about it even he laughed.

predator on March 28, 2011 at 9:12 PM

was listening to cnn while cooking…

all hail dear leader….he was the most awesomest…

bleh

cmsinaz on March 28, 2011 at 9:13 PM

He’s so pedantic, and professorial, and ivory tower, and law book precise. It’s maddening. What he’s saying has no relation to reality. It’s just words. Words.

Paul-Cincy on March 28, 2011 at 7:46 PM

The reason he’s maddening is he’s so pseudo-pedantic, and pseudo-professorial, and pseudo-ivory tower, and pseudo-law book precise.

He just a brazen poseur, and an empty suit at that. Plus he’s arrogant and speaks to us all as fools.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Sudan? Iran? Syria? North Korea? They don’t count but Libya does?

Django on March 28, 2011 at 8:21 PM

As Rush said today….it’s about the oil. It’s ALL about the oil for Europe.

capejasmine on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

Tonight, Baxter launched another attack on Palin, right in the middle of a discussion with Bernie Goldberg about Obama’s people coming on with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday.

She really ticked him off when she told him to quit interrupting her. She answered his question and he was talking over her and didn’t even understand her answer. He’s an absolute jackass who needs a comeuppance.

NoNails on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

I simply cannot respect a man who finds David Brock intimidating.

Rational Thought on March 28, 2011 at 9:12 PM

And time after time he will say how he thinks that Presiden Ovacation is a “very smart man.” And I’m sitting there thinking, “Based on what?”

predator on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

The reason he’s maddening is he’s so pseudo-pedantic, and pseudo-professorial, and pseudo-ivory tower, and pseudo-law book precise.

He just a brazen poseur, and an empty suit at that. Plus he’s arrogant and speaks to us all as fools.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:13 PM

Amen. You want professorial? Read Thomas Sowell. Then compare and contrast with Barry.

Rational Thought on March 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM

As Rush said today….it’s about the oil. It’s ALL about the oil for Europe.

capejasmine on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

capejasmine:Here ya go——————-:)
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UPDATE: RUSH DittoCam: Libya Is All About European Energy
This entry was posted on March 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm.

http://dailyrushbo.com/update-rush-dittocam-libya-is-all-about-european-energy/

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STRATFOR Chart: Major Foreign Energy Presence in Libya
Click Image To Enlarge

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM

Somewhere, in a Chicago thrift shop, an empty suit is missing its naked emperor.

ajacksonian on March 28, 2011 at 9:24 PM

Is Ted Baxter showing early signs of Alka Seltzer ?

Sandybourne on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

A focus on the UN is bad for Israel

clnurnberg on March 28, 2011 at 9:07 PM

Our focus on Israel is bad for us.

True_King on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I miss President Van Buren!!!

PappyD61 on March 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM

If Obama, through the UN can deploy our Military under any UN Mandate, and if this sh** is allowed to stick then we have a serious problem. This was his original mission.

The UN cannot be allowed to deploy, control, direct, define, mandate anything regarding any branch of the United States Military.

Obama just tried; it appears that he might suceed through the Libya mission. It is why he intentionally neglected the US Congress.

The results of his success will be disastrous.

Key West Reader on March 28, 2011 at 8:17 PM

Reader, read the three books by Matthew Bracken…Yellow, Red, and Blue books we call them. the Blue (third) book was delayed several months for a rewrite to include EXACTLY the above.

“Foreign Enemies and Traitors” I believe the third book is…but everyone here should read all three and tell me if he is Wrong? anywhere. Anywhere?

Gird thy loins and stockpile, “Interesting Times” are a-coming…

Who is John Galt on March 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM

We went through the Generation Gap and the Credibility Gap. What I get from Obama is the Sincerity Gap. On a very simple level which doesn’t have much to do with Libya, when he babbles on about freedom and liberty I don’t believe him.

This is a man manchild who associates with authoritarian people/groups like the SEIU, Bill Ayers, Media Matters – none of whom believe in “liberty”. Media Matters (with a lot of help from the Center for American Progress and Van Jones) wants to shut down an entire news network for chrissakes! And we’re supposed to believe he believes in liberty?

Buy Danish on March 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM

As Rush said today….it’s about the oil. It’s ALL about the oil for Europe.

capejasmine on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

You know, I could respect Øbama‘s decision if I thought that were the basis of it. Rare are the times I disagree with El Rushbo. :) This is one.

My bet is the basis of it is Øbama felt he needed to transform his image as a foreign policy wuss into a foreign policy leader, prior to 2012. It was his version of Clinton’s bombing the aspirin factory. It was a campaign ploy.

His defensiveness in tonight’s speech was telling.

Tail wags dog wuss one more time. Wuff.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Our focus on Israel is bad for us.

True_King on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Yes, let’s all embrace the Caliphate.WTF??

Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Monday, March 28, 2011
Libya’s Rebels?
John Lee Anderson reports from Benghazi, “Who Are the Rebels?
**************

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/libyas-rebels.html

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:36 PM

Our focus on Israel is bad for us.

True_King on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM
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Yes, let’s all embrace the Caliphate.WTF??

Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM

Naturally Curly:Here ya go!!
—————————–

Monday, March 28, 2011
Caliphate Accompli?
********************

The devil we know is the devil, you say!

Devilish tho’ts about a sunnilicious Aegypt Autocrazy are nigh undeniable as Future Pyramidland looks like a lookalike to the old Pyramidland. The chilling V Checks Egypt’s allegedly awesome army resorted to with detained girl protesters seems to reflect a somewhat crazy place where gender apartheid is not only sanctioned, condoned and enjoyed – it’s a quasi state policy.

And it may become Official State Policy if Ikwan totally seduces the state’s guarantors – the military – into doing ye olde switcheroo – effectively subbing a secular despotry with a religious despotry.

Despite the twisted raison d’etre about rushing into the new constitutional amendments or Ikwan’s LOL about creating a theocrazy lite it’s looking like the birth pangs of a sunni caliphate.

Such a putsch d’tat would be a significant coup – especially if it’s done really really fast – before the same ppl who appeared en masse in Tahiri Square realize they’ve been had. Unless they want to be had – recent polls seem to indicate most Pyramidlanders kinda sorta want a Persian Version of a preacher command.

The urge to purge would be tough to resist – getting rid of non m’Hammedist designs like women’s rights, tolerance for intelligentsia or dissent in the world capitol of horrific horrors decorum prohibs mentioning – would be kinda easy in a place where the lit rate is an underwhelming 83% for guys and 59% for girls.

The fact that Persia or HAMAS may have queered the mix on holy regimes may not be so true. The allure of a mythical m’Hammedist preacher’s paradise is still powerful meds to the wretched realities of cats suffering under secular autocrazies – though in the Strip and Iran – the preacher’s paradise IS the wretched reality.
(More….)

http://greatsatansgirlfriend.blogspot.com/2011/03/caliphate-accompli.html

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:38 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM

It’s clear, IMO, that’s why Europe went there. But why would BHO support them. If I’m correct, he’s more anti-Western than pro-Euro, and would lean more toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

The “victory” is to set a precedent so that NATO and/or UN troops can be used after the UNGA recognizes a Palestinian state on the 1949 armistice lines.

ProfessorMiao on March 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM

It’s clear, IMO, that’s why Europe went there. But why would BHO support them. If I’m correct, he’s more anti-Western than pro-Euro, and would lean more toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Wonder how long it will take before the masses get that? If so, doubt they will care much.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM

Canopfor,

There is no doubt in my mind that the Caliphate is what it’s all about. I trust the jug=eared jesus not at all. Thanks for the link.

Keep praying, people!

Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 9:45 PM

As Rush said today….it’s about the oil. It’s ALL about the oil for Europe.

capejasmine on March 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM
You know, I could respect Øbama‘s decision if I thought that were the basis of it. Rare are the times I disagree with El Rushbo. :) This is one.

My bet is the basis of it is Øbama felt he needed to transform his image as a foreign policy wuss into a foreign policy leader, prior to 2012. It was his version of Clinton’s bombing the aspirin factory. It was a campaign ploy.

His defensiveness in tonight’s speech was telling.

Tail wags dog wuss one more time. Wuff.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:34 PM

You are probably both correct. And there may be yet a third
or fourth reason that we don’t yet know about.

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 9:46 PM

so BOR is Obama’s new toy….I see.

unseen on March 28, 2011 at 9:47 PM

Hey, are the trolls out to dinner or a meeting trying to
regroup?

I bet if there is a Palin post re her appearance on Greta
tonight they will make a beeline back to Hot Air!

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 9:48 PM

True_King on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I’ll take Israel over the UN any day.

Cindy Munford on March 28, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Well let me ask you this. If your core belief was that all of the present ME is the way it is because of Israel and the cold war (i.e USA) and because the USA needed to protect Israel during that cold war by installing and supporting dictators across the region. what would you be doing now to remedy that? would you not seek to change those dictators that were placed there after ww2 and reutrn to the pre war boundries with the ultimate goal of destroying Israel to ensure the ME is had peace. because that is what the left things and that is what is happening.

unseen on March 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Uh, I know this is a chicken$#!t question, but won’t the rebels exact revenge on Kaddafi’s supporters if they win? Will we then bomb them to prevent a humanitarian disaster? Oh that’s right, they’re Al Qaida. They don’t kill innocent people. The rebs are the Libyan Founding Fathers. Paragons of wisdom and virtue are they. Muhammad Washington and Khalid Jefferson and don’t forget Mustafah Franklin. Libya will be America in Africa once the rebels win.

JimP on March 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

I bet if there is a Palin post re her appearance on Greta
tonight they will make a beeline back to Hot Air!

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 9:48 PM

no doubt.

unseen on March 28, 2011 at 9:54 PM

mayber Obama doesn’t care who the rebels are because he has no plans of leaving..

unseen on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Caption this photo.

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

True_King on March 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

I’ll take Israel over the UN any day.

Cindy Munford on March 28, 2011 at 9:50 PM

I’ll take Israel over any Islamic nation any day!!!

SHARPTOOTH on March 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 9:46 PM

Well let me ask you this. If your core belief was that all of the present ME is the way it is because of Israel and the cold war (i.e USA) and because the USA needed to protect Israel during that cold war by installing and supporting dictators across the region. what would you be doing now to remedy that? would you not seek to change those dictators that were placed there after ww2 and reutrn to the pre war boundries with the ultimate goal of destroying Israel to ensure the ME is had peace. because that is what the left things and that is what is happening.

unseen on March 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Did you respond to me in error?

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Uh, I know this is a chicken$#!t question, but won’t the rebels exact revenge on Kaddafi’s supporters if they win? Will we then bomb them to prevent a humanitarian disaster? Oh that’s right, they’re Al Qaida. They don’t kill innocent people. The rebs are the Libyan Founding Fathers. Paragons of wisdom and virtue are they. Muhammad Washington and Khalid Jefferson and don’t forget Mustafah Franklin. Libya will be America in Africa once the rebels win.

JimP on March 28, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Khalid Jefferson, God we wish.

Hilarious post, +100!

Who is John Galt on March 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM
===========================
It’s clear, IMO, that’s why Europe went there. But why would BHO support them. If I’m correct, he’s more anti-Western than pro-Euro, and would lean more toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

petefrt:Yup,Obama for some reason,wants to even the playing
fields in the Middle East,against Isreal,and his
words and actions have cemented it,in Obama’s politi
cal career!

And yes,your statement,mirrors my thinking!:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Nice outfit, Moo’mar…but Michelle would like her drapes back.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Now all of a sudden Iraq is Øbama‘s justification for Libya?

WTF?

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM

CUDA !!
She was disappointed, to say the least.

pambi on March 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM

Go Sarah !

Sandybourne on March 28, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Nearly Nobody on March 28, 2011 at 10:09 PM

Can’t ya just feel the love?

Compare this to what Shabazz et al., were saying on 5 November 2008.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Yep, can’t help but believe that stacking the ME deck against Israel is in the back (or front) of his mind.

His motives are many, and none of them, at least none I can discern, are favorable for USA.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Canopfor,

There is no doubt in my mind that the Caliphate is what it’s all about. I trust the jug=eared jesus not at all. Thanks for the link.

Keep praying, people!

Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Naturally Curly:I`ve called it from Day 1,little bit spooky
when,the entire M.E.and upper Africa is
protesting!!:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Caption this phono
Emperor Norton on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Moochelle, you need a shave, a sh!t and a shower!

Naturally Curly on March 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM

It’s clear, IMO, that’s why Europe went there. But why would BHO support them. If I’m correct, he’s more anti-Western than pro-Euro, and would lean more toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Obama is leaning toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy by supporting the rebels, which will help the radical jihadists, just like in Egypt. Is anyone talking about what the world is going to be like with the Muslim Brotherhood controlling the Suez Canal?

GaltBlvnAtty on March 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM

“Who’s ready for some clarity”? – Not Chairman Obamao, unless the goal was to stick to a clear pattern of telling one lie and half-truth after another in a single speech.

Check out this fact check on various claims he made throughout the speech. Sorry, Mr. Chairman, your smoke-and-mirrors act does not fool us.

OneVision on March 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:03 PM
======================
Yep, can’t help but believe that stacking the ME deck against Israel is in the back (or front) of his mind.

His motives are many, and none of them, at least none I can discern, are favorable for USA.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM

petefrt:Ahem,A-Stink`nMen:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:16 PM

The Stache on Greta … Explaining NATO command means.
Says the O doesn’t understand it .. Hehe

pambi on March 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM

BOR is possibly part of the sabotage that Media Matters has started.

mobydutch on March 28, 2011 at 10:19 PM

Palin was first up on Greta; basically states that our
goal should be the elimination of Quadaffi – John Bolton
was up next; he said the same thing as Palin.

Amjean on March 28, 2011 at 10:22 PM

From the English Brotherhood Webpage!
==========================================

Rumsfield fears MB will control revolution
**********************************************

An article in Washington Times cited Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfield as being concerned that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt will take over the revolution.

Monday, March 28,2011 00:17
IkhwanWeb

An article in Washington Times cited Former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfield as being concerned that the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt will take over the revolution.

He alleged that if elections were to be held the Islamist group would have a head start over disorganized secular parties adding that he believed no other political organizational entity exists in Egypt strong enough to manage the process against the Muslim Brotherhood. He added the MB is an organization that is serious.

Defense Secretary, Robert M. Gates who replaced Mr Rumsfield in December 2006, met in Cairo last week with the leaders of Egypt’s ruling military council and called on them to slow down the election timetable in order to allow new parties to develop.
(more….)

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=28300

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:25 PM

BOR is possibly part of the sabotage that Media Matters has started.

mobydutch on March 28, 2011 at 10:19 PM

mobydutch:Good one,lol:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Obama went to war because Michelle told him to do it. Why did she tell him to do it? Don’t ask me, as I have no idea how these new henhawks think. Maybe she’s trying to flex her amazing arm muscles.

pearson on March 28, 2011 at 10:25 PM

Caption this photo.

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

‘Sup, bro!

predator on March 28, 2011 at 10:26 PM

pearson on March 28, 2011 at 10:25 PM

She wanted Moo’mar’s wardrobe.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Emperor Norton on March 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM

ROTFL. Wonderful. I’m too amused to think of a caption, but thanks for the link.

JimP on March 28, 2011 at 10:29 PM

She wanted Moo’mar’s wardrobe.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:28 PM

LOL times ten! It would be an improvement on her current line of fashion.

predator on March 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM

She wanted Moo’mar’s wardrobe.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:28 PM

NOW everything is starting to make sense.

pearson on March 28, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Rand Paul eviscerates Obama’s Libya speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrrV_Txg47Q

Paraphrasing:

“We’re taking sides in a conflict we know nothing about … Why do we have American soldiers, our best and bravest, helping people in Libya who may be fighting against them in Afghanistan and Iraq?”

“We’re waging war across the ME on a credit card”

“President Obama asked, What would have happened if we did nothing? A better question might have been, will our action end up harming U.S. national interests?”

Firefly_76 on March 28, 2011 at 10:33 PM

So Michelle is after this outfit?

http://pohdiaries.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/obama_gaddafi.jpg

pearson on March 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM

She wanted Moo’mar’s wardrobe.

coldwarrior on March 28, 2011 at 10:28 PM

I’m amazed at how deep her singing voice is.

http://tinyurl.com/65zv8pv

predator on March 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM

It’s a squirmish…..

idesign on March 28, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Firefly_76 on March 28, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Wow – that was the first time I’ve heard Rand Paul speak. I am very impressed. He connected on all punches and has exposed the folly and danger of this entire Libya campaign.

The GOP has FINALLY brought its A-game to deliver a compelling response. Thank God – may this mark the beginning of a new trend!

OneVision on March 28, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Naturally Curly:I`ve called it from Day 1,little bit spooky
when,the entire M.E.and upper Africa is
protesting!!:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM

Which is why we must win in the Afghan/Pakistan theater.
The Islamic threat is growing at a rapid pace and they will not stop until they have destroyed anything and anyone that does not bow to the Koran.
It is well past time for the West to see the larger threat that radical Islam poses to all free countries and the need to widen our offensive against it.
When you succeed in taking territory in war…you don’t relinquish it.We are basically doing that in Iraq and would be doing that by surrendering in Afghanistan. The Islamist will not stop and it will only delay the inevitable confrontation between the west and radical Islam that the terrorist are hoping for.

Come the caliphate

Saturday, January 21, 2006
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=31&art_id=10371&sid=6290600&con_type=3

…..Kahlili’s inside experience goes a long way in explaining just how serious the Islamic threat is.

Our Man Inside Iran’s Revolutionary Guards
http://www.michaeltotten.com/2010/04/our-man-inside-irans-revolutionary-guards.php

If you look more deeply into the thought processes of the people controlling the government, these are people who strongly believe Islam will conquer the world. Every act they commit is in that direction. They don’t just want a nuclear bomb to make them untouchable. They think it will be the trigger for Islam conquering the world.


Twelver Shias believe the Twelfth Imam, or Mahdi, will return to bring peace and justice to the world during a time of massive upheaval and chaos. Khomeini and his disciples deviate from traditional Shia doctrine and say the deliberate creation of upheaval and chaos may hasten the Mahdi’s return.

….Obama’s narcissistic obsession to do whatever it takes to make himself into some supreme piped piper leading all of us to some illusionary liberal utopia has done nothing but make our enemies stronger and America weaker.
To the Ahmadenijad’s and other terrorist leaders….Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

Baxter Greene on March 28, 2011 at 10:51 PM

The Fog of a Bore: ObaMao Speech #Jillion

onlineanalyst on March 28, 2011 at 11:10 PM

Naturally Curly:I`ve called it from Day 1,little bit spooky
when,the entire M.E.and upper Africa is
protesting!!:)

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 10:14 PM
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Which is why we must win in the Afghan/Pakistan theater.
The Islamic threat is growing at a rapid pace and they will not stop until they have destroyed anything and anyone that does not bow to the Koran.

To the Ahmadenijad’s and other terrorist leaders….Obama is the gift that keeps on giving.

Baxter Greene on March 28, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Baxter Greene:Thank-you for the linkys,more reading for
later tonight!

Btw,did you catch the link,from Drudge!:)
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Iranian Video Says Mahdi is ‘Near’

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/March/Iranian-Regime-Video-Says-Mahdi-is-Near-/

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Spectres and Warthogs Join Libyan Fight
March 28 2011
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The Pentagon briefed today that two new airplanes joined the Odyssey Dawn mix last weekend: the A-10 and the AC-130

Read more: http://defensetech.org/#ixzz1HxF3iaaV
Defense.org

canopfor on March 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Btw,did you catch the link,from Drudge!:)
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Iranian Video Says Mahdi is ‘Near’

…Sure did.

People like Totten,Roggio,Jihad watch,and Jawa Report have been reporting on this for years.This has been a violent and deliberate march to the Modern Caliphate by the Ahmadinjad’s and Osama’s of the world.While liberals dismiss this a “right wing propaganda”….the Jihadist are taking over muslim countries at a rabid pace.
The passivity and appeasement has done nothing but guarantee a wider and bloody war in the future with Israel probably being the spark…..

Check this link out if you haven’t already…they do a great job of reporting on radical Islam….

http://www.memri.org/content/en/main.htm

Calls on Facebook for Palestinian Millions to Return to Their Homes in Israel on May 15, 2011

“The time has come to realize our historical dream to return to Palestine. The nation is undergoing an unprecedented noble [awakening] that enables such an historic leap. The Zionist entity is in a state of weakness, collapse, and loss of vision, which entices us to aim focused blows at it, in order to topple its racist enterprise, which contradicts the values of religion and morality.”[4]

Baxter Greene on March 29, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Meanwhile, the President had to take the obligatory shot at Bush and tried to rewrite history on the Iraq war.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/president-obama-takes-swipe-at-bush-rewrites-history-speech-on-libya

jdawg on March 29, 2011 at 12:30 AM

Barack-o-translator on:

We’re helping poor, downtrodden Al Qaeda members in Libya to defeat a fellow Muslim mob boss for control of billions in oil revenues!

Huzzah!

profitsbeard on March 29, 2011 at 12:36 AM

jdawg on March 29, 2011 at 12:30 AM

good linky….absolutely shameful and the lsm were focused on that little jab, never challenging the claim….

gets my blood boiling with all this stuff the lsm lets this maroon get by with…

cmsinaz on March 29, 2011 at 12:44 AM

Bolton: Obama’s Speech “A Dog’s Breakfast”

Fido!

maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 6:11 AM

“Because I said so!” he explained.

kingsjester on March 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM

It’s clear, IMO, that’s why Europe went there. But why would BHO support them. If I’m correct, he’s more anti-Western than pro-Euro, and would lean more toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy.

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

Obama is leaning toward supporting the Muslim ascendancy by supporting the rebels, which will help the radical jihadists, just like in Egypt. Is anyone talking about what the world is going to be like with the Muslim Brotherhood controlling the Suez Canal?

GaltBlvnAtty on March 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM

China is spending billions on arming themselves. Perhaps
they will take care of the Muslim Brotherhood in
the Middle East.

Amjean on March 29, 2011 at 6:59 AM

Obama’s chronology wrong. His resolution is a self licking ice cream cone.

Bolton says it like he sees it.

The problem to note, however, is the essence of the neoconservative convoluted argument.

No one “proves” why the US or NATO or even the UN have any legal “right” to assassinate Qadhafi. Obama’s arguments against Qadhafi provide Congress with every evidence upon which to impeach AND CONVICT Obama.

Since Bolton acknowledges that Qadhafi’s opposition remains at best “unknown” and may be prepared to work the same inhumane tortures upon Qadhafi supporters as Qadhafi would perform upon his opponents– Bolton isn’t up front with the public awareness of reality. When stating that the US/NATO objective “should be” to remove Qadhafi by using al-Qaida to strengthen al-Qaida, the very danger that Bolton illustrates as what the US/NATO should prevent — to prevent Libya’s coast from becoming another like Somalia’s is, controlled by al-Qaida — is the danger that the US/NATO are working to instigate.

maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 7:04 AM

Who is ready for some clarity on the war in Libya?

Rand Paul

maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 7:11 AM

petefrt on March 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM

As if Potus Obama, Qadhafi’s politically adopted son, didn’t oversee the initial negotiations that built the alliance between the US/NATO and al-Qaida. Speaking of biting the hand that fed him, Qadhafi organized and delivered Obama’s ’08 potus campaign tremendous international financing. All’s fair in love and war, especially on “moral” grounds of “compassion”?

Destroying from within, sabotage, is most effective.

What better way to destroy America, to destroy our US Constitution, to force US citizens into dhimmitude, than enable the New World Order agenda that negates our nation’s sovereign rights, our rights as US CITIZENS, our economy, along with our Military’s purpose.

The UN through Obama has confiscated our treasury and our Military.

Thank GWBush for his departing executive order making the Sec./Treasury autonomous, “legally” capable of confiscating tax funds at will for whatever purpose, supposedly at the Potus’ direction, though autonomy goes a long way in washing hands from culpability in prosecution.

Obama is stealing $100million a day KNOWN US-tax-funds to arm al-Qaida in Libya and order the US Military to support al-Qaida in Libya, the same al-Qaida that the US Military was initially ordered into Afghanistan and Iraq to destroy (GWBush), the same al-Qaida yesterday, today and tomorrow killing our PC-engagement-ruled Military personnel abroad AND AT HOME, Ft. Hood Texas.

Libya is NOT a threat to the US. If Italy or France wants to fight their war against Libya, let Italy or France finance (and justify) their own wars. But NOT at the expense of the USA. Note well that Italy is arranging Qadhafi’s escape.

maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM

Qadhafi organized and delivered Obama’s ’08 potus campaign tremendous international financing.
maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 7:32 AM

That’s my hunch too. Do you have any links for me that follow the money?

We know Qadhafi was funding Calypso Louie and his boys, so Libyan campaign money seems worth checking out.

petefrt on March 29, 2011 at 7:57 AM

‘If we had done nothing’…maybe a few rebels would have been killed and the rest of the people would have gone back to their hovels to wait for another time. This is what happened in Iran, China, Syria and everywhere else that it’s tried. Stop calling them small d democrats and stop calling them folks. They’re all living in the 6th century trying to fulfill the dreams written down by a madman.

Kissmygrits on March 29, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Who is ready for some clarity on the war in Libya?

Rand Paul

maverick muse on March 29, 2011 at 7:11 AM

Paul is 100% WRONG, see Mark Levin and virtually ALL Constitutional ORIGINALIST.

Robert Turner has done a lot of recent work on the history and Constitions original meaning and intent.

jp on March 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM

Who could have possibly imagined just a couple years ago that the election of a complete amateur with no executive experience at all, ever, and a resume that barely filled one half side of a sheet of paper would foul things up so badly across the board?

I mean, this is totally unexpected.

coldwarrior on March 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM

If anyone doubts that the US is an elective dictatorship one only had to watch Obamaffi in front of his massed flags and another flag in his lapel, lecturing us all last night from a “war college” on militarism as the solution to the world’s problems. Obamaffi: I will send the bombs, I will stop the genocide, I will decide where to attack and where not to attack. I will send the predator drones. I have the nuclear codes. I will remake the world, and bring prosperity to the Americans, and freedom to all those yearning to be free… I have the power!

Funny how he refuses to call this a war, but delivers his address from a War College… and say, exactly what are the majors at a war college?

If the chief export of Libya were broccoli, none of this would be happening.

PatriotRider on March 29, 2011 at 11:49 AM

The Obama Doctrine:

”Make it up as I go, and make myself look as good as possible afterward. If it blows up either Blame Bush or throw someone in the admin. under the bus”.

Tim_CA on March 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM

“We mustn’t meddle” has evolved into meddle like mad if we get UN approval?

When does the UN invade Wisconsin Govenor Walker’s office?

Obowma was less irritating when he was just eating his waffle or buying shrimp, he is not a leader.

dthorny on March 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM

A letter just sent to http://www.whitehouse.gov:

Mr. President?
We all know that you lie to America. The American people and the world are laughing at you for your attempts at manipulation and deceipt. You delay your advising role to the Americann people and Congress so that in a week or ten days or in this case 30 days you can say one of two things: ONE – See how great things have worked out OR…TWO see, the reasons we didn’t go in are obvious. YOU ARE A TOTAL LIAR. Your speeches in retrospect suck.

I HAVE NEVER IN MY LIFE BEEN EMBARASSED ABOUT BEING AN AMERICAN UNTIL YOU TOOK OFFICE. LIAR. WE WILL VOTE YOU OUT MR. PRESIDENT. PLAN ON MOVING BACK TO CHICAGO IN 2012. STOP LYING AND BEING AN OPPORTUNIST. VERY PHONY.

highninside on March 29, 2011 at 1:37 PM

This is Obama’s “Sally Struthers moment.”
Yes, for only 50 missiles a day, you can help a Libyan kid live one more day.

J_Crater on March 29, 2011 at 5:23 PM

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