Palin: Recall the fleebaggers

posted at 12:00 pm on March 6, 2011 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro asked Sarah Palin this morning whether the runaway Dems from Wisconsin should be fired, just as regular people would get fired for refusing to do their jobs. Palin answers more accurately that they should be “recalled,” as elected officials can’t be “fired” except by the voters who elected them to office:

“Yes, they absolutely should be fired,” Palin said, speaking of the Democratic state legislators who fled Wisconsin in order to avoid voting on Walker’s budget plan. “They should be recalled. You know, they retreated. It’s not like they reloaded, they retreated. They’re not doing their job. Bless his heart, that Wisconsin governor is doing all that he can to allow his state to be solvent and he certainly isn’t getting any help from the Democrats.”

Wisconsin law restricts recalls to those legislators who have served at least a year, which means that those Senators who got elected in 2010 are immune from a recall at this point. Nevertheless, recall campaigns have started against 14 state Senators in Wisconsin — eight Republicans and six Democrats. Don’t expect too much from any of these efforts:

Voters aren’t keen on recalling state legislators.

The recall debate in Wisconsin is limited by a law disallowing recalls before an elected official has served a year into the current term. This law will prevent a recall from being launched against the governor, the Assembly and half of the senators. But the other half of the Senate is vulnerable. And a recall fight would come at a time when recalls are undergoing a national resurgence, especially in the past two years.

But recalls of state legislators still remain a relatively rarity. There have only been 20 recalls (that I’ve documented) of state legislators in the country since the first state adopted the recall for state officials in 1908 (with 13 resulting in removal). However, thanks to both a falloff in voter turnout and in improved technology, there has been a marked uptick in state legislative recalls. Thirteen have occurred since 1983, including the critical ones for observers of Wisconsin’s current dilemma.

With polls showing the electorate split and somewhat negative on Walker’s proposal, efforts to recall Democrats or Republicans would likely fail, as most such efforts do.  The real test of fleebagging will come in the next legislative elections in 2012, when both parties have to run on their actions in this standoff.

Update: The DC had the quote slightly incorrect; Palin said, “and he certainly isn’t getting any help from the Democrats,” not “he isn’t certainly to be getting any help from the Democrats.”  I’ve fixed it above.


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ddrintn on March 6, 2011 at 10:31 PM

At this point the haters will nitpick anything one day she will be stalin in drag the next she will be the right wing bible thumper…..

As far as the haters are concerned nothing she does, did or will ever do will ever be good enough for them. they would even try to disprove an article about a stalker to not give her an inch of humanity. That is what hate does. I pity them. they are lost

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:39 PM

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:04 PM

Thanks for the scoop. Did they ever catch those who fire-bombed her church while people were inside wrapping gifts? I had heard that the arsonists had intent to kill since they had taken measures to block some of the exists. HOW SICK IS THAT? And yet hardly anyone knows about it.

This STALKER story has been developing for some time now. As far back as September 28, 2010. So much of it is a matter of public record by now. This nut has been making threats this whole time. His actions seem to demand more than a restraining order.

01-10-11 02:47 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/10/shawn-christy-sarah-palin-stalker_n_806901.html

Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:34 PM AKDT
http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2010/09/28/breaking_news/doc4ca235e0bf331043209185.txt

Geochelone on March 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM

I didn’t think you would sink that low…..

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM

I don’t understand what you mean by sinking that low? I’m asking a serious question, but not doubting in any way shape or form if that’s what you’re getting at. Death threats are serious business, regardless of anyone’s political leanings.

But wouldn’t you agree that the story is poorly written?

FBI officers have ordered him to return to Pennsylvania, 3,500 miles away.

Ordered him? Wouldn’t they have taken him back to PA personally and charged him there or locked him up?

Have you seen this story anywhere else since you follow Palin closely. Anything in the Alaska newspapers?

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM

There is no alternative. The Left must be destroyed.

Now only if we could convince some of the charitable folks on our side that Obama is our enemy and that he must be destroyed as well along with all his ilk.

technopeasant on March 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM

Gary, this guy isn’t an awfully good Troll d’ Jour at all.

However, they so seem to be running out of ammo. What was it that Patton noticed about the Germans that indicated to him that they were losing – they were using horses & buggies?

Good job keeping them at bay.

What they do not seem to realize in their zeal to paint we Palin supporters with the same brush as the Obama zombies is that we believe in (mostly) the same core principles of governance that she does. We believe (mostly) in the same ethical principles that she does.

We recognize her innate leadership skills and her no nonsense, no bulls*** style of dealing with adversaries.

I’m quite certain that if a foreign leader actually did harm an American boy on her watch that she would hop on Air Force One, go to that country and kill the SOB that did it herself. (OK, maybe not. But a little humorous hyperbole is all right).

In other words, she is an AMERICAN that stands up for AMERICA and AMERICAN values.

None of those things were present with Obama. It was all a mirage.

turfmann on March 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM

That Patton analogy is perfect. Spot on perfect.

They are having to dig up three you old debunked smears because they got nothing and their unintelligent minds can’t compete.

This fookin’ thread is THREE DAYS OLD, and they are still flailing around.

She must have really hurt that fat bastard’s feelings.

One thing about it, she is not “inconsequential.” Even garden variety trolls don’t waste time on inconsequential.

Too bad they’d rather fight against the leader of the free world, instead of Obama.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM

Geochelone on March 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM

I wonder if the haters will try to disprove those three stories too. After all we can’t give Palijn any humanity. If the haters did that they couldn’t hate her as much. ….

I’m glad they caught the guy. Hopefully “the return to Pa” is extradition. I still am in shock tha the haters got away with firebombing her church.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:48 PM

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM

It’s a british newspaper they use words different. I would imagine it was somthing lost in the translation. Maybe extradiction.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:49 PM

As far as seeing the story anywhere else. No but I do know they got restraining orders on him las tfall becaus ehe was a clear and present danger. Palin had to go infront of the judge and request one. The guy is a nut case.

So still looking for more confirmation on the story.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

We sleep with the guns.” In the interview to be aired on BBC2’s Newsnight today, Mr Heath said Christy was held last month.

He had reportedly said he planned to travel to Wasilla to get the restraining order dismissed.

Looks like the story is coming from the BBB ‘s interview to appear later today. The BBC interview Gov Palin at the iron dog last week. Maybe the BBC actually did some reporting while in town and got an exclusive…..

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:55 PM

It’s a british newspaper they use words different. I would imagine it was somthing lost in the translation. Maybe extradiction.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:49 PM

I see that Geochelone has posted other articles which are little more helpful. I’m seeing a fella from the UK and will be talking to him in the wee hours of the night and I’ll ask him if this is big news over there. It’s still amazes me that we get better news from the UK than our own country.

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM

To b honest…..Dick Morris is right….

SHE needs to hire someone to launch the “return fire” on these clowns that attack her or her kids. You don’t ever hear Hillary get nasty even though people attacked Chelsea and her looks.

Governor Palin……EVEN MOSES HAD TO DELEGATE!!

PappyD61 on March 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Oh she’s doing that too.

Her new Chief-of-Staff b!tch slapped Karl Rove the other day.

She was asked a direct question about Lard Ass and she really didn’t hit him that hard. The problem is he’s such a fragile little girl that it doesn’t take much to leave a mark!

Again, the best thing for Palin is to let her be Palin. She is who she is, and we like that!

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 10:57 PM

As far as seeing the story anywhere else. No but I do know they got restraining orders on him las tfall becaus ehe was a clear and present danger. Palin had to go infront of the judge and request one. The guy is a nut case.

So still looking for more confirmation on the story.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:52 PM

That restraining order from last fall was for only 20 days if I read it correctly. I wonder if she got it extended?

And yes he appears to be a nut case, but that “we sleep with guns” was another cheap shot at her that someone will run with.

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM

That’s a strange story with a few holes. Why would the FBI order the dude back to Pennsylvania, wouldn’t they take him personally and lock him up there?

And isn’t the “Mirror” kind of like our Natl. Enquirer? It sure looks like from looking at the home page

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

It’s not a story with a bunch of holes you vile. worthless, hate-filled troll.

It’s an old story. The would be killer also stalked Sarah’s friend Kristen Cole and said he was going to kill her too.

You have no idea how many death threats she and her family gets.

Of course, that probably makes you happy, because that’s the kind of worthless loser you seem to be.

What a despicable POS you are.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM

And yes he appears to be a nut case, but that “we sleep with guns” was another cheap shot at her that someone will run with.

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM

your something else. stop now before you really bury yourself…

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:06 PM

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 10:19 PM

I didn’t think you would sink that low…..

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM

Why are you surprised. This isn’t the first time this hate filled “woman” went there.

I’ve never called for anything to be banned before, but this “woman” is getting me there.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM

It’s coming form the BBC interview set to air today…

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM

It’s coming form the BBC interview set to air today…

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM

Monday I think, but not sure Monday our time, or theirs!

It’ll be online. Sheya at Palin TV will jib it, for sure.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:10 PM

your something else. stop now before you really bury yourself…

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:06 PM

And you don’t think if the MSM see’s that, they’ll make a big deal out of it and ignore the real story and make it all about “sleeping with guns”, which is total BS? I sleep with a freaking gun in my nightstand.

Seriously dude, I’m on your side on this one and always have been when the MSM lies and distorts Palin for any reason. You and I both know what the MSM will do with that, right? Which would be a real shame, right?

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:15 PM

sorry i can’t deal with your hate tonight. Anyone that can brush off a stalker with a gun next to any politican after the tuson shooting is too filled with hate to have a rational converstaion.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Seriously dude, I’m on your side on this one and always have been when the MSM lies and distorts Palin for any reason. You and I both know what the MSM will do with that, right? Which would be a real shame, right?

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Who gives a rat’s anus what the MSM says or does in regards to Palin? They’ve already pretty much accused her of inciting mass murder.

ddrintn on March 6, 2011 at 11:26 PM

sorry i can’t deal with your hate tonight. Anyone that can brush off a stalker with a gun next to any politican after the tuson shooting is too filled with hate to have a rational converstaion.

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:21 PM

Or is it that can’t stand the thought of me agreeing with you that stalking and death threats are serious for all of us? I make a comment that the story is written poorly and lacking, and you and your fat buddy Gary turn that into hate?

You must lead a very sad life. And I defy you to find one single post where I’ve said I hate Sarah Palin. Just because I don’t agree, doesn’t mean I’m hater.

You guys are pathetic. Go and get me banned if it makes you feel better. Shout out your insults, shut down the debate, just exactly like the left moonbats and union thugs.

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:29 PM

Let me repeat (spam?) the point here:

Pay attention to the tentacles of ObaMao’s political machine. OFA is just part of it. What is going on in WI is the tip of the iceberg.

Look at this:

WI Senator Mark Miller is a socialist stooge. Look at the links and ties he has to the Democratic Socialists of America, and look at the role ObaMao has to this shady group tearing the fabric of our nation. http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2011/03/red-reps-3-mark-miller-socialist-stooge.html

onlineanalyst on March 6, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Knucklehead on March 6, 2011 at 11:29 PM

H8ter, h8ter, h8ter!!!

Gary please stop throwing adjectives at KP. I get that you don’t like her but, that doesn’t mean it’s ok to rattle off 10 lines of adjectives at her.

Unseen, KP asked if you had another source because she thought some of the verbage was misworded. She didn’t say it was a false story…

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka

Gohawgs on March 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM

Wow I didn’t know that Katty Parker Syndrome was contagious.

Geochelone on March 6, 2011 at 11:46 PM

H8ter, h8ter, h8ter!!!

Gary please stop throwing adjectives at KP. I get that you don’t like her but, that doesn’t mean it’s ok to rattle off 10 lines of adjectives at her.

Unseen, KP asked if you had another source because she thought some of the verbage was misworded. She didn’t say it was a false story…

In the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka…

Gohawgs on March 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM

I’m sick and tire of her snark and hate. This loser trolls Palin threads for no other reason than to start a fight. This time she went to far, and when called out starts playing the victim/martyr. That’s how these trolls always play it.

She knew damned good and well about this story as she’s commented and poo-pooed it before.

I’m tired of these sick losers and their BS.

Gonna call em out every single time.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Relax Knuck. I think both gary and unseen are over reacting a bit since they have more of a history with you than I. I appreciate and share yours and their concern for Sarah, her family and her friend Kristen. Knuck, I have been in the papers many times and I can hardly remember when they EVER got things completely right. They always screw something up or distort it. It’s not even that they are trying to distort things necessarily, we all know they do that too, but more often than not it’s just because they are so rushed and so sloppy with the facts that they just plain mess up the facts of what’s really going on. Sometimes even small errors can alter how one takes the meaning from an article. So everyone, don’t get all wee wee’d up if what you read in a rag doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. They probably just don’t care as long as they get some sort of story out. Facts and truth be damned. It’s not necessarily a conspiracy, more often just incompetance.

shmendrick on March 6, 2011 at 11:57 PM

Geochelone on March 6, 2011 at 11:46 PM

If you’re talking to me, it isn’t…Just tired of some posts being more populated with adjectives than facts…

Gohawgs on March 6, 2011 at 11:57 PM

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Gary, I didn’t say not to respond to KP. I asked that you leave out the adjectives.

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

I call on my fellow conservatives, moderates, and libertarian friends to take the time to research these other possible GOP candidates and help find all the negative articles or blog post that have been written about them. Don’t worry about the sources as that is not important under the ‘Palin Rules’ of vetting.

chief on March 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM

Sarah Palin has been the target of a relentless campaign or smearing and ridicule against her in the popular and political media for many reasons, most of which weren’t even her fault. My only point was that, like it or not, she is unelectable now.

Your response to those who point that out is to suggest that we subject our own alternative candidates to the same campaign and destroy their electability too? And you don’t think there is anything remotely selfish about that?

This is sort of a case in point for my earlier assertion that most of those who support Palin at this late date do so because they derive some personal satisfaction or fill some personal need from doing so, rather than because they think she is a viable candidate. This scorched earth bit is exactly the sort of “martyrdom” business I was talking about.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Better to vet the potential POTUS candidates now rather than later.

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Better to vet the potential POTUS candidates now rather than later.

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:04 AM

Those guys make the media rounds. They are mostly known quantities, more or less. They aren’t coming out of almost-literally nowhere (way up in Alaska) to be defined by the media. But, again, that’s beside the point…

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:07 AM

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:07 AM

Empty response. “Those guys” making the media rounds aren’t asked about appointing Hamas connected people to the State the Supreme Court or about meetings with the dems pledging not to bring up Right To Work legislation or their latest cosmetic makeover in order to appeal to the “regular man”…That information is developed and discussed through “new media” sources…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Anyone think President Palin would let the Ruskies get away with this?

EDITORIAL: Obama surrenders gulf oil to Moscow

http://ht.ly/48Zwi

gary4205 on March 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM

Empty response. “Those guys” making the media rounds aren’t asked about appointing Hamas connected people to the State the Supreme Court or about meetings with the dems pledging not to bring up Right To Work legislation or their latest cosmetic makeover in order to appeal to the “regular man”…That information is developed and discussed through “new media” sources…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM

We’re talking about electability, not who is popular on blogs.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:19 AM

gary4205 on March 7, 2011 at 12:14 AM

First, China. Now, Russia…

This (mis)administration’s ongoing mission is to demean, diminish and demoralize America in everyway possible…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:20 AM

We’re talking about electability, not who is popular on blogs.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:19 AM

No, we’re talking about vetting potential POTUS candidates. If we, as Republicans, don’t vet our candidates the MSM will. And, in the way that’s favorable to their leftist/dem thought leaders…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:22 AM

In February 1992, Bill Clinton couldn’t be elected. Nobody running for high office was ever as unelectable as he was, less than nine months out of the general election.

Nobody can tell anybody else who is or is not electable at this point in time.

Freelancer on March 7, 2011 at 12:27 AM

Freelancer on March 7, 2011 at 12:27 AM

Yep…To both points…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM

I’m tired of these sick losers and their BS.

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:53 PM

So says the angriest person on this blog.

John the Libertarian on March 7, 2011 at 12:38 AM

My only point was that, like it or not, she is unelectable now.

. . .

This is sort of a case in point for my earlier assertion that most of those who support Palin at this late date do so because they derive some personal satisfaction or fill some personal need from doing so, rather than because they think she is a viable candidate. This scorched earth bit is exactly the sort of “martyrdom” business I was talking about.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

You really are serious? Unelectable because you say so, or rely on some msm poll that supports your view?

You suggest many of us support Sarah “at this late date.” Really! Really??? Before she has even confirmed a decision to run?

There are many reasons Sarah is a viable candidate. Detractors such as you, I fear, won’t know what hit you when she takes the oath of office.

Opinionator on March 7, 2011 at 12:40 AM

gary4205 on March 6, 2011 at 11:03 PM

unseen on March 6, 2011 at 11:21 PM

I rest my case.
Great responses to a simple question.

katy the mean old lady on March 7, 2011 at 12:48 AM

This DaveS was asked much earlier who his preference was for the primary if it were held today. He tried to weasel out saying he hadn’t made up his alleged mind. When pressed to pick someone he disappeared only to re-emerge now.

IMHO he/she is a concern troll and of no value to discuss anything with as it is pointless. He has one mission and that is paint Palin as unelectable. Ignore him as he is probably just one of the paid losers hired by Soros.

shmendrick on March 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM

DaveS

You forgot to mention my altar. The two post were full of snark and meant to make a point about writing off Governor Palin at this time because her favorable numbers are lower than the less examined possible 2012 candidates.

If you don’t think the MSM is going to lie and distort the candidacy of any 2012 GOP nominee then you are naive. There is no way that a GOP nominee avoids the smear campaign that’s coming their way. Trust me they will come hard against the nominee no matter what and the truth be damned along the way.

My point was why are so many writing off Palin’s chances before she even has a chance to make her case. Her case. Not McCain’s case. I am not sure anyone could have sold that crap sandwich of a record. McCain couldn’t even sell his candidacy to the people.

I really think that is a big motivator for Palin. I suspect Palin would like the opportunity to set her record straight and to compete with rest of her colleagues for the right to challenge President Obama. Win or lose, I think she would like to have a chance to have a voice at the table even though so many would like her to leave the room. That sit down and shutup, grab your pom poms and get off the field advice has also got to be a huge motivator for her to compete.

Plus, our country is going down the shitter if you haven’t noticed. If she would like to offer solutions to the many problems we face then she has the right to compete in the primary just like the other candidates. Just because Palin’s faults are the only ones talked about doesn’t mean that every other potential candidate is faultless. They have many faults as well. Even politicians are human. I think.

I was just asking for those that claim Governor Palin is damaged beyond repair and can’t win the general election to start examining the other candidates. Maybe they will have faults and openings for the MSM to exploit if they win the nominee. Also, under the ‘Palin Rules’ of vetting the source of the article or blog post doesn’t matter. The MSM will use it no matter who wrote it when they find it.

As for the ‘martyrdom’ comment. I’m flattered, but I’m just one clown with no reach and no clout. I don’t have delusions that I can bring down another candidate even if I wanted to. My point with the sarcasm and snark was to merely point out the fact that just because these potential candidates never seem to get negative press, they will not escape the lies and the ‘making stuff up’ of the MSM in a general election against Obama. Look at the one time MSM darling McCain and the affair story from the New York Times.

If we write Palin off before she even makes her case because of polls and worries of the media trying to destroy her then we might as well write off whoever wins the GOP nomination.

I want to see a big field of candidates and look forward to the primary season and may the best woman win. ;)

chief on March 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM

chief on March 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM

A good and thoughtful response but one that is probably wasted on this troll. He is not looking to debate, just to tiresomely repeat his one talking point endlessly no matter what you say. He ran away earlier and now has returned thinking his nonsense has all been forgotten by now. I’m still here Dave and you still haven’t answered my question. Going to run away again?

shmendrick on March 7, 2011 at 12:55 AM

shmendrick on March 7, 2011 at 12:55 AM

I prefer his hit and run routine to those 2 “guys”, from last nite, alternately calling Palin a socialist and tax and spender…

Much like Beetlejuice, I’m afraid to invoke their names…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 1:00 AM

This DaveS was asked much earlier who his preference was for the primary if it were held today. He tried to weasel out saying he hadn’t made up his alleged mind. When pressed to pick someone he disappeared only to re-emerge now.

shmendrick on March 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Oh, stop it. I was out having a life. And I simply don’t have any positive preference at this point, sorry. You’ll just have to live in complete suffering, wondering who DaveS supports… WHO?!?… for a while longer and when I know I’ll tell you if you really care.

I prefer his hit and run routine…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 1:00 AM

It’s not a hit-and-run routine, but you’ll be happy to know I wore my Razorbacks hat all day.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 1:07 AM

Ignore him as he is probably just one of the paid losers hired by Soros.

shmendrick on March 7, 2011 at 12:49 AM

Heh! It is usually my practice to ask who they support, too. They only come back with more Palin bashing. When a poster has nothing but bad “feelings” about Palin to report, you can bet they have an agenda. Tres Alinskyesque.

Unfortunately for them, we’re onto their game. Like Gary, I’m really, really tired of the trolls derailing every Sarah thread – or attempting to.

Stay vigilant.

Opinionator on March 7, 2011 at 1:08 AM

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 1:07 AM

I knew I like ya…

Gohawgs on March 7, 2011 at 1:11 AM

You’ll just have to live in complete suffering, wondering who DaveS supports… WHO?!?… for a while longer and when I know I’ll tell you if you really care.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 1:07 AM

And you’ll just have to live in complete suffering, knowing that your denigration of Sarah Palin means nothing. Moreover, my opinion is Sarah is not only eminently electable, but viable beyond your wildest imagination. Heck, you don’t even know who you do support, much less, why.

Opinionator on March 7, 2011 at 1:17 AM

Sarah Palin has been the target of a relentless campaign or smearing and ridicule against her in the popular and political media for many reasons, most of which weren’t even her fault. My only point was that, like it or not, she is unelectable now.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Ohhhhh… a concern troll. Nice.

Step 1 is pretending to be on someone’s side. Check!

Step 2 is mention an unfortunate event that is outside anyone’s control. Check!

Step 3 is stating that even though these events may be unfair, the consequences are real and irreversible. Check!

Damn! Did Obama himself pay you to write that comment? Don’t do drugs, kids. This is what it gets you.

MrX on March 7, 2011 at 1:39 AM

It is usually my practice to ask who they support, too. They only come back with more Palin bashing.

Opinionator on March 7, 2011 at 1:08 AM

I didn’t “bash” Palin, I simply think she’s unelectable. If I did any bashing, it is Palin supporters, who are about as obnoxious as Ron Paul supporters these days. And I see that you, like Ron Paul supporters, have to believe that everything is a grand conspiracy against you. No, Opinionator, I don’t have a “game”. No, MrX, Obama himself didn’t pay me to make pedestrian comments about Palin’s electability.

…mention an unfortunate event that is outside anyone’s control. Check!

MrX on March 7, 2011 at 1:39 AM

No, I very specifically worded my comment to leave room for Palin’s self-inflicted wounds. A lot of her problems were due to things that were completely under her control. My whole point of posting on this thread was to note that Palin needlessly inserted alienating language into her comments, when it would have been more persuasive and more coherent if she had left them out. She uses that sort of rhetoric as a crutch–space filler–and she needs to ween herself off of it and focus on making substantial comments.

And you’ll just have to live in complete suffering, knowing that your denigration of Sarah Palin means nothing.

Opinionator on March 7, 2011 at 1:17 AM

I don’t recall denigrating her, nor could I care less what my comments “mean”. I’m not following you here.

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 3:11 AM

Who gives a rat’s anus what the MSM says or does in regards to Palin? They’ve already pretty much accused her of inciting mass murder.

ddrintn on March 6, 2011 at 11:26 PM

There was no “pretty much” about what happened after the shooting. They portrayed Palin next to Loughner as close as Chuck Heath was to Palin when she shot the Caribou. “Jared, look at my poster! Jared, look at my gunsights! Jared, don’t retreat, reload! Jared, go find Gifford!”

I was cynical about the press before that horrible shooting. Now I am hold them in open contempt. I wouldn’t believe them if they told me the sky was blue and water was wet. They are despicable, hateful ideologies that have completely ruined a once proud profession. And it gives me plenty of incentive to support Palin once she does announce.

turfmann on March 7, 2011 at 4:34 AM

test

takeamericabackin10 on March 7, 2011 at 6:32 AM

DaveS on March 7, 2011 at 3:11 AM

Dude, all your comments boil down to this: It’s nothing more than your opinion. No one in their right mind can say anything about elections with 100% certainty yet … you do.

Reagan was treated the same way by the media. The GOP hated him. People said he was unelectable yet he won. Does that tell you how things can change? Yes? No?

darwin on March 7, 2011 at 8:06 AM

Wisconsin law restricts recalls to those legislators who have served at least a year, which means that those Senators who got elected in 2010 are immune from a recall

Tenure
That’s the problem here.

esnap on March 7, 2011 at 8:13 AM

Update: The DC had the quote slightly incorrect; Palin said, “and he certainly isn’t getting any help from the Democrats,” not “he isn’t certainly to be getting any help from the Democrats.” I’ve fixed it above.

Hmmmmmm…

steebo77 on March 7, 2011 at 8:41 AM

JL: And people have threatened her life?

CH: Oh yeah, oh yeah. And her kids too.

JL: In what way, what are they saying?

CH: A good example is one guy from Pennsylvania. He sent us and other people copies of a gun he’d bought, copies of a receipt for a gun he bought, copies of a one-way ticket to Anchorage. We kind of laugh it off, we got a restraining order on him, and lo and behold last week he showed up in Anchorage, from Pennsylvania, and fortunately the FBI was on top of it and sent him home.

JL: You say you laugh it off, but what does Sarah say about it? It must be terrifying.

CH: Well, she has good security when she goes places but here in Wasilla she doesn’t have that good of security, other than family, friends and things like that. Not only Sarah has been threatened but her whole family has been threatened. We sleep with the guns.

SH: But the local police will do whatever we ask. They will drive by her place and they’ll keep an eye on things. They’re concerned.

JL: She clearly evokes huge passion, she has a massive following, people adore her, her supporters are very devoted, but at the same time she clearly evokes a lot of negative feelings. But the fact that people would threaten to kill her, how do you feel about that?

SH: I just can’t imagine anybody being that adamant one way or the other, actually. That’s just one out of many thousands. So, it sure doesn’t happen too much.

CH: No.

SH: And as far as all these negative feelings, I don’t know, everybody seems so nice to us.

JL: On a less extreme level, she has faced huge criticism and very personal criticism at times. How do you cope with that?

SH: I can’t imagine what specifically they would object to, and that’s what I would like to hear and what I imagine Sarah would like to hear: ‘well, what specifically do you not like?’ And when we do read comments and then someone’s asked, and they’ll say ‘well someone told me, such and such’. But truly, I do not know.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12654953

So hav at it haters. pick apart this interview, question the tenor of what was said, find fault so you can dehumaize GOv Palin. Downplay the threats to her and her kids. I know it’s what you do. so get to work…..And know that when Gov Palin talks about Tuson shooting she knows from personal events that there but for the grace of god goes she.

And yet she still engages and stands up for her principles and her belief in this country…..but I know haters, she just does it for the money. She brushes off the death threats to her and her children because she wants the cash and fame. Is that it haters? Is that why she does it?

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 9:54 AM

If Palin has no chance as you believe then there’s no harm in her running … right? I mean, isn’t that what primaries are for?

darwin on March 6, 2011 at 6:44 PM

So valid it needs repeating. Why do the PDS folks care if she runs? Every primary has participants that people think don’t have a snow-balls chance of winning

They don’t have to donate to her primary run. They don’t need to campaign for her. You’d think they’d be happy with the opportunity for everyone to see if she is the stupid idiot they think she is. You’d think they be spending all their time signing the praises of whichever potential nominee they like instead of whining about how “she’s unelectible, she’s polarizing, her supporters suck.“. As a tentative Palin supporter I have to say that being called names certainly isn’t going to motivate me to switch to some other candidate if she doesn’t run or flames out. Being insulted only ratchets up my FU mindset.

katiejane on March 7, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Why do the PDS folks care if she runs?
katiejane on March 7, 2011 at 9:56 AM

Becaus ethey know we outnumber them and surround them. they know because they have Reagan as a shinning example that the people given a choice of a one of the people will choose them instea dof some countryvlub elite that could care less about our problems. They know they are the subsect of a subsect in this country. And that the great “unwashed” out number them by the 100′s of millions and they know that Palin upsets their power.

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 10:00 AM

well so much for the meme tha tPalin can’t handle a hostile interview…..

JL: What are the criticisms that have hurt you most? One of the big ones that’s thrown at you is that you’re not intellectually capable. Does that sting?

SP: Who said that?

JL: Lots of criticism about the interviews you have given, the ability to get your head around foreign policy.

SP: Well, how about the idea of perhaps what some of the media has chosen to portray. Let’s take a couple of examples – and I don’t really want to have to talk politics on one of the best days of our life here in Alaska – but I’ll give you one more answer. Things like, that are misconstrued regarding rumours out there that are still in the media because reporters don’t do their homework, too often, and they don’t set the record straight – though I think it’s their job to set the record straight – rumours like I didn’t know that Africa was a continent, that’s still out there, that’s a lie. Things like I censored books when I was a mayor up here in Alaska, that’s a lie.

[Governor Palin begins to walk away]

SP: So again if I decide to run we know that we have to put up with a lot of the BS that comes from the media but … It’s not all of you guys but some of you still claim that Trig isn’t my kid. I think that’s an indication of screwed-up media.

JL: You were saying, your favourite from the media? Which one is that?

SP: Is that trig is not my child, which is still out there in the media.

JL: How offensive is that? How do you deal with that?

SP: Would you be offended if someone said you’re child wasn’t your child? It’s offensive. OK, you know what, I’m really really trying to enjoy one of the best days of our lives.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12654239

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM

Becaus ethey know we outnumber them and surround them.

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 10:00 AM

Oh come on.
Those of us who support someone other than Gov. Palin in the primaries(Go T-Paw!) aren’t the enemy…Obama and the Democrats are.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Oh come on.
Those of us who support someone other than Gov. Palin in the primaries(Go T-Paw!) aren’t the enemy…Obama and the Democrats are.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM

I wasn’t aware you had PDS. you don’t seem to have any of the syptoms….

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM

I wasn’t aware you had PDS. you don’t seem to have any of the syptoms….

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 10:59 AM

my answer was for those that have PDS which is what the question asked. Not all supporters of other candidates are PDS sufferers……and not all anti-palin people are haters.

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM

Oh come on.
Those of us who support someone other than Gov. Palin in the primaries(Go T-Paw!) aren’t the enemy…Obama and the Democrats are.

annoyinglittletwerp on March 7, 2011 at 10:53 AM

Then one might wonder why those who support other candidates spend so much time on every HA Palin thread trashing her. Instead of trying to convince her supporters that she’s not electible shouldn’t you be singing Pawlenty’s praises and encouraging AP & Ed to have a T-Paw thread addressing every word said about him?

katiejane on March 7, 2011 at 11:59 AM

I’m sorry but this confrontational tone on a woman won’t come across well with the 10% of the electorate that is squishy and gets their news from Katie Couric or some talking head for 10 second sound bytes in the evening.

This kind of red-meat attack stuff might work well for the base but where is the softer, more polished smoother Candidate.

I guess it doesn’t matter she’s not running.

PappyD61 on March 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM

This kind of red-meat attack stuff might work well for the base but where is the softer, more polished smoother Candidate.

I guess it doesn’t matter she’s not running.

PappyD61 on March 7, 2011 at 1:40 PM

LOL….yeah because Obama didn’t do this…/ I mean really? Did you watch 2008, 2004 or 2000 elections?

I do enjoy people telling Gov Palin to run a general election before a primary election…..It is always fun to watch. Obama won the nomination because he was the most hardcore leftist in the dem field. He ran to the left of Hillary. After he won the nomination and ONLY AFTER he won did he pretend to move to the center…..

seriously…

unseen on March 7, 2011 at 3:01 PM

Man, I just enflamed the Huffington Post. The old joke of “I can see Russia from here” has turned into “I can see Africa from here”….I told them that she is now saying “I can see the White House from here” and that she will kick Obamalinsky’s (actually I referred to him as Commie In Chief, more than likely already scrubbed by ZsaZsa and Co.)ass in during the debates. They really don’t like me over there……..

adamsmith on March 7, 2011 at 10:27 PM

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