Report: Obama realized on Tuesday that sanctions weren’t stopping Qaddafi
posted at 6:56 pm on March 18, 2011 by Allahpundit
Amazing. By Tuesday night, Qaddafi had already rolled over multiple rebel towns and was laying waste to Ajdabiya, which was the last stop before Benghazi. As far back as March 11, four days before his revelation that sanctions wouldn’t be enough, I was wondering how Obama could possibly say we were “tightening the noose” on Qaddafi when he’d been advancing steadily against the rebels by that point for a solid week. Until now, I assumed that the reason the UN waited so long to act was because (a) the traditional diplomatic haggling with Russia and China was dragging on and/or (b) Obama had had a sudden change of heart, for whatever reason, after resolving not to intervene.
But … no. Apparently, intervention was always the next step. It just took until Tuesday, for whatever bizarre reason, for that next step to be taken.
Presented with intelligence [on Tuesday] about the push of the Gadhafi regime to the rebel stronghold of Benghazi, the president told his national security team “what we’re doing isn’t stopping him.”
Some in his administration, such as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been pushing for stronger action, but it wasn’t until Tuesday, administration sources tell ABC News, that the president became convinced sanctions and the threat of a no-fly zone wouldn’t be enough.
Already skeptical that a no-fly zone would not have enough of an impact given all the ground attacks, the president met with his national security team from 4:10 pm ET to 5:10 pm ET and asked for more military and diplomatic options, sources tell ABC News…
Rice was instructed to broaden the UN Security Council resolution offered by Lebanon to permit more military might, allowing for the international coalition to stop not just Libyan planes but other Libyan assets such as tanks.
As of 9:40 ET on Tuesday morning, France’s foreign minister already knew that the situation was so dire that a NFZ might well come too late. On Monday night, by 6 p.m. ET, AFP was warning that shells had already started raining down on Ajdabiya and offered this bit of “intelligence”:
The lightly-armed rebels have been pushed back some 200 kilometres by superior forces in the past week and are now only 170 kilometres from Benghazi, Libya’s second city with a population of around one million.
The rebels braced for new attacks knowing they could expect little quarter from Kadhafi’s troops equipped with heavy weaponry and warplanes to which they have virtually no answer.
More than 24 hours before that, by 3 p.m. ET on Sunday, the Christian Science Monitor was reporting on the collapse in rebel morale as Qaddafi’s troops pushed on mercilessly towards the east. I’m really curious: If sanctions plus threats hadn’t worked by then, what on earth did The One think was going to happen between Sunday and Tuesday to get Qaddafi to stop and turn back? Or is this whole story about dire new intelligence just cover for his own dithering? The only strategic explanation I can come up with is that they knew all along that a no-fly zone wouldn’t be enough and therefore deliberately held off until things got very desperate so that they could push a resolution that would let them target Qaddafi’s assets on the ground too. That makes sense politically — if they had gotten a no-fly resolution right away and then tried to expand it, the media would have gone nuts about escalation and “quagmires,” etc — but waiting that long was incredibly risky. Even now, 24 hours after the Security Council voted, it may be too late to protect Benghazi.
Here’s Krauthammer on Fox last night noting that this isn’t a no-fly mission anymore, it’s basically a no-everything mission.









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Being President is hard. It’s not fun and stuff, like guessing who’ll win a basketball game.
Kensington on March 18, 2011 at 8:05 PM
Stir away, canopfer.
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I don’t recall much intervention in Darfur either. Some humanitarian issues are bigger than others I guess.
clnurnberg on March 18, 2011 at 7:57 PM
clnurnberg:Stir we will!:)
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canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 8:05 PM
canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM
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excellent pic my friend
cmsinaz on March 18, 2011 at 8:01 PM
cmsinaz:One of my Sarah Palin favourites!:)
canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 8:07 PM
[Dusty on March 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM]
Geez, Occam’s razor, might apply here. Maybe the report’s grammar was a bad as mine and Barry didn’t understand it.
Dusty on March 18, 2011 at 8:08 PM
“I even used my stern facial expression and everything”
BobMbx on March 18, 2011 at 8:09 PM
indeed, keep that one on your desktop :)
cmsinaz on March 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM
So know you tell me :)
HA had to know this would be an O/T post.
F15Mech on March 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM
He couldn’t be bothered to find out how bad things were getting. He was busy playing golf and making his NCAA picks. Priorities, you know.
WannabeAnglican on March 18, 2011 at 8:13 PM
Is this anything like Barry’s belated realization that ‘there is no such thing as a shovel ready project’?
Barry was probably too preoccupied with packing for Rio.
GarandFan on March 18, 2011 at 8:16 PM
That is an awesome pic.
Hilary and Obama would hit the easy button some sailor put up as a joke. Where Sarah is looking at the plans, and getting enough knowledge needed to understand what it means when the order is given to launch aircraft.
F15Mech on March 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM
Wag the dog.
Unemployment rose in 351-of-372 metro areas, yet somehow the unemployment rate dropped from 9.4, to 9.0 in January.
Guess Obama needed a war so this could get buried.
WoosterOh on March 18, 2011 at 8:23 PM
It would never happen but if Obama staged a coup and then ordered his military to kill those who were protesting, a lot of people, certainly me and perhaps including you, would be begging and praying for the world to help.
Basilsbest on March 18, 2011 at 8:26 PM
But, in this case, who staged the coup?
OldEnglish on March 18, 2011 at 8:32 PM
Yep. I hardly think preventing slaughter is “interfering in internal affairs”. Internal affairs is more like taxes, roadways, department of education.
clnurnberg on March 18, 2011 at 8:32 PM
The problem with that is the emphasis some people place on certain conditions, while other people place things differently.
When did we abrogate responsibility for all of our business, rather than keeping a wish list of items to ourselves, allowing all other items to be open slather?
OldEnglish on March 18, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Remember you owe anyone who does that for you… I wouldn’t want that to be, say, China. Not that hot on Russia, either.
Never ask for something that could put you in a worse off position because, generally, it will. Take care of problems yourself, which would be internal work not looking for the external help. Voluntary help is one thing, asking for it means you pay up after its over. Thus DIY, even if it gets really messy. It is easy to say you will get rid of the Danegeld. It is not so easy to get rid of the Dane.
ajacksonian on March 18, 2011 at 8:42 PM
I wonder if the dems are ready to eat 9 years of crow…
(i didn’t think so)
phreshone on March 18, 2011 at 8:44 PM
It was Obama’s March Madness picks that finally convinced Khadaffy that Barack was crazier than he was.
profitsbeard on March 18, 2011 at 8:51 PM
Breaking out Godwin’s law here and asking what counts as a internal affairs?
Germany would be allowed to kill all Jews as long as they did not invade another country?
Japan would not have looked elsewhere (in a country with limited natural resources) (China) for resources
Lybia/Iran can slaughter as many citizens as necessary as long as they do not invade another country?
F15Mech on March 18, 2011 at 8:51 PM
As for Germany, look at Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Stalin in the USSR, Mao in China or Pol Pot in Cambodia. Hutus and Tutsi’s saw the UN run. Then there is Burma today and Argentina under Menem, each having their uses for political prisoners and ‘disappearing’ some. What was the US stance on each of those, because you got the gamut of Presidents there: every single one from Truman to Clinton.
Japan was purchasing steel from the US while it was invading China and going after Nanking.
And Libya/Iran, see Germany, above.
We said ‘never again’ after seeing the Death Camps.
Mao was killing his way to power in 1949.
Didn’t last long, did it?
ajacksonian on March 18, 2011 at 9:03 PM
a. doesnt’ the white house have basic cable? becuase i knew by watching cnn and fox that sanctions weren’t working 10 days ago
b. what kind of a naive dolt would believe that sanctions would work anyway?
obama cannot be this stupid…what am i missing?
DrW on March 18, 2011 at 9:11 PM
I don’t really think the reference to Germany applies, here. The Jewish population did not try to take over its government, but the Shiites are trying to take over Libya.
OldEnglish on March 18, 2011 at 9:11 PM
I don’t think your reply was particularly coherent. Nobody is recommending a military free for all in Libya or in any other country for that matter.
clnurnberg on March 18, 2011 at 9:33 PM
Who in their right mind would ever think the media would print anything critical of this administration? They would print whatever the WH told them to print.
Herb on March 18, 2011 at 9:34 PM
I agree he is not that stupid but there is a reason. Gives me chills.
Herb on March 18, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Probably not. More applicable in Darfur perhaps and we did nothing.
No fan of Gadaffi though. We should have wiped the floor with him after Lockerbie. The “criminal” trial response to that was stupid and should have never been allowed to interfere with a real response. Even if we went ahead in 2003 after he admitted responsibility, we should have squashed the bastard and his ilk
clnurnberg on March 18, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Yeah, you’re right – thought and fingers not in concert.
What I meant was that if sovereignty is limited to a list of mundane items, such as taxes, one opens a myriad doors for other items to be included/excluded by outsiders, depending upon their priorities.
If one says get off my lawn, there is no argument as to sovereignty.
OldEnglish on March 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM
Indubitably!
OldEnglish on March 18, 2011 at 9:51 PM
That probably is the best anyone could possibly do in the way of justification, so I applaud your devil’s advocate skills.
But this really doesn’t seem Remotely plausible.
A. That level of 3D chess is creative, but it’s terribly naive to think that you can exert serious control over events by some kind of soooper strategic timing.
B. We very likely wouldn’t have needed anything more than a NFZ if we had acted earlier. Several weeks ago, the rebels were closing in on Tripoli, and Daffy’s military (his only hope of saving himself) was defecting left and right. All he needed was a little push. Now whatever happens the affair will be more protracted.
C. In addition to being stupid in principle, following the UN’s, or even France’s lead on this is particularly foolish in a situation like this. Crossing Kadaffi now means either finishing him or letting him be a thorn in our side for years. It is absurdly unlikely that the international community will authorize his outer if he agrees to a ceasefire at any poit in this affair, so deferring to them on this matter means that unless he dies fighting, we’ll be stuck with him, holding a grudge against us, and generally being a regional menace. Sound familiar?
RINO in Name Only on March 18, 2011 at 10:02 PM
We now know it takes him three days to eat his waffle.
rukiddingme on March 18, 2011 at 10:09 PM
Plume. Never good.
betsyz on March 18, 2011 at 10:19 PM
By that standard, what Adolf did to the Jews was internal business too.
unclesmrgol on March 18, 2011 at 11:28 PM
You are describing a series of failures. Because we have failed before, it now is proper to fail again. Got it.
unclesmrgol on March 18, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Hey, Barry, show the world yer a decisive leader. Find an aspirin factory and bomb the hell out of it.
petefrt on March 18, 2011 at 11:33 PM
The opposite of a no-fly zone.
unclesmrgol on March 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM
Yeah, opposite… same.. doesn’t matter… just do something… something… anything to show ‘decisiveness’… before you go to Rio. Yer gettin’ bad press over this crap.
petefrt on March 19, 2011 at 12:04 AM
Bbbbbut… Harvard Law Review!!!
gwelf on March 19, 2011 at 1:31 AM
The hypocrisy of this just astounds me. The Dems railed about regime change in Iraq that we shouldn’t be doing it, Bush lied people died, yada, yada, yada. In Libya, they’re all for it. In Iraq, the Dems railed about the lack of an exit strategy, in Libya, no one is even brought it up. If it’s a war the Dems are starting, they’re hawks (Obama voting present not withstanding), if it’s not, they’re doves. The troops are tired, the equipment is worn out, we can’t afford it. Arm the rebels and let them duke it out.
TulsAmerican on March 19, 2011 at 4:17 AM
I’ll never forget when Carter realized that Breshnev had lied too him in a televised interview. I thought what a doofus our President was at the time.
Gosh, I miss Jimmy Carter!!!
PappyD61 on March 20, 2011 at 8:44 AM
I don’t understand what the Americans are doing; I just don’t. Surely, I imagine, things will look much different to them after they run out of money. In the meantime, it’s puzzling to see them run up their expenses and debt with such carefree abandon.
Kralizec on March 20, 2011 at 11:59 AM
President Obama forgot one of the most important things about negotiations. Look straight into the eyes of the person your interviewing, otherwise the process is broken and pointless. Therefore, we have a president that is not negotiating he is just talking to person who is not listening.
MSGTAS on March 21, 2011 at 10:56 AM
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