This is Your World without Traditional US Leadership

posted at 4:00 pm on March 19, 2011 by J.E. Dyer

The essential formlessness of the late-Western left’s ideas is being modeled in 3-D in the Libya crisis right now.  Events in Libya are not understood in any detail, and the world’s leading nations can’t decide what to do.  France and Britain are certain that there should be an intervention; Germany is opposed to the idea; Russia and China have spoken against it; the US is looking at all options, a process that has now been underway for three weeks.

In Libya, meanwhile, the reporting that does come out is grim for the rebels. Qaddafi’s forces have retaken the rebel-held coastal enclaves as far east as Ajdabiyah (see the map here) and are closing in on the major port city of Benghazi.  As a center of infrastructure, Benghazi is the key to cornering the rebels: if Qaddafi can take it and thoroughly rid it of organized rebel guerrillas, the rebels will be driven into an untenable position between Benghazi and the eastern border with Egypt.  They can’t increase their viability from this position, at least not without outside help; they can only hold out for some period of time.

The rebels must make Qaddafi fight hard for Benghazi.  If his victory there is Pyrrhic enough, that would buy the remaining rebels some time to regroup.  It would also lay Benghazi waste.

Strictly from the standpoint of material factors, the rebels’ situation is not by any means hopeless.  They can’t retake the lost coastal territory by themselves, but they could maneuver to prejudice Qaddafi’s position with the international community.  Their best option would be occupying the oil and gas fields of the Sirte basin, in Libya’s vast interior.  Holding most of Libya’s oil resources, along with the coastal cities and commercial facilities of Darna and Tobruk, they would be in a position to bargain seriously for support from foreign governments.  The process of organizing to pursue this opportunity would exert a beneficial effect on their own coherence.

But we hear no one talking in these terms because the perspective fostered in the modern Western mind is that of the pre-adolescent.  The world’s happenings are an incoherent mishmash of impressions and inexplicable eruptions, about which the most important things are who is at fault, who might be considered at fault, and how everyone feels about us as it all unfolds.  The leaders of the Western world have never seemed so much like a classroom of 4th-graders, making garbled arguments to each other after 15 minutes spent perusing their Weekly Readers.

The White House asserts that it is considering “all the implications and ramifications.”  But there is no way to think systematically about this situation without the overlay of coherent leadership in some form.  Obama hasn’t even stated a US national interest or objective for Libya.  Do we support the rebels?  If we don’t know what their character is, there’s only one way to find out.  The reason the White House’s evaluation of implications and ramifications is never-ending is that it won’t be complete without some kind of policy commitment from … the White House.

There hasn’t been one, and that’s the problem.  If the question now were to pick a course of action, that would be one thing – but Team Obama is still stuck back at the starting line.  It doesn’t even know what it wants. It doesn’t have any positive vision for this situation.  It wants fewer people to be killed, and it wishes Qaddafi weren’t hanging on against the desires of his people.  But those aren’t policy positions, they are emotional reactions.

It takes policy and method to drive back a brutal dictator and prevent people from being killed.  It can’t be done any other way.  If we want Qaddafi to be gone, it’s necessary to take concrete steps to drive him out.  If Obama isn’t willing to do that, then it doesn’t matter what he says.

Others are acting, according to their interests.  Italy’s oil and gas giant Eni has already asked the EU to lift its sanctions on Libya.  Eni’s contacts are with the Qaddafi government and the management of Libya’s National Oil Company (NOC).

It is not clear how much of the reporting about Al Qaeda activity in Libya is valid – Qaddafi is attributing rebel acts to Al Qaeda right and left – but there has long been an Al Qaeda affiliate in Libya, and it is keeping a high profile among the rebel groups.

Britain and France formally asked the UN Security Council for a no-fly zone resolution on Tuesday evening.  The Arab League endorsed a no-fly zone last week.

Belarus has reportedly sent arms to Qaddafi.  Fighters from Mali, Niger, and Darfur have come to his aid.  Foreign news agencies suggest Egyptian special forces are in Libya supporting the rebels.

The world is not merely standing by right now, but it has been in something of a holding pattern.  The outcome in Libya can go one of two ways:  Qaddafi gains momentum and starts reestablishing his commercial ties with Europe, or the rebels keep him mired in a fight that makes him less attractive to foreign parties.  In the latter case, there will only be an increase in foreign involvement in Libya.

The world has been waiting for the US to take the lead, but it’s obvious we aren’t going to.  I think almost everyone in America other than Obama and his Amen chorus in the MSM realizes that.  The proper framing of the issue, at this point, is that we have not taken the lead, and the moment to prove that we would, could, or should has passed.

J.E. Dyer blogs at The Green Room, Commentary’s “contentions” and as The Optimistic Conservative.  She writes a weekly column for Patheos.

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This is Your World without Traditional US Leadership

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MikeA on March 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM

America’s allies see only passivity or contradiction in Washington’s response. Mr Obama seems to be cheering on the revolutions which remove long-time allies, such as President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, while sitting on his hands when it comes down to ridding Libya of Col Qaddafi, a ruthless old enemy of the US and a lingering embarrassment to the Arab world.

In Europe, this passivity is greeted in different ways. In Britain, the prime minister, David Cameron, is said to be exasperated at US indecisiveness, with insiders describing the diplomatic process with Washington as like pushing on a piece of string. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy has seized the opportunity to take the lead in recognising the Libyan rebels, to the consternation of Germany.

Arab allies are confused as to whether they can rely on Washington for support. It seems like Washington is no longer the status quo power, but rather a go-with-the-flow power. It lets events take their course.

The first to realise US weakness in the Middle East were the Israelis. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was able to defy Mr Obama’s clearly expressed demands to stop settlement building. Far from being punished, his obstinacy was rewarded with offers of more F-35 advanced stealth fighters. The message has been heard far and wide: in foreign policy Mr Obama is not an effective politician who can match means to ends.

World, you got what you wanted. Suffer, deeply.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM

I heard the great and powerful Obama is about to speak….

sandee on March 19, 2011 at 4:07 PM

The rest of the world’s despots are watching…-

RalphyBoy on March 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Obama’s father has been identified.

Trying to strike a personal note, Gaddafi prefaced his letter saying, “To our son, his excellency, Mr Barack Hussein Obama. I have said to you before, that even if Libya and the United States of America enter into a war, god forbid, you will always remain a son. Your picture will not be changed.”

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 4:08 PM

Let me be clear: I think now that Irving is back in the lineup, Duke should be given some consideration to replace Kansas.

a capella on March 19, 2011 at 4:11 PM

Gaddafi has been around since Reagan was prez, so you can hardly wag your finger at Obama. I dislike Obama’s policies as much as the next freedom-loving guy, but I wonder how much better Bush, Bush, Clinton and Reagan would have handled it.

Gaddafi sucks. The rebels are probably militant Muslims, so they suck too. The whole region sucks.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM

I just posted this in the other Libya thread, and it belongs more appropriately here, I think. Should have known HA is always extremely topical:

OK, I’m missing something here:
CHECK: US’s position earlier today: supported the “International Coalition”, but said it wouldn’t participate militarily.

CHECK: France, FRANCE, God in Heaven, yes, that France, is taking the lead in the bombing…and oops, the results were predictable…

Now, I hear Obama say, “We must be clear” and we will participate, but not with troops on the ground…

Talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth…could we look ANY weaker, or am I missing something??? Granted, military strategy is hardly a strong suit of mine…

Chewy the Lab on March 19, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Chewy the Lab on March 19, 2011 at 4:17 PM

And some of you clowns wonder why I miss W.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM

French press is giving some good updates on the strikes in Libya today. I’m adding updates to my latest Green Room post (“France’s Role in History”) as they come in.

Jennifer Griffin had a good update at Fox about 15 min ago, but the weird silence and lack of info in US media seems like a bad sign. Hoping they catch up soon.

J.E. Dyer on March 19, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Hey you forgot the part where you chastise all the past administrations who did sweet f all to get rid of Ghadaffififii with “policy and method”. We’ll all just wait here while you add it to your article. Thanks.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Hey you forgot the part where you chastise all the past administrations who did sweet f all to get rid of Ghadaffififii with “policy and method”. We’ll all just wait here while you add it to your article. Thanks.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:21 PM

I agree. As a matter of fact, I remember Bush Sr. leaving some Iraqi rebels out to dry. Mind you, he’s much better than the empty suit in the White House now, but I think when criticizing him, you should also honestly mention if the folks you do like handled the situation better, worse or the same.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 19, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Well he’s finally done it . . . ceded to France. Doesn’t it make you proud?

rplat on March 19, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Yes, Drywall, we all know how self-important you are.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:27 PM

And some of you clowns wonder why I miss W.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM

We get it; you yearn for simplicity. Simple thinking led you to believe that invading Iraq would be easy and was morally justified. That you were proven 100% wrong has not stopped you from yearning for that same simplicity. It’s a shame you vote.

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:30 PM

And some of you clowns wonder why I miss W.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM

True, the white wash was so much stronger during those eight years of brilliant non stop victories.

BL@KBIRD on March 19, 2011 at 4:30 PM

Well he’s finally done it . . . ceded to France. Doesn’t it make you proud?

rplat on March 19, 2011 at 4:26 PM

Why shouldn’t it. They’re card carrying members of “the west”, and this happens to be going on in their backyard. If anything, this will help Europe re-develop the stomach to fight. Are you so insecure that you need the US to play white knight in EVERY crisis?

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Advice to Kha-daffy: duck!

profitsbeard on March 19, 2011 at 4:34 PM

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:30 PM

You know, Ernesto, I think that just about everyone here that’s not a troll would probably agree that it is you who are the simplistic one. I understand your inflated sense of self-importance like anyone else able to see past their own race, socio-economic status or class.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:35 PM

And some of you clowns wonder why I miss W.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM
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ha ha ha that explains a lot

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:38 PM

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:30 PM

For someone with no real clue what real life is about, you sure have all the answers.

TXMomof3 on March 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM

ha ha ha that explains a lot

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:38 PM

So does a liberal Canadian fool on a conservative blog.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM

So does a liberal Canadian fool on a conservative blog.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM
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Tell us where you have your Bush photos hung up.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Regarding France taking the lead in the crisis, including firing the first shots at Libyan forces.

Why shouldn’t it. They’re card carrying members of “the west”, and this happens to be going on in their backyard. If anything, this will help Europe re-develop the stomach to fight. Are you so insecure that you need the US to play white knight in EVERY crisis?

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:32 PM

Well, what worries me is the great military history of France. After all, they would have lost WW I if not for the British. They did lose World War II. They like us lost in Viet-Nam. In the Twentieth Century, France managed one military victory. They sunk the Greenpeace ship Rainbow Warrior. Now, I’m not saying that they’re completely useless. I’m just saying that if they are leading the effort, I’m a little concerned that things aren’t going to turn out well.

Snake307 on March 19, 2011 at 4:44 PM

Tell us where you have your Bush photos hung up.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM

In the garage right next to Palin, Reagan Cheney and Nixon. You still got that Che shirt on?

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:45 PM

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:30 PM
For someone with no real clue what real life is about, you sure have all the answers.

TXMomof3 on March 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM

+1000

ladyingray on March 19, 2011 at 4:47 PM

In the garage right next to Palin, Reagan Cheney and Nixon. You still got that Che shirt on?

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Damn. Gotta get a Nixon pic…

ladyingray on March 19, 2011 at 4:47 PM

In the garage right next to Palin, Reagan Cheney and Nixon. You still got that Che shirt on?

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:45 PM
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ha ha ha you lump che in with a middle of the road liberal who thinks Ted Kennedy should have died/been shivved in jail.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Hey Rywall, how about you go write your own blog post about all the previous admins. I’ll wait right here for it. Thanks!!

hboulware on March 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Hey you forgot the part where you chastise all the past administrations who did sweet f all to get rid of Ghadaffififii with “policy and method”. We’ll all just wait here while you add it to your article. Thanks.
Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Is that Obama’s plan? That would be news to him.

Chuck Schick on March 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM

The leader of the Reagan Wing of the Republican Party was in India today.

Can’t say that if she were handling things there would be this kind of “dithering”.

Oh well, as Bush used to say, “Watch this drive!” Or should I say, “Blame it on Rio!”

victor82 on March 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM

middle of the road liberal who thinks Ted Kennedy should have died/been shivved in jail.

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Doubtful that you’re middle of the road. At least not any road in America. Kennedy was exactly your type of liberal. Or did he fail to take enough from the producers and transfer enough to parasites such as yourself?

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Why shouldn’t it. They’re card carrying members of “the west”, and this happens to be going on in their backyard. If anything, this will help Europe re-develop the stomach to fight. Are you so insecure that you need the US to play white knight in EVERY crisis?

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:32 PM

You can take your “insecure” and stick it in your ear or the orifice of your choice. It’s a matter of world leadership, dipstick, and this country has relinquished that leadership to the milquetoast French.

rplat on March 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Doubtful that you’re middle of the road. At least not any road in America. Kennedy was exactly your type of liberal. Or did he fail to take enough from the producers and transfer enough to parasites such as yourself?

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:52 PM
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ha ha ha

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Ernesto, invading Iraq was easy, it was morally justified and as been proven100% effective!! The Conservatives…WINNING!

hboulware on March 19, 2011 at 4:56 PM

rplat on March 19, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Again: why, outside of your own need to be the biggest baddest chest thumping knuckledragger on the block, is it a bad thing that the French are taking the lead on Libya?

ernesto on March 19, 2011 at 4:59 PM

America’s allies see only passivity or contradiction in Washington’s response. Mr Obama seems to be cheering on the revolutions which remove long-time allies, such as President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, while sitting on his hands when it comes down to ridding Libya of Col Qaddafi, a ruthless old enemy of the US and a lingering embarrassment to the Arab world.

In Europe, this passivity is greeted in different ways. In Britain, the prime minister, David Cameron, is said to be exasperated at US indecisiveness, with insiders describing the diplomatic process with Washington as like pushing on a piece of string. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy has seized the opportunity to take the lead in recognising the Libyan rebels, to the consternation of Germany.

Arab allies are confused as to whether they can rely on Washington for support. It seems like Washington is no longer the status quo power, but rather a go-with-the-flow power. It lets events take their course.

The first to realise US weakness in the Middle East were the Israelis. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was able to defy Mr Obama’s clearly expressed demands to stop settlement building. Far from being punished, his obstinacy was rewarded with offers of more F-35 advanced stealth fighters. The message has been heard far and wide: in foreign policy Mr Obama is not an effective politician who can match means to ends.

World, you got what you wanted. Suffer, deeply.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Damn straight! The world begged for this useless POS. Now they can deal with it!

gary4205 on March 19, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Rywall, where is your brilliant castigation? I’m still waiting.

hboulware on March 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Rywall, where is your brilliant castigation? I’m still waiting.

hboulware on March 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Don’t you worry! It’s comin’!

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Arab allies are confused as to whether they can rely on Washington for support.

Clarity: They can’t.

World, you got what you wanted. Suffer, deeply.

The world isn’t going to “suffer deeply” from Obama’s dithering as regards getting involved in a civil war in North Africa.

aengus on March 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM

When told that there were Brazillions protesting him Barry asked, “how many is a Brazillion? I am just getting used to Trillions?”

borrowed from poster at lucianne.com

dhunter on March 19, 2011 at 5:14 PM

The world isn’t going to “suffer deeply” from Obama’s dithering as regards getting involved in a civil war in North Africa.

aengus on March 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM

As usaul, Sir, you are correct.

However, the article is about more than Libya; it’s about the toad’s somnambulance.

World, “you got it” Toyota Obama.

Name one people who are free, due to Obama.

Rio got its clowns, too late for the carneval.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Name one people who are free, due to Obama.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 5:30 PM

The black panthers.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 5:36 PM

oh yes, the world will absolutely miss us when we are gone!

GFW on March 19, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Here’s what we need to know while Chicago Jesus parties down with the Carivale Girls with the ta-tas and worries about his brackets.

How many cruise missiles of an anti-ship nature does Colonel Moo-Moo have?

Where is that carrier?

Do Not put it past him to go after the Enterprise if he can find her and if she is in range!

I put my trust in the Fleet Defense and air officers, but I am skeptical of the due care that Jeebus has taken.

You will know that this is a huge cockup when Quaddafi unleashes Cruise Missiles or Chemical Weapons or when the Hezboallah start bombarding Israel.

victor82 on March 19, 2011 at 5:42 PM

I wonder how bad the world will have to get before liberals admit it was a mistake to elect Obama?

scotash on March 19, 2011 at 6:13 PM

The black panthers.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 5:36 PM

People are indignant.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 6:16 PM

ha ha ha that explains a lot

Dave Rywall on March 19, 2011 at 4:38 PM
So does a liberal Canadian fool on a conservative blog.

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 4:40 PM

You are so sexy when you’re righteously p*ssed*
I’m sure Lucy-cat agrees.
*big grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on March 19, 2011 at 6:19 PM

I wonder how bad the world will have to get before liberals admit it was a mistake to elect Obama?

scotash on March 19, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Over a few billion dead bodies.

MikeA on March 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Hey, you Radical Interventionists!

When you figure out how to spell the name of the tyrant whose country it is now all of a sudden our God-Given Mandate to depose, maybe we’ll get behind your little adventure. Until then, I’m not stirring.

If this eternal interventionism is what the GOP has signed onto, then I don’t mind them being out of power another six years.

sartana on March 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Gaddafi has been around since Reagan was prez, so you can hardly wag your finger at Obama. I dislike Obama’s policies as much as the next freedom-loving guy, but I wonder how much better Bush, Bush, Clinton and Reagan would have handled it.

No need to wonder. If Sarah Palin were POTUS the implementation of the NFZ would have begun 3 weeks ago when Qaddafi was on the defensive.

Basilsbest on March 19, 2011 at 6:40 PM

sartana on March 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Blame it on the name of the country’s head of state, Colonel Gaddafi. Wait, no, that’s Kaddafi. Or maybe it’s Qadhafi. Tell you what, we’ll just call him by his first name, which is, er … hoo boy.

Part of the problem here is that there’s no universally accepted authority for transliterating Arabic names. Normally, news outlets will just go with whatever spelling the subject prefers, but this particular subject hasn’t settled on a single Roman orthography for his name.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 6:40 PM

My problem isn’t that the US is intervening in Lybia as much as it refused to raise a finger to help the pro-democracy Iranians during “Green Revolution’ a few years back.
The Green Revolution was being driven by people who really wanted small-d democratic reform.
I suspect that the ‘revolution’ going on in Lybia is much like the ones in Tunisia and Egypt in that it’s beging driven by Islamists.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 19, 2011 at 6:41 PM

:P

Lanceman on March 19, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Intelligent conversation – the ultimate word.

Schadenfreude on March 19, 2011 at 6:56 PM

You folks be careful you don’t p-off our Canadian readers, they might lobby the Canadian Navy to send their ship into the battle with Lybia.

slickwillie2001 on March 19, 2011 at 7:34 PM

MARCH 19, 2011
OBAMA: ‘Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world’…

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: ‘American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger…

via drudge

cmsinaz on March 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Even my 13-year-old daughter said today, “it’s about time Obama did something! What the heck has he been waiting for? It’s embarrassing when FRANCE is more pro-democracy than the USA!”

rockmom on March 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

The shiftless, feckless and , may I say, dickless Mr. Obama leading the charge from behind, Oops! did I say behind?. Que Peter Allen.

Mason on March 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

The shiftless, feckless and , may I say, dickless Mr. Obama leading the charge from behind, Oops! did I say behind?. Que Peter Allen.

Mason on March 19, 2011 at 7:58 PM

That video has become very popular @ HA.
Me and one othercommentor posted it on different ‘Rio’ threads.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 19, 2011 at 8:10 PM

So to Dave Rywall and ernesto, we should look the other way when Saddam breaks the conditions of a CEASE FIRE? Shoots at our planes and PAYS suicide bombers’ families?

See, the gulf war didn’t END it was just a cease fire along with a list of conditions. Since he broke those conditions, we broke up his little dictatorship. See how legal and morally correct that is?

I am sure you would like the murders and rapes to continue there, but people BETTER than yourself stopped it.

DavidM on March 19, 2011 at 8:45 PM

If it was George Bush vacillating about intervening would you all have been so indignant? I don’t like Obama, but this isn’t our fight, and in this case, I don’t disagree with his not taking the lead. If the French and the British want to prop up a bunch of jihadist hoodlums intent on turning Libya into another Iran, so be it. And when the inevitable merde hits the fan, it will all fall on their shoulders.

JFS61 on March 19, 2011 at 8:52 PM

It’s embarrassing when FRANCE is more pro-democracy than the USA!”
rockmom on March 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM

If you think the conflict in Libya is all about democracy, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I think you would interested in.

JFS61 on March 19, 2011 at 8:55 PM

Other than Obama’s lack of any kind of clear communication and messaging, his reluctance to lead the charge for our entry into this mess is to be commended. One only needs look at Iraq and, soon, Afghanistan to understand that the people of these countries and not ready for democracy, let alone feeling any type of gratitude when the West for spending our treasure attempting to lift them out from the grip of their despot and heel from their tyrants.

Let’s help liberate them the the French helped us during our revolution. Supply the rebel weapons that will allow them to win their own freedom but not one more drop of blood from our men and women who put their lives to defend us.

Sailfish on March 19, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Comment: Sorry for the garbled previous post … must try to read before posting.

Other than Obama’s lack of any kind of clear communication and messaging to the American people, his reluctance to lead the charge for our entry into this mess is to be commended. One only needs look at Iraq and, soon, Afghanistan, to understand that the people of these countries are not ready for democracy, let alone feeling any type of gratitude when the West spends our treasure attempting to unclench them from the grip of their despots or lift them from heel from their tyrants.

Let’s help liberate them the the French helped us during our revolution. Supply the rebels weapons that will allow them to win their own freedom but not one more drop of blood from our men and women who put their lives to defend us.

Sailfish on March 19, 2011 at 10:57 PM

Excellent article. If you don’t know what the end is suppose to look like, how can you possibly intervene in a coherent way.

Mojave Mark on March 19, 2011 at 11:55 PM

Gaddafi has been around since Reagan was prez,

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM

He’s been around since Nixon’s first term.

98ZJUSMC on March 20, 2011 at 4:45 AM

Gaddafi has been around since Reagan was prez, so you can hardly wag your finger at Obama. I dislike Obama’s policies as much as the next freedom-loving guy, but I wonder how much better Bush, Bush, Clinton and Reagan would have handled it.

This is the first time there has been a viable uprising to support.

Gaddafi sucks. The rebels are probably militant Muslims, so they suck too. The whole region sucks.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM

While it will probably cough up Muslim militant as the new rulers, a little covert action could change that as well. It will have to be either the Frogs, or Brits couse there is no way AbaMao will.

Slowburn on March 20, 2011 at 5:29 AM

Gaddafi sucks. The rebels are probably militant Muslims, so they suck too. The whole region sucks.

Johnny 100 Pesos on March 19, 2011 at 4:15 PM

While it will probably cough up Muslim militant as the new rulers, a little covert action could change that as well. It will have to be either the Frogs, or Brits couse there is no way AbaMao will.

Slowburn on March 20, 2011 at 5:29 AM

See, this is why I personally do not care WTF happens to this pi$$ant nation.
But I’ll post what I said over at MM:
Well I don’t think we should be screwing around with them very long, but the least someone can do is take out this a-hole so at least people aren’t being murdered without a fighting chance.
I’m just curious. Are you one of those people who, when you hear blood curdling screams & gunshots from your next door neighbor, knowing there are kids inside, turn up the TV & act like nothing’s happening?
Now this is in reference to all the jackwagons who just want to stay out of it.
Are you that neighbor?

Badger40 on March 20, 2011 at 8:20 AM

I wonder how bad the world will have to get before liberals admit it was a mistake to elect Obama?

scotash on March 19, 2011 at 6:13 PM
Over a few billion dead bodies.

MikeA on March 19, 2011 at 6:21 PM

Didn’t work for Mao and Stalin, won’t work for Obama.

BKennedy on March 20, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Nice, but where is the Hot Air story on Sarah having dinner with Netanyahu in Isreal…….. CREDS FOLKS, CREDS!

highninside on March 21, 2011 at 3:25 PM