PPP poll: Dead heat between Romney and Gingrich if Palin and Huckabee don’t run

posted at 6:57 pm on March 15, 2011 by Allahpundit

Is there any realistic scenario where Palin and Huckabee sit this election out? Mitt vs. Newt would, I imagine, be an agonizing dilemma for lots of social conservatives; with so many of their votes up for grabs, either Huck or Sarahcuda would feel compelled to dive in and seize the momentum.

If neither Huckabee nor Palin runs you have a tie at the top between Gingrich and Romney at 24%, with Ron Paul in 3rd place at 12%. Gingrich gains ground because 35% of Palin’s voters would go to him while only 19% of them would move to the Romney camp if she didn’t run. More of Huckabee’s voters would go to Gingrich than Romney also but it’s by a much closer margin, just 26-23…

Now let’s consider the possibility that Huckabee doesn’t run, but Palin still does. Romney takes the slightest of leads in that instance with 20% to 19% for Palin, 18% for Gingrich, and 12% for Paul who moves up into double digits in that scenario. Those numbers aren’t that much different than when Huckabee is in the mix because his voters distribute their support pretty evenly if he’s out- 21% to Palin, 20% to Gingrich, 19% to Romney, and a surprisingly high 15% to Paul.

Finally we looked at what would happen if Palin didn’t run, but Huckabee still did. In that instance Huckabee and Gingrich lead the way at 22% and 20% respectively followed by Romney at 18% and no one else in double digits. There are very few Palin supporters who like Romney, so that’s why Gingrich would vault him with her out of the picture- 32% of Palin voters list Huckabee as their second choice to 25% for Gingrich and only 10% for Romney.

No surprise. Romney’s always needed lots of candidates in the race who appeal to the base (or elements of the base) so that grassroots votes end up being split while he locks up centrists. Any one-on-one match-up — against Huck, against Pawlenty, against Gingrich, and maybe even against Palin — is bad news for him. Undeniably it’s bad news if it’s any of those first three, since it would turn the primary into a referendum on RomneyCare and whether Republicans can, in good conscience, nominate the man responsible for it. And … that would be a bad bet for Mitt:

A Romney/Palin race would be more complicated because each side would be straining to turn it into a referendum on the other. For Palinistas the key would be RomneyCare, of course, and for Mittheads it would be Palin’s qualification and electability. He’s in roughly the same position in the primary, in other words, as Obama is in the general — there are many reasons to dislike him so he desperately needs an opponent whom people might dislike more. That’s why even T-Paw, with his single-digit polling, is potentially a mortal threat to him if they end up going head-to-head in Iowa or South Carolina.

But as I say, there’s no chance that Palin and Huckabee both choose not to run. In fact, sources close to Huck claim that he’s now 50/50 on jumping in. And no wonder, as encouraging polls continue to pile up.


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How clever- she gave her leftist antagonists trying to force her out of office exactly what they wanted, ….blahblahblah

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:13 PM

Wrong, hollow.

If she had stayed put, and allowed them to continue taking pot shots at her like a fish in a barrel… if she had stayed trapped and mired in debt with her legislative agenda stalled… if she were unable to speak out against the left and unable to leave AK to help conservatives get elected…

If she ended her governorship an empty shell of what she was before…

THAT would have been giving them what they wanted.

Instead of staying a perpetual target, she changed tactics, moved to higher ground and is now able to meticulously rhetorically snipe off precise targets…and lob volleys at other targets.

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM

The Governor of Alaska wins hands down, and she energizes America in more ways than one.

onlineanalyst on March 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM

From her disapproval ratings, it appears that she has managed to energize America… into disliking her.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM

Hitting the American people with higher gas prices like this is essentially a hidden tax and a transfer of wealth to foreign regimes who are providing us the energy we refuse to provide for ourselves. Like inflation, higher energy prices are a hidden tax on Americans who are struggling to make ends meet. And these high gas prices will be felt in the form of higher food prices due to higher transportation costs. Energy is connected to everything in our economy. Access to affordable and secure energy is key to economic growth, which in turn is key to job growth. Energy is the building block of our economy. The President is purposely weakening that building block and weakening our country.

2012 can’t come soon enough.

- Sarah Palin
unseen on March 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM

I knew she would hit him and hit him hard. We Cannot Spare This Woman, She Fights!

CUDA!!

Naturally Curly on March 15, 2011 at 8:27 PM

As much as I’d like to convince myself otherwise, I don’t see a radio talk show host and former CEO with no experience in elected office or the military beating an incumbent President though.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:06 PM

That’s where Allen West comes in. Perfect running mate.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM

From her disapproval ratings, it appears that she has managed to energize America… into disliking her.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM

I follow leaders. Not polls.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2011 at 8:30 PM

Instead of staying a perpetual target, she changed tactics, moved to higher ground and is now able to meticulously rhetorically snipe off precise targets…and lob volleys at other targets.

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM

Being a cable news contributor is “higher ground” than a governor? It pays better, I suppose, but the bottom line is that she resigned her first and only qualifying political office in response to ethics charges.

There’s no way to spin that in a way that’s going to come across as anything other than a negative in the eyes of the general public. That the charges were (mostly) bogus, that the law (which she championed) prevented her from raising money for lawyers, that the President doesn’t have to deal with such charges- none of them are going to resonate well with the public.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

From her disapproval ratings, it appears that she has managed to energize America… into disliking her.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM

You are underestimating her, Hollowpoint. Playing into her hands. She will remain a political force for the forseeable future. I’m not sure that she will want to run; she may prefer to remain the one and only KingMaker that the GOP has.

She’ll make an awesome Energy Secretary or Commerce Secretary.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

What’s Obowma going to run on…

… his record?

Seven Percent Solution on March 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

Haven’t you heard? ObaMao is “above the fray.”

onlineanalyst on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

That’s where Allen West comes in. Perfect running mate.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Running mates don’t have much impact on elections.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

I’m not sure that she will want to run; she may prefer to remain the one and only KingMaker that the GOP has.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

In all fairness, I’m not sure that she won’t want to run. She hasn’t said so. So I’m keeping my options open until we know for sure one way or another.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Haven’t you heard? ObaMao is “above the fray.”

onlineanalyst on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

They’re overusing that phrase. Whenever I think of “fray” I think of old ratty cut off jean shorts on a stinky fat hairy guy. And obama is just above his fray.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM

Running mates don’t have much impact on elections.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

LOL. This one would have a tremendous impact.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:33 PM

That’s where Allen West comes in. Perfect running mate.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Though I’m a T-Pawwwrrrr I like both Cain and West-a lot..
Couple of problems though. Cain had his bass handed to him in the one statewide race he ran. that doesn’t speak well of his national electability. Also-because both gentlemen are conservative rather than leftist-they’d be lucky to pick-up 10-15 % of the black vote.
It’s wrong and not fair…but it is.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

That’s where Allen West comes in. Perfect running mate.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM

And no more race card.

Knucklehead on March 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

There’s no way to spin that in a way that’s going to come across as anything other than a negative in the eyes of the general public. That the charges were (mostly) bogus, that the law (which she championed) prevented her from raising money for lawyers, that the President doesn’t have to deal with such charges- none of them are going to resonate well with the public.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

You know, somehow I don’t see the general public being quite as unreasonable as you are about it.

Aitch748 on March 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Being a cable news contributor is “higher ground” than a governor?

I’m using a war metaphor. She left the kill zone and moved to higher ground so she could effectively fight back.

It pays better, I suppose, but the bottom line is that she resigned her first and only qualifying political office in response to ethics charges.

Sure it’s the bottom line. To people with the attention span of a gnat. You choose to be ignorant. No one can help you with that.

There’s no way to spin that in a way that’s going to come across as anything other than a negative in the eyes of the general public. That the charges were (mostly) bogus, that the law (which she championed) prevented her from raising money for lawyers, that the President doesn’t have to deal with such charges- none of them are going to resonate well with the public.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Well, see, yes. It can be “spun” as a positive. Because it is a positive.

She saved Alaska time and money, she saved her family from crushing debt and she played a big role in the 2010 election cycle, which she would not have been able to do otherwise.

It’s funny…I don’t see people flipping out over Newt quitting, or Huntsman quitting…or even Obama quitting to run for President. Only Palin. As though context is meaningless (for her only of course).

And the charges were entirely bogus.

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM

Running mates don’t have much impact on elections.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:32 PM

Are you serious??

In 2008, the majority of republicans voted for Palin instead of McCain.
Obviously you don’t think before you speak.

tencole on March 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

And no more race card.

Knucklehead on March 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Indeed. It would aid in undoing the damage to race relations that Obama and his pip squeak Holder have foisted on this nation. A generation of damage to race relations is the fault of POTUS, his FLOTUS, his TOTUS and his AGOTUS.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:41 PM

I suppose you believe that she’s the only politician on the planet who writes all of her own material…

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:19 PM

No, but I also don’t see anyone else having it pointed out. You think Obama worte his tuson speech? Or his SOTU speech? Or the gun grabbing op-ed this weekend. I did not see anyone saying it was ghostwritten. I love your lefty double standards…..they ar eso nice.

There are millions of people who believe in smaller government, domestic energy production, low taxes, less intrusive regulation, etc. That doesn’t mean they’d all make strong candidates

Yeah but not a one besides Palin as a possible candidate to win the GOP nomination

unseen on March 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:31 PM

If that is the only talking point Mitt’s fans have it’s no wonder they visit Daily Kos and steal their talking points to attack Gov Palin

unseen on March 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Mark Levin links to Palin’s latest volley from Fort Wasilla:

Mark Levin: “Sarah Palin’s latest post. She’s way smarter than Obama.”

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

I don’t know if this has been mentioned on Hot Air, but SEIU is now a polling partner of PPP.

http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/03/great-news-seiu-to-partner-with-daily.html

takeamericabackin10 on March 15, 2011 at 7:06 PM

Now we know who they want us to run and it isn’t Palin.

wi farmgirl on March 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

I don’t like either of them for POTUS, neither are solid conservative, ranked with D- on NumbersUSA.

oldernslower on March 15, 2011 at 8:58 PM

I’m still hoping Pence changes his mind.

Rational Thought on March 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Me too.

wi farmgirl on March 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

I see Sarah hit Obama on gas prices today. Crickets from the rest of them.

AZCON on March 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Herman Cain, 2012

Dandapani on March 15, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Tell you what… I’ll let voters decide between actual, declared and running candidates in the primaries.

This X is doing better than Y without A or B is getting a bit stale. The MFM wants a ‘front runner’ to first push and then bash.

Screw ‘em. We don’t need the MFM to ‘help’ on this sort of thing.

ajacksonian on March 15, 2011 at 9:16 PM

Mark Levin links to Palin’s latest volley from Fort Wasilla:

Mark Levin: “Sarah Palin’s latest post. She’s way smarter than Obama.”

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 8:48 PM

Thanks for the link.

Geochelone on March 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

You know, somehow I don’t see the general public being quite as unreasonable as you are about it.

Aitch748 on March 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

The general public that overwhelmingly disapproves of her already is going to give her a pass on resigning? Get real.

Like most of you, I acknowledge that the charges were generally bogus and motivated purely by politics. I know that the law in place at the time prevented her from raising money for her defense.

Given that every politician charged with ethics violations- legitimately or not- claims to be innocent victim of a political witch hunt, I wouldn’t expect a lot of those unfamiliar with the circumstances (i.e., most people) to uncritically accept her side of the story.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM

When are you guys and gals going to realie that if you ignore morons they go away?

bw222 on March 15, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Yeah but not a one besides Palin as a possible candidate to win the GOP nomination

unseen on March 15, 2011 at 8:44 PM

They all have about the same chance of winning the general election in 2012 as Palin.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Who are two people who won’t be president in 2013?

Alex: That is correct. Next category.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM

You’ve got it bad, don’t you. The repeated posts, the monotonous memes, the second-rate sarcasm. Buck up. You’ve got nothing to fear. No matter what it is you do for a living, I guarantee you’ll do better under a Palin presidency.

rrpjr on March 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Are you serious??

In 2008, the majority of republicans voted for Palin instead of McCain.
Obviously you don’t think before you speak.

tencole on March 15, 2011 at 8:39 PM

The “majority of Republicans” are not blog commenters. Most were either voting straight-ticket Republican, against Obama, or for McCain.

No doubt some voted for McCain only because of Palin, but likewise others voted against him because of her. In any case, McCain still lost quite badly.

Running mates generally don’t have much impact except to provide a temporary post-nomination bump in the polls. If voters don’t consider the presidential nominee to be qualified (which would likely be the case with Cain), they’re not going to be swayed by a more experienced VP nominee.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Thanks for the link.

Geochelone on March 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM

Sure thing, Geo.

Notice Palin ends the piece with this: “2012 can’t come soon enough.”

All I could think is…she’s SO running. ;)

powerpro on March 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM

Why doesn’t Obama just put on a pair of sockpuppets for the debates? I’m as likely to vote for a sockpuppet as I am for Grinch or Rummy.

Browncoatone on March 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM

You’ve got it bad, don’t you. The repeated posts, the monotonous memes, the second-rate sarcasm. Buck up. You’ve got nothing to fear. No matter what it is you do for a living, I guarantee you’ll do better under a Palin presidency.

rrpjr on March 15, 2011 at 9:27 PM

Sure, until the alarm clock wakes me up.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:33 PM

I don’t put too much stock in polls like this at this point, but Romney isn’t trouncing Gingrich, and Romney’s the “frontrunner”? And he’s going to whip Obama in the general election? LOL Puh-leeeez. Why isn’t there a “Romney is unelectable” meme?

ddrintn on March 15, 2011 at 9:38 PM

The general public that overwhelmingly disapproves of her already is going to give her a pass on resigning? Get real.

Like most of you, I acknowledge that the charges were generally bogus and motivated purely by politics. I know that the law in place at the time prevented her from raising money for her defense.

Given that every politician charged with ethics violations- legitimately or not- claims to be innocent victim of a political witch hunt, I wouldn’t expect a lot of those unfamiliar with the circumstances (i.e., most people) to uncritically accept her side of the story.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:24 PM

You know, if America truly hates this woman, you can relax. Or are you one of those who thinks that Palin WILL win the GOP primary overwhelmingly but then will go on to lose to President Feckless in all 57 states? Even if she brings her formidable and detailed grasp of energy policy to bear on The Hapless One during the debates? Or will America just be convinced that she’s stupid and therefore has to be controlled by a puppeteer off-stage whenever she says something smart and full of detail?

It just amazes me that not only do you talk as if the polls were gospel (I think they’re nonsense this far from the election) but that you talk as if they’re set in stone, that her numbers CANNOT get better no matter what she does or how well she does it from this point on, even though the election is 20 months away and Herman Cain and somebody named Buddy Roemer are the only two who seem to have actually declared themselves candidates.

Again, I don’t see her resignation as a showstopper. Why would it be? The ethics charges weren’t for bribery or corruption or anything; they were for things like wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and for traveling out of the state. Incredibly inane stuff like that. Yeah, you understand all that, but you don’t think a simple point like that can be made to the public?

Aitch748 on March 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM

PALIN IS RUNNING

stenwin77 on March 15, 2011 at 10:02 PM

PALIN IS RUNNING

stenwin77 on March 15, 2011 at 10:02 PM

I’ll need bright-line proof before I believe it, but I do hope you’re right.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2011 at 10:03 PM

Who wins the morality test? And just how white can Calista bleach her dark hair?

Philly on March 15, 2011 at 10:11 PM

2012 can’t come soon enough.

– Sarah Palin’s ghostwriter

unseen on March 15, 2011 at 8:00 PM

Fixed it for ya.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:04 PM

I suppose you believe that she’s the only politician on the planet who writes all of her own material…

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Interesting, tactic there troll. On the one hand you erroneously claim she doesn’t write her own stuff. THEN you say she’s not the only politician who does.

Fact is, she does indeed write her own stuff. Oh, she might grab Bristol, when she’s handy, to help her gather some links, but she writes it all herself.

BTW, that latest FB post is chocked full of links that backs up EVERYTHING she says.

Read it all (and a little more) here.

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:11 PM

That’s where Allen West comes in. Perfect running mate.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Yeah, for Sarah Palin!

Herman Cain is a wonderful man, but he’s not even close to being qualified to be President. He not only has no experience, worse, he has no record.

The man says all of the right stuff, but so do most of the people who post here at Hot Air. They aren’t qualified either.

The problem with Cain, is for all of the wonderful talk, there is no there, there. The man has no record to PROVE that he can actually DO something.

Palin has a 20 year record of walking the walk. She has a record of actually DOING things. Big things.

She doesn’t just talk about doing things, she’s actually done them.

I like Herman Cain, in fact, I was talking about him before most ever heard of him, but not as a candidate for POTUS.

That’s crazy talk!

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:17 PM

If Sarah Palin doesn’t run we’ve got a serious problem.

sinsing on March 15, 2011 at 10:17 PM

If Sarah Palin doesn’t run we’ve got a serious problem.

sinsing on March 15, 2011 at 10:17 PM

No we don’t. Please bear in mind, I am a Sarah Palin supporter. That said, I think it would be wise to consider what we should do if she decides not to run or washes out. To ignore those possibilities is just plain foolish.

gryphon202 on March 15, 2011 at 10:21 PM

And no more race card.

Knucklehead on March 15, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Indeed. It would aid in undoing the damage to race relations that Obama and his pip squeak Holder have foisted on this nation. A generation of damage to race relations is the fault of POTUS, his FLOTUS, his TOTUS and his AGOTUS.

Key West Reader on March 15, 2011 at 8:41 PM

You two need to put the crack pipe down.

You think the left won’t viciously attack Cain because he’s black? How stupid are you? They are already attacking him.

Hell, no matter how bad the attacks get, the media would cover them up, so no one will ever know just what racist POSs they are.

You just had a bunch of freaks calling for the torture and murder of a black Supreme Court Justice and his WIFE, did it get covered? Only by Conservatives.

If Justice Thomas was a liberal, it would have been the ONLY news reported for a month straight!

Conservatives don’t need “human shields” they don’t work for us anyway. What we need is proven ideas and proven leadership. Not unproven vanity campaigns.

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM

I’m still hoping Pence changes his mind.

Rational Thought on March 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM

Me too.

wi farmgirl on March 15, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Me three.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

If Sarah Palin doesn’t run we’ve got a serious problem.

sinsing on March 15, 2011 at 10:17 PM

I agree. No one else has the balls to do what needs to be done. No one else has the experience to navigate through the rough waters in DC and come out on the other side.

There are other actual Conservatives who may run, Cain, Bachmann, but they don’t stand a chance in hell of winning, and neither have the experience or PROVEN ability to lead.

It may be that Palin won’t run, but from the way she keeps slamming Obama, I find that a hard sell.

She WANTS to fight Obama.

People forget just how competitive Sarah Palin is. How she thrives on competition. 2012 will be the biggest, most important election in all of our lifetimes. It will determine the future of the country. Whether it survives or ceases to exist.

You REALLY think she’s going to sit this one out?

Me either.

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Me three.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 15, 2011 at 10:34 PM

Pence is doing the SMART thing. He’s going to be Indiana’s next Governor. Get some hands on experience, PROVE that he can handle an executive position. Then if he wants to run for POTUS once he’s matured, he’ll have something.

My biggest problem with Pence isn’t his total lack of experience, it’s the fact he sponsored an amnesty bill.

We can do much better than him.

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM

You two need to put the crack pipe down.

You think the left won’t viciously attack Cain because he’s black? How stupid are you? They are already attacking him.
gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Not half as stupid as you fatboy. I can’t wait to see your fat head explode is she decides not to run. You’ll be the laughing stock of HA.

Knucklehead on March 15, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Pence is doing the SMART thing. He’s going to be Indiana’s next Governor. Get some hands on experience, PROVE that he can handle an executive position. Then if he wants to run for POTUS once he’s matured, he’ll have something.

My biggest problem with Pence isn’t his total lack of experience, it’s the fact he sponsored an amnesty bill.

We can do much better than him.

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM

He’s going to be a terrific governor.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 15, 2011 at 10:58 PM

Is there any realistic scenario where Palin and Huckabee sit this election out? Mitt vs. Newt would, I imagine, be an agonizing dilemma for lots of social conservatives; with so many of their votes up for grabs…

I won’t be agonizing at all. Neither will get my vote. I’m not voting for the lesser of two evils anymore. If the Repubs want my vote, then they will need to nominate a real conservative… not one of these pansies.

dominigan on March 15, 2011 at 11:12 PM

gary4205 on March 15, 2011 at 10:36 PM

Absolutely!

dominigan on March 15, 2011 at 11:12 PM

The “majority of Republicans” are not blog commenters. Most were either voting straight-ticket Republican, against Obama, or for McCain.

Hollowpoint on March 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM

That’s funny. Almost all the Republicans I know voted for Palin, not McCain… and I’m the only blog commenter in the bunch.

In fact, others (and myself) almost didn’t vote at all once McStupid decided to shoot his mouth off (aimed squarely at his foot) and suspend his campaign to go vote for TARP. What a stupid, STUPID thing to do! I’m surprised Palin had the strength to drag McBoatAnchor as close to the finish line as she did!

dominigan on March 15, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Not half as stupid as you fatboy. I can’t wait to see your fat head explode is she decides not to run. You’ll be the laughing stock of HA.

Knucklehead on March 15, 2011 at 10:51 PM

That ship has sailed weeks ago.

Hollowpoint on March 16, 2011 at 1:10 AM

That’s funny. Almost all the Republicans I know voted for Palin, not McCain… and I’m the only blog commenter in the bunch.

In fact, others (and myself) almost didn’t vote at all once McStupid decided to shoot his mouth off (aimed squarely at his foot) and suspend his campaign to go vote for TARP. What a stupid, STUPID thing to do! I’m surprised Palin had the strength to drag McBoatAnchor as close to the finish line as she did!

dominigan on March 15, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Almost all the people you know? With such an enormous sample size, it no doubt represents the other 50 million people who voted. I stand corrected.

Hollowpoint on March 16, 2011 at 1:11 AM

Again, I don’t see her resignation as a showstopper. Why would it be? The ethics charges weren’t for bribery or corruption or anything; they were for things like wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and for traveling out of the state. Incredibly inane stuff like that. Yeah, you understand all that, but you don’t think a simple point like that can be made to the public?

Aitch748 on March 15, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Wow. Just… wow.

Never become a political advisor. What would your campaign slogan be? “Vote Palin! She wasn’t accused of bribery, just little stuff!”

No, that’s too long. How about “Palin for President 2012-2014.5″? (shamelessly stolen from a commenter on Yahoo)

I said it the day she resigned (back before I got tired of defending her), and I’ll say it now- her resignation ruined any chance at becoming President unless she first wins elective office elsewhere. Wish otherwise all you like, but there’s no getting around it.

Hollowpoint on March 16, 2011 at 1:19 AM

Huckabee RINO
Romney RINO
Gingrich Damaged Goods non repairable
Palin Resigned without finishing one term as Governor and is a lightning rod for everything she says or does.

old war horse on March 16, 2011 at 3:45 AM

All this speculation is great sport, but it is about as productive as the theological argument from the Middle Ages over how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.

The history of nominating contests for the party out of the White House tells us we probably aren’t even talking seriously about the one who will emerge and win it. Sure, things move faster than they used to in politics these days, but unknowns or little-knowns have a way of surprising the field. A year before their nominations, Goldwater, Nixon, McGovern, Carter, Dukakis, Clinton, and Obama were not considered serious contenders.

Judging by the intense dislike (or in Palin’s case, intense belief she couldn’t win the general) of the major names like Romney, Gingrich, and Huckabee, it seems quite likely someone will emerge who has the advantage of not turning off major segments of the primary electorate. Of those being considered now at all, Pawlenty probably most closely fits that bill – but it is WAY too early to tell.

Adjoran on March 16, 2011 at 4:09 AM

What would your campaign slogan be? “Vote Palin! She wasn’t accused of bribery, just little stuff!”

No, that’s too long.

Hollowpoint on March 16, 2011 at 1:19 AM

Well. That answers that question. Apparently goldfish have a longer attention span than regular Americans, in Hollowpoint’s opinion.

Of course, that would mean that no Republican has any chance at all in 2012.

Aitch748 on March 16, 2011 at 6:07 AM

T-Paw/Rubio 2012…

mjbrooks3 on March 16, 2011 at 6:27 AM

Well well, Hollownoggin the Rombot is fouling another Palin thread it appears.

james23 on March 16, 2011 at 8:43 AM

Mitt v Newt for the GOP nomination is a doomsday scenario for the GOP. If those are your front runners, it is only because a third party on the right has emerged to ensure the end of the GOP.

james23 on March 16, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Pablo Snooze: I like you better when you post as Ninjapirate.

Kataklysmic on March 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM

Sorry to disappoint you, but it’s just me. I just don’t spend that much time here to have two names.

Pablo Snooze on March 16, 2011 at 9:23 AM

Hollowpoint 1:19 am

that’s really funny

phew!

Sonosam on March 16, 2011 at 9:28 AM

PPP polls are chunky excrement, but if it helps convince Palin to run, bully for them.

SKYFOX on March 16, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Romney wins. He and Gingrich are both intelligent butRomney has the backers and the money.

Their baggage is mixed. Some here say Romneycare is a problem, (I don’t think so) but values voters don’t value Gingrich cheating on two different wives. That’s a deeply rooted character flaw.

scotash on March 17, 2011 at 1:23 AM

NO NO NO Doesn’t anyone remember 2008? We already LOST to an old man with young bleached plastic wife. Definition of stupid: doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results.

AReadyRepub on March 17, 2011 at 1:39 AM

Work on Paul Ryan. Sounds like a winner.

AReadyRepub on March 17, 2011 at 1:40 AM

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