Obama: Oh, by the way, we’re going to war in Libya

posted at 4:36 pm on March 18, 2011 by Allahpundit

Just a quick heads up to the country about our third war in the Middle East before he flies off to South America. Here’s the transcript. Highlights: No ground troops; no acknowledgment of Qaddafi’s “ceasefire” (which is just as well, since it’s a pathetic and utter fraud); and no word on whether he’ll ask Congress to authorize the mission, as his friend Dick Lugar is urging him to do. Instead, he laid down conditions for Qaddafi to accept. Take ‘em or leave ‘em:

The resolution that passed lays out very clear conditions that must be met.

The United States, the United Kingdom, France and Arab states agree that a cease-fire must be implemented immediately. That means all attacks against civilians must stop.

Qadhafi must stop his troops from advancing on Benghazi, pull them back from Adjabiyah, Misurata (ph) and Zawiyah (ph), and establish water, electricity and gas supplies to all area.

Humanitarian assistance must be allowed to reach the people of Libya.

Let me be clear: These terms are not negotiable.

Conspicuously missing from that list is any demand for regime change, which Obama was pushing just days ago. If Qaddafi retreats to the western half of the country and turns the lights back on in Benghazi, what then? Mission accomplished? The moment coalition ships leave the Mediterranean, he’ll start rolling eastward. Or is the idea to keep him at bay for a few months while Egyptian arms flow in and the rebels get organized? Unless we plan on destroying his planes on the ground first, there’d better be plenty of anti-aircraft weapons in those shipments.

Another intriguing detail from Obama’s remarks. Who’s leading this mission?

We will provide the unique capabilities that we can bring to bear to stop the violence against civilians, including enabling our European allies and Arab partners to effectively enforce a no-fly zone. I have no doubt that the men and women of our military are capable of carrying out this mission. Once more, they have the thanks of a grateful nation and the admiration of the world…

It is not an action that we will pursue alone. Indeed, our British and French allies and members of the Arab League have already committed to take a leadership role in the enforcement of this resolution, just as they were instrumental in pursuing it.

That makes it sound like the British and French will be doing the actual raids with the U.S. in support, although if that were the case he surely would have elaborated on it in his remarks. What he’s doing here, I take it, is being deliberately ambiguous to suggest a subsidiary role knowing that intervention isn’t polling well among Americans. Whatever he can say to get U.S. fingerprints off the mission will make it not only more popular abroad but here as well. An iron American fist in a velvety European glove!

One more choice bit:

Now, here’s why this matters to us. Left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Qadhafi would commit atrocities against his people. Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue.

The entire region could be destabilized, endangering many of our allies and partners.

The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun.

Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.

I’m amazed he threw in the bit about democratic values given that there’s no guarantee that the Libyan rebels will support democracy once they’ve taken care of Qaddafi. It’s a tribal society; it’ll go on being a tribal society when he’s gone, hopefully with some sort of parliament or congress where the tribes can confer, but whether tribal representatives will be elected is anyone’s guess. If democracy doesn’t happen, The One will be eating these words all the way to election day 2012. The part about destabilization is weird too considering that the big gripe among our “friends” in Riyadh is that it’s the White House that’s destabilizing the region by backing revolutionaries over old guard tyrants like Mubarak. In fact, the Journal had a must-read story just yesterday about how upheaval in Egypt and elsewhere is knocking off some of America’s counterterrorism allies and helping to spring dangerous jihadis from prison. If Qaddafi is ousted and Libya melts down and becomes an Afghanistan on the Mediterranean, that’ll be arguably as dangerous for us, our allies, and partners as Qaddafi is. And Obama will hear about that endlessly until election day, too. And rightly so.

He reportedly told his cabinet a few days ago that intervention here is “the greatest opportunity to realign our interests and our values.” That sounds amazingly Bush-ian, but I’m not sure what it means. Presumably, he thinks a pro-democratic humanitarian mission will so endear us to young Arab reformists that it’ll tilt the revolutionary zeitgeist in the region towards the west and away from the Islamists. Could be, but the Muslim Brotherhood is organizing in Egypt, Iran is angling to exploit the crisis in Bahrain, Hezbollah now effectively controls Lebanon, and god know what is set to emerge in Libya. Even the formerly pro-western powers in the Muslim world, like Turkey, are trending east, not west. Is knocking out Qaddafi and freaking out the Saudis and Jordanians with an emphatic pro-reform stance going to slow that tide?

Watch the clip, because one way or another, these words will matter next year. As I write this, Al Jazeera is reporting that Qaddafi’s troops are still advancing on Benghazi and might be within 50 km. Anecdotal reports claim that the regime is attacking other cities too, and that they’re actually stockpiling corpses to be displayed to the gullible press as victims of coalition bombing once the airstrikes begin. Note to The One: Now that we’re really going ahead with this, hurry up.

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OT/ by the way…..

Are we all Sunni Muslim freedom fighters or Shite Muslim freedom fighters now? (hate to be picky but it might mean life or death in some parts of paradise)

BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Now, here’s why this matters to us. Left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Qadhafi would commit atrocities against his people. Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue.

What a difference a (D) in front of a name and a view from the White House makes…..

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/08/obamas-180-on-genocide/

” the AP reported on July 20, 2007 (my italics). withdrawal would unleash a massive Iraqi bloodbath. “Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep US forces there,” the AP reported on July 20, 2007 (my italics).

So let me see if I can get the “new” liberal position for going to war……

….In Iraq…genocide had been taking place….we had a terrorist leader that had defied UN sanctions and the ceasefire agreement with the US…..Oil for food scam that Saddam was using to arm himself….capabilities to re-institute his WMD’s…..direct dealings with terrorist groups…and it was well understood that if we withdrew from Iraq….a blood bath would ensue that would kill hundreds of thousands.

……Obama stated then that these were not good enough reasons to take Saddam out….and when faced with the “humanitarian crises” that would ensue if we withdrew…Obama stated that was not a good enough reason to stay.

…But people getting killed in Libya on no where near the scale that they were being slaughtered in Iraq is a dam# good enough reason to go to war according to Mr. “War is not the Answer”…..

….and all those anti-war liberals that have run off to the coffee shops will go right along with this because Obama is a democrat.

If liberals were going to try and even seem credible with their “no blood for oil” rants….this would be the time.

Instead they will spin and lie to help defend their chicken hawk leader drive the war machine while they wave the peace sign.

How progressive!!!!!

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

No blood for Oil!
Boy, I bet Rev. Wright and Calypso Louie are frothing at their rapids mouths about now.

kingsjester on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

dinner with moonbats last night.

” we should not be the world’s policeman’, they cried in unison. stay out of libya at all costs.

my reply…”I guess Mr. Obama is willing to trade blood for oil”

the moonbats were speechless…they were hoist on there own petards.

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Obowma’s “No Fly Zone” will be to put our men and women in harms way…

… without any ammunition, “Rules of Engagement” that guarantee heavy losses of US forces, who will be commanded by a UN General.

Any President that arms our Southern Border Patrol with bean-bag guns…

… will only succeed in our defeat.

Seven Percent Solution on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Right on! Islam is the answer!

BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

No blood for Oil!
Boy, I bet Rev. Wright and Calypso Louie are frothing at their rapids mouths about now.

kingsjester on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

great minds, king

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Where’s Osama?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Heh!!!

………so true.

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Libya is easy…oh wait, Zero is in charge…(30 days later)…uhh….

“From the halls of Montezuma, to the SHORES OF TRIPOLI…”

Who is John Galt on March 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM

700,000 Libyans dead -The Lancet

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:14 PM

WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER!
Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Right on! Islam is the answer!
BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

Islam is war.

logis on March 18, 2011 at 6:14 PM

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:13 PM

Yep. I just wrote this morning about their little jaunt and ties to Kadhafi. They can join the rest of his base in freaking out today.

kingsjester on March 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Woohoo!

Goin’ for another Peace Prize!

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2011 at 6:15 PM

kaddafi is now threatening to attack civilian airliners in retaliation.

this thing is going to get out of control right quick folks.

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 6:10 PM

OK, I see where you’re coming from now. Politics and the water’s edge and all that. But that does not mean that they are relieved of their Constitutional duties (checks and balances). I think that some form of declaration of war is required prior to permitting our President to, you know, wage war.

I’ll agree that they shouldn’t be in the business of undermining the CinC’s war efforts. However they should have made clear what they think our objectives are and what our level of commitment should be long before now. The objectives in particular are important so that we can know when we can declare victory and leave!

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM

It’s times like this I wish we had an American President.

kingsjester on March 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

I can’t wait for the day when the NEA is fully funded and the US Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomb.//

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

And if you read one of the articles linked over at Drudge, our military commanders said they want no part of this. They have said they feel it is a big risk to our military.

“The Pentagon does not want to get involved in this,” said one U.S. national security official familiar with recent discussions about a possible Libya operation.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-u-allies-tightening-noose-around-gaddafi-20110311-103340-971.html

Why is he doing this? There is something not right with this at all.
Hey, how much do you want to bet our forces will have to follow orders from the French, British and Arab States? I bet he hands command over to them. That way he thinks his hands will be clean if it turns bad!

JellyToast on March 18, 2011 at 6:22 PM

This is the right thing, albeit very late to the game. I only hope it isn’t too late, and that we have a semblance of a plan to eliminate the Daffy Bastard and for a sane way forward after the dust settles that doesn’t involve interminable nation-building with the U.S. as the prime benefactor.

hillbillyjim on March 18, 2011 at 6:23 PM

BREAKING!!1

Formations from the 1st, 5th, 6th, 8th, 17th 18th, 23rd and 64th Airmobile Modular Muslim Girls Schools Corps have been dropped in the southern desert of Libya. Classes are expected to start Monday.

BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 6:24 PM

And NO MORE new governments with a shariah-poisoned constitution as its basis.

hillbillyjim on March 18, 2011 at 6:24 PM

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

If liberals had any credibility at all….they would have called Obama on this before he was elected President.

Obama campaigned on escalating Afghanistan…

When he became President with filibuster proof majorities….
….Obama embraced policies like:

Rendition…

…..Indefinite detention….

…………Patriot Act…..

……………..Enhanced Interrogation…..

………………….NSA wiretapping

………………………..Signing statements

………………………………bombing villages and killing civilians.

…….all of these were considered “war crimes” and the actions of a “dictator” when Bush did them.

Now that Obama has been doing them for over 2 years….the perpetually enraged anti-war crowd now calls them “smart power”….

This military action in Libya is just an add on to the war policies that Chicken Hawk Obama has been carrying out while getting a total pass from the useful idiots in the democratic party.

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM

I only hope it isn’t too late, and that we have a semblance of a plan to eliminate the Daffy Bastard and for a sane way forward after the dust settles that doesn’t involve interminable nation-building with the U.S. as the prime benefactor.

hillbillyjim on March 18, 2011 at 6:23 PM

Yeah, right (hysterical laughter)

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

At this point it looks like we will be in a support role. For some reason I don’t even think we are going to do much.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 6:26 PM

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:25 PM

Heh. Chickenhawk! Spot on. And where are all the Turtledove anti-war folks? Hiding in their shells?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Coexist !
Kumbaya !

Zero promised to be a lover not a fighter !

Hey, hey. Ho, ho. Moammar has gotta go ! Hey, hey. Ho, ho…

viking01 on March 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM

He doesn’t care what happens. As long as other nations are leading, he won’t be blamed. He thinks.

PattyJ on March 18, 2011 at 6:30 PM

where are all the Turtledove anti-war folks? Hiding in their shells?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM

If you’ll notice, the same people that organized the Anti-War Rallies during the Bush Administration are the same ones organizing the Pro-Union Rallies across the country.

The Socialist, Marxist Neo-Commies.

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2011 at 6:31 PM

It’s times like this I wish we had an American President.

kingsjester on March 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM

I’d settle with one who was actually born in Hawai’i

Del Dolemonte on March 18, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Listening to his explanation again, and I can’t believe how similar it is to a Bush declaration in regards to Iraq… uncanny ( or just my weird brain)
Reading the lefties rejoicing over how Obambi did this the RIGHT way (worldwide consensus, etc) just emphasizes the power of their BDS.
Purely boggling.

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 6:34 PM

Hey, hey. Ho, ho. Moammar has gotta go ! Hey, hey. Ho, ho…

viking01 on March 18, 2011 at 6:29 PM

Mooochelle and I’s off to Rio!

Basketball Jones or “Cousin Eddie” endless vaca presidente!

Take your pick.

Reagan had the right idea to get rid of Gaddfi fire a cruise missile through his bedroom window, end of terrorist and message send to others!

Urkel? No fly zone after freedoms fighters eliminated.

dhunter on March 18, 2011 at 6:35 PM

I’m amazed he threw in the bit about democratic values given that there’s no guarantee that the Libyan rebels will support democracy once they’ve taken care of Qaddafi.

Really? Anything this guy does anymore still amazes at it’s nonsensical nature?

BTW, we’ll see anti-war protesters by the millions all over the world this weekend, right? Obama = War Criminal, No Blood For Oil, etc – all the favorite anti-war signs and crap? All the media aligning against Obama, shortly right?

lol

Midas on March 18, 2011 at 6:38 PM

Faux News needs some on scene reportage I dhunter volunteers Whorealdo and OReally?

dhunter on March 18, 2011 at 6:39 PM

Support the troops, but not the mission. Right, Dems?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:40 PM

this thing is going to get out of control right quick folks.

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM


When did Libya attack us?????????

Was this not one of the main points shouted by the anti-war crowd concerning Iraq…..

…Out of control is right.
Pakistan is blowing up in our faces and as they go…Afghanistan goes.Obama has no clue what to do with the war we have going on right now….adding this in will only make it worse.

If I remember correctly..,.the reasons Obama gave for not promptly addressing the uprisings in Iran,Egypt,Libya,and others was because we did not want to inflame the muslims and allow these revolutions to be about us.
When you start bombing other Middle Eastern Countries….you have moved the goal posts way beyond “inflaming” the muslim people.

……..won’t these actions be a big recruiting tool to be used by the terrorist??????

…..bombing other muslims has got to inflame this part of the world a hell of a lot more than Gitmo.

When Obama sat by and watched the slaughter in Iran from the 18th hole….he made it very clear that he did not “interfere” in other countries internal affairs:

Obama:

We do not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs. We have condemned terrorist attacks against Iran. We have recognized Iran’s international right to peaceful nuclear power. We have demonstrated our willingness to take confidence-building steps along with others in the international community. We have accepted a proposal by the International Atomic Energy Agency to meet Iran’s request for assistance in meeting the medical needs of its people. We have made clear that if Iran lives up to the obligations that every nation has, it will have a path to a more prosperous and productive relationship with the international community.

Obama and his liberal allies are all over the place when it comes to war and dealing with National Security.
How can anybody trust or have any confidence in people like this who show such hypocrisy and ignorance.

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:42 PM

dinner with moonbats last night.

” we should not be the world’s policeman’, they cried in unison. stay out of libya at all costs.

my reply…”I guess Mr. Obama is willing to trade blood for oil”

the moonbats were speechless…they were hoist on there own petards.

DrW on March 18, 2011 at 6:12 PM

[stands up and applauds DrW]

Mary in LA on March 18, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Okay- I’m not taking sides here but just what qualifies an armed militia to be “civilians”? And if armed militias “captured” cities in the US in an effort to overthrow the Obama government, wouldn’t you expect him to try and put that effort down?

My point here is that it seems we’re assigning righteousness to a group of largely Shiite Muslims who’ve seized the initiative of regional unrest to try and overthrow a leader that -earlier in his term- Obama legitimized by shaking his hand. This is also a guy, unlike Ahmadinejad, who professed to end his reach for nuclear weapons under the threat of US force in the region.

Again, I know he’s a scumbag, but why would anyone believe that what will prevail in Libya will be any better?

BKeyser on March 18, 2011 at 6:46 PM

The United States, the United Kingdom, France and Arab states

Does that include the Magnificent Saudis? They are incredible people throwing themselves into fighting two wars at once! The one against the evil Gaddaffi in the west of the Ummah and one close to home against the evil hallucinogen swilling Shite Scum rebel ungrates in tiny brave Bahrain! We owe the Supreme Saudis everything, our lives, their oil everything!!!11!1

BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 6:47 PM

“Now, watch this drive.” ~Obama

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:48 PM

Barry will never go first. Not even at a cabinet meeting.

What’s done is done. At this point I don’t care if the first missle has the Tri-Color, the Union Jack, or the Stars and Stripes on it as long as that missle works.

Limerick on March 18, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Just like Kosovo, eh? No approval of force from Congress. Cite NATO has the higher-approving agency. Let’s make the world safe for Muslim expansion.

onlineanalyst on March 18, 2011 at 6:50 PM

This is gonna put a choke hold on Qhaddafi’s flying tanks.

fogw on March 18, 2011 at 6:51 PM

Heh. Chickenhawk! Spot on. And where are all the Turtledove anti-war folks? Hiding in their shells?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:27 PM

Here they are:

Code Pinko Crybaby Laments Obama’s Poll Dive

Posted by Lady Liberty on Sunday, September 5, 2010, 8:46 PM
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/09/code-pinko-crybaby-laments-obamas-poll-dive/

Meanwhile, the leaders have kept their grumbling about Afghanistan mostly to themselves, to keep Obama’s sagging poll numbers from sinking further or jeopardizing the Democratic majority in Congress.
“A lot of the people who were part of this movement have retreated,” Codepink’s Benjamin said. “They wanted to give up on the timetable [for withdrawing from Iraq]. Some are still reluctant to criticize a Democratic president now with the midterms coming up.”

So you see….”War is not the Answer”…..we can’t let the Bushhitlerhaliburtonwarmonger continue his imperialistic ventures for oil using the blood of our children……
………..unless a democrat wants to do it.

“War is not the Answer” only if it does not hurt the poll numbers of a democratic President…..

How Progressive!!!!!!!!

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 6:51 PM

How many Libyan wedding party attendees will have to die before Obama stops this madness???????

Cicero43 on March 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Does Obama love these rebels so much that he is prepared to lose pilots over this? An aircraft carrier? It only takes one fighter and a missile to get through. This boggles the mind!
I am seriously at the point where I just want all of our troops to come home and now Obama is sending our forces over to Libya? Why? Even if these rebels are freedoms fighters, heck, we got people fighting for freedom all over the freaking world! We got people fighting for freedom right here in America and Obama hates them!

What is it about these special rebels? He wasn’t so keen on the freedom fighters that were dying in the streets of Iran last year? He explicitly said then he we couldn’t get involved in another countries internal affairs! But now we have to go in and over throw QaDaffy Duck for some insane reason! We have to risk American lives for these rebels!
I think something else is going on here! God help us make it to 2012! He sens our forces into harm sway on a whim, against our commander’s wishes, all for a group of rebels no one knows who they are.. and then he goes off on vacation!?
If we had real men and women in congress they should impeach this President! He is destroying our country right in front of our eyes!

JellyToast on March 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM

JellyToast on March 18, 2011 at 6:52 PM

This isn’t about the rebels, Jefferson, or touchy feely with the Muslims. This is about Gadaffyduck. Many here have said the same. We should have done this on Feb 23rd. I’ll take Mar 18 as a compromise.

Limerick on March 18, 2011 at 6:55 PM

Send the twins Dems’ kids!

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 7:00 PM

I wonder if the libtards will be pulling out the old ‘no blood for oil’ signs? How about the Obama-Hitler chants? Are ya ready kids?

Mojave Mark on March 18, 2011 at 7:01 PM

At least Obama served! Right, Dems?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Reading the lefties rejoicing over how Obambi did this the RIGHT way (worldwide consensus, etc) just emphasizes the power of their BDS.
Purely boggling.

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 6:34 PM

So going to war against an oil rich nation that did not attack us is now okay with liberals because we have “international support”….

We had a lot of International support in Iraq:

Four countries participated with troops during the initial invasion phase, which lasted from March 19 to April 9, 2003. These were the United States (148,000), United Kingdom (45,000), Australia (2,000), and Poland (194). 36 other countries were involved in its aftermath. In preparation for the invasion, 100,000 U.S. troops were assembled in Kuwait by February 18.[19] The United States supplied the majority of the invading forces, but also received support from Kurdish irregulars in Iraqi Kurdistan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-National_Force_%E2%80%93_Iraq


# Australia: 2,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
# United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion (withdrawn 7/09)
# Romania: 730 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/09)
# El Salvador: 380 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 1/09)
# Estonia: 40 troops (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 1/09)
# Bulgaria: 485 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Moldova: 24 peak (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Albania: 240 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Ukraine: 1,650 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Czech Republic: 300 peak (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# South Korea: 3,600 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04-withdrawn 12/08)
# Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04-withdrawn 12/08)
# Azerbaijan: 250 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Singapore: 175 offshore (deployed 12/03-withdrawn 12/08)
# Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 peak (deployed 6/05-withdrawn 11/08)
# Macedonia: 77 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/08)
# Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
# Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
# Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
# Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
# Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
# Georgia: 2,000 peak

* Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
* Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03-withdrawn 08/07)
* Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 11/06)
* Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 8/06)
* Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 3/05)
* Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 3/05)
* Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03-withdrawn 2/05)
* New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 9/04)
* Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/04)
* Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03-withdrawn 7/04)
* Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
* Dominican Republic: 302 troops (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 5/04)
* Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 4/04)
* Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 2/04)
* Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03-withdrawal date unknown)

……..and many more countries were allied with us that did not participate in ground operations.

The liberal talking point of “we did it the right way…with a consensus”…is just as stupid as their “no blood for oil”…..

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 7:04 PM

President Obama…

…….can’t we just give peace a chance???????

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 7:09 PM

We invaded Iraq on St. Patrick’s Day 2003, I believe.

Barry is a day late and 15 trillion dollars short.

Naturally Curly on March 18, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Can’t believe I have to talk to these folks, could be on AF1 by now, sitting back with a cold one
Rio, here I come
-dear leader

cmsinaz on March 18, 2011 at 7:11 PM

You haters are gettin all excited over nothin,

OBlahBlah just says stuff he doesn’t actually DO stuff.

Except basketball, partay and vacay!

dhunter on March 18, 2011 at 7:12 PM

President Obama:

……..will Gaddafi’s “freedom fighters” be read their rights before killing them?????????

……….How many civilians will have to die before you stop bombing them??????????

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 7:14 PM

Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.

He’s kidding, right? When have the words of the “international community” (read: United Nations) not been rendered hollow.

SukieTawdry on March 18, 2011 at 7:21 PM

Obama had time to make his Ladies March Madness picks of course going with UConn, but what I really want to know what Obama thinks of Brad and Emily from Bachelor?

WoosterOh on March 18, 2011 at 7:21 PM

This type of sh!t is really mussing up Michelle’s vacations and parties. Someone’s gonna pay!

Alden Pyle on March 18, 2011 at 7:31 PM

What’s with these neo-cons. Oh wait…

Hummer53 on March 18, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Heh.

Patrick on March 18, 2011 at 7:33 PM

America is going to war with Libya.

I’m going on vacation to Rio! So long Suckers!

Kini on March 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM

America is going to war with Libya.

I’m going on vacation to Rio! So long Suckers!

Kini on March 18, 2011 at 7:39 PM

“After I start a war with Libya, I go to Rio, De Janeiro!”

Caper29 on March 18, 2011 at 7:44 PM

I heard this speech earlier, and Obama said exactly what he needed to make himself look like a decisive leader to the casual American observer. He even boasted how his administration moved “swiftly” when this all started, yet I’ve grown used to these dishonest comments and how he gets away with them.

A no fly zone is an act of war, in a country the size of Libya it will require a significant military presence and this is yet another war in another muslim country which we are going to fight half a**ed war that eventually will put American troops in danger. He insists that we will not have a ground presence, hoping this will help him politically yet you don’t say things like that when you’re trying to scare a dictator into giving up! He truly is all talk using bold words about enforcing his ultimatum on Qadaffi with military force is he doesn’t cooperate, but then rules out the use of ground troops? I don’t want to see a ground presence in Libya, I don’t trust the rebels, but you don’t let Qadaffi know that.

Daemonocracy on March 18, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Yep.

Left Coast Right Mind on March 18, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 7:04 PM
pambi on March 18, 2011 at 6:34 PM

The Gulf War was waged by a UN-authorized coalition (Bush 41 did it the right way), but as I recall, the left was none too happy about that one. In fact, most of the Democrats in Congress voted against the authorizing resolution. We all know the deciding factor for the left is whether an “R” or a “D” occupies the White House.

SukieTawdry on March 18, 2011 at 7:55 PM

We all know the deciding factor for the left is whether an “R” or a “D” occupies the White House.

SukieTawdry on March 18, 2011 at 7:55 PM

nuff said

cmsinaz on March 18, 2011 at 8:08 PM

WTH is congress doing????? He can’t do this without congressional approval and budget. It doens’t matter what the UN says!

……Crickets…….

xler8bmw on March 18, 2011 at 8:08 PM

We all know the deciding factor for the left is whether an “R” or a “D” occupies the White House.

SukieTawdry on March 18, 2011 at 7:55 PM

Exactly…

democrats have no problem exploiting the difficulties of war and the blood of our Soldiers to score political points in their pursuit of power on Capital Hill…..absolutely disgusting.

Baxter Greene on March 18, 2011 at 8:10 PM

xler8bmw on March 18, 2011 at 8:08 PM

The R’s can always put in language that ‘money appropriated in this bill cannot be used for operations connected with Libya’… it is what the D’s did with Vietnam.

I’ve got no love for Kadufus, but I would at least appreciate it if the rebels would say what they are standing for and what their accountability is. Get that little improvised government thing going, first. Otherwise its hard to see how this is different than any other internecine fight over who rules.

Then again, the Palestinians have had over 50 years and they still can’t figure that little bit out: that no one bestows a government to you to get a country, you get your countrymen together and form a government.

ajacksonian on March 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Will Barry have to give “The Peace Prize” back?

GarandFan on March 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

ajacksonian on March 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

True, but will they have the political will to do so?

xler8bmw on March 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM

xler8bmw on March 18, 2011 at 8:22 PM

It doesn’t take much. The Founding Fathers had a room full of guys to get the Declaration signed then churn out the Articles… all Poland needed was the Declaration and we soon got our first Light Cavalry.

Amazing things can happen with a few people who know what they are doing.

Much bloodshed usually ensues with those who are unclear on the concept. I would much prefer not supporting this latter type.

ajacksonian on March 18, 2011 at 8:28 PM

“The United States of America will not stand idly by in the fact of actions that undermine global peace and security.”

… like we have done for the last two weeks years with Iran.

AnotherOpinion on March 18, 2011 at 4:48 PM

AshleyTKing on March 18, 2011 at 9:20 PM

“The United States of America will not stand idly by in the fact of actions that undermine global peace and security.”

Was he reading from a teleprompter? Did it actually read fact instead of face – which a smart person would have caught anyway, or did the genius really screw up, again?

global peace and security

This is the moron that wanted to concede Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran. And that was in a war the U.S. started.

Basilsbest on March 18, 2011 at 11:41 PM

Why isn’t obama also giving an ultimatum to Ali Abdullah Saleh? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_yemen

And what about Saudi Arabia? They have invaded another country, Bahrain, to suppress and kill it’s “rebels”.

Murphy9 on March 19, 2011 at 2:40 AM

“The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun.”

Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.

I’m amazed he threw in the bit about democratic values given that”:

1) He hasn’t bothered to get Congressional authorization for any WAR.

2) The Constitution expressly states that only Congress can authorize WAR.

3) A UN resolution is not the United States Congress, which, under our Constitution is the only authority to authorize WAR.

4) Obama is the one undermining our Democratic “values” if he participates in WAR without Congressional authorization under the CONSTITUTION to go to WAR.

mountainaires on March 19, 2011 at 11:48 AM

While I really don’t give a rat’s a$$ about these 2-bit muslim nutbag countries, I do think that we should just take him out quickly & then leave the rest to the idiots that are left.
And everytime they eff with us, we do the same thing again.
Don’t eff with us, we leave you along.
Eff with us, we bomb the crap out of you.
Tired of watching us be the world’s police.
Just make sure our interests are secured & leave the rest alone.
These idiot muslim nations will never be capable of any kind of democracy.
And whatever they do ever get will only involve the same old $hit it has always involved.
Leave them to stew in their own $hit.
Contain the $hit spill.

Badger40 on March 19, 2011 at 7:30 PM

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