Push-up bikinis for grade-school girls?

posted at 4:00 pm on March 27, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Is it possible to be both disgusted and jaded at the same time? As a grandparent, the latest line of swimwear from the purveyors at Abercrombie & Fitch disgusts me, but hardly surprises any more. ABC reports that A&F has a new line of bikinis for preadolescents that feature padded, “push-up” bikini tops for girls as young as eight years old — the same age as one of my granddaughters. Not only is the retailer already known for its near-soft-porn exploitation of teens to sell sex to preadolescents, they’re now selling inadequacy and insecurity, too:

After A&F took heat from the media, they changed the wording on their website to “striped triangle,” but the product hasn’t changed at all:

CNN also covers this today:

“How is this okay for a second-grader?” asked Rebecca Odes in a recent post on the Babble parenting blog.

“Playing at sexy is an inevitable and important part of growing up. But there’s a difference between exploring these ideas on your own and having them sold to you in a children’s catalog,” she wrote.

Gail Dines, a sociology professor at Wheelock College in Boston, similarly slammed the top, saying it would encourage girls to think about themselves in a sexual way before they are ready.

“It (also) sends out really bad signals to adult men about young girls being appropriate sexual objects,” she told CNN affiliate WHDH.

The biggest danger is to the girls who feel they need to compete on bust size before they even start to develop. What this product and its marketing tells them is that their bodies are inadequate and that they need to change their body shape immediately in order to be seen as attractive. Adolescent girls and young women already get bombarded with that message far too much as it is without starting in grade school.

The question isn’t why parents would buy something like this from Abercrombie & Fitch.  It’s why they would allow their money to be spent there at all.

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Toddler Winnie-The-Perv falsies next?

profitsbeard on March 27, 2011 at 4:04 PM

the same age as one of my granddaughters.

As is one of my granddaughters, and I share your disgust. This is as close to child porn as you can get without being overt.

fourdeucer on March 27, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Lined is one thing, push up is another.

Blake on March 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM

It will further thrill child molesters/predators.
Horrific.

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM

What this product and its marketing tells them is that their bodies are inadequate and that they need to change their body shape immediately in order to be seen as attractive.

That’s the rub, Ed. I have girls as well and the ‘world’ tempts them into believing that the bodies that God gave them are inadequate. The benefit? A lifetime money-mill of clothing, surgery, makeup and chronic malcontentedness of little girls who become women with eating disorders and depression. It’s a carousel that never stops and we wonder why our girls have the pathologies that they have. Here’s the genesis of it right here and your column is right to point it out.

Guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life. Prov 4:23

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Establishment rockstar Mitch Daniels called for a truce on social issues, so let’s not worry about this. /

Kataklysmic on March 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM

A&F has NEVER gotten one dollar from me. I have a son that I tried to raise not to treat females as objects, but when parents dress their little girls like whores, it becomes difficult. Parents who permit their daughters to dress this way will get no sympathy from when when something tragic happens to their daughter.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM

It goes right along with this story of a mom giving her 8 y/o daughter botox.

I keep thinking I can’t be surprised again, and then I am.

anne on March 27, 2011 at 4:17 PM

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Perfect addendum to Mr. Morrisseys post.

fourdeucer on March 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Parents need to just say no way. to the parents that would buy this crap -you are ill.

CWforFreedom on March 27, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Lined is one thing, push up is another.

Blake on March 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Wrong. An 8-year old girl doesn’t need lining.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM

It seems that every year about this time, whoever the goofballs are who are running the promotions department at Abercrombie & Fitch come up with some hairbrained gimmick that they have to know, even with the marble-sized brains that are rattling around in their nickel-plated thick skulls, is going to end up causing some measure of outrage, but they go ahead and go through with it anyway, because theu know that it always, for some equally idiotic reason, seems to draw in more customers.

Frankly, it would be rather nice to one day see Abercrombie & Fitch overplay their hand, push the envelope to a level that it offends even the most jaded of customer and ends up with them either being sued into poverty or driven out of business.

It’ll happen sooner or later. It’s just a question as to when.

pilamaye on March 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM

I never understood the point of bikini’s for kids that young much less push up bikini’s. Honestly I think the train has already left the station.

sharrukin on March 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM

Um. Don’t they need something to push? You can’t push up on a vertical plane.

misterpeasea on March 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM

It’s a complete perversion of the female form. Women like Joan Rivers want to look 25 and lil’ girls are wanted, by someone, to also look 25. Some preverts somewhere are pulling the strings on these clothing lines and all you have to do is read the Screwtape Letters to find out who it is and why they do it. Chronic dissatisfaction and body dysmorphia drive a lot of business–both in ‘fashion’ and ‘psychological treatment.’

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM

The normalization of this kind of stuff will make it easier for the mainstream to claim in 30 years that pedophiles have just as much of a right to marriage as everyone else.

YoungAmerican on March 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM

IIRC, the last time someone showed me an A&F catalogue, the models were all nude or semi nude. Not much clothing to choose from.
Looked more like child p0rn to me.
Shameful.

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Wrong. An 8-year old girl doesn’t need lining.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM

8 year old girls don’t need 2 piece bathing suits

darwin-t on March 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM

The benefit? A lifetime money-mill of clothing, surgery, makeup and chronic malcontentedness of little girls who become women with eating disorders and depression. It’s a carousel that never stops and we wonder why our girls have the pathologies that they have.

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM

Agreed. But as long as men prefer the “hot, young thing” this will never end.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

8 year old girls don’t need 2 piece bathing suits

darwin-t on March 27, 2011 at 4:21 PM

I don’t argue with that, either.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

Walk past an A&F at the mall and it’s all blacked out, louvred windows and some perfume/cologne in the air at 1000x the normal, tolerable levels pumping out of there. It’s like a whorehouse rather than a clothing store.

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

I have two teen girls and this crap is a constant source of conflict. I’m getting hit from all sides – TV, internet, texting, facebook, victorias secret (how did THEY get more respectable than Fredericks of Hollywood – better photographers?) and even catalogs for common mall stores. There were toys – like bratz – that I had to forbid.

I’m fighting Hillary’s village all the time. What happened to everyone watching out for each other’s kids?

Cricket624 on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

ummmmm nope, nada, nyet, no way no how…

disgusting

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:24 PM

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

is there a red light right outside the door?

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:25 PM

I’m fighting Hillary’s village all the time.
Cricket624 on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

+1!!!

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:25 PM

pedophile heaven

Eren on March 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Abercrombie & Fitch is the proud commercial emblem of our society’s degeneration. My grandfather bought specially-made his shotguns there in the 1950s. I’m not kidding.

rrpjr on March 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Look, if you’re buying clothes for your pre-adolescent at A&F, you get what you deserve. No way I’d take either of my daughters in there.

Chris of Rights on March 27, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Eren on March 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Yup.

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Another thought – ever notice how “artists” who want to be “cutting edge” do so by trying to offend people with disrepect for sex or religion? They still try, but it’s so overdone that its both boring and cliche. My daughter used to like Lady Gaga, but I called her just a slut Madonna retread. When I showed her Madonnas old videos, she stopped liking Gaga.

Cricket624 on March 27, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Agreed. But as long as men prefer the “hot, young thing” this will never end.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:22 PM

that is true. Men want to have the hot young thing and women want to be the hot young thing. Trouble is, its something that obviously few women have for very long, nor that very many men can have. Whatever happened to loving someone for who they are and being satisfied with that? This is terrible, the things that ‘please’ the eye have overtaken the true meaning of love and attraction. It’s a perversion when we are trying to create breasts that aren’t there for the purpose of stimulating or sexualizing a child to be something she is not that will lead others to ogle at something that they cannot and should not be ogling at. And people wonder why children are so victimized in so many ways by so many people, in so many forms. my 2c

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM

pedophile heaven

Eren on March 27, 2011 at 4:26 PM

I’m beginning to think that A&F board and ceo are all pedophiles…

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM

is there a red light right outside the door?

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:25 PM

you could walk past the place blindfolded and your sense of smell and hearing would tell you all that you needed to know about the place.

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:29 PM

The question isn’t why parents would buy something like this from Abercrombie & Fitch. It’s why they would allow their money to be spent there at all.

THANK YOU!!!! The hours of argument I have had with my 13 year old daughter over this horrendous store just keep mounting, and the fact that most of my friends let their daughters shop there only makes it harder on me. I don’t mind telling you that I’m shocked at them and disappointed. Fortunately, I think she’s learning that I will not cave. I hate this store and not a penny of my money will go to fund it and its owners’ perverted agenda. She can stomp and pout and scream until the cows come home. I. Will. Not. Budge!!!

pannw on March 27, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Men’s clothes online catalogue.

WTF????????????

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

What’s next from A&F for little boys, tight jeans with that rolled up sock-like endowment?

Kini on March 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

“Eight year olds, Dude…”

Caper29 on March 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:29 PM

gotcha :)

haven’t been to a mall in quite some time…

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM

You an me both, darlin’
Love my online shopping.

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Lined is one thing, push up is another.

Blake on March 27, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Wrong. An 8-year old girl doesn’t need lining.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM

I agree with Blake. Note that some of the suits feature white fabric. White fabric often becomes transparent when wet. A lining offers modesty and the ability to incorporate white sections into the clothing design. It’s the concept of padding the bikinis to make the children look voluptuous and billing the tops as “push-up” that I find revolting.

Jill1066 on March 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

Perhaps A&F could make a push up bra for me that looks mildly realistic instead of looking like the bra is shoving my breasts up to my neck to strangle me….
And I’m 34….

A&F have stupid, tasteless clothing for all ages. Mazel Tov!

mjk on March 27, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Where do these padded bikini tops end up when they get wet? I see a law suit coming.

meci on March 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

8 year old girls don’t need 2 piece bathing suits

darwin-t on March 27, 2011 at 4:21

I very much agree, especially out in a public area. Let them be little girls while they still can.

On the other hand, this is marketing and free enterprise at work. Either will sell or won’t. Not our choice unless we have young girls to buy things for.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM

Jill1066 on March 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

An 8-year old doesn’t need lining. Don’t buy white.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:42 PM

You can send Abercrombie your thoughtful thoughts at this link:

https://abercrombie.custhelp.com/app/ask/cookie_check/1

MikeknaJ on March 27, 2011 at 4:43 PM

OT: dear leader’s curse hits again…

wow congrats to VCU!!!

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:33 PM

yeah baby :)

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM

gotcha :)

haven’t been to a mall in quite some time…

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:31 PM

You’re not missing a thing.

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Is it possible to be both disgusted and jaded at the same time?

We elected Obama…..

percysunshine on March 27, 2011 at 4:46 PM

You’re not missing a thing.

ted c on March 27, 2011 at 4:45 PM

indeed

cmsinaz on March 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

This is pretty sick and disgusting. A&F has been pushing the envelop to the point where it borders on pedophilia. I for one would never step foot in one of their stores, nor allow children in there. Perhaps some state attorney’s general will do a thorough investigation and possibly file criminal charges if they can make a case of child exploitation that approached sexual battery.

simkeith on March 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Starve the perverted beast.

Naturally Curly on March 27, 2011 at 4:47 PM

OmahaCon, you ought to check out the Journal Star article today on coach Ron Brown. He led his annual FreedMen convention this weekend and the hatred/vitriol being spewed in the comments is astonishing.

Cornhusker on March 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Roman Polanski gives two thumbs up.

Cicero43 on March 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Cultural/consumer barometer posts always bug me – don’t like the product, then don’t buy the product.

AF does this stuff all the time because they know it will ultimately find itself to places like this – free advertising beats paid advertising.

While I sympathize with parents and grandparents who worry about their children being exposed to this stuff, I worry a lot more about how our nation’s children always rank first in self-esteem, and much farther down in math, reading comprehension, etc, to say nothing of the illiteracy and incarceration rates for boys and young men.

I’m not a h8r Ed, but while your concern is no doubt genuine, this is a fabricated issue more appropriate for ‘The View.’

elcapt on March 27, 2011 at 4:52 PM

A residual product of this type of perverted marketing strategy is the way men have to be constantly alert to the way we can relate to our grand kids without raising the suspicion of the general public. Fathers of young girls probably feel the same way.

fourdeucer on March 27, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Cornhusker on March 27, 2011 at 4:48 PM

<a href=”http://journalstar.com/news/local/article_22e4c29c-24d7-5110-9c1f-aa8bff03fa17.html?mode=comments”>Wow!

OmahaConservative on March 27, 2011 at 4:55 PM

The bottom line here is that 8-year-olds aren’t getting these trashy swimsuits unless their parents are buying them for them. We have a parenting problem, not an Abercrombie & Fitch problem.

I’m fighting Hillary’s village all the time. What happened to everyone watching out for each other’s kids?

Cricket624 on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

I just had a conversation with someone today about this “village” idea. The truth is, the village did at one time help to raise the child. When I was a kid, everyone’s parents (oh, except the odd one or two) would have been appalled by sexualized pre-teen clothing like this. When I was a kid, every adult in the neighborhood was an authority figure and had more or less the same values as my parents. When I was a kid, 14-year-old girls giving birth in the inner city were not called “single moms.” When I was a kid, the kid who hits the bully back and the bully himself were not treated the same by the school system. The village is gone, and has been replaced by Hillary’s ideological moral relativism and statist impulses, which simply strip the individual of all dignity — must strip the individual of all dignity — in order to survive. I have always found it so bitterly ironic that Hillary Clinton and her ilk lament the loss of shared community values regarding the raising of children, when they are the ones who killed those values.

Rational Thought on March 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM

This brings to mind the theme of Asimov’s Foundation novels. A dark age culture with technology. The Dark Ages viewed children as miniature adults and treated just like adults in all ways. The consequences of rooting out the Judeo-Christian heritage in this nation will be a return to the dark ages in our social/ethical/morall behaviors. So this comes as no surprise.

chemman on March 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM

You know parents shouldn’t have to adopt a siege mentality just to raise their children as children rather than sex objects.

sharrukin on March 27, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Now for something that’s NOT disgusting:

VCU Rams going to the Final Four!

hillbillyjim on March 27, 2011 at 5:01 PM

The fact that they sell this crap doesn’t sadden me like the fact that there are moron parents that buy this crap for their kids. I refuse to support this company. Unfortunately, we live in an era where parents are clueless.

Major Nuisance on March 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM

This brings to mind the theme of Asimov’s Foundation novels. A dark age culture with technology. The Dark Ages viewed children as miniature adults and treated just like adults in all ways. The consequences of rooting out the Judeo-Christian heritage in this nation will be a return to the dark ages in our social/ethical/morall behaviors. So this comes as no surprise.

The Mule was….well…Obama.

percysunshine on March 27, 2011 at 5:04 PM

It’s not just clothing makers. Hollywood has been sexualizing our kids for decades with dirty movies & TV shows marketed to kids. And as long as parents are stupid, wicked, and/or ignorant enough to keep their kids watching, the crap will keep oozing out.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Wrong. An 8-year old girl doesn’t need lining.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Wrong. I have worked at elementary schools, some girls do start development early, some are heavy, and could use a decently lined swimsuit. But not push up, or “padded.” Triple lined, and decently made to cover correctly. Regardless of color.

di butler on March 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

…To help parents know what’s OK & what’s not in media, check out http://www.pluggedin.com/

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM

chemman on March 27, 2011 at 4:59 PM

On that note here is Jack Trotter, writing in the March 2011 Chronicles magazine:

“In our post-Freudian world, it is often assumed that childhood innocence was yet another product of Victorian repression. There is at least a grain of truth in this. British philosopher Roger Scruton has noted that the Victorian idealization of childhood (Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, et al.) was in part a barrier erected against the ongoing secularization of Western society. After all, the concept of innocence is inextricably tied to Christian religious aspirations: The quest for sanctity is a quest for the restoration of a lost moral innocence. Did not our Lord Himself say, “Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven”? No doubt a child’s awareness of herself as a sexual being does begin well before pubescence, but this awareness, under normal circumstances, occurs largely at a subliminal level. What we have witnessed over the course of the 20th century, and accelerating especially in recent years, is an unseemly haste to awaken carnal knowledge at an earlier age. I suggest that there is more at work here than the profit motive and parental permissiveness. A powerful element of perversity motivates our urge to parade before the public eye little girls in the dishabille of the courtesan. It is as though we are now flaunting our loss of faith in the very possibility of moral innocence, sacrificing our children upon the altar of our defiant cynicism. ”

aengus on March 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM

“It (also) sends out really bad signals to adult men about young girls being appropriate sexual objects,” she told CNN affiliate WHDH.

This is what concerns me more than anything.

ButterflyDragon on March 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM

I blame this on the…INSERT YOUR DEMON HERE…and I have said all along that…INSERT YOUR DEMON HERE…will never be satisfied until everyone of the ….INSERT YOUR VICTIM HERE…is a…INSERT YOUR HYPERBOLIC OUTCOME HERE…and we must never rest until we return to…INSERT YOUR FAVORITE OUTCOME HERE…once and for all.
There, I’ve said it.

Observation on March 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Establishment rockstar Mitch Daniels called for a truce on social issues, so let’s not worry about this. /
Kataklysmic on March 27, 2011 at 4:16 PM

*slow golf clap*

Congrats, you found a way to take a story as salacious as this and manage to twist it to score cheap political points against a politician you disagree with.

Vyce on March 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Well, if A&F is doing it, you know JC Penney won’t be too far behind.

DaydreamBeliever on March 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM

There are plenty of ways to provide stylish clothes for children without tarting them up to look like a cheap prostitute’s mini-me.

Retro and vintage clothes are very much on-trend right now, and the genuine pieces are for the most part very modest by today’s standards. They can also be had for the cheap provided you are willing to hunt. I have wearable clothes and accessories that date all the way back to the Edwardian period, and when I wear this stuff all I ever get are compliments, and no one thinks I’m strange. (It also nicely satisfies the ever-so-important teenage requirement that YOU be the only one at school to have …) I’ve never met a kid who turned up their nose at thrift store hunting.*** It’s fun, and you can teach them about, well, thrift.

Also, if you’re lucky enough to live near an outlet mall, wait for the end-of-season clearance sales to take advantage of big designer brands slashed to prices less than all the trashy-looking mall garbage. Lots more natural fabrics, classic designs, and more figure-flattering patterns than what you’ll find elsewhere. Plus there’s always the prestige factor of saying you’ve got the good stuff in your closet–want to make the A&F crowd jealous? Tell them about your Gucci collection. I have lots of really high-end brand name goods that I paid less for than the hideous poly-cotton A&F schlock that looks like Linda Blair barfed a load of plaid and crooked seams onto your chest. Granted, there’s a lot of big brands that look hideous too, but for every Juicy Couture and Thakoon there’s Hugo Boss and Burberry.

***If they are being snobs about *gasp* USED clothes, then they weren’t raised right. Besides, if you’re turning up your nose at genuine Chanel because it’s gently used, there’s something wrong here…(Yes I’ve found Chanel while out thrifting. That was a happy day indeed.)

DangerHighVoltage on March 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Vyce on March 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Looks like you’re the one doing the twisting. Kataklysmic made a good, valid point. Are there social values worth fighting for? Daniels apparently says no.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

aengus on March 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM

He did a good job of explaining it.

chemman on March 27, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Well, if A&F is doing it, you know JC Penney won’t be too far behind.

DaydreamBeliever on March 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM

They already do it. Same with Macy’s, Sears, etc. I don’t hardly shop at these places anymore except to buy business clothes. Their casual selections are a mess of cheap fabrics and hideous sequins in bright obnoxious colors. I do not want to look like a ruffly sequinned faux-hobo.

DangerHighVoltage on March 27, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Looks like you’re the one doing the twisting. Kataklysmic made a good, valid point. Are there social values worth fighting for? Daniels apparently says no.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

Really, I can’t fathom what sort of twisted leaps in logic Kat or you must experience, to equate Mitch’s statement, which essentially boils down to nothing more than “if you want to win in 2012, hammer people over the head with fiscal conservatism, because THAT is what people will unite behind you on”, and the assertion as fact that Mitch’s statement = being a-okay with the sexualization of pre-teen girls.

Get a f***ing hold of yourselves. You’re pulling a classic line from the liberal playbook, taking something that doesn’t REALLY relate to the subject at hand, and using it as “proof” that your preferred political target is not only wrong about a position on an issue, but morally bankrupt for holding that opinion, even though that position has nothing to do with THIS issue. How proud you must be.

Vyce on March 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Straight people…bring sex into the schools again…

Better get on that gay marriage thing and wipe it out!

And yes…that was generalizing nonsensically…sounds familiar tho.

Looks like you’re the one doing the twisting. Kataklysmic made a good, valid point. Are there social values worth fighting for? Daniels apparently says no.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

This is no issue that the government can solve. Parents, don’t let your kids wear sexy outfits to school. End of story.

JetBoy on March 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

OT ~ Has Trump asked for a meeting with Governor Abercrombie yet? Just askin’…

Fallon on March 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Vyce on March 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Since you didn’t read it when you copy-n-pasted it:
Kataklysmic made a good, valid point. Are there social values worth fighting for? Daniels apparently says no.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:31 PM

JetBoy on March 27, 2011 at 5:28 PM

No one here is calling for govt involvement.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:32 PM

A bit OT, but does anyone here remember when A&F was an upscale sporting goods outfitter?

How the h*ll do you go from safari gear to overpriced poorly-embroidered hoodies?

DangerHighVoltage on March 27, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Oh, this just makes me sick! Between me and you, my d-i-l has my 8 yo grandaughter wearing a beginners already. The child does not need one and I asked my d-i-l why one day and she said “just in case”. I said jic what and my d-i-l said jic she develops one day before I notice….?????????? Que? I love my d-i-l dearly but sometimes I wonder…..ya know? Oh and my 8 yo grandaughter wears 2 piece bathing suits which I personally disagree with and have said so to my son and d-i-l, what can ya do?

sicoit on March 27, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Looks like you’re the one doing the twisting. Kataklysmic made a good, valid point. Are there social values worth fighting for? Daniels apparently says no.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:21 PM

If the next President can focus on the budget, the marketplace can handle the swimwear questions. Not every problem requires government intervention. Daniels is right that Obama is most vulnerable when criticism is focused on his fiscal mismanagement.

dedalus on March 27, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Very bullish for the boob job industry. More work for plastic surgeons, hospitals, nurses and silicone implant manufacturers.

Viator on March 27, 2011 at 5:38 PM

All you really need to know about A&F is that it’s at the mall.

How much of an upscale brand can you really have when it’s located right next to Spencer Gifts, where they sell cans of “fart spray” and posters of Camaros?

Treat them like what they are, a retailer of common trash.

The Lone Platypus on March 27, 2011 at 5:41 PM

di butler on March 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Wrong. If an 8 year old girl is developing early, don’t buy her a white bathing suit. And an 8 year old girl developing early is extremely rare and if you really worked at elementary schools, as you claim, you would know this. It is so rare that it can’t be used for an excuse for anything.

You are merely perpetuating the ‘crime’ that is A&F.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 5:42 PM

What, no swim trunks for 8 year old boys with built-in codpiece?

Good Solid B-Plus on March 27, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Let’s see now, teaching from K and up that sex/masturbation/homosexuality/whatever is ok, teaching them about how to put on a condom (using a banana), a TEACHER actually doing it in front of her students, having children perform falllatio on each other in class, selling push ups to 8yo, I wonder what’s going on?
THIS.ALL.DISGUSTS.ME.TO.HIGH.HE!!!

sicoit on March 27, 2011 at 5:44 PM

I’m not looking forward to having kids and trying to raise quasi normal sensible children in this atmosphere. If I thought it was somewhat tough for my parents (and I was born in 83) I don’t even want to imagine what my wife and I will have to go through especially with crap like this around.

My daughter asked for that a simple “hell no” would suffice

Defector01 on March 27, 2011 at 5:45 PM

DangerHighVoltage on March 27, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Who gives a crap about clothes being stylish for kids? That thought is what is totally wrong in this culture. Kids’ clothing needs to be durable, washable and withstand the growth spurts. Anything else is what is wrong with society.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Who owns A&F?

Voting with your pocketbook will eventually collapse crap companies like this.

PappyD61 on March 27, 2011 at 5:47 PM

Oh and my 8 yo grandaughter wears 2 piece bathing suits which I personally disagree with and have said so to my son and d-i-l, what can ya do?

sicoit on March 27, 2011 at 5:36 PM

Tell them that every male from 12-dead is gawking at your granddaughter…

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 5:49 PM

I’m in my early twenties and am pretty fashion-forward; I try to look my best and often get my clothes from more upscale, name brand stores. (After a few months of saving, of course.)

But I have never, ever even set foot into an Abercrombie & Fitch store. I refuse to wear a stitch of their clothing and I’ll be sure to pass that sentiment on to my children someday.

KellyBomelly on March 27, 2011 at 5:50 PM

from Robert Graves’ “I Claudius”,: the Emperor Claudius contemplates the corruption of Rome:

Claudius: “Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.”

wraithby on March 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Defector01 on March 27, 2011 at 5:45 PM

Don’t have children.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Don’t have children.

ladyingray on March 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Kids are worth it.

sharrukin on March 27, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Okay, I am starting to feel old. When did A&F start catering to 8 year olds? It used to target college and older high school kids.

I remember it being an annoying place to shop. The music is way too loud, it’s too dark and it smells like cheap perfume. Oh, and there is a lot of naked-ish pics on the wall for being a store that sells clothing.

I once baa-ed at my girls in A&F for wanting the stupid expensie, frayed and worn clothes they sold there. Yeah, I was that mom that embarrassed them in front of their friends, lol.

Hey, you kids, get off my lawn! When did all this happen?

Fallon on March 27, 2011 at 5:52 PM

I have two teen girls and this crap is a constant source of conflict. I’m getting hit from all sides – TV, internet, texting, facebook, victorias secret (how did THEY get more respectable than Fredericks of Hollywood – better photographers?) and even catalogs for common mall stores. There were toys – like bratz – that I had to forbid.

I’m fighting Hillary’s village all the time. What happened to everyone watching out for each other’s kids?

Cricket624 on March 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM

Bratz….absolutely forbidden when my kids were growing up too. I also refused to buy my daughter anything calvin klein when they came out with those STUPID commercials with Brooke Shields and her cr@p about “my mother is soooo beautiful” or whatever.
Watching out for each other’s kids???? You can get sued these days if you pi$$ them/their parents off. THAT’S what happened. :-( God help us.

sicoit on March 27, 2011 at 5:53 PM

dedalus on March 27, 2011 at 5:37 PM

*sigh*
Again, no one here is calling for govt involvement.

itsnotaboutme on March 27, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Abercrombie & Fitch was much less controversial back in the old days when they sold …. God Forbid! …. GUNS!!!

bannedbyhuffpo on March 27, 2011 at 5:56 PM

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