Rasmussen: Walker’s approval rating down to 43%; Update: Four GOP senators going wobbly?

posted at 4:55 pm on March 4, 2011 by Allahpundit

A grim follow-up to yesterday’s grim poll on opposition to his collective bargaining bill. Even more painful than the raw numbers is the fact that it’s soft support among Republicans that’s killing him.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Wisconsin Voters finds that just 34% Strongly Approve of the job he is doing, while 48% Strongly Disapprove. Overall, including those who somewhat approve or disapprove, the new Republican governor earns positive reviews from 43% and negative reviews from 57% of voters statewide…

Seventy-three percent (73%) of Wisconsin Republicans approve of the job Walker is doing. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state’s Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove.

Among those who voted for Walker last November, 77% approve of his performance, with 67% who Strongly Approve. As for those who voted for his Democratic opponent, Tom Barrett, 93% disapprove of how Walker is governing, including 88% who Strongly Disapprove.

He won in November with 52 percent of the vote. Per the blockquote, a majority of indies now disapprove of him, but never mind that: If Walker’s approval among Republicans was the same as his disapproval among Democrats, he’d be up near 50 percent. As it is, his rating among likely voters in Wisconsin is lower than the Unicorn Prince’s job approval among adults nationwide. Gulp.

From what I’ve seen of him, this won’t shake him a bit. Will it shake Senate Republicans? Stephen Moore has a reminder at the Journal this afternoon that all it would take to kill the bill is for three of them to go wobbly. One, Dale Schultz, has been pushing to make the bill a temporary two-year fix and pointedly didn’t attend the GOP “unity” rally a few days ago, so he’s already a lost cause. But the other 18 senators did attend, which makes me think we’re well past the point of no return here. Besides, what would they gain by caving? It would enrage Republicans, energize Democrats, and encourage unions. Maybe the recall petitions against them would be dropped, but even that’s not guaranteed: When asked about it a few days ago, the head of the Wisconsin Democratic Party refused to promise that they’d end the recall effort in exchange for killing the bill.

Worst of all, to cave now would be to appease the obstructionist fleebagging Democrats for delaying the vote. There’s no doubt the bill would have passed weeks ago had they not skipped town; to switch now would be to reward them for doing so. Come to think of it, the most painful thing about this poll isn’t the GOP data, it’s the fact that the fugitive Dems probably did do some damage to Walker politically by buying time for protesters to sway public opinion with their “drum circle for freedom” shtick in the Capitol. Republican caucuses in other states with quirky quorum rules like Wisconsin’s must, must retaliate for that the next time they have an opportunity. If the Democrats want to mainstream this tactic, that’s fine. From now on, whenever a blue state pushes a bill to raise spending — or better yet, to give away more goodies to their crooked PEU cronies and the union shills cheering them on in the White House — just skip town. Scram. Say you’re doing it to protect taxpayers and point to the original fleebaggers in Madison as inspiration. Quid pro quo.

Update: I’m skeptical, but lefty Greg Sargent points to this local news report claiming that no fewer than four Republican senators are wavering on the collective bargaining bill. Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

Sargent also cites the Moore story I linked above, but there’s actually no hard evidence in that piece of anyone rethinking his or her position. It simply says that conservatives in the state are nervous, which may just be an artifact of the recent polling. Frankly, the piece reads more like a signal aimed at grassroots righties to rally behind Senate Republicans than a genuine alarm bell.


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The cave is coming. Greg Sargent tweets 4 wobbly Repubs…

crazywater on March 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state’s Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove.

You can’t change the mind of lemmings, no matter how hard you try, or how much fact you put in their way.

They are laser-focused on getting to the bottom of that cliff.

BobMbx on March 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

He should prsent the voters two very clear alternatives…..either they get union spending under control or he fires thousands of workers. This isn’t real complex.

David in ATL on March 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

What percentage of union households were polled?

Last time it was 30% and WI has only 26% union household membership.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

What Walker is doing is practically genius. As the libtards whip themselves up into a lather, OHIO does his bidding. It looks like New Hampshire and Maine is next to repeal collective bargaining. Also, the resolution to arrest the Dems was 19-0, meaning that there are no wobbly Republicans in the caucus.

Apologetic California on March 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM

These polls are awfully tiresome. Why do they so much attention? How about a morning poll and an evening poll?
I think we have a governor here who is going to do the right thing, without regard to the polls.

GaltBlvnAtty on March 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM

This, too, shall pass.

princetrumpet on March 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM

But what is the approval rating of the fleebaggers?

Mark1971 on March 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

The only poll that matters is in November 2012.

NeoKong on March 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Even more painful than the raw numbers is the fact that it’s soft support among Republicans that’s really killing him.

I guess they’re called “squishes” for a reason.

ddrintn on March 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Walker ends up saving the state’s ass, those numbers will change.

GarandFan on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Doing what’s necessary and right isn’t always popular.

One can lead, or just follow the polls.

I like leaders myself.

gary4205 on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

These polls are awfully tiresome. Why do they so much attention? How about a morning poll and an evening poll?

GaltBlvnAtty on March 4, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Good question. Where were all the polls showing ObamaCare’s unpopularity during the health care debate?

ddrintn on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Whatevah….I still don’t care about these polls. They’re set up specifically to get the results THEY want and not the truth.

sicoit on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

When the voters see how his reforms will bring the budget under control, and solve many of the problems ailing Wisconsin, his poll numbers will bounce back plus some extra.

Keep Fighting Scott.

portlandon on March 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Chris Christie: “I love collective bargaining rights.”

portlandon on March 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Of course his numbers are down. No matter what side of the political spectrum you’re on, you can’t be pleased at the sight in Madison. Walker is gonna get some of the blame, even from those who agree with his stance.

The guy is thinking long-term here though. If he was interested in short-term victories, he would’ve accepted the union concessions weeks ago. Ironically, it’s kinda like Obama’s statement last year that he’d rather be a successful one-termer than a failed two-termer. Except that Walker’s actually laying the groundwork for fiscal sanity, unlike Barry.

Doughboy on March 4, 2011 at 5:02 PM

Don’t Cave, Stay Strong. You’ll win in the end

Kini on March 4, 2011 at 5:03 PM

The cave is coming. Greg Sargent tweets 4 wobbly Repubs…

crazywater on March 4, 2011 at 4:58 PM

I don’t know how reliable that WaPo moonbat is. Maybe wish-fulfillment.

ddrintn on March 4, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Show leadership and guts now. He’s not up for reelection until 2014 by then the budgets will be balanced, the econom will most likely be better.

And he will look like a tough, principled man of conviction who led his citizens out of the wilderness.

swamp_yankee on March 4, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Republican caucuses in other states with quirky quorum rules like Wisconsin’s must, must retaliate for that the next time they have an opportunity.

Really, AP? I’d like to see an HA poll about this.

pseudonominus on March 4, 2011 at 5:03 PM

Oh, and other thing. Chris Christie also saw his poll numbers dip when he started taking on the unions in a very public and ugly manner. A year later, his ratings have rebounded and he’s getting all kinds of hype from the media about running for President. Walker just needs to hang in there.

Doughboy on March 4, 2011 at 5:04 PM

Republican caucuses in other states with quirky quorum rules like Wisconsin’s must, must retaliate for that the next time they have an opportunity.

Yeah, right. And then be treated to a steady course of “78% of public thinks fleeing Rep legislators are scum…”

ddrintn on March 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Wisconsin has one chance here, to push back organized leftists. If the GOP flounders, it’s over, everything. The Wisconsin state government will be wholly owned by organized labor, and the democrat party for another fifty years.

Skandia Recluse on March 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Walker ends up saving the state’s ass, those numbers will change.

GarandFan on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Exactly. He’s trying to find ways to balance the budget without having to cut the jobs of 1300 state employees.

Ingrateful b@stards.

UltimateBob on March 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Leaders don’t always poll well, but they still manage to get reelected while getting the job done.

Hening on March 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM

here’s a piece of the NRO article about dividing the bill into 3 bills, by Lindgren

But the Republican majority leader, Scott Fitzgerald, assured Ryan Foley of the AP that he will not attempt to pass any part of the budget-repair bill without the return of the Democrats. One cannot be sure, but this reluctance to sever the bill may be because some Republican senators are willing to vote for a budget bill overall but not for a bill that solely targets union bargaining rights.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/261182/new-strategy-wisconsin-michael-potemra?page=2

the cave is coming…and i’m afraid it is going to look very bad….the Left will run with this all over and into 2012. The ads make themselves.

We are doomed

r keller on March 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Another poll full of malarkey!

Do you think you could find a poll or two that is positive
for the conservative side?

Amjean on March 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM

why do you care?

rob verdi on March 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Walker has been pounded mercilessly for weeks now by a sympathetic media. You should expect suspect polls like this to look bad.
He appears to be the real deal and isn’t going squishy. Wisconsin conservatives need to man up and get back in the fight.

Sugar Land on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

the cave is coming…and i’m afraid it is going to look very bad….the Left will run with this all over and into 2012. The ads make themselves.

We are doomed

That is me saying that…should not be in the quote

r keller on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

What is it with these folks. They vote for fiscal reform and then cry foul when they get it. These people deserve whatever nasty fate awaits their over spending.

jeanie on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Options:

1. Severe the bill, and pass the part on collective bargaining ahd other non-fiscal matters without the Dems. Start sending out notices for layoffs, while the Dems sit in Illinois holding out the the fiscal matters relating to PEU member contributions.

2. Keep the bill intact, but carve out a mickey-mouse provision or two as bones to throw to the Dems. Just make sure that they’re meaningless. For example, I’m scratching my head about the annual recertification of the PEUs. How about every two years or every three years? Annually creates a considerable administrative burden. But don’t give up on the union dues withholding. Make the PEU members feel the pain of writing that check.

3. Others?

For crying out loud. Recall threats notwithstanding, if Walker really believes this will help the state, do it. He’s got three and a half years to show that he was correct.

BuckeyeSam on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Update: I’m skeptical, but lefty Greg Sargent points to this local news report claiming that no fewer than four Republican senators are wavering on the collective bargaining bill. Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

There’s a good reason to be skeptical. The report was generated on March 1st. The vote to arrest the Dems came the day after when ALL Republicans voted for it.

Apologetic California on March 4, 2011 at 5:08 PM

If there were no Palin news and no negative polls, what would Allah post? Why not just save some typing and link directly to HuffPo and Kos when it’s time for some hit generation?

SirGawain on March 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM

It’s like a waking nightmare that I had over two years ago. It keeps playing out, not matter how much I kick and scream. Just seems to make it worse.

betsyz on March 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Also, the poll was taken when Walker released his budget for the next two years which included billions of cuts. I don’t know any single governor, Democrat or Republican, that became popular after introducing an austere budget.

Apologetic California on March 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM

just skip town. Scram. Say you’re doing it to protect taxpayers and point to the original fleebaggers in Madison as inspiration. Quid pro quo.

Impertinent versus civilized, sums up the parties.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM

Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

You’re damned right. I’ll send money to support any effort to recall these republicans if they fold.

portlandon on March 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

What is it with these folks. They vote for fiscal reform and then cry foul when they get it. These people deserve whatever nasty fate awaits their over spending.

jeanie on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

This

Kataklysmic on March 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Impertinent wins.

The moochers of the U.S. and their elites, deserve the inevitable movement toward total average and poverty.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

“Dewey defeats Trueman!”

If polls are the mitigating factor in budget sanity, we are screwed.

The majority of Americans are debt burdened, in underwater mortgages and average credit score has declined by 15%…

i.e. Too dumb to manage their own finances, let alone a state budget. Thank god for a representative republic!

Odie1941 on March 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Well, I really do think that after all these polls, the GOP is going to break.

He can get recalled after a year in office, and if his numbers are still this bad, he may very well lose.

This has been a blue state for awhile, and the Democrats will just give the unions whatever they want if they get back into power.

If they have a hail mary to get this passed, they better do it now.

WisCon on March 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM

If there were no Palin news and no negative polls, what would Allah post? Why not just save some typing and link directly to HuffPo and Kos when it’s time for some hit generation?

I apologize. Please disregard this post and return to fantasyland where the polling on this issue is fantastic.

Not sure why you’re reading this site if all you want is someone to tell you what you want to hear. And since when is *Rasmussen* some sort of proxy for HuffPo or Kos?

Allahpundit on March 4, 2011 at 5:11 PM

Hang in there.

the_nile on March 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM

On the Update – good thing the revolution wasn’t fought today.

Eunuchs the world over, rejoice.

Schadenfreude on March 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM

What Walker is doing is instructive to the remainder of the country.

If the Union thugs and their fellow travelers do win in Wisconsin, then let them feast upon whats left of the State’s corpse. Resolve is being steeled in other states and they may not be able to jump so easily to a new host when Wisconsin’s bones are picked clean.

The Chewbacca Defense on March 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Walker has been pounded mercilessly for weeks now by a sympathetic media. You should expect suspect polls like this to look bad.
He appears to be the real deal and isn’t going squishy. Wisconsin conservatives need to man up and get back in the fight.

Sugar Land on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Maybe I haven’t watched Walker that closely from here in Ohio, but beyond making that fiscal point that the WI PEU members need to contribute something toward their pension fund and health care (current and retiree–which virdually nobody has in the private sector), I don’t see where Walker is connecting the dots for the folks WHY the collective bargaining rights need to be curtailed. He’s not making that case in a clear, concise, and convincing manner. And the shame of it is that he’s on the side of the angels.

Right now, I feel like a Red Sox fan watching the slow roller approaching Bill Buckner down the first base line. Is Walker actually going to blow this? Somebody wake him up.

BuckeyeSam on March 4, 2011 at 5:14 PM

The unions handed Ahnold his butt to him in Califoria… Now this… sure makes that fellow from New Jersey more impressive.

El_Terrible on March 4, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Oh who cares.. It’s just a reflection of all the BS the state is going through. When the budget is balanced and things get on track, the polls will move.

shar61 on March 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Politicians, especially conservatives, or Republicans need to decide once, and for all. Are you running, to make this a career, complete with perks, and power? Or are you there, to do what’s best for your local, state or country?

My guess is, it’s the former. Unfortunately. If you don’t get re-elected…so be it. But at least you can hold your head high, and know you did what was best, all around.

capejasmine on March 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM

As it is, his rating among likely voters in Wisconsin is lower than the Unicorn Prince’s job approval among adults nationwide. Gulp.

Only a couple of points difference really. Not so much.

I think that some people feel that Walker should have compromised. I don’t think he will myself, but I do think that is where some of the bad numbers come from. After all, this is Wisconsin..and I also bet that a lot of people in Wisconsin know someone who is in one of those unions. They might feel intellectually that is necessary to make these cuts, but over time they have started to feel bad about cutting people’s benefits.

Who knows? This is what the guy was elected to do..I guess it just goes to show you that people are fickle. I hope none of the Republicans up there go wobbly..after all, what would be the point in going wobbly now?

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:17 PM

If Walker’s approval among Republicans was the same as his disapproval among Democrats, he’d be up near 50 percent.

Ridiculous. I find it very hard to believe there are as many Republicans as Democrats in Wisconsin. Which is the ONLY way your math could possibly add up.

Wisconsin has a huge Democratic base.

In the midst of the apoplectic shrieking of the Democrats for the last 2+ weeks, a 9 point drop is amazingly good.

I see this poll as a plus, not a negative.

ButterflyDragon on March 4, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Hold the line, if you truly believe it is right you will follow through on it. Unlike Obama with Obamacare, Walker was open in his campaign about where he stood on this issue and the GOP should stand by their principles and be willing to accept any misguided consequences. The libs have been distancing themselves from Obamacare since it passed – I do not want to see the Wisconsin GOP do the same.

Daemonocracy on March 4, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Christie dropped into the 40s at one point too, that’s what happens when you rile up the liberal base and they attack you 24/7.

Daemonocracy on March 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM

seriously, why are people pissing themselves over a poll and the comments of a left trying to rally the left and create fake momentum? The governor will not budge, after the sound and the fury thats it.

rob verdi on March 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Oh who cares.. It’s just a reflection of all the BS the state is going through. When the budget is balanced and things get on track, the polls will move.

shar61 on March 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM

I was thinking the same thing. People can’t keep anything in their heads for more than a week or two anymore..once the deal is done these numbers might well get better.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:19 PM

Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

Heh.

the_nile on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I like leaders myself.

gary4205 on March 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM

Amen. Polls are for short-term talking points, not long-term decision making. Our previous President led based on his beliefs, values, experience, and advice of knowledge teams … not popularity polls. God bless him! That takes guts and stamina and responsibility. Here’s hoping the good Gov. Walker stands firm, does what he knows in his heart is right for his state, and lets the long-term positive effect speak for itself.

eucher on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

On the Update – good thing the revolution wasn’t fought today.
Eunuchs the world over, rejoice.
Schadenfreude on March 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Seriously. “75% of colonists disapprove!!! Long live the King!!!”

Here’s an idea. Ignore the f|#$(ing polls, hang in there and do what’s right. Face the music. (I really belive it will be more along the lines of ‘bathe in the accolades’).

Simple. They are going to bombard the GOP with this crap until they settle this thing.

Strap on a pair and stand!!

BigWyo on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Where’s the support for these guy’s!?

They’re in the trenches fighting the good fight they can’t be left to go it alone!!!

Speakup on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

It isn’t the collective bargaining that is the problem. The unions have turned this into collective blackmailing and the phraseology should be collective blackmail as opposed to bargaining.

fourdeucer on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 PM

I imagine those poll numbers will change once the bill passes and peopLe realize that the world did not, in fact, end.

That said, if Republicans cave, we’re doomed as a society. If the new norm is successfully killing legislation by fleeing from the jurisdiction, representative democracy is dead.

Vyce on March 4, 2011 at 5:23 PM

Well we all remember when Newt came in to power with all the plans to cut and balance the budget don’t we? The heat got too great and they backed down. By caving did the Republicans win? No they were tossed out on their butts! Walker and Republicans, just hang in there. If you cave you will be removed anyway, so I say GO FOR IT!

sandee on March 4, 2011 at 5:23 PM

If the Republicans screw this up, they might as well be prepared to get their ass kicked in the next election. Just stand firm, pass the laws and let the voters see what happens in 2 years. If they cave and things improve, they’ll be demogogued because they tried to do stuff that wouldn’t have made any difference.

Stand your ground, show the Democrats for what they are, not good stewards of the Wisconsin economy, and bring things back. It’s about time Republicans stood their ground and did the right thing.

bflat879 on March 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM

TOLD

YOU

SO

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM

The voting is over.

The governing has begun.

faraway on March 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM

The longer he waits, the better it is for the Dems.

If he’s going to be pilloried anyway – just fire the damn teachers and other union workers. Start with the frickin layoffs and do what needs to be done.

He doesn’t need any damn democrats to start firing people.

Then frame it as others above have stated – we didn’t have to do this, but the Democrats made their choice, they forced my hand, now we have X thousand people out of work.

catmman on March 4, 2011 at 5:26 PM

But what is the approval rating of the fleebaggers?

Mark1971 on March 4, 2011 at 5:00 PM

Interesting we haven’t seen any polls on this question. My guess is the fleebaggers don’t poll well either.

bopbottle on March 4, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Update: I’m skeptical, but lefty Greg Sargent points to this local news report claiming that no fewer than four Republican senators are wavering on the collective bargaining bill. Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

There’s a good reason to be skeptical. The report was generated on March 1st. The vote to arrest the Dems came the day after when ALL Republicans voted for it.

Apologetic California on March 4, 2011 at 5:08 PM

That makes me feel better.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:26 PM

The MSM is peppering the battlefield with their artillery.

You never know.

Remember, this now war, we’ve touched the left’s beehive of union thug money, they aren’t going to stop Rule 12′ing us.

joeindc44 on March 4, 2011 at 5:27 PM

By caving did the Republicans win? No they were tossed out on their butts

.Interesting point.

Can you provide a citation of “tossed out on their butts?

While Dole lost the 1996 election thanks to Perot, the GOP wasn’t tossed out of anything.

joeindc44 on March 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Hold the line. If nothing else you’ll be respected. The wobbling Senators, if they cave will have ended their careers.

There is absolutely no reason for the union to control government. Take it back from the socialists/crooks/thugs.

darwin on March 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Interesting we haven’t seen any polls on this question. My guess is the fleebaggers don’t poll well either.

bopbottle on March 4, 2011 at 5:26 PM

I can’t remember who did the poll, maybe Rasmussen, but if I remember correctly only about 25% thought that running away was a good thing.

And if it does become acceptable, then my guess is the Republicans will start doing the same thing.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

Allahpundit’s right. Choose wisely, homies.

ted c on March 4, 2011 at 5:29 PM

If they cave in, this is their last term. They need to pass it, and then continue to make their case that it would be insane to go back to the failed policies dating from the 60′s and 70′s that got them into this mess.

We know what stronger leaders like Nancy Pelosi would do.

forest on March 4, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Just shows once again how useless independents are. They are very easily swayed. Too bad you can’t win an election without them.

echosyst on March 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Between this and some of the comments on Ace’s Social Security thread earlier, damn this is depressing… But, on the glass-half-full side of things, at least it’s Happy Hour time on Friday :)

specialkayel on March 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM

RINO PURGATION Cometh!(sarc).

canopfor on March 4, 2011 at 5:32 PM

I applaud Walker. He’s fought the food fight. But as always there will be a RINO (or 4) in the legislature to turn. For these 4 loser pieces of garbage I present..

The 2011 Snowe-Collins-Specter Award

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Walker needs to get this done now.

The part of his proposal that the unions object to the most, and that is the main reason the Dems fled the State has to do with collective bargaining rights. That part can be dealt with separately without the need for any Dem Senators present. The Republican majority leader in the Senate said they wouldn’t do that, but that was more than a week ago. They need to take that provision out and make it a separate bill and bring it to the floor for a vote. Either the Dems will return to debate it, or it will be passed without them. Either way, it would eliminate their reason for fleeing the State.

Ordinary American on March 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM

Walker has been pounded mercilessly for weeks now by a sympathetic media. You should expect suspect polls like this to look bad.
He appears to be the real deal and isn’t going squishy. Wisconsin conservatives need to man up and get back in the fight.

Sugar Land on March 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM
Maybe I haven’t watched Walker that closely from here in Ohio, but beyond making that fiscal point that the WI PEU members need to contribute something toward their pension fund and health care (current and retiree–which virdually nobody has in the private sector), I don’t see where Walker is connecting the dots for the folks WHY the collective bargaining rights need to be curtailed. He’s not making that case in a clear, concise, and convincing manner. And the shame of it is that he’s on the side of the angels.

Right now, I feel like a Red Sox fan watching the slow roller approaching Bill Buckner down the first base line. Is Walker actually going to blow this? Somebody wake him up.

BuckeyeSam on March 4, 2011 at 5:14 PM

Excellant point – I have been making it for over 2 weeks now.

And thank you for reminding this NY Met fan of one of the greatest moments in his life…

Odie1941 on March 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM

If the Republicans in Wisconsin want to see disapproval, all they need to do is cave in and jack up property taxes by another $1000 per parcel.

Then you will see what REAL disapproval is all about!

Freddy on March 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM

the cave is coming…and i’m afraid it is going to look very bad….the Left will run with this all over and into 2012. The ads make themselves.

We are doomed

r keller on March 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM

Why are we doomed? Ohio is not caving and so far Indiana has done a pretty good job of getting things done. This is Wisconsin, it is one state, there are 49 others.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Just shows once again how useless independents are. They are very easily swayed. Too bad you can’t win an election without them.

echosyst on March 4, 2011 at 5:31 PM

Exactly, they are easily swayed. Pass it. Balance the budget. Remind everyone that nobody had to be fired. Make the case that local municipalities would be going bankrupt as well as the state etc, and they will sway right back after the disasters have been averted. It’s leadership. Bush did it with the surge.

forest on March 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM

They should have separated out the collective bargaining legislation weeks ago and voted on it. He played this badly.

WarEagle01 on March 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM

allahpundit,
maybe you shouldn’t post DAMN as part of the post like the poll really is the end of the world or something, it isn’t.

rob verdi on March 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Why not pass a bill that does not end Collective Bargaining, just pass a bill that gives the State Unions the same benefits as the Federal Unions?

WoosterOh on March 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM

I would love to see a poll that asks if State Unions should have the same benefits as Federal Unions.

WoosterOh on March 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Don’t pull an Arnold, he caved and the predictable budget dookie happened and he got all the blame anyway.

joeindc44 on March 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM

Why are we doomed? Ohio is not caving and so far Indiana has done a pretty good job of getting things done. This is Wisconsin, it is one state, there are 49 others.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Have the Indiana fleebaggers returned? I thought they were still gone.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM

The cave is coming, if not from Walker from others. The character of the modern Republican always will out.

Walker has played this far too augustly. He has not understood the Left. This lack of understanding is proving decisive.

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 5:38 PM

Kinda OT:

Peaceful Union protesters call in bomb threat at Scott Walkers speaking venue.

Peaceful Union protester arrested.

portlandon on March 4, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Watched an old movie last night with George C. Scott..”The Changling”…never saw it before. It’s a ghost story. And you’ll never guess who the villain is, why it’s this vile and greedy Republican senator, and this is pointed out several times. And the whole mess boils down to this fact.

betsyz on March 4, 2011 at 5:40 PM

betsyz on March 4, 2011 at 5:40 PM

That’s the villain every week on Law and Order.

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Look at that. The public agrees with what I’ve been saying this whole time. Whodathunkit!

There’s no doubt the bill would have passed weeks ago had they not skipped town; to switch now would be to reward them for doing so.

So, Allah, what you’re saying here is that the bill could have been successfully jammed down the collective throat of WI without it being read (I’m still curious as to why the utility no-bid contract thing is in there), but once the public had time to consider what the bill actually meant, they realized it was bad policy? Sound like another major piece of legislation that was recently passed, doesn’t it? How’d things go for the party that pushed that, again?

This wasn’t a matter of the unions “changing public opinion”. If support was as strong as we’ve been told, wouldn’t the protests and fleebagging just entrenched the GOP position and drawn the indies towards them? This is a huge power-grab, something even Christie isn’t bold enough to do. The WI public is finally realizing that.

In any event, with these numbers how they are I can guarantee that Romney’s camp is giving high-fives and some heads are rolling at Palin’s Facebook central office.

Rainsford on March 4, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Note that the dems always hold firm. None of this reaching across the aisle BS. We are doomed.

arnold ziffel on March 4, 2011 at 5:44 PM

The voters as poll-ees are probably not as comfortable answering the pollster’s questions as they would be secluded in the voting booth as a voter to pull the most sensible lever. Problem is, and the 2008 Presidential election bears this out as true, the voters can also prove to be quite ignorant.

ericdijon on March 4, 2011 at 5:44 PM

Why not pass a bill that does not end Collective Bargaining, just pass a bill that gives the State Unions the same benefits as the Federal Unions?

WoosterOh on March 4, 2011 at 5:35 PM

I would love to see a poll that asks if State Unions should have the same benefits as Federal Unions.

WoosterOh on March 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM

That is what is skewing the polls, the verbiage about collective bargaining and the disparity between federal and state contracts.

fourdeucer on March 4, 2011 at 5:45 PM

“The right is rarely popular and the popular thing is rarely right.”

Gov. Walker knows that he is doing the right thing and that time is on his side.

As other states work against PEUs, the union’s and the left’s (but I repeat myself) attention will turn away.

Plus it’s only a matter of time before the runaway 14 return.

Religious_Zealot on March 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM

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