Quotes of the day

posted at 10:37 pm on March 23, 2011 by Allahpundit

“President Obama would deliver a shellacking to a generic Republican candidate if 2012′s presidential election were held today, a new poll found Wednesday.

“Forty-seven percent of registered voters said they would choose to reelect Obama, compared to 35 percent who would prefer an unnamed Republican candidate, while 16 percent were undecided, a Pew Research Center poll found.

“That puts Obama at basically the same position as President George W. Bush at a similar point in his presidency, and a stronger standing than President Clinton held in March of 1995.”

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“Only a few months into his political career, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is considering a presidential bid.

“‘Rand would not run if his dad’s running,’ said Jesse Benton, political director for Paul’s father, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). ‘But if his dad doesn’t run and he fails to see a viable candidate or candidates in the Republican field, that are serious about debt spending and the budget crisis facing our country, then he will be very tempted to weigh his options.’

“He’s been visiting the key primary states of Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire, giving speeches and meeting with local Republican leaders — a largely under the radar effort because, until now, no one thought the newly elected senator would seriously consider the race.”

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“While it’s hard to envision Paul actually winning the GOP nod, improving on his father’s performance in the 2008 primaries seems entirely possible. Ron Paul finished fifth in Iowa with 9 percent and fifth in New Hampshire with 8 percent, then became a media afterthought. Given that he began the campaign with no money, no name recognition and no expectations, this represented a remarkable showing; he ended up beating Rudy Giuliani — the early GOP front-runner — in nearly every state in which they both competed. But it was also something of a disappointment, given the tens of millions of dollars Paul was able to raise and the free media he attracted. The New Hampshire GOP electorate, with its fierce libertarian bent, seemed a particularly promising audience for his message, and his campaign had hoped to break through with a much stronger performance there.

“Rand Paul could potentially deliver such a performance. In a crowded field likely to underwhelm the GOP base, it’s not hard to imagine Paul — with his brash style and message of absolute ideological purity — standing out in debates and winning over more Republican voters than his father, who still struggles with basic television skills. The best-case scenario for Paul would probably be replicating what Pat Buchanan achieved in 1996: a surprisingly strong showing in Iowa (he nabbed 23 percent, good for second place), followed by a startling win (with just 29 percent of the vote) in New Hampshire — at which point a panicked GOP establishment rallied around the strongest non-Buchanan candidate (Bob Dole) and denied him the nomination.”

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“During a Q-and-A session, he was asked about his January comments on CNN that he’d be tempted to run if Palin were a candidate. Giuliani called that remark ‘rash.’ But he said his fears of the GOP choosing a nominee who can’t win a general election might prompt him to run.

“‘If all we are faced with are candidates that are too far right so that they can’t win the general election, then that’s when I’d reconsider doing it,’ Giuliani said.

“‘Do not underestimate Barack Obama. He is a very ineffective president but a very effective politician,’ Giuliani said. Obama can win a second term ‘if we put up a candidate that he can isolate as a right-wing candidate, too far-right.’

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“Part of Romney’s popularity among Tea Partyers is simply a product of the fact that he’s well liked among all Republicans; 21% in this survey say they’d like him to be the candidate. It’s early enough that all polling should be taken pretty lightly and Romney is certainly benefiting from high name recognition across the board. But it’s notable that he actually performs a bit better among self-identified Tea Party members than with the party overall. There are a few explanations for this. Romney does especially well with older and wealthier Republicans, two characteristics polling suggests is common in the Tea Party. Related to affluence, Tea Partyers are also on average better educated, and they may be identifying with Romney as an Ivy Leaguer.”

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“President Obama would deliver a shellacking to a generic Republican candidate if 2012′s presidential election were held today, a new poll found Wednesday.

Lemme guess: PPP/D.Kos

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 10:41 PM

“… a new poll found Wednesday.”

Yep…

… Waiting for the polls to tell me how to vote!

/

Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Chris Cillizza day…?

d1carter on March 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Yawn! More ABP candidates. Now they are recyling old
ABP candidates from months ago. Rand Paul adding himself
to the mix? OMG…we need an ex governor at the very least.
No senators who don’t do anything except talk to lobbyists,
become lobbyists when out of office and write stupid laws.

I wonder who else the media and the RNC will trot out next.

Amjean on March 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM

Palin had a strong well received speech in Florida tonight.

Palin had a strong interview with Greta tonight.

Hopefully Hot Air will post the video or transcripts when
they become available.

The trolls and Palin bashers need to be fed!

Amjean on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

He’d be great in getting our fiscal house in order. Except for the uncivil war it’d cause.

Anyone notice all then nice people in Madison, WI, throwing a temper tantrum over a rather mild requirement that they start contributing something for their own health care and retirement?

Think what would happen if all those alpha named departments were laid off all at once; e.g. the EPA, the DOL, the DOE, etc. etc.

We’re between a rock and a hard place.

Any generals out there wanting a job as president?

That may very well be what we eventually have.

BowHuntingTexas on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Ya know, I had some misgivings about Rand Paul before the election. It was all about even being associated with people like Alex Jones..and he was….don’t start bellowing. If he’s the real deal, I’m all behind him 100%.

Is he ready to be the POTUS?? Probably not. But compared to the a$$clown that has the job now…no problem.

BigWyo on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

RAND PAUL…..

…..no way he wins the Nomination.

….he can however help to nominate a RINO (deja vu 08)

…..no way he wins a General election.

…..4 more years of the Wrecking Ball.

PappyD61 on March 23, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Lemme guess: PPP/D.Kos

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 10:41 PM

close PEW a soros funded org.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Think what would happen if all those alpha named departments were laid off all at once; e.g. the EPA, the DOL, the DOE, etc. etc.

BowHuntingTexas on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Warms my heart, it does.

And if the Left wants to take it to the streets…, well, as Mick would say: “The time is right for palace rEVOLuti0n”.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Who does Rand think he is, the former Junior Senator from Illinois???

/

Gohawgs on March 23, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Amjean on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

She wa sgood on Greta? any big news coming from it?

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:53 PM

close PEW a soros funded org.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Figgers.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 10:54 PM

That poll just means that we can not nominate a generic Republican candidate, like the RNC would foist upon us.

RUN SARAH, RUN.

Slowburn on March 23, 2011 at 10:54 PM

You know I lke rand Paul he has been very bold in the Senate so far. I’m concerned about his lack of experience. He didn’t handle the tough interview with MadDow well. I don’t know if he can win over liberals and mushy moderate voters….

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:54 PM

By the way, I was serious the other day when I suggested that I’d rather have Rebecca Black (with Conservative advisers) in the Oval Office right now instead of what we have now.

……IT’S THAT FREAKING BAD.

PappyD61 on March 23, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Palin 2012. Accept no substitutes.

Emperor Norton on March 23, 2011 at 10:56 PM

“If all we are faced with are candidates that are too far right so that they can’t win the general election, then that’s when I’d reconsider doing it,” Giuliani said.

How about too far left Rudy? Will you play spoiler then? Who defines “too far right”?

DeathB4Tyranny on March 23, 2011 at 10:56 PM

I think I wouldn’t mind seeing Rand Paul as a VP for Palin. If he can’t win this time then perhaps acting as VP would allow him to be a potential presidential candidate later and avoid the situation we saw with H. W. Bush.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Related to affluence, Tea Partyers are also on average better educated, and they may be identifying with Romney as an Ivy Leaguer.

Uhhhhhh…wait a second…I thought tea partiers were unedumakayted hicks who like NASCAR…it’s hard to keep up.

But yeah, Romney’s going to be the nominee and is going to get his ass handed to him.

The GOP has its plans already worked out. Very clever ones, too. The Republicans will do what they always do when they’re up against it: grab an empty suit and run around shaking it in people’s faces while shouting, “Here’s the man!” By 2012, after his policies really hit home, as gas and home fuel prices triple and quadruple, as medical rationing begins, as the renewed Axis of Evil runs wild across Eurasia, Obama will be ready to drop. At that point he could be defeated by a ticket consisting of Charley Manson and Jojo the Dogface Boy. But the GOP will blow it all the same. Exactly as the party did in ’96, following the same script to the letter. They will, to coin a phrase, Mitt it up.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 10:57 PM

“America faces real threats, and to face these threats we need unapologetic leadership,(People say) there’s a lack of leadership, but that’s nothing another election can’t turn around. My faith is not in big government. It’s in the people. And the people will turn it around.”
-Gov Palin 3/23/2011

God please run.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Do not let the LSM pick our candidate… They gave us McCain last time…

Khun Joe on March 23, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Is the Tea Party sponsoring any debates? I think they should hold some early debates so when Romney doesn’t show up they won’t have any illusions about him anymore.

Buddahpundit on March 23, 2011 at 10:58 PM

He didn’t handle the tough interview with MadDow well.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Of all people, I would think you would be the first to concede that one is allowed to make rookie mistakes.

That being said, the concern I have of nominating either Paul is the same I have with nominating Palin: They all have the potential of getting beaten so badly that it putsGOP congressional majorities at risk.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM

“Politicians are patting themselves on the back for cutting $6 billion when borrowing $400 billion to keep the country afloat,” she said. “We’re not heading toward the iceberg, we’ve hit the iceberg.”

-Palin

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Yep…

… Waiting for the polls to tell me how to vote!

/

Seven Percent Solution on March 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM

You can have your polls. I’ll wait for the trolls.

/extremesnark

gryphon202 on March 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM

What is Huffington doing, gassing?

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Who defines “too far right”?

DeathB4Tyranny on March 23, 2011 at 10:56 PM

the American people have a funny way of doing that.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

For the April Presidential survey, I’ll be adding Rand Paul and, as promised, removing Chris Christie and Paul Ryan, due to their stated decisions not to run.

I welcome your thoughts. Results should be very interesting.

Patrick Ishmael on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Do not let the LSM pick our candidate… They gave us McCain last time…

Khun Joe on March 23, 2011 at 10:58 PM

It’s going to happen at least one more time, sorry.

That being said, the concern I have of nominating either Paul is the same I have with nominating Palin: They all have the potential of getting beaten so badly that it putsGOP congressional majorities at risk.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Uh-huh. And Mitt’s victory is going to be so stunning that it will add at least 50 more GOP seats to the House and give the GOP the majority in the Senate. Riiiight. LOL

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:01 PM

Oh please oh please oh please!!!! He’s serious about deficit reduction (500 billion + elimination of entire agencies).

2012 is the right time, Rand. Your Dad is too old (and a little too strange), and you can bridge the libertarian conservative divide.

If a GOP establishment figure wins in 2012, you won’t have a chance again until 2020, and by then it may be too late. Dallas Fed Pres. Fisher even says the US is nearly insolvent.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:01 PM

I’ve never heard of Mr. Generic.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:02 PM

That being said, the concern I have of nominating either Paul is the same I have with nominating Palin: They all have the potential of getting beaten so badly that it putsGOP congressional majorities at risk.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 10:59 PM

my concern is the same if we nominate Mitt. A large part of the house seats won in 2010 came from the South. If mit tis at the head of the tiocket the conservatives set home, the black population comes out in force and all the gains the gop made in the South in 2010 are wiped away. Mitt will make the entire south into a battleground area. the resources will pour into the South by the DNC. they will hammer Mitt and the voters will stay home.

We lose the house if Mitt is the nominee. He has shown his inability to get GOPers elected in the NE, Ca, and Utah.

the only chance of keeping the house is to nominate a conservative. I’ll take rand Paul over Mitt anyday of the week.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:02 PM

Who defines “too far right”?

DeathB4Tyranny on March 23, 2011 at 10:56 PM

the American people have a funny way of doing that.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Really? So Obama wasn’t “too far left”, he was just right.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM

who still wants the huckster…i just don’t get it…

and who are these bloody 47% who think dear leader will get any better with another 4 yrs under his belt

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM

I welcome your thoughts. Results should be very interesting.

Patrick Ishmael on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

Any chance you could do a question without Huck in it? I would ber curious how his being in or out impacts the results…

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:04 PM

“He’s been visiting the key primary states of Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire, giving speeches and meeting…

It’s good to see the newest, great Senator from Kentucky doing the people of Kentucky’s business just two months into his new term in Iowa, South Carolina and New Hampshire.

catmman on March 23, 2011 at 11:04 PM

I think I wouldn’t mind seeing Rand Paul as a VP for Palin. If he can’t win this time then perhaps acting as VP would allow him to be a potential presidential candidate later and avoid the situation we saw with H. W. Bush.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 10:57 PM

I’ll tell you; I’d pull the lever for Palin if he were her VP. But I don’t think she’d pick him. She’d want a squish to ‘balance’ the perception that she’s too far right. So we would get another GHWB.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Do not let the LSM pick our candidate… They gave us McCain last time…

Khun Joe on March 23, 2011 at 10:58 PM

amen KJ

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:05 PM

Patrick Ishmael on March 23, 2011 at 11:00 PM

looking forward to it

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:06 PM

How many Republican politicians can get away with racist and crackpot newsletters by the MSM? Ron Paul

well, I could go on and on with this…but there is a reason the MSM does this and Salon is trying to promote a Paul candidacy as a legit option, rather son or father.

the only reason Ron Paul didn’t get totally ran out of the party in 2008 is because the MSM refused to give him a small small fraction of the Palin treatment(for obvious reasons) when it would’ve been so so easy.

Paul would’ve got the David Duke treatment in 2008 had he been relevant and the MSM didn’t want him to destroy the GOP from within.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Bonita Springs resident Terry Major said she thought the event was interesting, particularly as a way to compare Palin to her portrayal in the media. Major said she enjoyed the lecture and was pleased to see the real Palin.

I was impressed,” she said.

And thus the push to STOP PALIN by the elites.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:07 PM

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:04 PM

2nd that

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:07 PM

I’ll tell you; I’d pull the lever for Palin if he were her VP. But I don’t think she’d pick him. She’d want a squish to ‘balance’ the perception that she’s too far right. So we would get another GHWB.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:05 PM

But he has that libertarian squish factor on social issues right now and she endorsed him. I think it would be a good choice as would Paul Ryan.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:06 PM

yawn. With Rand, we won’t have to listen to this b.s. anymore. You can’t use his father’s eccentricities against him.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:05 PM

maybe for some reason I keep seeing TPAw has her pick. the uppermidwest will be the battleground if Palin is the nominee. I think she shores up that one. would be nice if she went for Walker

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

I’ve never heard of Mr. Generic.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:02 PM

He’s forming an exploratory committee and Rich Lowry, Krauthammer, Rove and Will are crazy about the guy, if only those rubes will fall in line.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:09 PM

“America faces real threats, and to face these threats we need unapologetic leadership,(People say) there’s a lack of leadership, but that’s nothing another election can’t turn around. My faith is not in big government. It’s in the people. And the people will turn it around.”
-Gov Palin 3/23/2011
God please run.
unseen on March 23, 2011 at 10:57 PM

only person who solidly explains our predicaments and cures on a regular basis

on an off note, a buddy of mine who works audio is down at a ritz Carlton in Florida and called to tell me SP herself was there and standing next to her

he added that she is smoking!

Nice other perk for the person who can lead this country well

Sonosam on March 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM

2012 is the right time, Rand. Your Dad is too old (and a little too strange), and you can bridge the libertarian conservative divide.

no he can’t, he’d have to take enough actual positions that would either ruin him with conservatives or libertarians. Aside from that he has zero accomplishments, is too liberal in many ways to win a primary with Conservatives and the GOP doesn’t nominate rookies with zero experience to run as POTUS.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM

he added that she is smoking!

Sonosam on March 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM

I hope you don’t mean Marlboros. ;)

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM

Amjean on March 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM

I’m certain that Gov.Palin did wonderful of Greta. I was at choir practice so I didn’t see it.
that said-people are allowed to have someone besides Gov.Palin as their first choice for 2012-and that doesn’t make them a hater or a troll…as long as they argue fairly.
My top 3(right now) in order are: T-Paw, Cain, and Palin.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM

maybe for some reason I keep seeing TPAw has her pick.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Shhh! You’ll wake up Antwerp!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

And Mitt’s victory is going to be so stunning that it will add at least 50 more GOP seats to the House and give the GOP the majority in the Senate. Riiiight. LOL

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:01 PM

apparently you see no middle ground between triumphant victory and devastating loss. Believe me, there is plenty, and it is on that ground where the real power lies.

There is at least a decent chance that Barack Obama wins reelection, regardless of who we nominate. That was the case in 1996 with Clinton. Nobody in the race was going to beat him. So, Dole lost. But we kept most of the House seats, and in fact gained ground in the Senate. Sure, it sucked not taking back the WH. But it felt a helluva lot better than it would have if we had given back Congress.

If Obama wins by 5 points, we hold the House, and have a good chance of taking the Senate. If he wins by 15 points, we probably give the whole show back.

And as a big-time Paul supporter, I’ll be honest with you that we risk that type of beating if we nominate him. The same goes for Palin.

That’s not to say it will happen; just that it could.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The crooks at Pew are the progs that helped push through campaign finance reform through faked research and bogus polls. They worked with Carnegie, NPR and other lefty prog organizations, and Johnny Mac fell for it hook line and sinker.

Pew is not to be trusted. When you hear the name, think of Pepe Le Pew.

slickwillie2001 on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

TPaw has a great shot at winning nomination after all is said and done. Unknown, good budget record in Minn. and taking all the right positions heading into primaries, but no baggage

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:13 PM

There is at least a decent chance that Barack Obama wins reelection, regardless of who we nominate.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

Uh, let me tell you right now. Romney will get shellacked, and the GOP majority in the House will be in jeopardy.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

With Rand, we won’t have to listen to this b.s. anymore.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

are you saying you actually listen to jp’s b.s.???

Three words: Scroll the Troll.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Uh, let me tell you right now. Romney will get shellacked, and the GOP majority in the House will be in jeopardy.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

The polls disagree with you.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

He’s forming an exploratory committee and Rich Lowry, Krauthammer, Rove and Will are crazy about the guy, if only those rubes will fall in line.
ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:09 PM

McCain’s scowl, Romney’s hair, Newt’s goofy grin, and Scott Brown’s physique all rolled into one.

What? Their stance on issues important to conservatives? Shut yo’ mouth, we need to attract the all-important noodle voters.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM

sarah did well on greta tonight…

cmsinaz on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

maybe for some reason I keep seeing TPAw has her pick.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:08 PM

Shhh! You’ll wake up Antwerp!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

FLINK!
*Dang slippery laptop*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Sonosam on March 23, 2011 at 11:10 PM

He say how well she did tonighT? cjhange any views? make any converts?

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

The polls disagree with you.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

Yeah and Reagan lost in 1980. Or so sayeth the polls.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

The polls disagree with you.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

the polls said Reagan couldn’t win, the polls said Kerry beat Bush, the polls said Dewey beat truman. Basing you life on polls is tilting at windmills.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Really? So Obama wasn’t “too far left”, he was just right.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:03 PM

Hate to be theone to inform you of what should be rather obvious electoral realities…

… but victory is, in fact, its own justification.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Uh, let me tell you right now. Romney will get shellacked, and the GOP majority in the House will be in jeopardy.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

The polls disagree with you.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

LOL, I don’t care what the polls say now. I’m frankly kind of tired of polls, which are all over the place. You can bet whatever you like that if Romney is the nominee, he loses by at least 8-10 points, and may lose at least couple of pretty solidly red southern states.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

are you saying you actually listen to jp’s b.s.???

Three words: Scroll the Troll.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

umm, why don’t you trolls look into Hotairs archives at the old Ron Paul postings so we can see that in fact you Paultards are the trolls

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

=)

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Hate to be theone to inform you of what should be rather obvious electoral realities…

… but victory is, in fact, its own justification.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

So you think Obama pretty much typifies the “center” in American politics.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Basing you life on polls is tilting at windmills.

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

And ignoring the polls is inviting an electoral ass-kicking.

Don’t believe me? Ask those who carried Goldwater over the finish line in SFO.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:18 PM

The Elites watched Palin destroy Biden when she was green. She’s been honing her skills, and their wetting their pants.

wheelgun on March 23, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Shhh! You’ll wake up Antwerp!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

FLINK!
*Dang slippery laptop*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

sorry…..

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

So you think Obama pretty much typifies the “center” in American politics.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:18 PM

No.

I think the American people thought that in late Oct and early Nov 2008.

And all your whining won’t change that.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

I’m with twerp. Although Palin would be my 1st choice I’m not willing to write off Cain or T-Paw. I am tired of being told by the media and polls who I should pick though. And frankly the idea of Romney makes me ill. I am not willing to settle for another McCain “this is the best we have”. Which is exactly what the LSM wants so O will win.

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

Palin 2012 = Obama 2013

Count it.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Anyone not pay the least bit of attention to what happened to Sarah Palin after she was nominated to run for VP and was put through the Ringer by the MSM and Dems????

Say theoretically Ron Paul made it through the political process where he actually got campaigned against instead of ignored. He would absolutely get trashed beyond recognition because of all of his lunatic positions and things on the record like the “Ron Paul Newsletters”

In the real world of American Presidential Politics, just claiming you had a “Ghost Writer” with no proof for Racist and Crackpot Conspiracy theory newsletters isn’t going to cut it.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Hate to be theone to inform you of what should be rather obvious electoral realities…

… but victory is, in fact, its own justification.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

No it isn’t.

Victory means nothing unless you accomplish something. If victory is all you care about then join team Obama because… as you say they are likely to win.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

I’m willing to give everyone a shot, the more the merrier, Rand Paul too. But if he flakes out like his old man while answering about issues other than the national debt, I’ll stay home and add another layer of sandbags to the bunker on election day instead of voting.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:21 PM

You can bet whatever you like that if Romney is the nominee, he loses by at least 8-10 points, and may lose at least couple of pretty solidly red southern states.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:17 PM

Really? Will you cover my action on that?

Because I’ve got a big wad that says Romney comes within 8. If he gets the nod.

So, what do you say? Put your money where your mouth is?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:21 PM

I’m with twerp. Although Palin would be my 1st choice

hboulware on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

I assure you, you ain’t with Antwerp.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Its Rand Paul not Ron Paul.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM

These polls are BS

obama loses to most anyone but the one person who cannot take his place is SP

she is garlic to the commie vampires

more like a wooden stake and mallet

Sonosam on March 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM

No.

I think the American people thought that in late Oct and early Nov 2008.

And all your whining won’t change that.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

The people apparently still think that, since Obama is hovering near the 50% range in approval. So you think Obama is the “center”? And where does that put Ron Paul? Too far right? I’m not the one whining.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:14 PM

heh. but you’re harshing my mellow with your pragmatism…

In the real world of American Presidential Politics, just claiming you had a “Ghost Writer” with no proof for Racist and Crackpot Conspiracy theory newsletters isn’t going to cut it.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

I know its purposeful, but try to *focus*. Rand =/= Ron, Ron =/= Rand. Its really that simple.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:23 PM

Shhh! You’ll wake up Antwerp!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:12 PM

FLINK!
*Dang slippery laptop*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM

sorry…..

unseen on March 23, 2011 at 11:19 PM

I can REALLY get him started.
Lance: yesterday I threatened to turn Sheldon into a mini-throw-rug….or would he look better as mittens?
*ducks*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

Really? Will you cover my action on that?

Because I’ve got a big wad that says Romney comes within 8. If he gets the nod.

So, what do you say? Put your money where your mouth is?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Sure thing. I’ll be around. I say he loses by at least 8-10 points. In fact, I will predict that polls in October 2012 have him 15 points down.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

Lance: yesterday I threatened to turn Sheldon into a mini-throw-rug….

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

You leave that poor cat alone!

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

No it isn’t.

Victory means nothing unless you accomplish something.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Congress is where the real power is, and therefore where the real accomplishments are to be had.

And yes, victory is all that matters. You show me a candidate who wears their conservatism on their sleeve and loses, and do you know what I’ll show you? I’ll show you a loser.

And I’m OK with that… as long as they don’t drag the party down with them.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

So Ariana Huffingpuff appeared in the video above an ad for Trojan condoms.

Poor target marketing by Google Adsense.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:26 PM

Palin Romney 2012 = Obama 2013

Count it.

hottieinthehouse on March 23, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Romney’s unelectable.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:26 PM

You show me a candidate who wears their conservatism on their sleeve and loses…

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

Not very many do.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Its Rand Paul not Ron Paul.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM

the article mentions either running.

Rand isn’t in the clear yet either, if he were to run for POTUS he’ll have to decide whether to take non traditional Conservative positions and be anarchist/libertarian like his father and not have a prayer at winning OR take positions similar to what he campaigned for in Ky. GOP Primary.

jp on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

You show me a candidate who wears their conservatism on their sleeve and loses, and do you know what I’ll show you? I’ll show you a loser.

And I’m OK with that… as long as they don’t drag the party down with them.

Yes, but you’ll deny the “true” conservatives their moment to fist pump at the thought of a “moral” victory after they lose.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Sure thing. I’ll be around. I say he loses by at least 8-10 points. In fact, I will predict that polls in October 2012 have him 15 points down.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

Oh, I’d like to lock this in now. How much will you cover… once again, contingent on Romney getting the nod?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM

I’ll join you in that bet. I can’t see Mitt taking the South. Ain’t gonna happen in the primary. If he wins the nom, the Dem-GOP enthusiasm gap in the south will be the killer.

Firefly_76 on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

I assure you, you ain’t with Antwerp.

Lanceman on March 23, 2011 at 11:22 PM

That does it.
Come Sunday, I’m posting Barry Manilow and Neil Diamond videos on your FB wall.
‘Oh Mandy…’

annoyinglittletwerp on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Congress is where the real power is, and therefore where the real accomplishments are to be had.

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:25 PM

And would you show me these accomplishments when the GOP squishies had power? From what I can tell they were wallowing in the public trough with as much gusto as the Democrats were.

sharrukin on March 23, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Sure thing. I’ll be around. I say he loses by at least 8-10 points. In fact, I will predict that polls in October 2012 have him 15 points down.

Palin would be in worse shape.

rickyricardo on March 23, 2011 at 11:28 PM

Oh, I’d like to lock this in now. How much will you cover… once again, contingent on Romney getting the nod?

JohnGalt23 on March 23, 2011 at 11:27 PM

Whatever you like. It’s a bet I will not lose. I can lay whatever you’re worth.

ddrintn on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Romney will get buried for RomneyCare, that corpse will never stay buried.

Bishop on March 23, 2011 at 11:29 PM

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