Inevitable: Senate rejects House GOP’s budget cuts, 44/56; Update: Dems’ budget bill fails 42/58 with 11 Democrats voting no

posted at 4:13 pm on March 9, 2011 by Allahpundit

Not a party-line vote. All 53 Democrats voted no, but so did the three tea-party all-stars: Rand Paul, Mike Lee, and Jim DeMint. No word yet on whether they voted that way because they knew the bill was dead on arrival or whether they were prepared to say no even if it had a chance of passing. Paul, at least, sounded distinctly unimpressed with $61 billion in cuts during his floor speech this morning — and correctly so. Quote: “I recently proposed $500 billion in cuts and when I went home and spoke to the people of my state, spoke to those from the Tea Party, they said, $500 billion is not enough and they’re right. $500 billion is a third of one year’s problem. Up here that’s way too bold, but it’s not even enough.” Not remotely. And yet here we are.

Later they’ll vote on the Democrats’ insulting proposal to cut just $6.5 billion this year, but that’s D.O.A. too. The only suspense is seeing how many “fiscally conservative” Democrats will take the sort of principled stand taken by Paul et al.

“It isn’t often that two failed votes in the Senate could be called a breakthrough,” Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said Wednesday in a speech at the liberal Center for American Progress think tank. “Once it is plain that both parties’ opening bids in this budget debate are non-starters, we can finally get serious about sitting down and narrowing the huge gap that exists between the two sides.”

Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb, who is up for re-election in 2012, said Wednesday he would vote against both plans.

“In my view, neither is serious,” he told reporters on a conference call. “These bills are loaded down with tricks, treats, gimmicks and games.”

The combatants are facing a March 18 deadline that already has Republicans in the House drafting another stopgap spending measure to make sure the government doesn’t shut down if a broader agreement isn’t reached by then.

Reid can’t accede to an endless stream of short-term GOP spending measures. The last one cut $4 billion and the one Republicans are currently planning will call for another $4 billion, the sum of which already exceeds the Democrats’ pathetic grand total in cuts for the rest of the year. So Reid’s plan going forward, apparently, is (a) to accuse the GOP of not wanting to kids to read or something and (b) to oppose any new short-term resolutions, which means the risk of an honest-to-goodness shutdown on March 18 is now real and growing by the moment. The left will have a hard time explaining to voters, though, why it was important to bring the government to a halt over $4 billion, which explains why President Present has now stirred himself to action and is meeting with Senate Dems to come up with a counteroffer. Says GOP whip Kevin McCarthy:

“The vice president’s not even in the country right now, and we have less than a week and a half. If you ask the press secretary at the White House, ‘Well, who’s the lead negotiator with the vice president gone?’ Can’t tell you.”

All it took to get The One to wade in was two failed budget bills, one short-term budget resolution, a looming government shutdown, and endless pleading for leadership from Republicans and Democrats. Good work, champ. Here’s Rand Paul’s floor speech from this morning on how feeble this entire debate is. Exit question: Are the Democrats about to try something bold with their counteroffer? I’m guessing … no, not at all.

Update: As expected, the Democrats’ lame budget proposal also failed catastrophically, with 11 Blue Dogs crossing the aisle to vote with the GOP in demanding deeper cuts. That’ll give Boehner some extra leverage in negotiating the next round with Reid, but not as much as he needs. The 42 Democrats who voted yes are still enough to mount a filibuster.

The bill drafted by Democratic leaders would have cut about $4.7 billion from current spending levels. It failed 42 to 58.

Democrats voting no were: Sens. Kay Hagan, Herb Kohl, Claire McCaskill, Joe Manchin, Bill Nelson, Ben Nelson, Bernie Sanders (who is an Independent who caucuses with Democrats), Mark Udall, Jim Webb, Carl Levin, and Michael Bennet.

I’m almost afraid to ask, but did Bernie Sanders vote against the bill because he thinks $4.7 billion in cuts is … too much?


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Obama Scandals Bring MSNBC 7-Year Low While Fox News Rises

heh

via drudge

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

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poor girl…

cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Pics of the Day: Meet ‘Mr Balls’

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

damn it, resist. :)

Axe on May 20, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Snort.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Occam is killing himself with his own razor.

Bob's Kid on May 20, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Pics of the Day: Meet ‘Mr Balls’

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

That is just nuts!

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Pics of the Day: Meet ‘Mr Balls’

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

That is just nuts!

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 8:35 PM

That reminds me of MoDo’s ‘sad sack’ article on the REB.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Pics of the Day: Meet ‘Mr Balls’

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 8:18 PM

AUGGGHHH.

Brain bleach, please.

;-)

cheers

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Needs a boyfriend. Plain and simple.

Axe on May 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Brain bleach, please.

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cheers

eon

eon on May 20, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Sorry. Sold separately.

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Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Needs a boyfriend. Plain and simple.

Axe on May 20, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Of course, you’re not Jonesing for the position.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Of course, you’re not Jonesing for the position.

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 9:16 PM

you’ve. no. idea.

Axe on May 20, 2013 at 9:18 PM

From the look of the ratings, even the low information voters are leaving MSNBC. You really can’t blame them, it’s one thing to be considered low information, it’s quite another to be considered stupid and anyone who takes MSNBC serious is in the stupid category. About the closest thing they have to sanity is Morning Joe and there are a lot of times they’re off on cloud 9 too.

bflat879 on May 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

These people really do smell President Obama’s farts .. and then rate them

J_Crater on May 20, 2013 at 10:12 PM

From the look of the ratings, even the low information voters are leaving MSNBC. You really can’t blame them, it’s one thing to be considered low information, it’s quite another to be considered stupid and anyone who takes MSNBC serious is in the stupid category. About the closest thing they have to sanity is Morning Joe and there are a lot of times they’re off on cloud 9 too.

bflat879 on May 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Even SNL is openly mocking MSNBC.

slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 10:12 PM

MSNBC: Where We Listen To The Voices In Our Heads!

pilamaye on May 20, 2013 at 10:24 PM

The logic is ironclad and inexorable:

All fever swamp logic is ironclad and inexorable…

elgeneralisimo on May 20, 2013 at 10:52 PM

This will leave a mark. The Dems will become increasingly aggressive on this because it potentially impacts them in their own districts. The scandal is a national one but the victims are scattered in every state and every decent sized municipality. T

The national story is morphing into a local news story. It is becoming a human interest story for local tea party groups on page 3 of the local paper. These are neighbors who (while they may not agree with their politics) don’t look like the toothless white supremacists they’ve been made out to be. When victims of outside IRS bullying can be found in congressional districts or local tea party groups are contacted by the local media for comments……a politician’s first instinct is self preservation. This creates real problems for the White House.

When heretics are being burnt, it is dangerous to come to their defense. I expect Democrats to begin collecting wood.

R Square on May 21, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Bishop!

KCB on May 21, 2013 at 12:41 AM

This is why Republicans need to only appoint Conservatives into office. The “appointed by Bush” meme is infuriating. They wish to pass the blame, as they always do, to him. Also, if he had appointed a Conservative rather than a liberal, we might not be having this mess.

Theophile on May 21, 2013 at 1:34 AM

From the look of the ratings, even the low information voters are leaving MSNBC. You really can’t blame them, it’s one thing to be considered low information, it’s quite another to be considered stupid and anyone who takes MSNBC serious is in the stupid category. About the closest thing they have to sanity is Morning Joe and there are a lot of times they’re off on cloud 9 too.

bflat879 on May 20, 2013 at 10:03 PM

It’s also because Fox and CNN have actually been covering news stories with seriousness while MSNBC is adrift in their Obama echo chamber.

Case in point, on May 6th, CNN was in non-stop rolling coverage on the three Cleveland women who escaped captivity (they were able to afford to as HLN was unofficially renamed the Jody Arias Circus Channel). Fox went all-in on Benghazi (with O’Reilly and Hannity), then split coverage between Benghazi and Cleveland. It was actually a good night for both networks, as Fox had a leg-up on the start of what is becoming Scandal-a-palooza and CNN didn’t terribly botch up their coverage in Cleveland (at least until the following morning).

And MSNBC ignored both stories, devoting their time to the predictable (and boring) ad hominum attacks on conservatives with Maddow and Looney Larry. It was as if they had nothing to report on while attempting to defend Obama at the same time. They looked lost and tone-deaf when they should have been reporting the news.

That night, coinciding with MSNBC’s unbelievable brain fart of replacing the liberal caricature of Rush (and public union lackey) Ed Schultz with “Up Yours” host Chris Hayes, could be tied into the network’s major ratings free-fall of late.

And it really says a lot when David Shuster takes down his former network the way he did. I would have expected it from Olbermann, but not from Shuster.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 1:47 AM

The walls of the place must stink from the years of ooze thrown at them to see what sticks. Ah such is journolism. They could start fresh (new studio) and just work from the facts. Revolutionary I know, and given these usual suspects we’ll no doubt witness insight unlike anything we’ve seen in decades.
Such as: “This whole I.R.S. kerfuffle can be summed up to one thing-It’s these cans! They hate these cans!!”

onomo on May 21, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Germany the beginning of WWII.

Adolph speaks:
“I Invaded Poland, Czechoslovakia? That’s a lie.”

News1: “But here are the pictures of the bodies and your swastikas on the tanks…”

Adolph: “Why, was I never told about this? It had to be some underling like Herr Bush. I can assure you that I will put a stop to this”(right after we conquer the world.)

News1: “Nice guy that Adolph–did you see the way his dog loves him?”
News2: “I believe he’s a man of honor and will keep his word. Where shall we toss these pictures?”

Don L on May 21, 2013 at 8:03 AM

S…..T…..R……E……T……C…..H……..

CurtZHP on May 21, 2013 at 8:52 AM

So Al-JaCurrent is ripping MSNBC for bending over too much?

Heh.

MNHawk on May 21, 2013 at 8:58 AM

The walls of the place must stink from the years of ooze thrown at them to see what sticks. Ah such is journolism. They could start fresh (new studio) and just work from the facts. Revolutionary I know, and given these usual suspects we’ll no doubt witness insight unlike anything we’ve seen in decades.
Such as: “This whole I.R.S. kerfuffle can be summed up to one thing-It’s these cans! They hate these cans!!”

onomo on May 21, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Comcast would be better off firing everyone at MSNBC and simply relaunch the channel with a new identity, new everything. It can’t be saved in any way, shape or form.

Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Sounds desperate.

TimBuk3 on May 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

spirit of half-assed spitballing/“news,”

Yeah, Allahp, that spot-on sums up the scumplicit slimestream media.

And what does Shuster mean–when was MessNBC not the place for utter ignorance?

stukinIL4now on May 21, 2013 at 9:17 AM

What’s even more hilarious about stories like this is that these are the same folks who repeatedly accuse the GOP of being conspiracy theorists when they’re trying to get to the bottom of these scandals, and then they concoct a ridiculous conspiracy theory like this. You can’t make this stuff up!

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

As theories go, I’d say it’s 51-percent-assed.

Five star comment. It could be applied to SO MANY THINGS related to these “Republican Scandals”.

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Stuck.
On.
Stupid.

dpduq on May 21, 2013 at 9:42 AM

In the midst of a political scandal that dwarfs Nixon’s Watergate, Democrats / the Obama administration is feverishly scrambling to come up with ANYTHING to head off the appropriate CRIMINAL investigation and IMPEACHMENT proceedings that should be coming!

easyt65 on May 21, 2013 at 9:49 AM

History will not look kindly on the LSM during this time period…

They have “mostly” chosen advocacy over honest journalism…

It is truly a sad time in the Republic regarding this specific matter…

Khun Joe on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 AM

Sorry to be later to party, but here is my theory:

Barrack Hussein Obama Jr. is Really a GOP mole whose sole purpose is to be so bad at his ‘Job’ that he will destroy the concept Socialism and the National Democratic party.

How else could you explain someone so inept at being the Preezy that he would destroy his own ideology and party?

Galt2009 on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Mother Jones reporter Monika Bauerlein declined to respond to that speculation, but noted that when a group seeks tax-exempt status, they are asking for “a subsidy from the tax payers.”

The core of Socialist thinking. Pathetic.

gregbert on May 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Galt2009 on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

To quote the King of Snarkdom, “As theories go, I’d say it’s 51-percent-assed.”

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM

The core of Socialist thinking. Pathetic.

gregbert on May 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Mother Jones…the leader of the This Is A Republic Scandal pack…next to Little Green Footballs.

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Sadly, there is at least a semblance of truth to this lie. IMO the GOP openly is an enemy of citizen control of government. The co-ruling parties’ will-honed game of good cop, bad cop, doesn’t sway me a bit.

It was they that destroyed Palin and attacked the citizen led tea- party. Karl Rove has them sent on a mission to destroy the tea party less they get uppity again and the GOP is behind that.
That being said; on Benghazi, IRS, AP-gate: let’s not blame WWII Japan for invading Poland! The left owns that…er, lock, stock, and barrel, but both parties are the enemy of a free citizen run republic. Unless you didn’t notice Schumer asking if his conspirators in the gang of eight got their usual pass (from the GOP) to destroy America with their “friends across the aisle.”

Don L on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Galt2009 on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

To quote the King of Snarkdom, “As theories go, I’d say it’s 51-percent-assed.”

scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Heh! Well, it’s a bit more than 51% but I figured I’d throw it out there.. :-)

Galt2009 on May 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

MSNBC has a total of 5 viewers

Cause meet effect

neyney on May 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Dear Tom:

Facts? Do you have any . . . I mean somewhere other than on the teleprompter?

EB

EdmundBurke247 on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM

This is reminiscent of an old “Doonesbury” cartoon dating back to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. In it, the Soviet ambassador to the UN is trying to explain the invasion as the result of a CIA conspiracy; when asked incredulously by another ambassador, “Are you saying that the CIA asked for a Soviet invasion?” the Russian shouts in reply, “The CIA is capable of anything!” followed by, “It’s true, dammit!” while even the other communist ambassadors start breaking into laughter.

MSNBC’s performance here is emblematic of the liberal propensity to engage in pretzel logic in pathetic efforts to force the real world into conformance with their own Bizarro World cartoon existence. I don’t think that they’re trying to persuade anyone who isn’t already a member of their incestuous inhalers-of-each-other’s-exhale society as much as they are trying to buck up themselves. ANYTHING is better than letting reality crash through the barrier.

“One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.”

- George Orwell

Spurius Ligustinus on May 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I think we should get rid of the concept of tax exempt organizations.

Instead, we should have a very, very, very streamlined tax code (perhaps a flat tax, hmmmm?) and low tax rates.

This business of deciding this entity or that entity does not have to pay taxes for this or that reason is another way to give the gov’t power. Power to decide what is, and is not, charitable, educational, religious, etc. Power to favor some groups over others.

And, let’s not forget that many “not-for-profit” organizations make huge amounts of money and pay their officers enormous salaries (and indeed, the % of money that goes to “charitable, educational or religious” stuff is pretty low as most of the money is eaten by overhead – i.e. salaries).

meanwhile, there are plenty of struggling businesses that make no money.

Look, I understand the motivation to make church’s tax-exempt, but I would rather all church’s pay taxes than, for instance, Scientology, be tax exempt. I understand the motivation for making charities tax-exempt, but too many charities are really just scams for raising money to pay big salaries to executives.

the whole tax exempt thing is simply far to abused by, for instance, celebrities – each with his/her own foundation that does next to nothing. And it is abused on the other hand by Gov’t – giving the gov’t the power to make these decisions means people are at their mercy – begging to get the status.

Just treat everything and everyone equally. If a charity is wildly successful in raising money, then some of that money goes to taxes. A church will have to pay taxes, etc.

You want to start an organization to save historic architecture in NYC? Fine. Do it. Don’t ask for special consideration from the Gov’t.

Why should some cause I find repugnant be tax exempt (and saying this, I know those on the left find causes I like repugnant and those causes should not be any more tax exempt)? Why should a religion I despise be tax free? Why should media matters not pay taxes?

Looking at it from the context of property taxes – I see tons of storefront churches with maybe 2 or 3 “parishioners” (read family members) that allow the property to be tax free. Or “museums” that charge fees and rent space for occasions (weddings, corporate gigs, etc.). Why do I pay property tax but they do not?

I just think there should not be those that pay tax and those who do not based on the gov’t's determination. That gives the gov’t too much power and lends itself to abuse by both the gov’t and the applicants.

Or, at the very least we should reform the tax-exempt criteria to make it much, much more difficult to achieve. the entity should be truly engaged in education, truly engaged in charity or truly engaged in religious purposes.

People will argue “but some really good organizations that do good work will be hurt, like the NRA or the American RedCross.” I say, nonsense. the only organizations that will be hurt are those that get by entirely on their tax exempt status – organizations like Media Matters. Organizations that do real good for society, that people really appreciate, will continue to receive donations. Sure, they will take a hit to pay taxes, but the NRA will continue to get donations as will ARC.

(This all assumes, of course, that rates are lowered and the Tax Code is reformed to make compliance much cheaper and easier).

Monkeytoe on May 21, 2013 at 4:43 PM

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