Quotes of the day

posted at 10:37 pm on March 23, 2011 by Allahpundit

“President Obama would deliver a shellacking to a generic Republican candidate if 2012′s presidential election were held today, a new poll found Wednesday.

“Forty-seven percent of registered voters said they would choose to reelect Obama, compared to 35 percent who would prefer an unnamed Republican candidate, while 16 percent were undecided, a Pew Research Center poll found.

“That puts Obama at basically the same position as President George W. Bush at a similar point in his presidency, and a stronger standing than President Clinton held in March of 1995.”

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“Only a few months into his political career, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is considering a presidential bid.

“‘Rand would not run if his dad’s running,’ said Jesse Benton, political director for Paul’s father, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). ‘But if his dad doesn’t run and he fails to see a viable candidate or candidates in the Republican field, that are serious about debt spending and the budget crisis facing our country, then he will be very tempted to weigh his options.’

“He’s been visiting the key primary states of Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire, giving speeches and meeting with local Republican leaders — a largely under the radar effort because, until now, no one thought the newly elected senator would seriously consider the race.”

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“While it’s hard to envision Paul actually winning the GOP nod, improving on his father’s performance in the 2008 primaries seems entirely possible. Ron Paul finished fifth in Iowa with 9 percent and fifth in New Hampshire with 8 percent, then became a media afterthought. Given that he began the campaign with no money, no name recognition and no expectations, this represented a remarkable showing; he ended up beating Rudy Giuliani — the early GOP front-runner — in nearly every state in which they both competed. But it was also something of a disappointment, given the tens of millions of dollars Paul was able to raise and the free media he attracted. The New Hampshire GOP electorate, with its fierce libertarian bent, seemed a particularly promising audience for his message, and his campaign had hoped to break through with a much stronger performance there.

“Rand Paul could potentially deliver such a performance. In a crowded field likely to underwhelm the GOP base, it’s not hard to imagine Paul — with his brash style and message of absolute ideological purity — standing out in debates and winning over more Republican voters than his father, who still struggles with basic television skills. The best-case scenario for Paul would probably be replicating what Pat Buchanan achieved in 1996: a surprisingly strong showing in Iowa (he nabbed 23 percent, good for second place), followed by a startling win (with just 29 percent of the vote) in New Hampshire — at which point a panicked GOP establishment rallied around the strongest non-Buchanan candidate (Bob Dole) and denied him the nomination.”

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“During a Q-and-A session, he was asked about his January comments on CNN that he’d be tempted to run if Palin were a candidate. Giuliani called that remark ‘rash.’ But he said his fears of the GOP choosing a nominee who can’t win a general election might prompt him to run.

“‘If all we are faced with are candidates that are too far right so that they can’t win the general election, then that’s when I’d reconsider doing it,’ Giuliani said.

“‘Do not underestimate Barack Obama. He is a very ineffective president but a very effective politician,’ Giuliani said. Obama can win a second term ‘if we put up a candidate that he can isolate as a right-wing candidate, too far-right.’

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“Part of Romney’s popularity among Tea Partyers is simply a product of the fact that he’s well liked among all Republicans; 21% in this survey say they’d like him to be the candidate. It’s early enough that all polling should be taken pretty lightly and Romney is certainly benefiting from high name recognition across the board. But it’s notable that he actually performs a bit better among self-identified Tea Party members than with the party overall. There are a few explanations for this. Romney does especially well with older and wealthier Republicans, two characteristics polling suggests is common in the Tea Party. Related to affluence, Tea Partyers are also on average better educated, and they may be identifying with Romney as an Ivy Leaguer.”

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Palin Romney 2012 = Obama 2013

Count it.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM
RomneyPalin’s unelectable.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:26 PM

Anyone who thinks she is electable is completely delusional.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

And where does that put Ron Paul? Too far right?

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Sadly, probably so.

But at least I’ll admit it.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

There is no way Ron or Rand Paul could win. Ron is a nut and Rand will be trashed for having Ron for a father. If you think Palin got trashed I guarantee you it will be brutal for Rand.

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

That does it.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

YOU’RE the one who thinks Palin should be barefoot and pregnant!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

You leave that poor cat alone!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Have him stuffed like they’re going to do with Knut the Polar Bear?
Why Lance, that’s a great idea!
*smirk*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Sure thing. I’ll be around. I say he loses by at least 8-10 points. In fact, I will predict that polls in October 2012 have him 15 points down.

Palin would be in worse shape.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:28 PM

No, she’d at least have a base of support among the southern and some midwestern states. Romney has little outside of maybe NH, Michigan and Utah…and I’d bet he’ll lose Michigan.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:30 PM

sarah did well on greta tonight…

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

I didn’t know that Greta was such an advocate for ‘palestine’. Greta sickens me at times.

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

At this point Romney, T-Paw or Daniels would be the best chance. None of them would beat Obama at this point in time.

Palin would get slaughtered in the general, but she certainly would be an entertaining punching bag.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

I know its purposeful, but try to *focus*. Rand =/= Ron, Ron =/= Rand. Its really that simple.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Rand’s sister and possibly Rand himself along with his mother were on the Payroll from the profits from the “Ron Paul Newsletters”….it is by no means a stretch to think that, as one of many, gets tied around his neck if he became relevant.

Its all irrelevant, Ron Paul is running. He is a vain man on a mission to destroy the GOP and traditional Constitutioanal Conservatism with his brand of Rothbardian Anarchism, rhetorically calling itself something else.
again, there is zero chance he could win the nomination.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Anyone who thinks she Romney is electable is completely delusional.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Fixed.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Congress is where the real power is, and therefore where the real accomplishments are to be had.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Mr. UN-ilateral Military Action Without Congressional Approval begs to disagree.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

WTF is with politicians wanting to run for another office when they haven’t even finished one term in the office they have? Rand Paul has been a Senator for less than 90 days and he thinks he’s qualified to run for President? That’s just crazy.

Experience counts for something, especially when it comes to being leader of the free world. You’d think we’d have learned that lesson with all the Obamateurisms of the day we’ve witnessed since the moment Obama took office. Do the HA Libertardians seriously think that a junior Senator from one of the less populous states in the union with no executive experience who hasn’t even completed a single year in the first elected office he’s ever held should be considered a serious candidate for POTUS? Are you f’ing insane?

At least Sara Palin finished two complete terms as mayor of Wasilla and most of her term as governor.

Dukeboy01 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

YOU’RE the one who thinks Palin should be barefoot and pregnant!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

I have NEVER said anything remotely close to that.
Hornet! Margate! Lance is picking on me again!
*whine*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Anyone who thinks she is electable is completely delusional.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Nonsense. She’s electable. Just like most of the GOP field is.

The problem is she could also get creamed, and take Congress down with her. And the ramifications of that are as horrible (if not more so) as they would be glorious if she were to win.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

At this point Romney, T-Paw or Daniels …

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

LOL…you could run all three as a triumvirate and they still wouldn’t crack 200 electoral votes.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Rand isn’t in the clear yet either, if he were to run for POTUS he’ll have to decide whether to take non traditional Conservative positions and be anarchist/libertarian like his father and not have a prayer at winning OR take positions similar to what he campaigned for in Ky. GOP Primary.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Well if he goes Ron Paul he will likely gain the same level of popularity as his father. Maybe even higher, say 3%?

That is one reason I would like to see him as VP first. So we can judge him a little better to see who he is. Same reason I am not thrilled with Cain yet. I want to see how he operates in power with constituents and lobbyists at his heels.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Well, I will leave you clowns with one final thought: On Nov 6th, 2012, a ham sammich will beat Chicago Jesus.

Speaking of sammiches,Dork-Star? I’m hungry.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

So,after watching Kristol,on the video,with his
perma-smile,it was a good thing at the time,in
2008,

for a good fit for McCain!!!!!!!!!!!

I have watched,listened to Sarah,and every stinking
rumour that the Left,and right have tried on Palin,
and I’m getting real sick and tired,of this Hill Billy
Idiot Polarising type description of Cuda’!!

*I DO HOPE,that sanity returns to the RightSphere Pundits
and journalists….soon!!!!

*(I am sorry,for the use,of the Big Caps Brigade)

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM

There is no way Ron or Rand Paul could win. Ron is a nut and Rand will be trashed for having Ron for a father. If you think Palin got trashed I guarantee you it will be brutal for Rand.

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

ding ding ding

and either would be the gift that kept on giving to the Dems, which is why the MSM doesn’t challenge them now. Same reason Pat Buchanan is the MSNBC “conservative” of record.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM

I didn’t know that Greta was such an advocate for ‘palestine’. Greta sickens me at times.

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Greta supports an imaginary place?
Does she still believe in the Easter Bunny too?

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

No, you never said it, but you might as well have.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Mr. UN-ilateral Military Action Without Congressional Approval begs to disagree.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

Congress always has the big stick in such matters.

They can defund.

Or they can impeach.

Give me the choice between Congress and the WH, and I’ll choose congress every time.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Its Rand Paul not Ron Paul.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM

doesn’t matter the MSM will run against Ron Paul. Sins of the father etc.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Well, I will leave you clowns with one final thought: On Nov 6th, 2012, a ham sammich will beat Chicago Jesus.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

Yeah, but the GOP will nominate a loser anyway. Romney.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

The Romney poll gives me two things to chuckle about:

1: The Palinistas response.
2. Liberals who will be heartbroken to learn that Tea Partiers are well-educated and identify with the Ivy League – not the rabid junkyard dog yahoos they imagine

Buy Danish on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Lance, leave Antwerp alone!!

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Nonsense. She’s electable. Just like most of the GOP field is.

She is the only one not electable.

Unfortunately around here, the bubble effect has blinded the true believers.

The woman is a laughing stock outside of the minions.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:32 PM

*blows a totally platonic kiss*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM

This is all academic anyway. According to the Obama Doctrine, we will probably be at war with Canada, Mauritius, and the Solomon Islands in 2012; there won’t be time for an election.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM

WTF is with politicians wanting to run for another office when they haven’t even finished one term in the office they have?

At least Sara Palin finished two complete terms as mayor of Wasilla and most of her term as governor.

Dukeboy01 on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

This is some kind of weird ironic joke, right?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:35 PM

Palin has to be one of the most incompetent people that you could put up against Obama. Plus, a barnyard pig could beat her in a debate. All she does is spout talking points and read crap off of her hand.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Did I miss your pick? Please, enlighten the *minions* . . .

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Lance, leave Antwerp alone!!

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

I gave-up FB for Lent and he’s going through twerp-withdrawal.
LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Unfortunately around here, the bubble effect has blinded the true believers.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Trust me, as any of the Palintologists can attest, I am far from a true believer.

And I take her extremely seriously, both for good and ill.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:37 PM

She is the only one not electable.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Oh, give me a break. None of those eminently respectable, “electable” vanilla squishes would approach 200 EVs. Every one of them would get pummeled. This is an expression of gutless, spineless “let’s pick our candidate based on polls and focus groups” garbage. Obama’s going to get re-elected.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM

doesn’t matter the MSM will run against Ron Paul. Sins of the father etc.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

They would as a presidential candidate but as VP that would be a weak tea. I want someone who is serious about cutting for a Palin VP and we don’t have very many out there.

Sarah Palin
Rand Paul
Paul Ryan

Who else is there?

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Rand Paul has been a Senator for less than 90 days and he thinks he’s qualified to run for President? That’s just crazy.

its also proof that we should be highly skeptical of who he really is.

Marco Rubio is the freshman Senator with a real chance at being POTUS one day, he’s playing it smart right now. He’s much much more likely to be the VP nominee in 2012 than Rand Paul.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Did I miss your pick? Please, enlighten the *minions* . . .

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM

Pawlenty. LOL. He’s gonna burn down da house, I tell ya.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Whatever you like. It’s a bet I will not lose. I can lay whatever you’re worth.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Well, I doubt that. But I don’t bet my worth… even inthe market.

How’s a grand sound?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM

If you’re going to try and pick a fight, you should try to be less obvious and more witty. Wild haymakers and spittle will only get you punched in the groin and tossed out the door.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM

Video: Sarah Palin on the Wooten “scandal” and on being VP
posted at 9:06 pm on July 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/07/31/video-sarah-palin-on-the-wooten-scandal-and-on-being-vp/

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Pawlenty. LOL. He’s gonna burn down da house, I tell ya.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Isn’t Ricky a Mitt supporter…and quit pickin’ on T-Paw.
LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Pawlenty. LOL. He’s gonna burn down da house, I tell ya.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:39 PM

Yeah. I fall asleep listening to the 60-second commercial spot for his book: “CouragetoStandtheBook.com.” zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:41 PM

doesn’t matter the MSM will run against Ron Paul. Sins of the father etc.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:34 PM

only after nominated, during GOP primary the MSM would probably help promote him hoping he won.

another thing to keep in mind, Rand Paul grew up around Lew Rockwell along with his father and the other proud Anarchist at LRC….you run for POTUS, seriously, and your whole life is covered.

Your talking about a group here that are Neo-Confederates, anarchist, conspiracy theorist, and so on…i.e the gutter of politics.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Well, I doubt that. But I don’t bet my worth… even inthe market.

How’s a grand sound?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM

OK. Sounds like I’ll have an extra grand then.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:44 PM

I like T-Paw more and more. I just wish he would project a wee bit more charisma. Although, I must say he’s getting better. And as much as it pains me to say he is less galvanizing than Palin.

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Conservatives can’t get their act together and the majority of them that are even meagerly viable so far are basically unscrupulous cretins.

Unless he completely flat-lines his presidency somehow it will be four more years of Barack Hussein Obama… who will be termed out and most likely a lame duck, hence, he’ll have nothing to lose. Nothing worth bragging about will get accomplished. The damage that has been done will not be undone. Disaster truly and literally looms.

FlatFoot on March 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM

OK. Sounds like I’ll have an extra grand then.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Done.

If Romeny gets the nomination, I have Romney +8. For $1000.

Agreed?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM

If you’re going to try and pick a fight, you should try to be less obvious and more witty. Wild haymakers and spittle will only get you punched in the groin and tossed out the door.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:40 PM

I’m shaking in my boots. Seriously, anyone that thinks Palin can win might as well cast a vote for a cockroach as it’d have a better chance of winning.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

OK. Sounds like I’ll have an extra grand then.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Done.

If Romeny gets the nomination, I have Romney +8. For $1000.

Agreed?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Uh-uh. I said he’d lose by 8-10 points. You have Romney +7 or better.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

You really aren’t very good at this are you?

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:47 PM

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

So you missed the part about being less obvious and more witty.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:47 PM

I’m shaking in my boots. Seriously, anyone that thinks Palin can win might as well cast a vote for a cockroach as it’d have a better chance of winning.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Ooooh…pigs and cockroaches and 8-month-old jabs…original!

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:48 PM

CNN poll: 50% say Palin isn’t qualified to be president
posted at 9:24 pm on August 31, 2008 by Allahpundit
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/cnn-poll-50-say-palin-isnt-qualified-to-be-president/

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:48 PM

Uh-uh. I said he’d lose by 8-10 points. You have Romney +7 or better.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

The numbers ain’t your strong suit, are they.

What if he loses by 7.5?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:48 PM

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Who’s your candidate?

Emperor Norton on March 23, 2011 at 11:49 PM

Biden on Palin: “She’s good looking”
posted at 7:41 pm on August 31, 2008 by Allahpundit

Nothing against our pal Tammy Bruce, who’s exercised by his comment, but (a) he’s clearly joking, (b) he himself is the butt of the joke, not Palin, and er, (c) he’s right.
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/31/biden-on-palin-shes-good-looking/

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:49 PM

Hey HITH, why do you think Palin can’t get elected? Or are you just a troll trying to attract attention from your betters?

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

The numbers ain’t your strong suit, are they.

What if he loses by 7.5?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:48 PM

They apparently aren’t yours. LOL I said if Romney is the nominee he will lose by at least 8 points. Want to take me up on that?

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Lance: yesterday I threatened to turn Sheldon into a mini-throw-rug….or would he look better as mittens?
*ducks*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

I think Sheldon’s relatives have been with me. “Pay attention to me or the dog gets it”?

katy the mean old lady on March 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:46 PM

Who’s your candidate?

Emperor Norton on March 23, 2011 at 11:49 PM

Obama.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:51 PM

Quotes of the day
posted at 10:25 pm on August 30, 2008 by Allahpundit

“The great threat to the Obama-Biden ticket can be captured in one word: authenticity.”
*
“Liberals love Obama because he is a Numinous Negro.

Conservatives love Palin because she has a Downs baby and an M-16.”
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/30/quote-of-the-day-351/

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:52 PM

They apparently aren’t yours. LOL I said if Romney is the nominee he will lose by at least 8 points. Want to take me up on that?

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

And I say he loses by less than 8. In my world, 7.5 < 8.

So, I have Romney +8 if he gets the nomination, right?

Or are you now backing off your assertion that he loses by 8 or more?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:52 PM

And I say he loses by less than 8. In my world, 7.5 < 8.

So, I have Romney +8 if he gets the nomination, right?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:52 PM

That’s right. Done deal.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:53 PM

I think hottie may be googling for someone other than O.

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:54 PM

I think Sheldon’s relatives have been with me. “Pay attention to me or the dog gets it”?

katy the mean old lady on March 23, 2011 at 11:50 PM

Lance and I this running thing with me threatening to do something to Sheldon-a 3 year old dsh tabby(named after Sheldon Cooper of BBT-and Lance telling me to leave him alone.

I also have an 11 year old dilute-tortie Siamese-mix named:
Czarina Sasha KAT-erina CAT-ova ‘Sasha’

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM

I have NEVER said anything remotely close to that.
Hornet! Margate! Lance is picking on me again!
*whine*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:31 PM

That heartless rat basset!

katy the mean old lady on March 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Three interviews with Palin: The good, the bad, and the ugly
posted at 4:54 pm on August 30, 2008 by Allahpundit
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None of them are actually bad or ugly, but even the hint of an unkind word directed at our heroine (heroin?) is enough to get righty readers to click, so there’s your bait.

First comes the fluff, from her and Maverick’s sitdown with People magazine. What are the odds that they’d choose a magazine available at every checkout counter in America as a diversion for grocery-shopping moms to introduce the ticket?
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/30/three-interviews-with-palin-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

canopfor on March 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM

That’s right. Done deal.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:53 PM

OK. I’ll take Romney at +8 for $1000, if he gets the nod. If he doesn’t get the nomination, bet’s off.

Are we agreed? If so, I’ll bookmark the post.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM

OK. I’ll take Romney at +8 for $1000, if he gets the nod. If he doesn’t get the nomination, bet’s off.

Are we agreed? If so, I’ll bookmark the post.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:56 PM

Agreed. Bookmark it.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:57 PM

I wonder where I fit in the polls? I’ve been a life long Democrat til not too long ago, not really conservative but practice what my grandmother taught us, don’t spend what you don’t have. That’s common sense.

Pollsters can blow it out their a**. no one listens to them anyway, so few are credible and the entire country knows it. Much like anyone is fool enough to believe anything the MSM spins except the desperate Dems in Washignton that wish reality away.

I would vote for a veneral disease infested camel over Pres. Incompetant Narcissist and so would every life long Dem. I know would too. This coming from a 27 year Democrat. So take the polls and spin for what it’s worth-junk in, junk out

Niteowl45 on March 23, 2011 at 11:59 PM

Agreed. Bookmark it.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Done.

Try not to get banhammered between now and then. I’ll do the same.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:00 AM

I am going to hear Rand Paul speak tomorrow in northern Kentucky. Nobody tries to stay in touch and work harder for voters than he does.

HellCat on March 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Done.

Try not to get banhammered between now and then. I’ll do the same.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:00 AM

LOL, I won’t.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Who else is there?

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Walker? christie?

unseen on March 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Who else is there?

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM

Walker? christie?

unseen on March 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM

I don’t see Palin getting the nomination in 2012. She may not even run. I think she gets it in 2016 if we’re still around. In 2012 the GOP gets hammered yet again. With Romney.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM

Walker? christie?

unseen on March 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM

Walker maybe. Christie is a joke. He isn’t a conservative or even against spending money. He just doesn’t have any so he is forced to cut.

sharrukin on March 24, 2011 at 12:04 AM

No. More. Senators.

OhioCoastie on March 24, 2011 at 12:05 AM

A centrist Republican wins over Obama because the conservatives won’t vote for Obama against anyone on fiscal issues alone. A fiscal and social conservative better be Reagan class in Charisma.

KW64 on March 24, 2011 at 12:06 AM

In 2012 the GOP gets hammered yet again. With Romney.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:03 AM

My hat’s off to Romney for sheer political gumption if he can figure out a way to get people to ignore the Romneycare albatross hanging around his neck. That’s going to be a trick.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:09 AM

A centrist Republican wins over Obama because the conservatives won’t vote for Obama against anyone on fiscal issues alone.

KW64 on March 24, 2011 at 12:06 AM

They can stay home and vote for Johnny Walker. Most so-called centrist candidates aren’t fiscal conservatives at all, nor are they social conservatives.

sharrukin on March 24, 2011 at 12:10 AM

No. More. Senators.

OhioCoastie on March 24, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Why not? Worked out well for the Dems last time.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:14 AM

My hat’s off to Romney for sheer political gumption if he can figure out a way to get people to ignore the Romneycare albatross hanging around his neck. That’s going to be a trick.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:09 AM

He can’t pull it off. He’d lose big, not quite Mondale-ish, but awfully close.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:15 AM

They can stay home and vote for Johnny Walker. Most so-called centrist candidates aren’t fiscal conservatives at all, nor are they social conservatives.

sharrukin on March 24, 2011 at 12:10 AM

They Could, but they won’t. They would vote for a social liberal but Fiscally responsible candidate like Giuliani before they would vote for Obama without doubt. They would not vote for a Rudy type in a primary however.

KW64 on March 24, 2011 at 12:16 AM

No. More. Senators.

OhioCoastie on March 24, 2011 at 12:05 AM

Why not? Worked out well for the Dems last time.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:14 AM

They operate under a different set of rules. Things are easier with the MSM on your side.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Why not? Worked out well for the Dems last time.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:14 AM

They operate under a different set of rules. Things are easier with the MSM on your side.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Not only that, but considering the odds, Dems have actually had about as much luck fielding senate candidates as Republicans have — over the life of our republic, anyhow.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:18 AM

A centrist Republican wins over Obama because the conservatives won’t vote for Obama against anyone on fiscal issues alone. A fiscal and social conservative better be Reagan class in Charisma.

KW64 on March 24, 2011 at 12:06 AM

Dem Lite is not going to win over a Dem. A centrist Republican will be McCain all over again. A lot of people will just stay home.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:19 AM

He can’t pull it off. He’d lose big, not quite Mondale-ish, but awfully close.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:15 AM

So what makes you so certain he’s going to be able to make it through the primaries?

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Palin 2012. Don’t let them talk you out of it. Don’t let them flash poll numbers in your face, like they did trying to squelch Reagan in 1980. Here are some numbers:

New Hampshire Republican Primary results, February 26, 1980:

Ronald Reagan (49.6%)
George H.W. Bush (22.7%)
Howard H. Baker (12.1%)
John B. Anderson (9.8%)
Philip M. Crane (1.8%)
John B. Connally (1.5%)

An ABC News-Harris Poll report from March 10, 1980:

Former President Gerald Ford is the first choice of Republican and independent voters to head the GOP ticket–even though he has not yet declared himself a candidate for the Republican nomination.

“Ford also leads President Carter among the general electorate.

“A special ABC News-Harris Survey shows that a total of 33 percent of all Republicans and independents prefer Ford, compared with 27 percent for Ronald Reagan, 15 percent for John Anderson, and 14 percent for George Bush. Other GOP candidates trail far behind. Among just Republicans, Ford is also ahead–with 36 percent, followed by Reagan at 32 percent, Bush at 12 percent, and Anderson at 10 percent.

When pitted against President Carter among a cross section of 1,498 likely voters, Ford runs ahead by a 54-44 percent margin. By contrast, among the same voters, Reagan trails Carter by 58-40 percent. Back in late November, at the start of the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter was ahead of Ford by 50-47 percent. Back then, Carter led Reagan by 53-44 percent. However, just a month ago, Carter led Reagan by a wider 64-32 percent, indicating some slippage in the President’s strength over the past 30 days.

These results bear out what Gerald Ford has claimed: that the polls would show him to be much more popular with the voters than Ronald Reagan. Significantly, he is ahead among just Republican voters, Republicans and independents, and in the contest with Carter he is running 14 points better than Reagan.

“The latest ABC News -Harris Survey, conducted by telephone nationwide among 1,498 voters, was conducted from March 5th through 8th.”

Emperor Norton on March 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM

He can’t pull it off. He’d lose big, not quite Mondale-ish, but awfully close.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:15 AM

Now that our money is down, I’m curious to hear your reasoning on that.

McCain only lost to him by 7, in a year that was absolutely horrible for Republicans (the worst I’ve seen since Watergate). The GOP brand is considerably better now than in ’08, and lots of people who thought Obama was a centrist now see him as a Leftist, and thus won’t vote for him (unless we put up someone they see as unacceptably right-wing or incompetent, or both). I think you will agree with all of that.

So, the only reason I can see is that you think Romney is a far inferior candidate to John McCain.

Am I missing something?

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM

They Could, but they won’t.

I think you might be surprised how many will stay home if they try running a Romney or a Daniels.

They would vote for a social liberal but Fiscally responsible candidate like Giuliani before they would vote for Obama without doubt.

KW64 on March 24, 2011 at 12:16 AM

Fiscally responsible liberals? There really aren’t any like that running. Rand Paul is about the closest to that I can think of. Most are pretend social conservatives like Huckabee and Gingrich.

sharrukin on March 24, 2011 at 12:22 AM

Dems have actually had about as much luck fielding senate candidates as Republicans have — over the life of our republic, anyhow.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:18 AM

They did it with Kennedy. They did it with Obama. Frankly, I can’t, from memory at least, say about the POTUS’s before Roosevelt. But I know no GOPer has done it since Roosevelt.

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Folks fear that Republicans will take away their safety nets. In a failing economy people will cling to whomever they feel will protect them from starving the best. We as a nation are becoming more polarized and our Conservative/Republican ranks will dwindle as economic opportunities dry up and we go on the dole.

As we Conservatives nitpick and argue amongst ourselves over this and that we don’t help matters any and will become increasingly divided. Just my take on things.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 24, 2011 at 12:24 AM

Any naturalized citizen over 35 can run, and if interested, should. The people will measure the candidates up and will vote. And I believe most Americans will support the non-Obama candidate for POTUS in 2012. It is really that simple. The man’s an ineffective lier and golfer in chief. I think the polls are very slanted. The people will see through the MSM BS. If none of this is true, say goodbye to the good old USA.

AZCON on March 24, 2011 at 12:25 AM

Rand seems okay, but since I can’t stand his old man or the zealots who promote him, I am wary of Rand. He needs to stay where he is, for now, and convince me he’s not a whack-job like Ron before I would consider supporting him.

JannyMae on March 24, 2011 at 12:26 AM

McCain only lost to him by 7, in a year that was absolutely horrible for Republicans (the worst I’ve seen since Watergate). The GOP brand is considerably better now than in ’08, and lots of people who thought Obama was a centrist now see him as a Leftist, and thus won’t vote for him (unless we put up someone they see as unacceptably right-wing or incompetent, or both). I think you will agree with all of that.

So, the only reason I can see is that you think Romney is a far inferior candidate to John McCain.

Am I missing something?

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM

You don’t live in the South do you?

Mitt can not win the South. Mitt can not compete in the midwest. Mitt will not win in the NE. Mitt might be able to compete in the Upper midwest.

Obama requires a fighter to go up against him. The reason people see Obama as a leftist is becaus eof people like Palin pointing it out day after day after day.

Mitt can not take the fight to Obama on healthcare in a socialist/capitalist fashion. Mitt can not make the case about debt since he left his state in more debt. Mitt will be hammered on his flip-flops over and over again. Mitt can not connect with mainstreet. He comes at problems from a wall street/Dc worldview.

His entire campaign will be I’m not as bad as Obama. People do not change horses because the othe ris prettier. they change horses when the other is going the opposite way.

the only way to defeat an incumbant is to show the people a different way. Mitt can not do that.

It will be McCain allover again everytime Mitt attacks Obama he will simply turn around and say well you did it too. It will make the race about racism. About bush.

Mitt is an umitagated disater that will destory the gop party to its core.

unseen on March 24, 2011 at 12:27 AM

So what makes you so certain he’s going to be able to make it through the primaries?

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:19 AM

There will be enough GOP voters buying into the “he’s our electable Superman” stuff.

McCain only lost to him by 7, in a year that was absolutely horrible for Republicans (the worst I’ve seen since Watergate). The GOP brand is considerably better now than in ’08, and lots of people who thought Obama was a centrist now see him as a Leftist, and thus won’t vote for him (unless we put up someone they see as unacceptably right-wing or incompetent, or both). I think you will agree with all of that.

McCain didn’t campaign aggressively against Obama. I don’t buy into the garbage that Obama was unbeatable. Not at all. Romney will not want to be called a racist, either, so he’ll go easy on Obama as well. Plus there’s the whole ObamaCare/RomneyCare thing.

So, the only reason I can see is that you think Romney is a far inferior candidate to John McCain.

Am I missing something?

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM

Did you miss who won the primaries in 2008?

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:27 AM

So, the only reason I can see is that you think Romney is a far inferior candidate to John McCain.

Am I missing something?

JohnGalt23 on March 24, 2011 at 12:20 AM

He’s talking about the general election, J.G. I don’t see a scenario where he can win the primaries, let alone the general election given how he performed in 2008, unless there’s something I’m missing here.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:28 AM

There will be enough GOP voters buying into the “he’s our electable Superman” stuff.

ddrintn on March 24, 2011 at 12:27 AM

I don’t know on what basis you assert that, but I do hope you’re wrong. I could have seen myself forgiving him for Romneycare, but not for doubling down on it after it became well-known that it involved federal monies.

gryphon202 on March 24, 2011 at 12:31 AM

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