Video: Senate Dems don’t trust Obama on budget

posted at 12:55 pm on March 9, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Why hasn’t the White House coordinated a budget position with Senate Democrats, their allies on Capitol Hill, rather than set themselves up as arbiters between the House and Senate? As Major Garrett explains to Chuck Todd on MSNBC this morning, Senate Democrats are asking the same question. Democrats in the Senate have begun lashing out at the White House for its lack of leadership; Joe Manchin blasted Barack Obama in a floor speech yesterday for failing to lead on budget reductions. Garrett calls this the “canary in the coal mine” and tells Todd that the mistrust between both has broken out into the open:

MAJOR GARRETT: This will sound glib, but Joe Manchin from West Virginia was the canary in the coal mine. Last week, Senate Democrats at their luncheon caucus meeting said among themselves the White House is absent. We’re not getting any air cover on this debate. We don’t know what the White House bottom line is. The trajectory is moving in the House Republican’s direction because originally Senate Democrats said no cuts, then they said $4 billion, now they’re up to $10 billion. What is the trajectory?

CHUCK TODD: But the White House will argue the Senate Democrats come up with just one plan. House Republicans have come up with two. Come up with one plan. They want the Senate Democrats to own the plan.

MAJOR GARRETT: Yes, but the Senate Democrats have a lingering fear that whatever they come up with, the White House will say, okay, you’re there and the House Republicans are here, and we’re going to get right down the middle. We’ll be the cavalry on our terms. So what this is partially about is a lack of trust in a sense of whose side the White House is on.

Air cover? Cavalry? Such violent rhetoric in use among journalists and politicos!  What happened to the New Tone?

There’s a better analogy.  Senate Democrats see themselves as Charlie Brown, and Obama as Lucy teeing up the football.  Obama talks about Democrats meeting Republicans halfway, encouraging Senate Dems to try to kick the ball and challenge the GOP to a showdown — only they think Obama will pull the ball at the last minute to make himself look moderate at their expense.  Given that Democrats in the Senate already have a tough 2012 election cycle on the horizon, the last thing many of them need is a vote that challengers can use to paint them as more radical than Barack Obama on spending.

I think they’re giving Obama too much credit.  If that’s really his plan, why not do it already?  Is he waiting for the FY2012 budget to pull the ball away from Senate Democrats?  This looks much more like Obama voting “present” on budget plans by sending Joe Biden for a one-off, face-saving appearance.  Obama did much the same with ObamaCare and on Porkulus, forcing Democrats in Congress to do all of the heavy lifting while he gave 30,000-foot level speeches on the subject.  In the end, they paid the price, not Obama.  He’s less a Lucy than a Linus looking for a security blanket.


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Reuters just reporting 0bama approval at 37% among indies.

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Blabbity-blah, the talking heads mutter and the news cycle spins, and nothing gets done while the world burns.

fossten on March 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

I don’t trust bho on anything! He sends others in to take the blame if things go bad, he is not about to take the blame for anything!
L

letget on March 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

We don’t know what the White House bottom line is.

Is this the ‘you are on your own’ society that Obama talks about all the time?

Skandia Recluse on March 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Reuters just reporting 0bama approval at 37% among indies.

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:02 PM

Gallup Daily Tracking has him down to 45% Approval, and Disapproval up to 48%

ChrisB on March 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM

I actually agree with a Democrat! I don’t trust O either.

Beaglemom on March 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM

The White House can’t even communicate with the cabinet agencies under it, let alone the Senate Dems.

Link

Barry’s about to appoint a “cabinet czar” to fix the relationship between him and the various agencies because he never bothered talking to them except to have Ballerina Boy scream at them when they screwed up.

teke184 on March 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM

It breaks my heart to see Major Garrett playing over in the MSNBC cesspool.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM

37% among indies?
That sounds like 30% too high. I can’t understand any independents still approving of Barack’s job.

G. Charles on March 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Knucklehead on March 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM

When did he leave FNC?

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Barry’s about to appoint a “cabinet czar” to fix the relationship between him and the various agencies because he never bothered talking to them except to have Ballerina Boy scream at them when they screwed up.
teke184 on March 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM

I wonder if I can submit my resume to be beer czar.

Vyce on March 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Video: Senate Dems don’t trust Obama on budget

I don’t trust either of them on anything. Federal spending, foreign policy, energy policy, economics, whatever. You name it, and I don’t trust them on it….

djm1992 on March 9, 2011 at 1:11 PM

Major Garrett is always on MSDNC. I suppose we know where his loyalties lie. I never suspected he’d be a lib sympathizer. He’s only a minor in my eyes now.

andy85719 on March 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM

When did he leave FNC?

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:08 PM

Last August.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM

I’m beginning to think Obamas strategy is to let the entire U.S. crash and burn then stand among rubble and declare ” I Won”

hboulware on March 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

What does he care? In the end he’s got a billion dollars to spend on his reelection, and can count on, as he always has, the useful idiocy of the media, the passive idiocy of Republicans and the collective idiocy of the voters. What’s changed?

rrpjr on March 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Barry’s about to appoint a “cabinet czar” to fix the relationship between him and the various agencies because he never bothered talking to them except to have Ballerina Boy scream at them when they screwed up.
teke184 on March 9, 2011 at 1:05 PM

Czars are part of the problem. The czars and special envoys get the power, but weren’t confirmed by the Senate, usually because the czars would never get past the Senate.

So the cabinet gets titles, and perks and staffs, but ends up like Hillary, at ladies’ teas in Botswana, while the influence is wielded by someone else.

Wethal on March 9, 2011 at 1:15 PM

Hey, Dems, see that bus? The one with Scooter at the wheel?

The one with the high, monster wheels, still with plenty of room underneath….yeah, you saw it, didn’t you.

Wethal on March 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM

I wonder if I can submit my resume to be beer czar.

Vyce on March 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM

I doubt you’d get the job, Vyce. That kind of job goes to someone like Kal Penn instead.

teke184 on March 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM

Breaking: David Broder, Rest In Peace

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM

Why hasn’t the White House coordinated a budget position with Senate Democrats, their allies on Capitol Hill, rather than set themselves up as arbiters between the House and Senate?

Perhaps because I WON looks down his nose at everyone, DEM and GOP.

Elections have consequences…

Roy Rogers on March 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM

I’m beginning to think Obamas strategy is to let the entire U.S. crash and burn then stand among rubble and declare ” I Won”

hboulware on March 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Welcome to the party. That has always been the goal.

darwin-t on March 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM

This would be funny if only this country was in a downward spiral of Charlie Sheen proportions.

rbj on March 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM

Obama did much the same with ObamaCare and on Porkulus, forcing Democrats in Congress to do all of the heavy lifting while he gave 30,000-foot level speeches on the subject.

You know, he’s been that way his whole life and it has always worked for him. The dems demanded him. They had to have him. It seems selfish of them now to complain about throwing themselves under the bus on his behalf. That was always part of the deal. What could be more obvious?

perries on March 9, 2011 at 1:20 PM

The entire media is shot to shi*. If there was any honesty at all, reporting would cover the 13 Christians in Egypt, who were murdered, by, you guessed it. Instead, we get the weak-tea, oh look, some Democrats have, what can I say, her-hum, misgivings, regarding leadership. You know, O’Keefe can’t be everywhere. When he unearths something, we resoundingly applaud.

betsyz on March 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM

This whole thing is a mess. We need to just shut the Gov down, look at all the programs and any program that does not fall within the constitution needs to be done away with. Simple

Teleycoman on March 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM

I think they’re giving Obama too much credit. If that’s really his plan, why not do it already? Is he waiting for the FY2012 budget to pull the ball away from Senate Democrats? This looks much more like Obama voting “present” on budget plans by sending Joe Biden for a one-off, face-saving appearance.

It makes more sense if you say it’s Obama plus the Senate Democratic leadership of Reid, Durbin and Schumer playing Lucy and the 23 Dems up for re-election are in the Charlie Brown role. None of the Dem leaders are up for re-election in 2012, and can willingly play the liberal bad guys to make Obama appear moderate, even if that costs some of their fellow Democratic senators their jobs, because keeping the White House and the government agencies it controls is the main priority in the ’12 election cycle.

jon1979 on March 9, 2011 at 1:22 PM

What ? Pres–ent Obama voting “present”

J_Crater on March 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:17 PM

That’s a shame. Prayers for his family and loved ones.

Cindy Munford on March 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

What does he care? In the end he’s got a billion dollars to spend on his reelection, and can count on, as he always has, the useful idiocy of the media, the passive idiocy of Republicans and the collective idiocy of the voters. What’s changed?

rrpjr on March 9, 2011 at 1:13 PM

This says it all.

Greed on March 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM

Cindy Munford on March 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Even though he was a liberal he always seemed to be civil and kind, unlike many political reporters these days.

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:26 PM

This, and record monthly deficits etc. are all going on while there is a conversation about “is 0bama defeatable.” I mean, really?!?

Hunt035 on March 9, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Can we have a little sympathy for Barry? He is way busy with Wisconsin, Libya and starting up his campaign machinery. He barely has time for golf and partying nowadays.

/s

r keller on March 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM

I have officially lost hope and I am against all change. I want my country back. Faster Please with 2012!

hboulware on March 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

Obama is too busy huddling with Trumka and Stern to plot union strategy in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana and other states.

cartooner on March 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

OmahaConservative on March 9, 2011 at 1:26 PM

Liberals could learn a lot from him. The days of journalists like him are all but gone. It wasn’t personal with him, he just disagreed.

Cindy Munford on March 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM

The Senate Dems are only now… now!!… realizing that they have been the carriers of Obama.

He has done nada for them and expects them to take any hits for budget problems. Obama can and will point the finger of blame for budget cuts not just at Republicans but Democrats in the Senate. He figures it is their job to be his disposable shield… just like the House was. And the fate of Senate Democrats in 2012 will be very similar to those in the House in 2010.

That is his leadership plan.

Vote ‘present’ and blame others for outcomes.

ajacksonian on March 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM

And, I’ll say it again, since “Ed” was so impressed: That whole Tucson tune, that big-fat Greek Wedding sort of, “lift up the champagne glasses” in regards to Giffords, Obama came through, this time, with a weeping gusto, was pure bull-cr@p.
“Pack up the ladies. No, that’s wrong. It had something to do with a “Salvation Show”. Well, here, there was some sort of charisma in that whole attitude that resulted in a waiver with Ed, at least. And you we’re impressed with the moment and drama. He swooned. and whatever else I can remember from a
a stupid, but agonizing, wha-la moment.

betsyz on March 9, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Maybe the media and some dems will figure out that water is heavy and you can only carry so much. Either you put it down or drown.

hboulware on March 9, 2011 at 1:38 PM

Problems in the White House are more than just with Congress: Obama Wants a “Cabinet Czar” Liaison to His Own Administration

“News this week of the first departure of a Cabinet secretary from the Obama administration comes amid a wide-ranging effort under the new chief of staff, William M. Daley, to repair badly frayed relations between the White House and the Cabinet.”

This makes sense, because the cabinet was just for appearances. They are all p’d off because they are subordinate to the Czars.

slickwillie2001 on March 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM

Joe Manchin blasted Barack Obama in a floor speech yesterday for failing to lead on budget reductions.

Ace put it best.

Joe Manchin blasts Obama for voting present on budget while voting present.

jawkneemusic on March 9, 2011 at 2:07 PM

He’s less a Lucy than a Linus looking for a security blanket.

The baby name is Linus.

Schadenfreude on March 9, 2011 at 2:09 PM

That is his leadership plan.

Vote ‘present’ and blame others for outcomes.

ajacksonian on March 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM

That’s how he ran his campaign. Screw-ups were the fault of “staff.”

Wethal on March 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM

What is Major Garret’s first name?

leftnomore on March 9, 2011 at 2:18 PM

Ed. I am more than disappointed in your estastic, ever loving, all balls out, over this stupido. He mouths what he reads. That is all there is. This supposed “Tucson” rejectory has poisened you like some pod. WE are now, truly living in the worst B, novelty movie, where decent people see, while the majority don’t. Hell of a nightmare.

betsyz on March 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM

breaks my heart to see Major Garrett playing over in the MSNBC cesspool.

Knucklehead on March 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM

Ditto that.

KickandSwimMom on March 9, 2011 at 2:23 PM

That’s how he ran his campaign. Screw-ups were the fault of “staff.”

Wethal on March 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM

The adage is, and it works for elections and revolutions: ‘As they come to power, so shall they rule.’

ajacksonian on March 9, 2011 at 2:29 PM

MAJOR GARRETT: Yes, but the Senate Democrats have a lingering fear that whatever they come up with, the White House will say, okay, you’re there and the House Republicans are here, and we’re going to get right down the middle.

Unlikely that the Obama White House will go “down the middle” between what House Republicans and Senate Democrats are willing to cut. Obama will probably push for spending INCREASES, and Senate Democrats are probably worried about Obama vetoing ANY cuts, while they also fear the ire of their states’ voters if they DON’T cut spending.

Steve Z on March 9, 2011 at 2:37 PM

How rich. Even the Democrats know that Obama is a lying manipulative snake who can’t be trusted. Wouldn’t it be great if they got so sick of his games that they just caved on the budget and gave the Republicans what they wanted. Then Obama would have to either show his true colors or go along with it.

I can dream, can’t I?

xrayiiis on March 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM

øbama fiddles while Rome burns.

And what is his major concern? Not the fires – it’s whether he’s playing the right tune to get a bounce in the polls.

Jack*ss.

jodetoad on March 9, 2011 at 3:55 PM