Breaking: WH ousts Crowley from State

posted at 1:03 pm on March 13, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

It didn’t take long for the White House to react to P. J. Crowley’s bizarre decision to turn the State Department into a Pentagon oversight bureau.  Ed Henry reports that Crowley’s packing his bags:

P.J. Crowley is abruptly stepping down as State Department spokesman under pressure from White House officials because of controversial comments he made last week about the Bradley Manning case, CNN has learned from senior officials familiar with the matter.

On Friday, the Guardian reported that Crowley ripped the Pentagon for its detention practices.  Crowley called them “ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid” and complained that Manning was being “mistreated” by Marines in Quantico.  Less than 24 hours later, Obama told Jake Tapper that he was satisfied that the Pentagon was acting appropriately:

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said this week that the treatment of Private Bradley Manning by the Pentagon is “ridiculous and counterproductive and stupid.”

Asked by ABC News if he agreed with that, President Obama said Friday that he’d “asked the Pentagon whether or not the procedures that have been taken in terms of his confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards.”

Pentagon officials, he said, “assure me that they are. I can’t go into details about some of their concerns, but some of this has to do with Private Manning’s safety as well.”

Asked if he therefore disagreed with P.J. Crowley, President Obama sidestepped the question, saying he’d responded “to the substantive issue.”

That wasn’t the only trip off the reservation for Crowley this week, either:

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley is already the subject of one controversy today due to remarks he made about the treatment of alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning. But Crowley is also in trouble due to a tweet he sent out this morning — and later deleted — comparing the situation in the Middle East to the disaster in Japan.

“We’ve been watching hopeful #tsunami sweep across #MiddleEast. Now seeing a tsunami of a different kind sweep across Japan,” Crowley tweeted Friday morning, a State Department official confirmed to The Cable. Crowley’s Twitter site no longer includes the tweet, suggesting that he deleted it after the fact. Crowley didn’t immediately respond to a request from The Cable.

Multiple administration sources told The Cable that the Defense Department leadership was very upset with Crowley about both incidents.

The White House acted appropriately in kicking Crowley out at State, and should be commended for taking quick action.  However, I’d bet that Crowley will land on his feet at MSNBC.

Update: The Guardian dishonestly leaves out some important context in their report:

Commentators were quick to point out the apparent double standards within the government. Glenn Greenwald, a Salon reporter who has been outspoken about Manning’s detention, tweeted that “detainee abuse is allowed, speaking out against it isn’t”.

Last week Manning gave his own personal account of theconditions in which he is being held, saying that it amounted to harsh treatment that was designed to be punitive even before he had been put on trial. He described being stripped naked every night having made a sarcastic comment to guards about the absurdity of the regime he was under.

But what was the comment?  As Jazz Shaw wrote a week ago, even FireDogLake managed to be honest about it:

In response to PFC Manning’s question, he was told that there was nothing he could do to downgrade his detainee status and that the Brig simply considered him a risk of self-harm. PFC Manning then remarked that the POI restrictions were “absurd” and sarcastically stated that if he wanted to harm himself, he could conceivably do so with the elastic waistband of his underwear or with his flip-flops.

“Joking” about suicide while in a brig is akin to joking about having a bomb when going through airport security.  The authorities won’t just assume you’re stupid enough to joke about it and will take it seriously, because if they don’t and the suspect was serious, they will get the blame for what follows.  The Guardian’s coverage leaves the implication that being stripped naked was punitive and had nothing to do with Manning’s actions, which is objectively not the case.


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No beer summit?

darclon on March 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Wow they did something right and quickly!

hboulware on March 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM

One down, 4,000 more to go.

TXUS on March 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM

In honor of P.J. Crowley: http://youtu.be/XSnj8X1zAZI

Exurban Jon on March 13, 2011 at 1:08 PM

morning joe or tingles will probably have him on their shows next monday…

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Sounds like someone has a crush.

NeoKong on March 13, 2011 at 1:08 PM

When the Walls Come Tumbling Down — John Cougar Mellencamp

wheels on March 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM

When does Clapper get the boot?

Knucklehead on March 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Of course they acted swiftly here. Crowley was feeding criticism from the Left. The admin doesn’t care about criticism from the Right.

Karl on March 13, 2011 at 1:10 PM

Is a “hopeful tsunami” anything like a “happy meltdown?”

OhioCoastie on March 13, 2011 at 1:11 PM

This guy didn’t say anything different than Barry would have said if he could get away with it. So, once again, a leftist gets fired for revealing what he and all of his fellow leftists — including the commander in chief — actually believes. I can’t imagine what it’s like to subscribe to an ideology that you have to lie about all the time, to constantly have to hide your values and beliefs because you know that if people really knew what you were about, they’d throw you to the wolves. Isn’t the deception itself an admission of their evil intentions? How do they miss that?

Rational Thought on March 13, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Rational Thought on March 13, 2011 at 1:12 PM

THIS

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Another food taster for the king dies on the job.

PBHO must be protected at all costs.

Bishop on March 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

The only reason this idiot was fired was because he forced the One to address an issue he wishes didn’t exist. It forces the One to actually think on his feet and the One has shown that he does not like it.

TQM38a on March 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

I’ll care when obambi gets the boot, until then it’s just shuffling the deck.

VegasRick on March 13, 2011 at 1:14 PM

We’re going to miss him like a front tooth.

Cindy Munford on March 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM

However, I’d bet that Crowley will land on his feet at MSNBC.

Or the Center for American Progress which is Ground zero for the liberal agenda.

Buy Danish on March 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM

On Friday, the Guardian reported that Crowley ripped the Pentagon for its detention practices after reading about the topic on Huffington Post.

Akzed on March 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Wow they did something right and quickly!

hboulware on March 13, 2011 at 1:07 PM

Stopped clock is right twice a day. Same with a clock going backwards.

rbj on March 13, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Clapper better be next.

ctmom on March 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

Zero love for Obama here. I have got to say, however, managing all the poop that comes out of the mouths of a thousand political appointees, all of whom think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread, has got to be one hair raising and hair tearing job.

cdor on March 13, 2011 at 1:20 PM

He shot his mouth off about something he knew nothing about. But, I don’t think he should have been shitecanned for it. The twitter nonsense – dumb. But who hasn’t stuck their foot in their mouth? Anyway, I can’t believe I’m defending this doofus. Okay, I take it back. So much about what is being published about Manning is B.S. and is detectable B.S. if you have an IQ over room temp. A guy in his position shouldn’t be swallowing it.

Blake on March 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM

More love for Obama from the RINOs…

kevinkristy on March 13, 2011 at 1:23 PM

The White House acted appropriately in kicking Crowley out at State, and should be commended for taking quick action.

The era of low expectations…

the_nile on March 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Wonder how the DUmmies and KOStards are taking this ? Crowley was speaking “Truth to power” or some other such nonsense.

William Amos on March 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Smart power at work!

Somewhere on the East Coast, Joe Effin’ Biden is asking himself “What did Crowley say that was so bad?”

ExUrbanKevin on March 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

Somewhere on the East Coast, Joe Effin’ Biden is asking himself “What did Crowley say that was so bad?”

ExUrbanKevin on March 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

heh

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 1:29 PM

I suspect his sin was in exposing the amateurishness of State.

paul1149 on March 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM

PJC works for HRC and embarrassed the boss. So I am not sure the WhiteHouse had any involvement at all.

meci on March 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

P.J. Crowley is abruptly stepping down as State Department spokesman under pressure from White House officials …

Translation:

THUD! THUD! THUD!

Another one thrown under the bus!

THUD! THUD! THUD!

Another one thrown under the bus!

And another one thrown!

And another one thrown!

Another one thrown under the bus!

HEY!

Obama gonna throw you too!

Another one thrown under the bus!

THUD! THUD! THUD!

pilamaye on March 13, 2011 at 1:31 PM

Somewhere on the East Coast, Joe Effin’ Biden is asking himself “What did Crowley say that was so bad?”

ExUrbanKevin on March 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM

According to a Drudge link, he was in Moscow, mangling all the Russian names in his speech.

Wethal on March 13, 2011 at 1:33 PM

ctmom on March 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

He should have gone when they caught him uninformed. His latest statement, about GDaffy, seems right on to me. Maybe I’m just unable to see that noose that The Won states is tightening around him yet.

Cindy Munford on March 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM

He shot his mouth off about something he knew nothing about. But, I don’t think he should have been shitecanned for it. The twitter nonsense – dumb. But who hasn’t stuck their foot in their mouth? Anyway, I can’t believe I’m defending this doofus. Okay, I take it back. …A guy in his position shouldn’t be swallowing it.

Blake on March 13, 2011 at 1:21 PM

That’s the key. He was the State Dept. spokesmouth. He can’t be going off the reservation like that.

entropent on March 13, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Hire a bunch of people who have contempt for the military and reap what you sew. Still, if the third series of Wikileaks releases in December hadn’t been so embarrassing to the Obama Administration (as opposed to Document Dumps #1 and #2, which embarrassed the Bush White House), odds are better than 50-50 that P.J. would have kept his job despite his comments about the treatment of Manning and Quantico.

jon1979 on March 13, 2011 at 1:37 PM

“Hopeful Tsunami” WTF?

Death toll currently uncountable, damage beyond comprehension, nuclear melt-downs underway……how completely tone-deaf is guy?

Tim_CA on March 13, 2011 at 1:38 PM

What a never ending amateur hour the Obama Administraction is.

Really Right on March 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I suppose conservatives could gloat over the Obama administration finding itself populated with self-righteous, self-serving pseudo intellectuals. But at the end of the day, I am left to wonder if there is no one left in government service who actually puts government service first, and their own vapid judgements out of the way?

Liberals love to look down their noses at the military, but it’s the only branch of government left that (almost always) shuts up, salutes and does what it is told by its commander in chief. Goodness knows, I don’t think for one moment most of our officer corps agrees with the President’s judgement on much. But, they know a legal order when they see one.

doufree on March 13, 2011 at 1:43 PM

The White House acted appropriately in kicking Crowley out at State,

What about the rest of the moral-relativist dolts there?

roy_batty on March 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

What a never ending amateur hour the Obama Administraction is.

Really Right on March 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

Every single day, over and over, just like high school.

Tim Zank on March 13, 2011 at 1:47 PM

MSDNC, the club gitmo of the left, repository of elitism as long as they are the elite, a truly soft landing for pj.

tim c on March 13, 2011 at 1:56 PM

Crowley is a liberal, and he did what liberals do – he placed his liberalism above all else. Above protocol, above common sense. Can’t be mad at the guy, he was just being himself. Like the scorpion with the frog.

joejm65 on March 13, 2011 at 1:59 PM

Remember this?

Reporter: Even if somebody is acting alone, it’s not a terrorist attack?

Crowley: For example, was the shooting of congresswoman Gabby Giffords a terrorist attack. I mean, you have to look at the evidence, you have to look at the evidence and look at the motivation then you make a judgment and that is a process as far as I know that is ongoing.

What a jerk.

kingsjester on March 13, 2011 at 2:01 PM

Something to look forward to on NPR:

“And now for analysis we turn to P. J. Crowley, former State Department official during the Obama Administration . . .”

exdeadhead on March 13, 2011 at 2:02 PM

Broken clock, etc et al

Ugly on March 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

When does Clapper get the boot?

Knucklehead on March 13, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Clapper was largely correct in his comments about Libya by what we are seeing on the ground there. His comment that that Russia and China present a greater danger than Iran and North Korea at this time was also true when you look at capability rather than intention. His not having heard about some incident before an interview is quite forgivable in my book. You are not going to be up to speed on everything constantly while traveling. His claim that the Muslim Brotherhood was secular is what looks like a true gaffe.

KW64 on March 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

No love here.

“Stepping down?” It should read “Was fired.”

BD57 on March 13, 2011 at 2:04 PM

Replace Crowley with Steve Crowder.

That’s a Peace Prize!

profitsbeard on March 13, 2011 at 2:05 PM

And it’s Larry Kudlow FTW!:

“The human toll here looks to be much worse than the economic toll and we can be grateful for that…”

He later apologized.

chumpThreads on March 13, 2011 at 2:06 PM

Director Clapper needs to be clapped off.

carbon_footprint on March 13, 2011 at 2:07 PM

Everyone at Huffpo is lamenting his demise. They see PJ as a truth-teller, a martyr for Manning’s cause.
Sheesh.

soozer47 on March 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

This guy didn’t say anything different than Barry would have said if he could get away with it. So, once again, a leftist gets fired for revealing what he and all of his fellow leftists — including the commander in chief — actually believes. I can’t imagine what it’s like to subscribe to an ideology that you have to lie about all the time, to constantly have to hide your values and beliefs because you know that if people really knew what you were about, they’d throw you to the wolves. Isn’t the deception itself an admission of their evil intentions? How do they miss that?

Rational Thought on March 13, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Talk about hitting the nail on the head! When you’re a hammer, everything looks like a nail. BAM!

sicoit on March 13, 2011 at 2:08 PM

Clapper better be next.
ctmom on March 13, 2011 at 1:19 PM

In the world of PBHO, claiming that someone who committed treason is being mistreated by authorities is a far greater offense than claiming that the organization which has fueled the modern Jihad, the Muslim Brotherhood, is secular.

Clapper is safe so long as he doesn’t use Islam and terrorism in the same sentence.

Basilsbest on March 13, 2011 at 2:10 PM

What about the rest of the moral-relativist dolts there?

roy_batty on March 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM

Well, we can fire the rest in `12!

bluemarlin on March 13, 2011 at 2:12 PM

His claim that the Muslim Brotherhood was secular is what looks like a true gaffe.KW64 on March 13, 2011 at 2:03 PM

We now have a new meaning for the word gaffe.

Basilsbest on March 13, 2011 at 2:14 PM

Perhaps Crowley has a man crush on Bradley Manning.

Really Right on March 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM

Suddenly the GOP establishment has a new front-runner. Sorry, Huntsman.

SouthernGent on March 13, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Yet Clapper remains. (But for how long?)

I’ve truly never seen a more disfunctionable foreign policy admin than the one the US currently employs.

Nelsa on March 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM

We shouldn’t need him doing something as inconsequential as firing an idiot to find a way to applaud him. No golf clap from me.

Jim708 on March 13, 2011 at 2:24 PM

Now where in the world would someone in this administration get the idea that they can reflexively opine on subject matter not their official concern or responsibility, I mean besides from just about everyone else in this administration?

Dusty on March 13, 2011 at 2:33 PM

“Mr. Crowley what went down in your head.”

Caper29 on March 13, 2011 at 2:35 PM

OT

Saxby Chambliss: Elimination of NPR funding ‘not the wisest thing to do’

artist on March 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM

I’m shocked HRC just didn’t arrange an accident or something.

OmahaConservative on March 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM

artist on March 13, 2011 at 2:36 PM

$%^%$* ratsnfratsn

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM

Nope, not punitive at all. I mean, he joked about potentially committing suicide, so therefore you have to strip him naked. Can you think of a single other option that is more reasonable? Keep him under 24 hr observation for a couple of nights, psychological testing etc.? No. None of those are reasonable solutions, the *only* solution is the one where you forcibly strip him naked, and it’s a good think Crowley has been forced to resign for pointing out that that’s not very nice. Can’t have any truthtellers out there!

Gosh, it’s a good thing he didn’t joke about potentially committing suicide by slamming his head against the wall repeatedly, otherwise they’d have to set him free!

Proud Rino on March 13, 2011 at 2:42 PM

This is the same assclown that Greg Jarrett pwned during a Fox interview about the new Arizona border law.

This guy has a history of saying stupid sh!t.

DLTDHYITAOYWO!

pain train on March 13, 2011 at 2:48 PM

Or the Center for American Progress which is Ground zero for the liberal agenda.

Buy Danish on March 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM

The Center for American Prograss was Crowley’s employer at the time he was hired by the Obama Administration.

bw222 on March 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Any time a prisoner jokes about committing suicide, they strip him and force him to sleep naked every night. This is standard protocol. Crowley was really off-base here.

What? It’s *not* standard protocol? Oh. HMMMMMMMMM. Well fire Crowley anyway. He can join Larry Lindsay and Eric Shinseki in the “I got fired by the President for telling the truth” club.

Proud Rino on March 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Crowley haa had a habit of popping off with inappropriate comments, wholly unrelated to his position. On his trip to the Far East, he felt obliged to weigh in negatively on the AZ illegal alien legislation. He hasn’t been professional or responsible at all during his tenure at State.

onlineanalyst on March 13, 2011 at 2:55 PM

I heard his next gig was judging some Cowboy Poetry Festival or something . . .

BigAlSouth on March 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM

Any active Government official who is on twitter and comments on official business or policy should be fired for stupidity.

jjshaka on March 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM

OT: Duke—ACC champs once again

yeah baby :)

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM

who??

RealMc on March 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM

And my Memphis Tigers are Conference USA Champs again and the 7th youngest team in the country.

kingsjester on March 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

kingsjester on March 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

excellent….

bracketology to begin in a few short hours…

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 3:14 PM

who??

RealMc on March 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM

college basketball buddy

duke blue devils :)

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM

President Obama said Friday that he’d “asked the Pentagon whether or not the procedures that have been taken in terms of his confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards.”

Pentagon officials, he said, “assure me that they are. I can’t go into details about some of their concerns, but some of this has to do with Private Manning’s safety as well.”

Let’s see how Obama’s original sponsor for his Senate race and subsequent Presidential run — Dick the Weenie Durbin, Senator from State of ILL — views the military’s handling of prisoners and detainees:

Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), speaking on the Senate floor, described our interrogation practices at Gitmo (keeping the 20th hijacker cold or hot, or playing of loud rap music) as akin to something that “happened by [sic] the Nazis, Soviets in their Gulags, or some madman regime like Pol Pot.”

So, Obama’s reaction to outrageous attacks on our military depends entirely upon who the President is at the time, I guess.

Buck Ofama

Jaibones on March 13, 2011 at 3:22 PM

“Mr. Crowley what went down in your head.”

Caper29 on March 13, 2011 at 2:35 PM

He should have went in his head!

ladyingray on March 13, 2011 at 3:28 PM

They fired Crowley for the wrong reason.

He is right in regards to Manning’s treatment. It was stupid.

They should have water boarded him, found out who the other traitors are, then execu*ed him; or better, yet, let him kill himself. The bullets are too costly for this little worm.

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Any active Government official who is on twitter and comments on official business or policy should be fired for stupidity.

jjshaka on March 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM

+1 — I never understand why officials (and most politicians, for that matter) feel the need to tweet all the time. A lame attempt to seem cool, I guess. (Example: Harry Reid’s Twitter obsession with Lady GooGoo.)

KS Rex on March 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM

However, I’d bet that Crowley will land on his feet at MSNBC.

Really!? Do you actually think MSNBC would go against this administration and hire somebody they just shiitecanned? I think it will be more like the old Soviet union days and PJ will be figuratively shipped off to Siberia, never to be heard from again (except maybe on FOX).

PatMac on March 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM

Schadenfreude on March 13, 2011 at 3:32 PM

Don’t be shy! Tell us what you really think!

ladyingray on March 13, 2011 at 3:54 PM

who??

RealMc on March 13, 2011 at 3:08 PM

college basketball buddy

duke blue devils :)

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 3:19 PM

ref to thread topic…..everybody knows who Duke is ;o)

RealMc on March 13, 2011 at 4:01 PM

James Clapper is glad that he get’s more strikes than Crowley.

Here’s a little tribute for Mr. Crowley.

OxyCon on March 13, 2011 at 4:25 PM

What a never ending amateur hour the Obama Administraction is.

Really Right on March 13, 2011 at 1:41 PM

I totally agree BUT am so disenfranchised by just how much this regime gets away with. It’s like they are totally confident that half of what they do/say that should get the whole country outraged will go down the memory hole.

And with RINOS and so-called Conservatives (yeah, you Michael Medved!) helping them along, that 50% goes up to 70%.

Really, did any of you ever think that almost 2 1/2 years of Obamanation that the Right STILL would have a bunch of jokes (and no great front-runner) running for 2012???

And don’t even get me going on that corny fraud Huckaphony!!!!!

Puh-leeze. What the Obama Adminstration gets away with is disgusting and all the Right has is a bunch of effing weenies with their weenies in their hands.

Gob on March 13, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Just saw this flash by on the “Top Tweets” on Twitter…

dangillmor Bush-Obama administration fires State Dept spokesman for telling truth re abuse of Bradley Manning http://politi.co/emuqVn

Bush-Obama administration? DAMN SON.

saint kansas on March 13, 2011 at 5:00 PM

James Clapper is glad that he get’s more strikes than Crowley.

Here’s a little tribute for Mr. Crowley.

OxyCon on March 13, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Who you know is only “half” the job description.

Roy Rogers on March 13, 2011 at 5:04 PM

I suspect his sin was in exposing the amateurishness of State.

paul1149 on March 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM

Yep, that’s Hillary’s job.

AZCoyote on March 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM

ref to thread topic…..everybody knows who Duke is ;o)

RealMc on March 13, 2011 at 4:01 PM

tee hee :)

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 5:58 PM

KJ, your tigers are playing the AZ wildcats

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I heard his next gig was judging some Cowboy Poetry Festival or something . . .

BigAlSouth

Oh, no! Who’s going to speak to American Muslims in Arabic about what a beautiful city Jerusalem is! (Hint, hint – it won’t be Jewish too much longer, he hopes.) He should have been canned then!

honsy on March 13, 2011 at 6:46 PM

There are only two men more disgusting than Crowley who ever wore this nation’s uniform – one is John Kerry and the other is Jack Murtha (peace to his ashes).

HondaV65 on March 13, 2011 at 7:16 PM

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I know. Our coach, Josh Pastner, played and was an Assistant Coach under Lute Olsen.

kingsjester on March 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder. It is progressive. When their whole administration is filled with liberal loons at every turn, they always will expose their lack of reality inevitably. Just a matter time.

volsense on March 13, 2011 at 7:44 PM

HondaV6. I second that emotion. Semper Fi.

volsense on March 13, 2011 at 7:47 PM

kingsjester on March 13, 2011 at 7:20 PM

cool beans
should be a good game…

cmsinaz on March 13, 2011 at 8:22 PM

It’s difficult for me to muster a lick of sympathy for Manning, who IMHO is a petulant child who probably would have gotten other soldiers slaughtered in combat. He doesn’t seem to have the mental makeup for Call of Duty.

L.N. Smithee on March 13, 2011 at 8:53 PM

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