and there are things which are UN-important!!

Can we expect a sternly-worded letter to the Lybian air force in order to support the UN’s “no fly” policy…by sometime next year?

BTW, hate to tell you all I told you so, but I called this days ago. Too late. There is no real benefit or even protection to the rebels at this point by going kinetic on the Libyan Air Force.

hawkdriver on March 15, 2011 at 8:05 PM

I’m right there with you. Within days of this starting, with everyone here saying we should do this military thing or we should do that economic thing, I said obama would not do one damn thing. There is no way he’s going to lift a finger against a good friend of his pastor and a fellow traveler he’d like to emulate.

BryanS drooled: “Libya is not our problem. Qaddafi was not our SOB“

Here are a few of Kaddafi’s clear ‘casus belli’ against America and our NATO allies.

Munich Olympic Massacre
Constable Fletcher Murder
Rome/Vienna Airport Massacres
Berlin Discoteque Massacre
PA103 Massacre
UTA772 Massacre
IRA proxy massacres
EU Nurse Prison Sextortion
Swiss hostage extortion

Please explain how justice for the families (orphans, widows, aging parents) of innocent American victims are not vital American interests.

/q.e.d.

The issue for Americans is whether we have the will and moral courage to address Kaddafi’s long train of abuses against the families of innocent American victims (orphans, widows, aging parents).

Libyan officials have now confirmed that Kaddafi (personally) masterminded the Lockerbie massacre.

“The orders were given by Gaddafi himself… This evidence is in our hands and we have documents that prove what I have said and we are ready to hand them over to the international criminal court.“

The fig leaf has been stripped away. Obama has NO excuse for continued inaction.

Nemo me impune lacessit?

What would quantify as anything the UN has done as a success or victory?

BryanS on March 15, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Pan Am 103.

Obama was right to not get involved. But his execution of the policy was pulled off in a way that caused the most amount of damage possible to our credibility.

Thanks U.N. and POTUS “Present!!”

sharrukin on March 15, 2011 at 10:00 PM

He has not been involved in any terror attacks since the Pan Am attack. He is not likely to try anything like that again.

So, no that does not qualify as a national interest of ours.

He NEEDS to sell his oil. Especially so since he has ruined and impoverished so much of his country and needs to pay off his supporters now more than ever!

So, no that does not qualify as a national interest of ours.

You say has poison gas but have no proof.

So, no that does not qualify as a national interest of ours.

I’m not saying we should run away, I’m saying we shouldn’t put our soldiers, sailors and airmen in harm’s way again based on a desire for revenge.

MJBrutus on March 15, 2011 at 9:55 PM

So we should just take whatever terror attacks Daffy wants to throw at us and bear it? I don’t think so. He should have been taken out long ago and this is a golden opportunity to do so.

Yes we need the oil flowing and given that Daffy is unstable and will very likely be bent on revenge we should go with what is behind door number two.

He still has poison gas stocks and who knows what else.

Run away and hide if you want but the world will still be there regardless of how far you go.

Oil which we need flowing given current events.

Then leave the bastard in charge. The sooner the rebellion ends the sooner it flows again.

Revenge for Pan AM 103.

That’s a reason for war?

Seizure of the poison gas and other stuff they have which we want out of the hands of either side.

He already gave up his WMD’s after Reagan lit him up, remember?

Destruction of the Libyan air force which keeps it out of the hands of either side.

And that serves our interest because?

sharrukin on March 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Sorry, but these are a list of excuses for why you want his worthless a$$ to assume room temp. I would like that too. But none of that passes for a national interest and unless we have a strong enough interest in that outcome we have no business going to war.

And to those banging the war drums, we should do this because?

I used to think that it was only liberals who clamored for war when we had no interest at stake.

MJBrutus on March 15, 2011 at 9:41 PM

Oil which we need flowing given current events.

Revenge for Pan AM 103.

Seizure of the poison gas and other stuff they have which we want out of the hands of either side.

Destruction of the Libyan air force which keeps it out of the hands of either side.

I used to think that it was only liberals who clamored for war when we had no interest at stake.

So Obama can claim he did everything he could, and can blame the Germans, Russians and Chinese for Gaddafi’s reprisals against the rebels.

And the MSM will carry that meme.

Wethal on March 15, 2011 at 8:35 PM

..Which works for me.Nothing could help the GOP more than having it understood that Obama basis his National Security on the inept UN.
Obama wants to use them for cover so that he does not have to take a leadership role….but in so doing..he gets stuck with the image of appeasement and weakness.The press can only cover up so much.
Obama promised that his Presidency would be a time when “the rise of the oceans began to slow and the Planet began to heal”……..

………instead we got war,revolution,poverty,debt,and massive unemployment…….

Thanks for the “Hope and Change” Mr. back nine….

Smoke coming out of Reactor#4!

Japan Live TV.

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv43386411

But the U.N. should pay us for it.

paulsur on March 15, 2011 at 8:19 PM

Haaa Haaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Gasp Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Gosh durn it! Did we accidentally take out the Chinese embassy again?!

John the Libertarian on March 15, 2011 at 8:53 PM

John the Libertarian:Sounds good!:)
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Just take out Khadafy
A Predator can do the job
March 5, 2011
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Slaughtering his own people and mocking the world’s pleas for peace, Libya’s Moammar Khadafy can only be stopped by force. President Obama is comfortable using Predator drone strikes to kill terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan; why not do the same with Khadafy?

So far, the only air-power option on the table is establishing a “no-fly zone.” But seeking UN Security Council approval for that risks a veto by China or Russia. Even if we ignored the UN, we’d need to use NATO facilities to make the zone work — and that means getting the approval of NATO’s members. The Turkish prime minister has said he would oppose such a move.

A no-fly zone also creates political problems for Obama. He came to power promising to end two wars, not to start a new one. “Let’s just call a spade a spade,” Defense Secretary Robert Gates said. “A no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya.”

There are practical problems, too. Pilots patrolling a no-fly zone would be targeted by Libya’s surface-to-air missiles and radar-guided anti-aircraft guns; death or capture is a real possiblity.

Collateral damage to civilians is likely — and friendly fire is a real risk. On April 14, 1994, two US helicopters were mistakenly shot down over Iraq by US planes, killing 26.

Besides, no-fly zones only stop air attacks, they don’t stop violence on the ground, as our “no-fly zone” experience in Bosnia shows. A single Predator strike could stop the civil war and save lives on the ground.
(more……….)

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/just_take_out_khadafy_Mv572R5wC23plCPNNMSq7H#ixzz1GioVdLaV

but what I don’t understand is the tactic of talking tough while fully intending to let this cretin steamroll his opponents.

Obama’s whole Presidency has been him saying one thing but doing another.Having the press in his pockets and his followers on bended knee help him get away with this.

This just exposes all the “UN/liberal intellectuals” for the empty suits that they are.Once again while slaughter is happening,all the UN and Obama’s can do is offer platitudes and empty rhetoric.
In the end…they have done nothing but stand by and allow dictators and terrorist to carry out their mass murder and power grabs while they “act” all concerned and “speak” about consequences.

The UN,Obama,and liberals in general are nothing but a joke who care more about their personal power and gain than they do about actually having the backbone and intelligence to actually accomplish something good for humanity.

Can we just stop paying these twits as it is a useless Transnational Progressive organization that can’t tell the difference between sh*t and shinola?

“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away”?

Apparently the same saying goes for who look to the USA for help while fighting and dieing for their freedom.