Video: The disgusting terrorist attack in Itamar

posted at 1:36 pm on March 14, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

How do you get a celebration cooking in Gaza? According to Ynet News, slaughtering an Israeli family in Itamar brings out the joy in Palestinians — and not for the first time. Gazans flocked to the streets and handed out candy to celebrate the brutal stabbing deaths of a five members of a family, including a three-month-old infant:

Gaza residents from the southern city of Rafah hit the streets Saturday to celebrate the terror attack in the West Bank settlement of Itamar where five family members were murdered in their sleep, including three children.

Residents handed out candy and sweets, one resident saying the joy “is a natural response to the harm settlers inflict on the Palestinian residents in the West Bank.”

According to one report, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade — an arm of Fatah, of which Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas is a member — claimed responsibility for the butchery:

According to an unverified report, Fatah’s military wing – the al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades – claimed responsibility for the attack. A group spokesman told a Palestinian news agency that a terror cell infiltrated the settlement of Itamar and committed the attack.

The spokesperson stressed that the attack “came as a response to Israel’s continues hostile policy toward the Palestinian people.”

Philip Klein notes that Palestinian media has a much different take on the, er, incident:

“I don’t believe that the incident in Itamar is an act of resistance, but rather an act by individuals whom we condemn, in the event it was carried out by Palestinians. Stabbing children in their sleep is not a heroic act but rather that of the heartless, like some of the occupation soldiers and settlers, who murder children,” Hafez Barghouti, editor-in-chief of Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, wrote on Sunday.

He added that the “real murderers in Itamar are the zealous settlers and anyone who burned a tree, vandalized the cemetery in Awarta, forced out the residents of Khirbet Yanun, took control of a plot of land or robbed an olive harvest …. The act at Itamar was a message to the occupation and to the world … whose meaning is clear – the occupation must go.”

Ah, yes, the real murderers are those who supposedly rob an olive harvest, not the ones who actually murder people. How … Orwellian.

Meanwhile, Jeff Dunetz finds that Western media aren’t much better at reporting the terrorist attack and brutal murder:

CNN refused to label the murder as an act of terrorism by the Palestinians, desipte the fact that the IDF had already called it an act of Palestinian Terror. …  The CNN report stated:

“Five members of an Israeli family were killed in the West Bank early Saturday morning in what the Israeli military is calling a ‘terror attack.’”
The report went on to say: “According to a military spokeswoman, an intruder entered the Israeli settlement of Itamar near the northern West Bank city of Nablus around 1 am, made his way into a family home and killed two parents and their three children.”

The IDF’s official statement had already noted that forces were searching for a “terrorist” and not an “intruder” as CNN reported. But that didn’t matter to CNN who wanted to give their cleansed version of what happened. The terrorist was also referred to as an “assailant” later in the CNN report.

The Paper of Record?  Much the same:

Never one to show Jews as victims (they even buried accounts of the Holocaust until after the war) , the NY Times did its best to join in on the dehumanization of the Fogel’s with a headline declaring:

Suspecting Palestinians, Israeli Military Hunts for Killers of 5 West Bank SettlersNotice “Suspecting Palestinians” and “Five Settlers.” By the time they wrote the article the NY Times knew there were Palestinians involved, the evidence included muddy footprints that lead directly to the nearest Palestinian village and a statement by the Al Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades saying “hey we did it.”

Both Philip and Jeff include this video (via Big Peace), set aptly to music from  Schindler’s List, that gives graphic accounts of the slaughter of the Fogels, including the infant Hadas.  When I say “graphic,” I mean it, so don’t play this if you’re at all squeamish.  It will likely enrage you — or at least it will make you question what kind of people would celebrate this by eating candy in the streets.  Answer: The same kind of people who celebrated the massacre of 3,000 people in the US on 9/11, and the very same people that the US insists should have their own independent state.  See if this video convinces you of that wisdom.


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This was a good thread……

Vanceone on March 14, 2011 at 3:47 PM

Couldn’t watch the video, the one where the terrorists bled out that woman and you could hear her gasping as she died was the end for me of voluntarily making myself sick.

I have tried to be open-minded about the Palestinians, through the 9/11 celebrations, the murders, the lies. But their society seems so profoundly sick, in a way no one but themselves can heal.

All societies have psychopaths and criminals. But to celebrate their deviant crimes with parties? Disgusting. Guess my try for open-mindedness has failed.

jodetoad on March 14, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Disgusting, how can anyone side with Palestine? They are animals.

wi farmgirl on March 14, 2011 at 3:48 PM

I’m out, thanks.

Grow Fins on March 14, 2011 at 2:49 PM

For decency’s sake, you should have left a couple of hours ago.

Siddhartha Vicious on March 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM

I thought Grow Fins was a Leftist, Progressive, Democrat Party shill, Commie, Libtard…and now he’s a Nazi?

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/03/10/wisconsin-gop-senator-protesters-were-trying-to-break-the-windows-on-our-cars/

The only reason I bring this up is because I’ve had Dems accuse me of being a GOP paid shill elsewhere and here I was called a “Dem” for daring to disagree on some points of the Wisconsin issue (I maintained that Walker won’t reduce taxes at all for his citizens, and is that not the point of the TEA Party movement)?

I’ve been on this forum for years, but I’m still figuring out who to ignore and who to engage in rational discussions with-and the pickings are slim on some of these topics. LOL

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 3:50 PM

BL@KBIRD on March 14, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Maybe the plan is to become Muslim? True Lib insanity. or maybe I’m wrong and Grow Fins can explain. Lets’ say it is a perfect world and the only people left are progressives and Muslims.
Now what. Do you wear a burka, fins? or make the Muslims work on windmill farms? Which is it? Or do you honestly think you can live in peace?
Well we can see that murdering babies might not be an area of disagreement………./sacrasm, sick humor alert.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 3:51 PM

[Comment deleted, user banned -- Ed]

right4life on March 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 3:50 PM

agreed.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM

DrZ, isn’t it awesome how Obama has united the country?

hboulware on March 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM

DrZ, isn’t it awesome how Obama has united the country?

hboulware on March 14, 2011 at 3:53 PM

LOL.

Hopefully, in this country such horrendous violence as we’ve seen in Israel and elsewhere in the Middle East won’t happen over here. As long as people spew their vile via a keyboard and stay at home, we’ll have one less thing to worry about.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM

I thought Grow Fins was a Leftist, Progressive, Democrat Party shill, Commie, Libtard…and now he’s a Nazi?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 3:50 PM

People who routinely demonize Israel, like GF does, are antisemetic and are often referred to as nazis. I doubt she is a man and I doubt she is a donk since I believe she is a canadian.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Meh. Israeli’s throw parties when their bulldozers hit American women, this is different…how?

ernesto on March 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM

OK……. let’s recap. A family of 5 is slaughtered in their beds by Palestinians and no one cares?
This is truly a sick world.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:12 PM

Ernesto, that is false. Not to mention tasteless, ignorant and vile. Go away.

hboulware on March 14, 2011 at 4:12 PM

I would certainly celebrate if ernesto, Grow Fins, and Dark-Star were run over by a bulldozer….

Master Shake on March 14, 2011 at 4:18 PM

Meh. Israeli’s throw parties when their bulldozers hit American women, this is different…how?

ernesto on March 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Without your constant lies, you nazis and leftists would have little to say.

iconoclast on March 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM

People who routinely demonize Israel, like GF does, are antisemetic and are often referred to as nazis. I doubt she is a man and I doubt she is a donk since I believe she is a canadian.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 4:01 PM

May be, but she’s been attacked as both a Liberal and a Nazi on this forum within the space of a week. Point is, why the attacks at all? Argue the issues. There again, some folks just obviously like to argue and will tear into a commenter over the least little thing, and even ignore the parts they obviously agree with.

Perhaps some of these stories just need not to be posted here, or should be for informational purposes only with no comments allowed. I can’t help but to wonder if the editors actually want controversy and high comment volume?

A family was horrendously murdered, this stuff has been going on for a very long time and is not likely to stop. I take issue with those that support the perpetrators and want to be one of those that speak out against these crimes, even if it can only be online as I doubt our LSM will.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Why would anyone be surprised at this massacre? Any culture that celebrates the killing of their OWN children would have no compunction in killing other people’s children.

They are evil cowards and a waste of oxygen on this Earth.

Common Sense on March 14, 2011 at 4:23 PM

The celebration of this beastly attack by the arabs in Gaza reveals that culture’s subhuman nature. That arabs in Ramallah were dedicating a public square to a vicious terrorist who killed 13 children in 1978 at the same time as some unknown terrorist was bravely stabbing 10 month old baby.

I don’t see how the Israelis can ever reach a peaceful settlement with these animals.

iconoclast on March 14, 2011 at 4:27 PM

[Comment deleted, user banned -- Ed]

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Why would anyone be surprised at this massacre? Any culture that celebrates the killing of their OWN children would have no compunction in killing other people’s children.

They are evil cowards and a waste of oxygen on this Earth.

Common Sense on March 14, 2011 at 4:23 PM

American Left, Roe vs. Wade.

It’s why they don’t have much care for dead Israeli babies. They don’t have much care for babies, period.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM

May be, but she’s been attacked as both a Liberal and a Nazi on this forum within the space of a week.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM

The Nazi’s were leftists so thats not much of an inconsistency. People often attack idiots like Grow Fins because she never has an actual argument. I agree with you, but that is why.

Perhaps some of these stories just need not to be posted here, or should be for informational purposes only with no comments allowed. I can’t help but to wonder if the editors actually want controversy and high comment volume?

People need to deal with the truth and hearing alternate points of view is a very good way to find it.

sharrukin on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Meh. Israeli’s throw parties when their bulldozers hit American women, this is different…how?

ernesto on March 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Match statements like this up with the left’s orgasm of death threats and hatred in Wisconsin and it’s not too difficult to see where things are headed here in America.

Django on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

As an aside, I know we got a big present from AP long ago when Narutoboy got banned, but when will AP bring out the banhammer for Fins and ernie?

And Rywall.

Really. ._.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Awful. The only path to lasting peace is victory.

ronsfi on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Match statements like this up with the left’s orgasm of death threats and hatred in Wisconsin and it’s not too difficult to see where things are headed here in America.

Django on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM


Precisely.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM

[deleted comment from dmh0667 on March 14, 2011 at 2:42 PM]
——-

Again, I condemn both sides equally.
Put this latest tragic/senseless atrocity in the pile with all the rest.
I do not think anything will ever change.
That is my position.

Your response is to wish that my family is murdered.

I would ask Ed to ban you, but I guess he needs the revenue from your clicks, so I guess you’re free to carry on.

So, let’s get on with it. What would you like the Palestinians to do to my wife? Or my brother? How about my parents?

Now sit down and think of something real good and violent because your Hotair pals are going to read it.

Update (Ed): That user has been banned. Take care the same doesn’t happen to you.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM

‘Ernesto’, ‘Grow Fins’ and all other apologists for the indefensible. Very early on in this thread I made reference to the fact “Islam is incompatible with civilization.”

BTW: I did NOT mean Islam is incompatible merely with ‘Western civilization’, but it’s incompatible with Hinduism, Judaism, Confucianism, and every other moral, philosophic framework known to man.

QUESTION: Why Can’t Moslems ‘Get Along’ With The Rest Of The World???

ANSWER: Because their ‘religion’ absolutely dictates the rest of us have to submit to their beliefs. And that, Fins/ Ernesto is NOT going to happen.

If you 2 morons wish to ‘submit’, then so be it. The rest of us (i.e. 80% of humanity) will not be bullied by these 7th century religious fanatics.

alwyr on March 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM

As an aside, I know we got a big present from AP long ago when Narutoboy got banned, but when will AP bring out the banhammer for Fins and ernie?

And Rywall.

Really. ._.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM
——
I despise both sides of this conflict.
That you don’t like that position is beyond irrelevant.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM

Execute the men, assimilate the women, no other way.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM

Seriously?

DarkCurrent on March 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Match statements like this up with the left’s orgasm of death threats and hatred in Wisconsin and it’s not too difficult to see where things are headed here in America.

Django on March 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Precisely.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:32 PM
—–
To claim that death threats only come from the left in America is amazingly stupid. Congratulations.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM

Execute the men, assimilate the women, no other way.

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM
——
Wow. Look at the enormous Hitler balls on you. Congratulations.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:37 PM

alwyr on March 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM

The problem is that either those two morons are already muslim (which I doubt but you never know) or they are too stupid or too unwilling to believe the religion’s own words.
Yes, there are peaceful Muslims but there are also those who slaughter families and their community celebrates.
It’s not rocket science and it is not compatible, good way to put it.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:38 PM

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM

That’s not what was said.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:35 PM

That’s not what was said.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:39 PM
——-
Condemn leftie death threat bullsh*t and condemn rightie death threat bullsh*t.

I can do both. Can you?

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM

How can you condemn Leftie garbage when you have left more of it scattered around Hot Air Threads than any other Troll in the history of the site, chuckles?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:45 PM

May be, but she’s been attacked as both a Liberal and a Nazi on this forum within the space of a week. Point is, why the attacks at all?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Because the left, which GF is, has a long history of demonizing Israel. And GF has a long history of being a troll, an a$$hole, and on the occasion of a Jewish family being slaughtered in their beds, again demonizing Israel.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Barbarians!

JellyToast on March 14, 2011 at 4:47 PM

How can you condemn Leftie garbage when you have left more of it scattered around Hot Air Threads than any other Troll in the history of the site, chuckles?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:45 PM
———
Wait you forgot to wish that my family gets murdered.
I’ll wait right here for you to type that in. Thanks.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:48 PM

What is it with immature posters today? Did they get a raise?

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Nope, Chuckles. That’s your side’s venom. Your own bitterness is punishment enough. Your cherished President is a wash-out and the Progressive Movement that you so admire from your socialized perch across our Northern border is falling apart.

Kleenex?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM

JERUSALEM – Two members of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’ official security forces were arrested in conjunction with this past weekend’s bloody massacre in which five family members were brutally stabbed to death inside their home in the Jewish village of Itamar, WND has learned.

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:53 PM

I despise both sides of this conflict.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:34 PM

The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him

You hate muslems, for just practicing their religion?

You’re the real Hitler here.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM

Nope, Chuckles. That’s your side’s venom. Your own bitterness is punishment enough. Your cherished President is a wash-out and the Progressive Movement that you so admire from your socialized perch across our Northern border is falling apart.

Kleenex?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM
——
Damn. So far today I only have one death threat from Hotair. I was sure you would be # 2.

Anyways, the Palestinians are as*holes and so are the Israelis.
Nothing will ever change. See you in a month or so when one side or the other commits an atrocity like this again.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM

ORconservative on March 14, 2011 at 4:53 PM

Excellent.

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM

You hate muslems, for just practicing their religion?

You’re the real Hitler here.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 4:54 PM
——-
Wait let’s play salad bar with the Bible and find some delicious murder nuggets in there too.

And then let’s wait for the Israeli murderous response to the Palestinian’s murderous act which is in retaliation for that Israeli act which was a reaction to a Palestinian atrocity which was an answer to Israeli act which was etc etc etc etc.

F both sides.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Ruth Fogel was in the bathroom when the Palestinian terrorists pounced on her husband Udi and their three-month-old daughter Hadas, slitting their throats as they lay in bed on Friday night in their home in Itamar.

The terrorists stabbed Ruth to death as she came out of the bathroom. With both parents and the newborn dead, they moved on to the other children, going into a bedroom where Ruth and Udi’s sons Yoav (11) and Elad (four) were sleeping. They stabbed them through their hearts and slit their throats.

The murderers apparently missed another bedroom where the Fogels’ other sons, eight-year-old Ro’i and two-year-old Yishai were asleep because they left them alive. The boys were found by their big sister, 12-year-old Tamar, when she returned home from a friend’s house two hours after her family was massacred.

Tamar found Yishai standing over his parents’ bodies screaming for them to wake up.

….

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=212146

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:02 PM

F both sides.

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 4:57 PM

No, F you and the palis.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:03 PM

No, F you and the palis.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:03 PM
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okay, nancy!

Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Kleenex?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 4:51 PM

I’m sure Drywall and his buddies appreciate the offer. They are doubtlessly running low after wanking to watching the video over and over….

Master Shake on March 14, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Please note this warning.

Anyone dumb enough to use the comment threads to challenge people to fights/duels, wish death on family members of other commenters, or in general act like raging asshats and foul-mouthed children on this thread, will no longer be allowed to comment at Hot Air. Don’t expect warnings or explanations, and I don’t give a tinker’s dam how long you may or may not have been commenting here. Four people just found out that I’m serious the hard way. I’ll be glad to add a few more to that list.

Either get serious and mature or back away from your keyboards for a while.

Ed Morrissey on March 14, 2011 at 5:08 PM

May be, but she’s been attacked as both a Liberal and a Nazi on this forum within the space of a week. Point is, why the attacks at all?

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 14, 2011 at 4:21 PM

I haven’t seen GF post anything that qualified as ‘Nazi’, but ‘liberal’? Hell yes. You’re suggesting that ‘liberal’ is an attack word – why?

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Meh. Israeli’s throw parties when their bulldozers hit American women, this is different…how?

ernesto on March 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I don’t know. Go ask your cousin. You know that one you quoted who ended up being everyone’s cousin on every left blog. You have no credibility. Get lost liar.

Scrappy on March 14, 2011 at 5:11 PM

This is a very difficult video to watch, but a very important one as well.

Am I correct that there is no “after” photo of the beautiful mother? I can only imagine why they did not show what those murderers did to her.

I pray for them and all of Israel in the name of Messiah Y’shua.

KyMouse on March 14, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Thanks, Ed.

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Yeah, I can see why Dave R and other cretins friends would equate that with Palestinians ‘civilians’ (term used very loosely) killed during Israeli military actions that try to avoid civilian deaths.

You know, especially the intentional slitting of childrens’ throats.

Same-same, right Dave?

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Growfins is out? GrowFins is out?

Thanks Ed! It’s about time!

I see 3 others are not with us either…. I will try to be better myself.

Vanceone on March 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM

Four people just found out that I’m serious the hard way. I’ll be glad to add a few more to that list.

Either get serious and mature or back away from your keyboards for a while.

Ed Morrissey on March 14, 2011 at 5:08 PM

Thank you.

sharrukin on March 14, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Meh. Israeli’s throw parties when their bulldozers hit American women…

ernesto on March 14, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Sorry, citation required, with undisputed photographic/video evidence of linkage between party and bulldozer death of American women from credible western media source, or STFU.

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Growfins is out? GrowFins is out?

Vanceone on March 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM

What makes you think so? Is there a ‘list’ somewhere?

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Midas: What makes me think that GrowFins is out? Take a look at page two of this thread and search for the word “banned.” It’s on all of Grow Fins posts. :D

Vanceone on March 14, 2011 at 5:21 PM

What makes you think so? Is there a ‘list’ somewhere?

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Fins
DarkStar
right4life
KinleyArdal

This page and previous page.

Knucklehead on March 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I still have a commemorative magazine from 9/11 that shows a big photo of the so-called Palestinians whooping it up in their streets. Funny how that photo and others like it disappeared so quickly from our news media.

(I tried to post a similar comment a few minutes ago, but it didn’t seem to go through…)

This video is difficult to watch, but I believe it’s important to do so. Am I correct that the mother is shown only in a “before” photo? I can only imagine why no “after” photo of her was shown.

I pray for them and all of Israel in the name of Messiah Y’shua.

KyMouse on March 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Thanks for taking out the trash, Ed.

The folks at Power Line have been doing some fine work on this story (or non-story, as the Western media sees it).

Del Dolemonte on March 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Once again the formerly dislocated people now known as “Palestinians” prove they are barbaric savages.

Prayers for the relatives.

Only an insane person would attempt to rationalize or justify this act.

dogsoldier on March 14, 2011 at 5:23 PM

To add to the list, apparently someone named dmh0667 is gone too.

On topic, I hope the surviving members of the family are well taken care of. Poor kid, 2 years old, crying for his parents to wake up. Those who did this should at the least be executed.

Vanceone on March 14, 2011 at 5:25 PM

5 people were banned. You forgot dmh0667.

Knowing this place, they will let them all back in. And the unbanned lefties will rub our noses in it.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:28 PM

Ah, I see – not all comments, just the really bad ones I guess (missed them, no great loss, I’m sure).

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Palestinians: giant as*holes
Israelis : giant as*holes
One side slaughters the other and vice versa.
This will never change.
The end.
Dave Rywall on March 14, 2011 at 1:53 PM

I’m late, but boy does the stupid ring out in that one.

Of course if Israel bombs the crap out of them the commies will scream and will bring another load of sleeper cells to America on our dime, polluting our universities even more

to the life of me I cannot fathom American Jews fondness for the commie party

there will not be many degrees of seperation between the murderers and the Democrat party in the end and Iwould find that Those facts irreconcilable.

Sonosam on March 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Brutally butcher one family – 500 more will take their place. Math even the jihad can understand.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

That is outstanding. I love it. It’s sort of the opposite of the Nazis murdering 50 locals for every German soldiers killed by the resistance. A great and shrewd statement.

Django on March 14, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Brutally butcher one family – 500 more will take their place. Math even the jihad can understand.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

You overestimate their reasoning capacity, I think.

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Today’s creepy anti-semitic leftist meme:

These murders were horrific.

Murders usually have a motive behind tham, unless committed by a psychopath who enjoys the act of killing.

What’s the motive here? Robbery? Probably not. Was anything taken? I didn’t see anything in the press about that.

Could the motive be inheritance? Unlikely, as the family doesn’t seem to be wealthy. Still, it can’t be ruled out.

Perhaps it was a “crime of passion”, committed by a family member or someone close to the family. Have the authorities investigated this possibility?

The aforementioned scenarios seem unlikely. Though possible. The authorities should exhaust all those possibilities before leaning toward another possibility… that the murders were politically motivated.

If the murders were politically motivated, the question is, not so much whodunnit, but who stands to gain. Who has gained politically from these murders? The Palestinians, or the Israelis?

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:39 PM

DR got quiet in a hurry – collateral damage when one of those IP’s got banned, perhaps?

*crosses fingers*

Nah, couldn’t be that fortunate.

Midas on March 14, 2011 at 5:41 PM

Brutally butcher one family – 500 more will take their place. Math even the jihad can understand.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Only if the 500 are armed to the teeth. That’s the only thing the jihad can understand.

infidel4life on March 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Thanks Ed. :)

Patrick on March 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM

Only if the 500 are armed to the teeth.

infidel4life on March 14, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Such is assumed.

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Rebar on March 14, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Excellent. From the link:

The intruders waited inside the settlement for some time after identifying their target, then entered the Fogels’ house through a window. Two children were killed first, then the father, who was asleep with his baby daughter, and then the mother, who, it was reported, attempted to shoot the attackers with the family’s gun.

She went down fighting, this is just so awful… and, yet, we are treated to the sight of Daniel Ellison sobbing at the King hearings over perceived slights to Islam.

a capella on March 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Beck covering this story right now.

slickwillie2001 on March 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

She went down fighting…

a capella on March 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

She had to. She knew that not only would they slaughter her but her entire family like they have slaughtered so many other Jewish families before. The palis really get off on murdering Jewish children.

Blake on March 14, 2011 at 5:53 PM

kill them all.

Rage blinds everyone in the end. Or do the scales of moral justice balance out when they are dead innocents in equal measure?

Grow Fins on March 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM

That you even think there’s some moral equivalence in collateral deaths in a military action and deliberate baby killing shows how skewed your moral compass is. Well, if you had a moral compass.

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM

Fins
DarkStar
right4life
KinleyArdal

This page and previous page.

Knucklehead on March 14, 2011 at 5:22 PM

Also dmh0667.

Not certain about KinleyArdal.

ladyingray on March 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Power Line

On its website, Hamas has addressed the murder of the Fogel family on the West Bank. Actually, as Al Mutarjim notes at Big Peace, Hamas talks about the murders twice, once on the English portion of its website and again in Arabic. In English, Hamas denies responsibility for the murders and distances itself from them:

Palestinian National Movement Hamas official Ezzat Al-Rashak said that the movement is not responsible for the murder of the five family members from the Itamar settlement.

Al-Rashak confirmed that harming children is not part of Hamas’ policy, nor is it the policy of the resistance factions.

He also confirmed that the possibility that the incident was carried out by settlers for criminal motives should not be ruled out.

The message in Arabic, however, is quite different. As translated by Al Mutarjim, Hamas wrote, in part:

Five Zionist usurpers were killed the morning of Saturday, 12 March 2011, in a knife-stabbing carried out by a Palestinian in the usurper (settlement) of Itamar east of the city of Nablus.

Our correspondent in Nablus reported that a Palestinian mujahid was able to break into the usurper (settlement) of “Itamar” south of Nablus in the occupied (West) Bank, and stabbed five Zionist usurpers.

Zionist media sources said that “A Palestinian broke into the usurper (settlement) between the hours of 9:30 – 11:00 PM, and killed five usurpers from one family while they were sleeping.” They confirmed that the perpetrator of the act was able to escape. …

Eye-witnesses informed our correspondents that Zionist airplanes, powerful forces from the military and police, and ambulances rushed to the scene and transported the wounded and slain, while occupation forces spread throughout the vicinity of the village of Awarta, and fired dozens of flares. …

Also, the al-Qassam Brigades were able to execute a series of operations in August of last year, which were named “Stream of Fire,” by which the mujahideen of al-Qassam were able to kill four Zionists. Intelligence officials from both the military and Abbas’s militias in the West Bank were confounded by these operations, and worked with all diligence to try to discover the perpetrators.

John at Power Line concludes:

It is noteworthy that, while the English report on the Fogel murders suggests that they may not have been committed by Palestinians, no such doubt is expressed in Arabic. On the contrary. For many years, the simple expedient of saying one thing in English and another in Arabic has worked remarkably well to placate Westerners–especially, for some reason, those who claim to be experts in the region.

Del Dolemonte on March 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM

She went down fighting, this is just so awful… and, yet, we are treated to the sight of Daniel Ellison sobbing at the King hearings over perceived slights to Islam.

a capella on March 14, 2011 at 5:48 PM

Good point. The media claim Sarah Palin and the Tea Partiers killed people in Arizona and yet they are nearly silent about the many death threats by leftists in Wisconsin (and elsewhere). There are warped, evil people working overtime to shape and direct the nation.

Django on March 14, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Now that’s evil. right there. Out in plain sight. Ugh. At least the Palestinian terrorists had the decency to hide in the dark.

Grow Fins on March 14, 2011 at 2:48 PM

It’s indecent to rationalize baby killing. That you attribute any decency to those who deliberately kill children shows just exactly where you are in the moral spectrum.

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 6:00 PM

WWJD?

Grow Fins on March 14, 2011 at 2:53 PM

What would Jerry do? Who knows? Garcia’s been dead for 15 years.

I’m as Jewish as Jesus was and my guess is that he’d weep over the murder of the Fogel family.

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Also dmh0667.

Not certain about KinleyArdal.

ladyingray on March 14, 2011 at 5:57 PM

[Comment deleted, user banned -- Ed]

KinleyArdal on March 14, 2011 at 4:28 PM

That’s the first one I saw when I logged onto this thread.

Knucklehead on March 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM

These muslims are not people. People don’t do that. They’re rabid dogs.

Vegi on March 14, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I’m here! What’d I miss? Drywall still around?

Lanceman on March 14, 2011 at 6:07 PM

That’s the first one I saw when I logged onto this thread.

Knucklehead on March 14, 2011 at 6:04 PM

Saws that too, but dmh0667 also has that comment.

ladyingray on March 14, 2011 at 6:08 PM

I’m here! What’d I miss? Drywall still around?

Lanceman on March 14, 2011 at 6:07 PM

WTH have you been?!?!?!?!

ladyingray on March 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Posted this story two days,SICKENING BEYOND WORDS!!!!!!!

canopfor on March 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM

Do you condone this atrocity? Yes or No?

Oh fer f*cks sake. What do you think?

Grow Fins on March 14, 2011 at 2:51 PM

Actually, in the comment you pointed to, there is a complete absence of condemnation of the murder of the Fogels. You use the word “slaughter” but curiously with no modifier. “Slaughter” is a morally neutral term with no modifier. Sports teams slaughter their opponents. Cattle is slaughtered so we can eat beef. So you can’t say that your condemnation is implied by your use of that world.

Instead you draw a moral equivalence between the actual deliberate murder of 4 children and their mother with a hypothetical massive military response from Israel.

You rationalize the murder of an infant by saying that the Jews are hypothetically just as murderous.

Such of lover of Israel and the Jews!

Kish mir Yiddishe tuchas.

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM

Melanie Phillips has some thoughts. I notice she also has some Jew haters in her comment section.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/6779100/armchair-barbarism.thtml

a capella on March 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM

You do realize that Ed banned him/her, right?

kingsjester on March 14, 2011 at 6:12 PM

WTH have you been?!?!?!?!

ladyingray on March 14, 2011 at 6:09 PM

Seems there was some doin’s goin’ on here. A whole slew of trolls in one swoop makes it worth coming back.

Lanceman on March 14, 2011 at 6:15 PM

rokemronnie on March 14, 2011 at 6:11 PM

And I thought YOU fell off the face of da earf. Close to two years now, it seems.

Lanceman on March 14, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Posted this story two days,SICKENING BEYOND WORDS!!!!!!!

canopfor on March 14, 2011 at 6:10 PM

canopfor:Oops,correction,a day ago!

canopfor on March 14, 2011 at 6:17 PM

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