Obama: Oh, by the way, we’re going to war in Libya

posted at 4:36 pm on March 18, 2011 by Allahpundit

Just a quick heads up to the country about our third war in the Middle East before he flies off to South America. Here’s the transcript. Highlights: No ground troops; no acknowledgment of Qaddafi’s “ceasefire” (which is just as well, since it’s a pathetic and utter fraud); and no word on whether he’ll ask Congress to authorize the mission, as his friend Dick Lugar is urging him to do. Instead, he laid down conditions for Qaddafi to accept. Take ‘em or leave ‘em:

The resolution that passed lays out very clear conditions that must be met.

The United States, the United Kingdom, France and Arab states agree that a cease-fire must be implemented immediately. That means all attacks against civilians must stop.

Qadhafi must stop his troops from advancing on Benghazi, pull them back from Adjabiyah, Misurata (ph) and Zawiyah (ph), and establish water, electricity and gas supplies to all area.

Humanitarian assistance must be allowed to reach the people of Libya.

Let me be clear: These terms are not negotiable.

Conspicuously missing from that list is any demand for regime change, which Obama was pushing just days ago. If Qaddafi retreats to the western half of the country and turns the lights back on in Benghazi, what then? Mission accomplished? The moment coalition ships leave the Mediterranean, he’ll start rolling eastward. Or is the idea to keep him at bay for a few months while Egyptian arms flow in and the rebels get organized? Unless we plan on destroying his planes on the ground first, there’d better be plenty of anti-aircraft weapons in those shipments.

Another intriguing detail from Obama’s remarks. Who’s leading this mission?

We will provide the unique capabilities that we can bring to bear to stop the violence against civilians, including enabling our European allies and Arab partners to effectively enforce a no-fly zone. I have no doubt that the men and women of our military are capable of carrying out this mission. Once more, they have the thanks of a grateful nation and the admiration of the world…

It is not an action that we will pursue alone. Indeed, our British and French allies and members of the Arab League have already committed to take a leadership role in the enforcement of this resolution, just as they were instrumental in pursuing it.

That makes it sound like the British and French will be doing the actual raids with the U.S. in support, although if that were the case he surely would have elaborated on it in his remarks. What he’s doing here, I take it, is being deliberately ambiguous to suggest a subsidiary role knowing that intervention isn’t polling well among Americans. Whatever he can say to get U.S. fingerprints off the mission will make it not only more popular abroad but here as well. An iron American fist in a velvety European glove!

One more choice bit:

Now, here’s why this matters to us. Left unchecked, we have every reason to believe that Qadhafi would commit atrocities against his people. Many thousands could die. A humanitarian crisis would ensue.

The entire region could be destabilized, endangering many of our allies and partners.

The calls of the Libyan people for help would go unanswered. The democratic values that we stand for would be overrun.

Moreover, the words of the international community would be rendered hollow.

I’m amazed he threw in the bit about democratic values given that there’s no guarantee that the Libyan rebels will support democracy once they’ve taken care of Qaddafi. It’s a tribal society; it’ll go on being a tribal society when he’s gone, hopefully with some sort of parliament or congress where the tribes can confer, but whether tribal representatives will be elected is anyone’s guess. If democracy doesn’t happen, The One will be eating these words all the way to election day 2012. The part about destabilization is weird too considering that the big gripe among our “friends” in Riyadh is that it’s the White House that’s destabilizing the region by backing revolutionaries over old guard tyrants like Mubarak. In fact, the Journal had a must-read story just yesterday about how upheaval in Egypt and elsewhere is knocking off some of America’s counterterrorism allies and helping to spring dangerous jihadis from prison. If Qaddafi is ousted and Libya melts down and becomes an Afghanistan on the Mediterranean, that’ll be arguably as dangerous for us, our allies, and partners as Qaddafi is. And Obama will hear about that endlessly until election day, too. And rightly so.

He reportedly told his cabinet a few days ago that intervention here is “the greatest opportunity to realign our interests and our values.” That sounds amazingly Bush-ian, but I’m not sure what it means. Presumably, he thinks a pro-democratic humanitarian mission will so endear us to young Arab reformists that it’ll tilt the revolutionary zeitgeist in the region towards the west and away from the Islamists. Could be, but the Muslim Brotherhood is organizing in Egypt, Iran is angling to exploit the crisis in Bahrain, Hezbollah now effectively controls Lebanon, and god know what is set to emerge in Libya. Even the formerly pro-western powers in the Muslim world, like Turkey, are trending east, not west. Is knocking out Qaddafi and freaking out the Saudis and Jordanians with an emphatic pro-reform stance going to slow that tide?

Watch the clip, because one way or another, these words will matter next year. As I write this, Al Jazeera is reporting that Qaddafi’s troops are still advancing on Benghazi and might be within 50 km. Anecdotal reports claim that the regime is attacking other cities too, and that they’re actually stockpiling corpses to be displayed to the gullible press as victims of coalition bombing once the airstrikes begin. Note to The One: Now that we’re really going ahead with this, hurry up.

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If Qaddafi is ousted and Libya melts down and becomes an Afghanistan on the Mediterranean,

Jihad-with-a-view….Think of the travel opportunities and all that beachfront jihadi property.

dude, jihadbots in Afghanistan/Pakistan are now self-consciously looking around their caves and furtively comtemplating the opportunity to have a cave with a view of the Med….

opportunities.

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:15 PM

JohnGalt23 on March 18, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Or, what if they say Yes, but only after we start attacking Qaddafi?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:15 PM

It seems some African “humanitarian crises” are more important than others.

Darfur?

Hello?

Is this thing on?

catmman on March 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

“Let’s make it three”… President Obama

kevinkristy on March 18, 2011 at 5:13 PM

that’s like a 50% increase in the amount of wars we’ve got, lefties….whatchu think about that? Whatever happened to “COEXIST” in whackjob letters and ‘Stop this Endless War’

aw. maybe next year.

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Anyone know how much this crap sandwich is going to cost us?

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Insert witty screen name here on March 18, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Hey. As long as I can still get a Colt-45 from the trunk of a Fleetwood outta Overton, Florida, I’m all set for “gun control”.

betsyz on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

“This war is unwinable”

Avatar72 on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Darfur?

Hello?

Is this thing on?

catmman on March 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Clooney is going to get a call asking him to retask his satellite from the millions dead in Darfur to the hundreds dead in benghazi.

some Africans are more equal than others.

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 18, 2011 at 4:55 PM

It seems that the upstarts in Yemen are on their own too. Not that I think they’re any more or less deserving of the UN treatment, but what is the criteria for sticking our noses in to these ME nations?

To AllahP:

One more thing, as bad as PBHO has been, how will the GOP use this to haunt him when they also lack any coherent plan?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Anyone know how much this crap sandwich is going to cost us?

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

how fast do you think we can print 10 pallets of $100 bills?

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Wait, wasn’t this all the wrong, immoral when GWB did it? Its amazing what a D behind your name will let you do!

Sharr on March 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

And isn’t Libya in North Africa, not the Middle East?
Christien on March 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Let’s simplify the bourgeois geography: it’s called “Caliphate”

/

Rookie on March 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Super,us Canadians are committing half of our
Air Force to Libya!!(Lots of sarc)’
=============================================

Canada commits six fighter jets to help enforce Libyan no-fly zone
OTTAWA— From Friday’s Globe and Mail
Published Thursday, Mar. 17, 2011 11:36PM EDT
Last updated Friday, Mar. 18, 2011 1:12PM EDT
************************************************

The six CF-18 fighter jets Canada is sending to help enforce the new United Nations no-fly zone over Libya could leave as early as Friday to join an assembling international force, and will be based out of Southern Europe, possibly Italy. Ottawa will also send between 120 and 200 military personnel to support the planes.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-sending-six-fighter-jets-to-help-enforce-libyan-no-fly-zone/article1946899/

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Sharr on March 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

It was wrong when we had a national interest to preserve or advance. Since we have none now, it is a noble, moral war.

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:21 PM

We need a Musical Theme
************************

Top Gun – Highway to the Dangerzone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Memories…

Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that… this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.

Aaaack!

Fallon on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

how will the GOP use this to haunt him when they also lack any coherent plan?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

What GOP plan are you do you mean?

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth.

How come he didn’t stop the waves in Japan?

We’ll see if he stops all wars.

Schadenfreude on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Anyone know how much this crap sandwich is going to cost us?

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

how fast do you think we can print 10 pallets of $100 bills?

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Here. I’ll copy and paste…

Yes, we’re going to war in another Muslim country … we can’t even decide what to do with the two current wars. We can’t stand with Israel. We’re in debt up to our eyes. We have horrible leadership. Pray, hard, Americans.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I say we recycle Country Joe as in:

One, two, three what are we fighting for?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Exactly!

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM

What GOP plan are you do you mean?

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Sorry.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM

A Libyan spokesperson just declared that “all dead” were members of the opposition military. Gadaffyduck is looking out for you (civilians!).

Limerick on March 18, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Hmm. alJazeera:

6:24pm Speaking to Al Jazeera from Misurata, Mohamed Ali, a member of the opposition National Council in that city, describes a horrific scene. He says that shelling of the city has been ongoing continuously since about 2:00am.

Yes, there is no ceasefire in Misurata. Shells are landing all over the city right now, as we speak. I hope you can hear them in the background, I’ll move closer to the window so you can hear them. The murderous dictator has attacked the city this morning and started shelling since 2 o’clock in the morning, started the attack at 8 o’clock from three directions – east, west and southwest. And they were shooting their way into the centre of the city, which they haven’t managed.

“And they are still shelling the city as we speak …”I am in the medical centre right now. We have 18 civilian deaths, one of which is a two-and-a-half year old girl with her head cut off. It is brutal, murderous shelling of the Gaddafi regime.

a capella on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Heh…The Democratic Underground thread on this is sparse on comments, and no one mentioning Obama. What a difference an administration makes.

JetBoy on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Blood for oil! Bush, lied, my dog died….!!1!!!

Crap. Need new signs.

wccawa on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Is Obama getting the US involved to depose or to defend Khadafy? Do we know for sure? Or is Obama going to wait to see what the polls say?

Emperor Norton on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

Breaking
————

Libya says will not attack Benghazi under ceasefire
***************************************************
TRIPOLI (Reuters) – The presence of Libyan government forces around Benghazi does not violate ceasefire rules and the army has no plans to attack the eastern rebel stronghold, a senior foreign ministry official said on Friday.
(more………)

http://www.reuters.com/places/libya

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:24 PM

No seriously, what is it the GOP should have a coherent plan for?

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

What does it matter? The way D.C. plays around with figures, i.e. unemployment, national debt, the super duper gas millage on the Volt…who’s to say anymore? It’s up for grabs…just be persuasive and out-shout.

betsyz on March 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Is it too late to trademark “three-peat”?

Fallon on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

But the United States of America will [might] not stand idly by [much longer] in the fact of actions that undermine global peace and security [in this one instance].

A tough one to fix to match Obama’s actions.

gekkobear on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

s/b Cheap Trick – Mighty Wings

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Blood for oil! Bush, lied, my dog died….!!1!!!

Crap. Need new signs.

wccawa on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

wccawa:Need some Chanting verses,and Drum Circle,like
the Madison Goon Music!!(sarc).

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Commence with the preparation of the giant papier mache heads!

Cicero43 on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

His next book title? “On Becoming George Bush”

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:28 PM

We So Excited.

di butler on March 18, 2011 at 5:28 PM

@ted c! hhahaha

Great!

Stealing.

Now where is Tom Brokaw to say the media didn’t do their job?

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Has congress permitted this ?
Doesn’t it need to ?

Huffpo’s interesting, too, JB.

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM

They ought to take a stand on whether or not to go to war. In fact, they should have had a position a month ago. And they ought to have an idea of what our mission is. And they ought to have an idea of what we should do under various scenarios, such as Momo surviving or not. And finally, they ought to communicate that to us.

But they’re just as incoherent and afraid to commit as the WH, so how can they use PBHO’s failings against him down the road as AP suggests?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Heh…The Democratic Underground thread on this is sparse on comments, and no one mentioning Obama. What a difference an administration makes.

JetBoy on March 18, 2011 at 5:25 PM

They’re up to a whopping 13 now Jetboy, what a bunch of hypocrites.

Rovin on March 18, 2011 at 5:30 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM
======================================
s/b Cheap Trick – Mighty Wings

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

Christien:Excellent,the AfterBurners are lit now,haha!:)

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

He’s such a great president, he’s doing Carter’s second term and G-Dubs third, simultaneously.

skills.

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

War of Choice

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Where is the criticism for Obama’s “War for Oil”?

What would I have done? With leveraged credible threats from the US Navy the Libyans wouldn’t have stood by Qaddafy so no “Obama’s War”.

Yemen authorities apply the new “Obama approved” Qaddafy method and gun down 30. Why be a Mubarak when Obama promises to look the other way

DANEgerus on March 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM

War of Choice

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM

And no exit strategy!

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM

One more thing, as bad as PBHO has been, how will the GOP use this to haunt him when they also lack any coherent plan?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Exactly, the Republican President should have given the Republican Presidential response from the Republican Executive office…

But no, they don’t have a plan for their President to do anything either… the country does have a President for each party at all times that both have Commander in Chief powers; right?

They don’t?

So why would the Republicans have a plan for using the power of the Commander if Chief when they have no way to do anything even if they had a plan?

It’s not like the budget; where they could maybe get control of the House (where budgets originate) and at least start to fight one out…

I guess I’m confused MJBrutus; why would the Republicans have a plan for using power they can’t have for 2 years in an international incident that will be cleared up in months if not weeks (one way or another)?

Do they need a hypothetical plan for what they might do if they had the power; but they don’t so the plan doesn’t matter? Do they need a plan now for a situation that won’t be in place after the 2012 elections for whoever their candidate might be who (if elected) would have that power?

Does Congress get to deploy troops now and determine the exact force levels taking the CoC hat from the Executive Branch of Government?

(Sorry Cindy, I figured some more explanation and description would help show why we didn’t expect a plan from the GOP here… and of course I had to add the mockery and derision)

gekkobear on March 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Newsweek’s headline next week:
We’re all neo-cons now.

chimney sweep on March 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM
=======================
I say we recycle Country Joe as in:

One, two, three what are we fighting for?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:23 PM

MJBrutus:I’ll be honest,I don’t know one verse,of any
Anti-War phrase,except for the one you posted!:)

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

HEY, HEY, O-BAM-A!
HOW’D YOUR BRACKETS DO TODAY?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Que lefty screams about War for oil in 3..2..1..

Oh wait.

jawkneemusic on March 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Prism – Armageddon
****** **********

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBmvElD_0Ow

canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:35 PM

HEY, HEY, O-BAM-A!
HOW’D YOUR BRACKETS DO TODAY?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:34 PM

G0lfer in Chief is down in Rio… no comment.

MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:36 PM

They’re up to a whopping 13 now Jetboy, what a bunch of hypocrites.

Rovin on March 18, 2011 at 5:30 PM

I mean, it’s the usual “we need $$ for social programs, not war” stuff, and the fact that just over a dozen of some of the most rabid leftists on the lefty-est blog I know won’t even comment…but not one of them even mentions The One’s name.

I’d say I’m amazed…but it’s just so typical.

JetBoy on March 18, 2011 at 5:36 PM

gekkobear on March 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

It is called advice and consent. They have such a Constitutional duty and that means coming up with their own coherent objectives and limits.

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:37 PM

This should have been done a long time ago when Qadaffi was on the ropes… I’m a little iffy about doing it now(though leans towards a yes)…

ninjapirate on March 18, 2011 at 5:38 PM

So we’ll fight Libya but we wouldn’t do jack to help the Iranian protestors in 2009.
Makes total sense to me.

That’s because the Iranian protesters wanted to overthrow a (fellow) muslim dictator and install a secular pro-western style democracy friendly to the United States, and that is not allowed.

JFS61 on March 18, 2011 at 5:38 PM

He’s not sending U.S. troops into Libya, he is supporting the U.N. and NATO sending troops into Libya…

:o/

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Huffpo:
‘obama seems to be playing this situation about right… It’s easy to lurch into something.. It takes SMARTS (my caps) to wait and measure your shot’

Yup, it’s worked on ‘em.
Some are not too sure, tho.

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM

You’ve got to be kidding. This administration is truly idiotic. The only thing dumber than this administration is the 40%+ of the American public who support these idiot tools.

The time to go live on a mountain top in Utah or Montana is drawing ever closer … geesh.

deepdiver on March 18, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Huffpo:
‘obama seems to be playing this situation about right… It’s easy to lurch into something.. It takes SMARTS (my caps) to wait and measure your shot’

Yup, it’s worked on ‘em.
Some are not too sure, tho.

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Ha…I’d ask that commenter about congressional approval, like Bush got, but it’d be lost on him/her.

JetBoy on March 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Libya is a distraction from the real war in Afghanistan, right, Libs?

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canopfor on March 18, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:45 PM

And look at the recruiting tool we’re giving them. Every Muslim killed will result in 2 new AQ fighters. Right Libs?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

“This war is unwinable”

Avatar72 on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

“This war is lost.”

Goose, meet gander.

Bruno Strozek on March 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Resources diverted, we know AQ is in Af/Pak but we diverted all of our resources to Iraq Libya

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:48 PM

gekkobear on March 18, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Not a problem, I was trying to make sure that he was indeed expecting Congress in general and the Republicans in particular to have a separate comprehensive war plan. I’m sure there are no end to opinions, I was confused about the division of power.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

Now that we are all Muslim freedom fighters, earlier today I turned my keffiyeh 90 degrees and was with our brothers in Yemen. One o’clock comes a round and I started chewin dat khat…………..and now………………………………………………………………………………..I just don’t care . Inshallah baby! Allahu Akbar!

BL@KBIRD on March 18, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Anyone know how much this crap sandwich is going to cost us?
MeatHeadinCA on March 18, 2011 at 5:17 PM

However much it is, I know you won’t hear lefties say a damn word about it. Cause this is “Obama’s war”.

Vyce on March 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

What is the exit strategy? oh, wait this is Obama….nevermind

- Any lefty

tommer74 on March 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I have a bad feeling that, as per usual with this administration, it is too little too late.

RebeccaH on March 18, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I see a lot of Kossites are having difficulty wrapping their heads around this one:

Quote: “This is not like Iraq; we’re not invading Libya.”

Ummmm, talk about a distinction without a difference. Last I heard, imposing a ‘No Fly Zone’ is in fact an act of war. I guess it doesn’t count if you just invade with airplanes (and you’re a liberal).

In any event, Mr. Obama is taking some shit over at that site.

alwyr on March 18, 2011 at 5:52 PM

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:49 PM

LOL! So where do we stand? Do you not agree that the advice and consent duty requires the GOP leadership in the House at least to have a position what our objects and level of effort ought to be? Should they also not be responsible for oversight of the CinC’s conduct of this war?

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

JetBoy on March 18, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Hehe … I don’t know any nicks over there, and, frankly, rarely look.
Sure knew summa us be there, tho … LOL.
(I’m not a poster, btw)

pambi on March 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Obama’s trying to put countries into brackets.

MiddleEast Marx Madness

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Obama Lied, Libyans Died. Man, this is fun.

The Mega Independent on March 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Obama Lied, Libyans Died. Man, this is fun.

The Mega Independent on March 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Momo has no terrorist ties. Show us his WMD!

You’re right, it is cathartic :-)

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

No. We only have one CIC and we are not declaring war, which would be the province of Congress.

Article II, Section 2, paragraph 2 of the United States Constitution states:

[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Halp Us Jon Cary, We R Stuk In Libya!

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM

MiddleEast Marx Madness

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

I predict Kadafi makes it to the final four.

ted c on March 18, 2011 at 5:58 PM

And no exit strategy!

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM

Exit strategy?

Barry doesn’t even have an entrance strategy (unless “hey, it’s not me, it’s really the Europeans’ doing” counts).

AZCoyote on March 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM

MiddleEast Marx Madness

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 5:54 PM

I hate you.

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 5:59 PM

N E D A.

hillbillyjim on March 18, 2011 at 6:00 PM

Momo has no terrorist ties. Show us his WMD!

You’re right, it is cathartic :-)

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Obama has been planning on taking over this Muslim country for years!

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 6:01 PM

Libtards: Obama Buckled to Republicans Warmonger Pressure!!

…in 5…4…3…

cntrlfrk on March 18, 2011 at 6:02 PM

Brackets

Kudafy— 3/18-3/25
—————-Winner goes to Egypt
Hillary —

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Observation #1 A few people have pointed to Wisconsin as the ’3rd country in the Mid East’ we’re at war with. Actually, as everybody knows, Wisconsin is in the Midwest (Deja -vu from 1984: “We’ve never been at war with East Asia/we’ve always been at war with East Asia.”)

Observation #2 (and I hope I’m wrong on this one) As a transplanted Brit, I know how my ex-countrymen just love to “muddle through”, especially when it comes to war. So, if we’re expecting the Brits to “lead the charge” on this one – it could take a couple of weeks/months to get things underway.

alwyr on March 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM

You’re gonna be in big trouble little mister. I mean it. I’m gonna count to three and you’d better stop killing civilians. I’m not kidding.. one…two…I mean it….

vcferlita on March 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM

[frothing at the mouth] No Blood for Oil!

[veins popping eyes bulging] He’s murdering civilians. WARMONGER!

DeathB4Tyranny on March 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Now that we’ve dithered long enough that the rebels are largely defeated we will dither some more as OBlahBLahs friend lies about cease fires until the last 5% are deemed worth saving.

Too bad OBlahBlah doesn’t have the ability to lie like a bedwetter and get away with it like his dictator heros.

Too bad the American Presstitutes and Repugnantcan Party bravehearts are there to keep the Manchile HONEST.

Just too E f n bad isn’t it?

dhunter on March 18, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Where’s Osama?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Lefty airheads who spent the bulk of the last decade calling Bush a “war criminal” could not be reached for comment.

viking01 on March 18, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 5:56 PM

And shouldn’t we declare war? Bush got an AUMF for Iraq which was in essence such a declaration. Does Congress have oversight duties? Are you saying that Presidents now can just start and prosecute wars without Congressional involvement?

You must be reading one of them living Constitutions.
/sarc

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Has anyone read the article on Drudge, that’s titled “obama the weakest president”?
The comments are unbelievable and of the pages and pages, I can only find 1 that supports the inefectual “O”.
The article is from the UK, but I haven’t read 1 comment from across the pond. They all seem to be from the U.S.
Anyway, the comments are worth reading.

Bambi on March 18, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Obama and Dick Cheeney (Chrissy version) planned this.

faraway on March 18, 2011 at 6:08 PM

No blood for oil!

Kafir on March 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM

WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER!

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:09 PM

MJBrutus on March 18, 2011 at 5:53 PM

I think I understand what you mean and I’m not happy that The Won is in this position but I don’t want us to look any weaker than we already do. If Republicans have a better idea, they need to express them in private. If asked to declare war, whole other ball game. I didn’t like the Left’s behavior with W and I don’t think the Right should second guess in public. At least not at this stage.

Cindy Munford on March 18, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Who Would Jesus Bomb?

Christien on March 18, 2011 at 6:11 PM

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