Obama’s Curious Claims on Oil Production

posted at 3:35 pm on March 11, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

The President took to the bully pulpit for a presser covering a wide range of topics including the Japanese earthquake and the situation in Libya. He also took time out to make a rather curious claim about US oil supplies.

“We’re adapting. We’re producing more oil, and we’re importing less,” he remarked.

“Now, the hard truth is, is that as long as our economy depends on foreign oil, we’ll always be subject to price spikes,” he noted.

He indicated that “our oil production reached its highest level in seven years. Oil production from federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico reached an all-time high,” adding that “for the first time in more than a decade, imports accounted for less than half of what we consumed.”

That’s an interesting claim, particularly given Hot Air’s coverage of the subject just prior to the press event. But record setting production would certainly be good news, wouldn’t it? Sadly, it seems that the President was basing his claims on some recent comments by Ken Salazar. While they sound great on paper, Ken was talking about the total number of oil rigs in the gulf, not the total amount of oil being produced. Jack Gerard of the American Petroleum Institute attempts to straighten out the math for the Oil Analyst in Chief.

Salazar’s numbers distort the true number of working rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. According to Baker Hughes:

  • Four days before the Deepwater Horizon accident there were 55 rotary rigs actually drilling offshore in the Gulf of Mexico.
  • On May 28, 2010, when the administration announced the six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling, there were 46 rotary rigs operating in the Gulf.
  • Last week, 25 rotary rigs were operating in the Gulf of Mexico.

So the fact that there is an “all-time high” number of rigs in the Gulf ignores the fact that most of those rigs are not working. Claiming an increase in idle rigs in the Gulf as a success story is like claiming the job market is great because a lot of people are unemployed and available to work.

With all due respect to API, a better analagy would be to have a poultry farmer claiming that egg production was at an all time high based on the number of chickens he has, regardless of the fact that more than half the hens have stopped laying. But in fairness to America’s poultry farmers, your average chicken doesn’t have to wait for a permit from the federal government before dropping more eggs in the nest.

The president needs to go back and do a bit more work on his math. Or possibly pardon a few chickens. Perhaps the new media meme for 2011 could be the one put forward by a good friend of Hot Air on Twitter. So… “Obama lied, Gulf oil workers cried”?

Update (Ed): Over at American Solutions, Steve Everley debunks a few more claims from Obama:

  • “We can’t escape the fact that we control only 2% of the world’s oil.” This is a common refrain among anti-drilling Democrats and environmentalists, and it’s repeated enough that many people accept it as true. In reality, it’s 100% false. The number comes from a highly conservative estimate from the Energy Information Administration totaling America’s proven reserves where we are already drilling. It does not include the 10 billion barrels available in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It does not include most of the 86 billion barrels available offshore in the Outer Continental Shelf, most of which President Obama has placed under an executive drilling ban. And it does not include the 800 billion barrels of oil we have locked in shale in Wyoming, Utah, and Colorado. Those shale resources alone are actually three times larger than the proven reserves of Saudi Arabia, so the claim that the U.S. only has 2% of the world’s oil is clearly false.
  • “Industry holds leases on tens of millions of acres both offshore and on land where they aren’t producing a thing.” President Obama adds to this whopper by saying he wants to “encourage companies to produce [on] the leases they hold.” While this sounds like a common sense fix, it’s actually just blind rhetoric reserved only for people with a shocking ignorance of drilling. You can read more about this here and here, but it basically boils down to this: A lease is for exploration and production, not just production, and because oil is not equally distributed across the globe, one parcel of leased acreage may not hold any oil. Moreover, due to the circuitous and needlessly complicated permitting process, it can take years for companies who own a lease to complete their exploration activities. To get to the production phase, it could take as long as ten years. Ironically, President Obama wants to tax companies for not producing on their leases, even if the federal government’s refusal to grant permits is the reason why those companies are not drilling.
  • “Last year…our oil production reached its highest level in 7 years.” This is pure spin. President Obama is deliberately trying to take credit for actions unrelated to his policies. The increased level of production is due to the actions of previous administrations and production in the Dakotas where most drilling is occurring on private land. By contrast, the Energy Information Administration projects that there will be a decline in production of 220,000 barrels of domestic oil per day in 2011, and in 2012 America will produce 150 million fewer barrels in the Gulf of Mexico, all because of President Obama’s policies to discourage or ban domestic drilling. In addition, President Obama’s drilling moratorium (and subsequent refusal to issue drilling permits) has forced at least 7 rigs to leave the Gulf and sign contracts in other countries, taking much needed jobs and revenue with them.

Remember when Presidents held press conferences to clarify issues?

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Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Eh?

EnglishRogue on May 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Why?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

you go girl!

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Go Mia!

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I’ll be sending a donation shortly….

..Aside from the Presidential race, her race irritated the Sh*t out
of me in 2012…hey Utah, how’s about you get your heads out of your Azzes on this woman, Mkay?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

promachus is just a “hater”…who knows? Who cares? And at this point, what difference does it make anyway?

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Super. I will send her California dollars, more this time than last time.

GaltBlvnAtty on May 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Media spin in 5….4….3…

She’s black and a republican……

…..therefore she is a sellout and Uncle Tom.

Besides she didn’t win last time, what is the reason she could win this time exactly?

PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

^ Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

A smart conservative black woman makes the MSM and all liberals so nervous and scared, all they can do is ad hominem attacks.

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Hopefully the group that monitors election fraud has/will receive(d) their
IRS status by now (delayed because of the “scandal”) and can assure voters there is no voter fraud this time.

This woman is awesome! I was shocked when she lost last time.

Amjean on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

We can’t pound sand. We’ll be audited and get brought up on EPA charges.

cbenoistd on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Racisssssst!

I couldn’t resist.

belad on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

Because Ryan’s budget, Tax n’Spend…

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

She’s black, therefore she’s stealth establishment. Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Beat me to it!

belad on May 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

..Aside from the Presidential race, her race irritated the Sh*t out
of me in 2012…hey Utah, how’s about you get your heads out of your Azzes on this woman, Mkay?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Her race irritated the Sh*t out of the left in 2012, too. But not in the same way that you meant. Off the plantation, and all that.

I will be sending her a donation as well. With more to come as her campaign goes forward. Go, Mia!

iurockhead on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The Boston Herald is reporting John McCain warned against Obama Nixon comparisons today at a campaign stop in support of Massachusetts senate candidate Gabriel Gomez. McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

promachus, a “stealth”, as in not at all, liberal plant pretending to know what conservatism is. So easy to spot. Forgot to remove the Sal Alinsky mask even.

kirkill on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Is that because “stealth” fighters are black?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Is she less conservative than the Dem holding the seat?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

She’ll win easy. She lost by 800 votes. The Dem had Obama at the top of the ticket driving turnout. Not gonna happen in a mid term. Now, can we get Allen West back?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

The Boston Herald is reporting John McCain warned against Obama Nixon comparisons today at a campaign stop in support of Massachusetts senate candidate Gabriel Gomez. McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

McCain would have kittens to hear what some of us call him.

Liam on May 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Racist.

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

She looks fairly clean and articulate, has anyone taken the time to smell her just to make sure?

Bishop on May 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

How could this good woman have lost in UT?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.
idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

1) Your proof?; AND
2) The relevance of your statement, please. Why does it matter if she’s a Romney “sock puppet?” You’d prefer the Pelosi sock puppet?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

McCain called the comparison “over reaching”

birdwatcher on May 20, 2013 at 1:32 PM

The creche called McCain.

What two shameful senators AZ has!

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

How could this good woman have lost in UT?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:40 PM

She ran a crappy campaign against an opponent she underestimated, while refusing to believe unfavorable polling data. Same reason a lot of our guys lost in ’12.

Maybe this time she’ll tone down her national ambitions and get to retail politicking.

KingGold on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Yes. So is Jim Matheson.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Geez. Why are there haters on this thread.

Only important matter: She’s better than Jim Matheson.

Everything else is…well…irrelevant!

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

She’s got my vote. Again.

She lost by 700 some-odd votes last time.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Is she a mormon?

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Why do you ask? What is it to you or anyone?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:42 PM

I see the bigoted trolls have arrived. It must be after Springer.

CurtZHP on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Impressive lady. We need more.

coldwarrior on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Hate to disagree with you Idesign…Saw her interviewed twice.

Came away impressed with her….yes, she was a Romney backer,
but being in Utah, she saw the hand writing on the wall,
so to speak.

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

I am amazed and impressed by people willing to put up with all the bad press to “apply” for jobs in Congress. I couldn’t do it and admire those that do.

E9RET on May 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

How so, provide your thesis, your evidence, provide citations for the evidence, demonstrate how the evidence supports your thesis, draw valid conclusions. Be complete, show all your work.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

On second thought, I hope Jim Matheson hires you to help out with his campaign. I’m sure your “Mormon’s are irrational nuts” message will be a real winner here.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Nice woman – I will likely contribute to her campaign

jake-the-goose on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

And, now, please enjoy a reprise of her RNC speech:

I remember that when she was speaking at the 2012 GOP convention, several of the “progressive” news channels had their panel of talking heads talking over her speech… the coverage was of the panel, and you could only see (not hear) Mia Love on stage in the background. And it seemed to be that way any time that a speaker who was not a white male was on stage. You see, the “progressives” have a dishonet meme to maintain… that the GOP is only for “old white men”.

Truth knows no gender, age, or skin color.

And the truth will prevail.

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 1:49 PM

I’m sure your “Mormon’s are irrational nuts” message will be a real winner here.

That would be “Irrational, MURDEROUS, RACIST, POLYGAMOUS nuts.” Let’s get our slanders right.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

it would be an important point in showing what kind of judgment she has

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

So, Matheson has poor judgement?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

How so, provide your thesis, your evidence, provide citations for the evidence, demonstrate how the evidence supports your thesis, draw valid conclusions. Be complete, show all your work.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

This is great news. I hope she wins this time and we will send funds to help her.
L

letget on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Uh considering how “Bull” Connor and the DEMOCRATS treated Blacks…OH WAIT, that’s very different and doesn’t count, my bad…..

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

Now tell me about the Love the Democratic Party had for Blacks, and why it isn’t odd for them to be Democrats?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Easy there lib4life..that’s what got you banned last time.

HumpBot Salvation on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Give me a break. “Not much at all” is utterly ridiculous. Let’s break out the Top 100 issues concerning Conservatives in America and see how she lines up. I’m thinking she’s in the 98% percentile. “Not Much At All” implies she’s down in the 20s. So lame and absurdly false.

MikeknaJ on May 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Considering how Democ rats treated blacks, historically, I question your judegment.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Oh, so you’re not a religious bigot you’re an old fashioned racist.

Poor Mia Love could use your help in deciding the most important aspects of her life right?

And if Mia Love – as a black person – is showing poor judgement in your opinion by choosing to be a Mormon because of “how Mormon’s treated blacks” then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

The following link used to show Mia Love’s 2012 RNC speech on C-SPAN’s web site:

http://www.c-span.org/RNC/Events/Mayor-Mia-Love-at-the-2012-Republican-National-Convention/C3789358/

That link is now broken, and trying an advanced search on

“Mia Love” Convention

returns 0 results for her speech

What’s up with that?

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

It’s Mormons, fool of Harvard (liar).

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

#WHITEPRIVILEGE

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Naw, she’s a Black Liberation Theology deciple..Better now??

Your posts have become truly idiotic…I mean
with EVERY WORD YOU TYPE.

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

And if Mia Love – as a black person – is showing poor judgement in your opinion by choosing to be a Mormon because of “how Mormon’s treated blacks” then why does Matheson get a pass because he’s also chosen to be a Mormon?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

mormonism is a phony religion (maybe redundant?) that discriminated against blacks

Mia Love appears to be black

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

But Jim Matheson is not only white, he’s Mormon and a member of the party of Jim crow racism and slavery.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Not interested. Go pound sand.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Why? It is because she’s not named Saaaarah?
///

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Glad to see her running again..Good deal..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

To John McCain….yes the Nixon Obama comparisons are not good…..they are completely Iinsulting to Nixon who in comparison basically was a little naughty in relation to the scorched earth policy of destroying this country and it’s constitution and bill of rights and spit on all it’s laws policy Obama has enacted.

Caseoftheblues on May 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Excellent!

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

therefore, it would be odd if Mia Love chose to be mormom

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:50 PM

You must be 10, at the most.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Love will be running against Matheson.

Also, any politician from Utah being sent to DC is most likely going to be a Mormon so are you saying that Utah shouldn’t get to vote? What about southern states? And Democrats?

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I don’t care what her skin color is. I don’t care if she chooses to be a Mormon. I don’t care if she likes strawberry ice cream better than vanilla.

What I do care about is that she says what she means, does what she says she’ll do, and is one of our conservative representatives that will bring our country back from this edge of darkness we are currently in.

Cherokee on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I guess we shouldn’t ask how you feel about Jews?

ToddPA on May 20, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Trollcott.

I’m as guilty as anyone of feeding the trolls, but am working to change that on my part. Tired of seeing every. f*cking. thread. hijacked by these imbeciles.

I’ll not contribute to it any longer.

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

You derail the thread and then you want to bring it back.

Harvard wasted a seat for a good brain.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

She looks fairly clean and articulate, has anyone taken the time to smell her just to make sure?

Bishop on May 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

SNAP!

scalleywag on May 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Seriously though, I hope your sentiments somehow make into the congressional race here in Utah. It would be awesome if Jim Matheson or the Democrat party in general got associated with “Mormon’s are irrational and racist scum” sentiment.

If you don’t have a twitter account then get one and start preaching!

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I thought this thread was about Mia Love, not Matheson. Also, Matheson doesn’t get a pass, from me at least.

Nice try at deflection, Partygirl….I’d recommend you just runaway as your next best defense. You don’t like being called out on logic, so let’s try to deflect, eh?

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

see how easily NP slid in and hijacked the thread..into a race discussion.
Typical..do’t take the bait.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Deleted. We can only hope for a ban though..

nobar on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What the hell does that even mean?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

What happened to this original post?

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

I think Humbot was just accurately re-interpreting nonpartisan’s statements.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

She’s a Romney sock puppet.

idesign on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What the hell does that even mean?

changer1701 on May 20, 2013 at 2:02 PM

That she should have been one for Obama.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Mom must have already served NP his Spaghettios.

kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I hate mormans.

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I hate nonpartisan.

portlandon on May 20, 2013 at 2:05 PM

She’ll win easy. She lost by 800 votes. The Dem had Obama at the top of the ticket driving turnout. Not gonna happen in a mid term. Now, can we get Allen West back?

eski502 on May 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I tend to agree with your perspective.

Now, can we get Allen West back?

Yes! I hope he would run against El Rubio for Senate.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I see the zealot Palinista’s got a beef with Mia.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Uh considering how “Bull” Connor and the DEMOCRATS treated Blacks…OH WAIT, that’s very different and doesn’t count, my bad…..

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Carney says that happened a long time ago, as did ALL Democrat scandals. If it didn’t happen today, water under the bridge.

Wow. My internet keeps getting stuck or attacked by servebeer today.

Fallon on May 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I am not interested in stealth establishment candidates posturing as conservatives. She’s as conservative as her mentor Paul Ryan which is not much at all.

promachus on May 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

I’ve actually heard this quite a bit from conservative circles, like people talking about her spendthrift ways as mayor. I don’t know much about it, but I suppose that’s what Google is for.

mintycrys on May 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

I see the zealot Palinista’s got a beef with Mia.

bazil9 on May 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Exxx-actly.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Take a hint from Sanford’s campaign.

Attach Matheson to Pelosi like Colbert-Busch was attached to Pelosi.

22044 on May 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Nonpartisan, a true religious bigot! Guess what, sweetiepie: Harry Reid is Mormon. In fact, a local church leader in the Washington DC Area. About the only thing I find about that man that I can condone (though it still baffles me how a man like Harry Reid can be LDS). Is he also not very smart because he is LDS? I agree he’s not smart… is it because he is LDS?

Romney: Valedictorian at BYU. Dual JD/MBA from Harvard. You know, your claimed alma mater. Is HE stupid for being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? You know darn well that Romney is far more intelligent than Obama can hope to be.

Actually, I find it reassuring that you are a religious bigot against Mormons. Judging by your clear intellectual heft, it’s practically an endorsement of the faith.

Vanceone on May 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

She’s running in Utah you moron. Even most the Democrats are Mormon. Including Jim Matheson, her Democrat rival.

gwelf on May 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Mormonism is the dominant religion in Utah, and the well-respected conservative Senator Orrin Hatch is also a Mormon. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada is also a Mormon, although he and Hatch are on opposite sides of most issues, to put it mildly. So let’s put Mia Love’s religion out of this debate, and concentrate on what she says and does.

Steve Z on May 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I must have missed the part where we changed the Constitution so that one’s faith comes under question by complete strangers.

But while on the subject let’s talk about how Democrats treated blacks. It wasn’t the GOP standing the the doorways of schools being forceably integrated. It wasn’t the GOP who tried and de-rail the voting rights act of 1964. It wasn’t the GOP that has created a perpetual underclass of uneducated and unproductive blacks whose only societal value is every couple years at the ballot box.

Happy Nomad on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Alright, it took some creative seraching (you won’t find it on C-SPAN with a search of “Mia Love”, but here is her 2012 convention speach, as covered by C-SPAN…

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/602207803

ITguy on May 20, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I guess it’s time for afternoon cartoons, Nonpartisan seems to have scarpered off.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

No we’re not, as compared say to:

1) Bluegill’s wildly irrational hatred of all things “Palin”; or
2) Compared to your average Paul-bot…..

A few border on idolatry, but overall we’re a fairly normal lot….now to sound like Nonpartisan, this isn’t a thread about Palin, but a thread about Mia Love.

JFKY on May 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

I still can’t believe she lost last time.

She was winning.

98ZJUSMC on May 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Palin zealots are freaks.

John the Libertarian on May 20, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Not freaks, just zealots.

uh, she’s black…and if she’s black and mormon (considering how mormons treated blacks) well I’d have to question her judgment

nonpartisan on May 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

If race is the primary reason you “have to question her” you are unquestionably a bigot. That is without question.

That’s too bad. With a name like nonpartisan I had hope for you as a moderate. But you’re the same type of bigot found among TP extremists. The stench is the same.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM

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