Rasmussen: Walker’s approval rating down to 43%; Update: Four GOP senators going wobbly?

posted at 4:55 pm on March 4, 2011 by Allahpundit

A grim follow-up to yesterday’s grim poll on opposition to his collective bargaining bill. Even more painful than the raw numbers is the fact that it’s soft support among Republicans that’s killing him.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Wisconsin Voters finds that just 34% Strongly Approve of the job he is doing, while 48% Strongly Disapprove. Overall, including those who somewhat approve or disapprove, the new Republican governor earns positive reviews from 43% and negative reviews from 57% of voters statewide…

Seventy-three percent (73%) of Wisconsin Republicans approve of the job Walker is doing. Eighty-nine percent (89%) of the state’s Democrats and 56% of voters not affiliated with either of the major parties disapprove.

Among those who voted for Walker last November, 77% approve of his performance, with 67% who Strongly Approve. As for those who voted for his Democratic opponent, Tom Barrett, 93% disapprove of how Walker is governing, including 88% who Strongly Disapprove.

He won in November with 52 percent of the vote. Per the blockquote, a majority of indies now disapprove of him, but never mind that: If Walker’s approval among Republicans was the same as his disapproval among Democrats, he’d be up near 50 percent. As it is, his rating among likely voters in Wisconsin is lower than the Unicorn Prince’s job approval among adults nationwide. Gulp.

From what I’ve seen of him, this won’t shake him a bit. Will it shake Senate Republicans? Stephen Moore has a reminder at the Journal this afternoon that all it would take to kill the bill is for three of them to go wobbly. One, Dale Schultz, has been pushing to make the bill a temporary two-year fix and pointedly didn’t attend the GOP “unity” rally a few days ago, so he’s already a lost cause. But the other 18 senators did attend, which makes me think we’re well past the point of no return here. Besides, what would they gain by caving? It would enrage Republicans, energize Democrats, and encourage unions. Maybe the recall petitions against them would be dropped, but even that’s not guaranteed: When asked about it a few days ago, the head of the Wisconsin Democratic Party refused to promise that they’d end the recall effort in exchange for killing the bill.

Worst of all, to cave now would be to appease the obstructionist fleebagging Democrats for delaying the vote. There’s no doubt the bill would have passed weeks ago had they not skipped town; to switch now would be to reward them for doing so. Come to think of it, the most painful thing about this poll isn’t the GOP data, it’s the fact that the fugitive Dems probably did do some damage to Walker politically by buying time for protesters to sway public opinion with their “drum circle for freedom” shtick in the Capitol. Republican caucuses in other states with quirky quorum rules like Wisconsin’s must, must retaliate for that the next time they have an opportunity. If the Democrats want to mainstream this tactic, that’s fine. From now on, whenever a blue state pushes a bill to raise spending — or better yet, to give away more goodies to their crooked PEU cronies and the union shills cheering them on in the White House — just skip town. Scram. Say you’re doing it to protect taxpayers and point to the original fleebaggers in Madison as inspiration. Quid pro quo.

Update: I’m skeptical, but lefty Greg Sargent points to this local news report claiming that no fewer than four Republican senators are wavering on the collective bargaining bill. Hey, guys? If you’re worried about the liberal recall efforts against you, wait until you see the conservative efforts if you end up caving.

Sargent also cites the Moore story I linked above, but there’s actually no hard evidence in that piece of anyone rethinking his or her position. It simply says that conservatives in the state are nervous, which may just be an artifact of the recent polling. Frankly, the piece reads more like a signal aimed at grassroots righties to rally behind Senate Republicans than a genuine alarm bell.


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Chickens!

Actually, from the beginning I thought they could do some kind of sunset, that can be over-ridden without a quorum.

But people were howling over that kind of thing too.

I still think if they had done that quickly the results would have made the renewal automatic in perpetuity.

If we really believe that curbing the unions will help fix the problems it seems like we could have enough faith in our ideology to put in a sunset provision.

The proof is in the pudding.

petunia on March 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM

The unions will never be on his side, he loses the people if he doesn’t balance the budget.

Angry Dumbo on March 4, 2011 at 5:50 PM

Once again, been there done that. He’s been through this before in Milwaukee county AP. The fleebaggers are actually close to caving and Walker will get his budget repair bill approved along with his other measures.

StevefromMKE on March 4, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Why are we doomed? Ohio is not caving and so far Indiana has done a pretty good job of getting things done. This is Wisconsin, it is one state, there are 49 others.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Have the Indiana fleebaggers returned? I thought they were still gone.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 5:37 PM

I think most of them are still gone, maybe all of them. They are talking about fining them. The thing that is surprising here in Indiana is that Daniels was able to get as much done as he did before they decided to do follow the Wisconsin people and go to Illinois. I don’t think it is working for them here though. Indiana is a lot more conservative than Wisconsin.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:51 PM

They need to just pass the union reforms without the spending and get it over with. And if any Republicans are worried they wont get re-elected if they vote for it, they will be guaranteed to lose if they vote against.

American Elephant on March 4, 2011 at 5:51 PM

Once again, been there done that. He’s been through this before in Milwaukee county AP. The fleebaggers are actually close to caving and Walker will get his budget repair bill approved along with his other measures.

StevefromMKE on March 4, 2011 at 5:51 PM

I hope so.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:52 PM

F*ck polls and get the damn job done… The Liberal money laundering business is going to end one way or another; for me, I’d prefer it end by way of the political process which is what this group of Republicans were voted into office to accomplish.

Keemo on March 4, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Walker needs to issue layoffs today to show he has actions to back up his words.

keioki on March 4, 2011 at 5:53 PM

Folks, you are now watching what I call the “Titanic Effect.” Remember the scene in the movie where the ship is foundering from fore to aft, and passengers are running to wherever they perceive the best chance for survival? Indpendents are pretty much like that. They do not like any kind of mental discomfort or dissonance. They absolutely run from it.

In the present state of things, the ship of state, both on the national and state level, has hit the fiscal iceberg, and the independents see two vexing choices. One, keep going full speed ahead with ruinous spending; or two, address the need for fiscal restraint with all of the pain and displacement such course of action necessarily means in the short term. Independents just keep running back and forth among the wreckage trying to avoid the cold waters of reality.

In my estimation, there is no real solution to this political problem other than letting the political cataclysm run its course. Eventually, we will either sink to the bottom economically, or we we have to actually get down into the hull of the ship and plug the d****ed hole.

Conservatives are going to have to decide that they cannot base their policies on the fickle, panicking voters who wrap their fears in the mantle of “intellectual integrity” or “open mindedness.” They are going to have to do what is right. And, yes, the captain remains on board until the ship either rights itself or it sinks. That’s what leaders do.

In the meantime, unions, favored businesses and all the “right people” will steal away with ill-gotten government largesse, hop in the lifeboats, and paddle away into the shame of night. We can only hope those cowards will be remembered on the day of reckoning.

For the good of your state and country, keep your place of command, Captain Walker.

ObjectionSustained on March 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Recall is a powerful weapon as Wisconsin is showing.Don’t believe the conservatives can do it too line either. The WEA and allied unions will provide not only money but bodies to run phone banks, man petition tables, go door to door. The Tea Parties aren’t even remotely at the same level of political action.My guess is that if Scott stays to his principles, his tenure as governor will be shorter than the established term.He has my admiration because he knows the realities of Wisconsin’s political environment.

xkaydet65 on March 4, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Why are we doomed? Ohio is not caving and so far Indiana has done a pretty good job of getting things done. This is Wisconsin, it is one state, there are 49 others.

Terrye on March 4, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Yea but losing WI will be the big one. Indiana and Ohio pretty much went under the radar. But everyone knows about Wisconsin. Any hope of reforming govt spending just died today. Unions have just learned that they are untouchable.

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 5:58 PM

Actually, from the beginning I thought they could do some kind of sunset, that can be over-ridden without a quorum.

But people were howling over that kind of thing too.

I still think if they had done that quickly the results would have made the renewal automatic in perpetuity.

petunia on March 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM

I think the idea put forward by one of the RINOs who now has defected was a 2 year provision. But it would have reverted back automatically without a vote to extend. I don’t think the communists would have “compromised” to do it the other way, ie sunset that is extended automatically without a vote to not extend.

But politically that would have been better since it showed compromise on the GOP side.

I swear is it so frickin hard for the GOP to find some decent PR people out there to deal with this stuff? We laugh at the Dems each time they mention messaging. But they’re right. It is all about messaging. And the GOP absolutely sucks at it.

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 6:03 PM

If we really believe that curbing the unions will help fix the problems it seems like we could have enough faith in our ideology to put in a sunset provision.

The proof is in the pudding.

petunia on March 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM

You’re exactly right, but unfortunately we flubbed this one, and to move to that now would allow the fleabaggers to claim a win and justify, in the minds of some in the center, a tactic that otherwise would have been a put-off for independents. Now we have to rally. Wisconsin is a weird place to pick this fight too, but it is what it is, and we have to make the best of it given the stakes.

ReformedAndDangerous on March 4, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Walker needs to issue layoffs today to show he has actions to back up his words.

keioki on March 4, 2011 at 5:53 PM

exactamundo….too many deadlines have been passed with nothing to show for them….

just do it!!

cmsinaz on March 4, 2011 at 6:05 PM

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 5:58 PM

But doesn’t Ohio have a lot of electoral votes? More than WI?

jeanie on March 4, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Conservatives are going to have to decide that they cannot base their policies on the fickle, panicking voters who wrap their fears in the mantle of “intellectual integrity” or “open mindedness.” They are going to have to do what is right. And, yes, the captain remains on board until the ship either rights itself or it sinks. That’s what leaders do.

ObjectionSustained on March 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM

*standing ovation*

Kataklysmic on March 4, 2011 at 6:07 PM

ObjectionSustained on March 4, 2011 at 5:54 PM

Very well said.

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 6:08 PM

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 6:08 PM

2nd that

cmsinaz on March 4, 2011 at 6:10 PM

A solid opening salvo, but obviously Walker was never going to represent some union death knell.

ernesto on March 4, 2011 at 6:12 PM

He has dithered too long – enough time for the Dems to set the narrative and do damage. He’s set too many deadlines he didn’t keep, they have him on the ropes. Lost opportunity at this point

silvernana on March 4, 2011 at 6:16 PM

Man/Woman the damn phones . They got this far. Who trusts any polls at this juncture anyway?

sonnyspats1 on March 4, 2011 at 6:18 PM

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 5:42 PM

Yeah, I know. Stopped watching long time ago….Hey, I remember that news story and then Law and Order totally tweaks it to the left. I guess they get a kick out of doing so.

betsyz on March 4, 2011 at 6:20 PM

I swear is it so frickin hard for the GOP to find some decent PR people out there to deal with this stuff? We laugh at the Dems each time they mention messaging. But they’re right. It is all about messaging. And the GOP absolutely sucks at it.

angryed on March 4, 2011 at 6:03 PM

Remember that the MSM does this job for the Democrats – for free. It’s not an even playing field by any means.

WisCon on March 4, 2011 at 6:23 PM

GOP will cave – always has – always will.

HondaV65 on March 4, 2011 at 6:28 PM

Polls in situations like this are next to meaningless. First, I don’t trust the polls and second, if even accurate, who cares? There isn’t any money.

ncjetsfan on March 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM

But doesn’t Ohio have a lot of electoral votes? More than WI?

jeanie on March 4, 2011 at 6:06 PM

Oh has 18, Wis has 10

TheVer on March 4, 2011 at 6:32 PM

here’s why I said “we’e doomed”

1st…I way hope I’m wrong
2nd…I agree that the Rs tough it out…sooner or later this country must try to face down the Left….it is our only hope

Having said that the NRO article outlined a way for the Rs to proceed. This can not be news to them. That is, they’ve known this and have chosen to Not do this on their own. In Not doing this on their own they are trying to make the Dims/Left look like rabble rousers. That part worked. But they also know that in the end they, the Rs, are afraid to pass it.

There was a story about a local R whose office has been targeted by the National Left…it ain’t pretty. The National Left is 10x more powerful than the TP (sorry)

There is a reason that the US is on the brink of being France. That reason is the power of the Left, there is a reason that the Media is Left, that the universities are Left. There is a reason that voters with college degrees adopt Dims as their party….despite the fact that most Dim solutions are irrational, power-mongering emotions that should appeal to only rabble like Kos.

At base, most people when confronted with a problem of this size will retreat into the safety of their known, known…which is “don’t rock the boat”…and that is a formula for disaster for our country

r keller on March 4, 2011 at 6:33 PM

but then, I just saw this in the headlines:

Daley also said he believed taxpayers can no longer finance the current level of government and suggested priorities need to be placed on municipal services that can be privatized or outsourced to cut costs.

Hmmmm…so the Dim Mayor of Chicago now saying this? Like I say, I hope to hell that I’m wrong about us being doomed.

Now, will he say he supports Walker?

r keller on March 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Oh has 18, Wis has 10

TheVer on March 4, 2011 at 6:32 PM

Well then, if we have to sacrifice one of them, let it be WI. If they collapse financially serves them right for not being smart enough to know when they could have had a good thing. Let the teacher’s union own their wallets. I have lost any sympathy I might have once had.

jeanie on March 4, 2011 at 6:42 PM

In the end, Republicans still want the “cool” kids to like them. Sigh.

Hummer53 on March 4, 2011 at 6:43 PM

Walker’s already blown it. He’s let the whole legislature grind to a halt and descend into chaos. Leaders don’t allow this to happen.

I thought for sure Republicans had victory but now I’m not so sure. The Dems have all but corrupted the process and Walker is just standing up there saying “It’s time to get to work”. If that’s all he’s going to do then he’s going to lose.

hisfrogness on March 4, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Good.
Time to lay off a bunch of lazy deadwood. That works for me.

kh6zv9 on March 4, 2011 at 6:45 PM

Bottom line – it’s not in Republicans interest to prolong.
Insisting the vote be on the whole bill isn’t working for Republicans. The Dems aren’t coming back (1) they care more about keeping the union muscle in their corner in their district elections than they do about “average Wisconsin voters”; and (2) the supine media in their corner will do everything it can to minimize the damage for them.

All that’s happening now is Republicans are getting constantly pounded by the media & union thugs. They’ll go wobbly (if they haven’t already).

The Dems say they’re staying out as long as the union reforms are on the table. They can be passed without them – they’re not “fiscal”, so there’s a quorum in Madison to pass them right now.

Pass them. Waiting for a Democrat, any Democrat to return to Madison won’t make the legislation any more “legitimate” to the opponents – neither will it lessen the bile of their opponents. Pass it, get it over with & let the Dems decide whether they want to stay out even though the fight over the “rights” they were “protecting” is over.

As for the “wobblies” – they ought to know going wobbly won’t save them. The Dems won’t want them (or need them) – they’ll prefer a real Dem to a Republican they can roll – & Republicans won’t put up with them.

BD57 on March 4, 2011 at 6:46 PM

I think his poll numbers are down because he has permitted this to go on so long.

He should have had those protesters removed from the capital building long ago (and look how much that inaction is costing the taxpayers).

He should have fired those teachers that called out sick.

He should have attempted to force the republicans to vote on the portion of the bill they don’t need democrats for – namely the end of collective bargaining. Had he done this then the democrats would have been back by now.

But yeah, his numbers are low not because he has stood his ground and the public does not support him. His numbers are down because he is handling these fools with kid gloves.

Virginia Shanahan on March 4, 2011 at 6:46 PM

So I guess that the 24 hour deadline should have had an ‘or what‘ attached to it. Walker seems to make an awful lot of empty threats and ultimatums but he doesn’t seem to be willing to back them up. The Democrats aren’t playing for points, they are playing to win, and it doesn’t seem like Walker (or any Republican) understands that.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 6:50 PM

So I guess that the 24 hour deadline should have had an ‘or what‘ attached to it. Walker seems to make an awful lot of empty threats and ultimatums but he doesn’t seem to be willing to back them up. The Democrats aren’t playing for points, they are playing to win, and it doesn’t seem like Walker (or any Republican) understands that.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 6:50 PM

Well the pink slips are going out this weekend and will be implemented on April 4.Can’t do it any faster than one months notice.

sandee on March 4, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Well the pink slips are going out this weekend and will be implemented on April 4.Can’t do it any faster than one months notice.

sandee on March 4, 2011 at 6:52 PM

Were they fired or just laid off?

Did Walker pass any non-financial bills with the quorum he has?

He seems to want the Democrats to hold hands with him as they Win The Future and that isn’t going to happen.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 6:56 PM

He has dithered too long – enough time for the Dems to set the narrative and do damage. He’s set too many deadlines he didn’t keep, they have him on the ropes. Lost opportunity at this point

silvernana on March 4, 2011 at 6:16 PM

That’s what I think, too. All he did was talk and postured. He should have taken some action at least 2 weeks ago, if not sooner. Issue the layoffs. Pass the new election ID law.

Mirimichi on March 4, 2011 at 6:57 PM

I thought the deadline was Mar. 1…why no layoffs yet? What’s the current status?

(I agree that Walker has dilly dallied on this way too long…he needed to set his deadlines then take action.)

dmarie on March 4, 2011 at 6:58 PM

Walker’s already blown it. He’s let the whole legislature grind to a halt and descend into chaos. Leaders don’t allow this to happen.

I thought for sure Republicans had victory but now I’m not so sure. The Dems have all but corrupted the process and Walker is just standing up there saying “It’s time to get to work”. If that’s all he’s going to do then he’s going to lose.

hisfrogness on March 4, 2011 at 6:44 PM

Correct. He never understood what he was up against. He was looking at the problem from the point of view of managing a negotiation trying to maintain a firm but nobly neutral image instead of realizing that once this conflict was engaged it would be all out war requiring a model more of military leadership.

He’s a nice guy, surely principled, etc., but that stuff doesn’t mean anything in war. This is the inevitable, fundamental flaw of Republicans. It’s reached the point that I don’t believe it’s an issue of stupidity or density anymore but a true psychological defect, a traumatic aversion to going into war with the media and the Left.

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 7:07 PM

http://standwithscott.com/

CWforFreedom on March 4, 2011 at 7:12 PM

The Stupid Party!!

rickyricardo on March 4, 2011 at 7:20 PM

Republicans: Amateurs trying to play in the big leagues!!

rickyricardo on March 4, 2011 at 7:22 PM

If I’m right the state must give a 30 day notice before layoffs can begin. Walker made that announcement today. The clock is ticking. The biggest worry is that some of the GOP senators may be caving. Ohio passed theirs 17-16 with 6 GOP senators joining the 10 demonrats. If the Wisconsin GOP goes cowardly, the state will get what it deserves. Raise the taxes until it covers the public unions and make every taxpayer feel what is happening.

volsense on March 4, 2011 at 7:24 PM

Setting aside the matter of which polls are reliable, I want to ask a more fundamental question: when, exactly, did polling grow to dominate the news cycle?

I don’t remember everything being polls polls polls even twenty years ago. Nowadays it seems like the polling takes up more space than the subjects of the polling do.

Am I mistaken about that, and if I’m not, what’s the purpose? If I’m right, I submit the purpose is to push the topics in the direction desired by the media, and we all know that direction is leftward, overall.

Kensington on March 4, 2011 at 7:30 PM

If Republicans are going wobbly, why did 18 of 19 vote for arrest warrants 24 hours ago?

englishqueen01 on March 4, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Am I mistaken about that, and if I’m not, what’s the purpose? If I’m right, I submit the purpose is to push the topics in the direction desired by the media, and we all know that direction is leftward, overall.

Kensington on March 4, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Its also an implied acknowledgment that we lack leadership. A finger in the wind is how far too many politicians now ‘govern’.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Quick…run get a diaper AP.

winston on March 4, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Its also an implied acknowledgment that we lack leadership. A finger in the wind is how far too many politicians now ‘govern’.

sharrukin on March 4, 2011 at 7:33 PM

Mitt ’12 FTW11!1!

Kensington on March 4, 2011 at 7:36 PM

Saw the headline and my first thought was, “damn”. Scrolled and saw it was AP’s first thought as well.

If the people of WI don’t like this, why in Heaven’s name did they elect Republicans just four months ago?

-Aslan’s Girl

Aslans Girl on March 4, 2011 at 7:37 PM

englishqueen01 on March 4, 2011 at 7:32 PM

Republicans voted, 19-0, to find the Democrats in contempt of the Senate and issued orders to Wisconsin law enforcement to detain them.

WoosterOh on March 4, 2011 at 7:39 PM

Republicans voted, 19-0, to find the Democrats in contempt of the Senate and issued orders to Wisconsin law enforcement to detain them.

My bad. That just makes it better. Why would Republicans vote for it if they’re going to kill the bill?

I was depressed a couple of days ago, but I think that if the bill is signed into law and the world doesn’t end, cooler heads will prevail and Walker’s poll numbers will go up. I also hope recall will fail.

Don’t know the stats, but I’m fairly certain Walker’s still double approval what Jim Doyle was when he left office after 2 disastrous terms.

englishqueen01 on March 4, 2011 at 7:41 PM

If the people of WI don’t like this, why in Heaven’s name did they elect Republicans just four months ago?

Aslans Girl on March 4, 2011 at 7:37 PM

The voters had a temper tantrum.

/Peter Jennings

Kensington on March 4, 2011 at 7:41 PM

Go ahead and cave, chickens. You’re going to go bankrupt if you won’t stop them now.

Don’t come begging to my right-to-work state for a bailout when you do.

Hiya Ciska on March 4, 2011 at 7:47 PM

These senators are scared of running head on into the opposing troops and provoking opposition in their next elections. We need to be behind them in this charge, supporting them as they advance and making sure they know that we will primary them if they stop advancing or retreat. They need to be as afraid of us in the next elections as they are of the unions and their Democrat allies.

Raisedbywolves on March 4, 2011 at 7:47 PM

The rumor of GOP senators considering caving may just be leftwing propaganda. The truth to a liberal is not what the facts reflect, but what they want it to be. Lies justify the means if it attains the result desired.

volsense on March 4, 2011 at 7:53 PM

The rumor of GOP senators considering caving may just be leftwing propaganda. The truth to a liberal is not what the facts reflect, but what they want it to be. Lies justify the means if it attains the result desired.

volsense on March 4, 2011 at 7:53 PM

Truthful. Perhaps someone’s getting a sense that the Dems are wavering so they toss this nugget out there to keep the opposition in line.

hisfrogness on March 4, 2011 at 7:59 PM

I just can’t see the public supporting sustained Democrat bitterness/childishness/anger through November when recall would be able to start. Just can’t.

englishqueen01 on March 4, 2011 at 8:04 PM

This is the inevitable, fundamental flaw of Republicans. It’s reached the point that I don’t believe it’s an issue of stupidity or density anymore but a true psychological defect, a traumatic aversion to going into war with the media and the Left.

rrpjr on March 4, 2011 at 7:07 PM

Walker doesn’t come across as the most charismatic guy. Reagan knew how to use the media. That’s why everyone loves him.

For me the real story here is how the Dem and union behavior in WI is a complete expose of how liberals don’t give a crap about anything but winning. It’s all they care about. Decency, lawful conduct, the constitution are all meaningless to liberals. All their talk about freedom, equality and justice are just catch phrases to win elections.

hisfrogness on March 4, 2011 at 8:08 PM

For me the real story here is how the Dem and union behavior in WI is a complete expose of how liberals don’t give a crap about anything but winning. It’s all they care about. Decency, lawful conduct, the constitution are all meaningless to liberals. All their talk about freedom, equality and justice are just catch phrases to win elections.

Bingo. And I think that’s the part we have to absolutely hammer them with.

The childish and petty behavior is outrageous. As I said above, I don’t think it will last until November, at least in the general public that will get fed up at being told they should be outraged about Walker all the time.

englishqueen01 on March 4, 2011 at 8:11 PM

I hope Walker stands tough and I think he will but his colleagues in the State legislature I’m not so sure about.

I got a bad feeling about this.

Yakko77 on March 4, 2011 at 8:31 PM

Once again, polls show that Wisconsinites want public employee unions to have CBA rights, They also want low taxes and fiscal sanity.

These positions are no longer reconcilable. Tomorrow is today. That’s why the US is “a republican form of government,” and not a democracy: we elect people (and unelect them) to make the choices we can’t collectively make. You can no longer punt: you have to pick one side.

Given the choice between PE bennies and taxes, guess which choice will result in you losing your seat?

HitNRun on March 4, 2011 at 8:37 PM

Ah, so the GOP Losership is alive and well in WI. Go figure!

drfredc on March 4, 2011 at 8:47 PM

If the Dems regain the majority in the legislature through recall elections, you can bet they will drop the notion of having public employees contribute to their pensions and health care benefits like a hot potato. State employee unions will feel like the 10,000 pound gorilla and they will throw that weight around. Any “Independent” who supports a recall over “compromise” will feel it big time in the wallet through higher taxes.

KW64 on March 4, 2011 at 9:20 PM

How’s about we ban all Federal Funding to any State that cannot balance it’s budget and is stealing from future taxpayers.

Tax all public unions at a higher rate than private union employees

cntrlfrk on March 4, 2011 at 9:23 PM

Fine. We always complain because nothing gets done. Now, a Republican gets elected and does exactly what he said he would do and the people want to dump him. Fine, if this is where we are at, if this is what we’ve come to, we deserve a bankrupt America.
God bless Walker, though!

JellyToast on March 4, 2011 at 9:25 PM

Fine. We always complain because nothing gets done. Now, a Republican gets elected and does exactly what he said he would do and the people want to dump him. Fine, if this is where we are at, if this is what we’ve come to, we deserve a bankrupt America.
God bless Walker, though!

JellyToast on March 4, 2011 at 9:25 PM

@Jelly, I feel the exact same way. I’m really concerned about the state of America today. But what really gets me depressed is the American people’s attitude.

JeffVader on March 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM

AP – Why does Walker (or any other politician) have to follow the polls?

Why are you ALWAYS citing negative polls to the rest of us, presumably to make us change course and throw in the towel???

I really don’t care about polls. If Walker has a set of balls, he won’t worry about your blog posts; he won’t worry about my ‘position’, one way or another.

A leader LEADS! A leader makes up his/her mind according to what he/she believes is right…And that is what determines the course a true leader takes. That is the route Mr. Reagan and Mrs Thatcher took, and I suspect history will view them very kindly for their courageous leadership.

AP, I realize this is an utterly foreign concept to you because ‘hits’ on your blog are all important. Thus you cite poll numbers as sole determinant of the way our politicians should cast their vote(s).

Sorry; you’re out of touch.

alwyr on March 4, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Nice… Then the democrats could come back from hiding with smiles on their faces and they become the heroes.

shar61 on March 4, 2011 at 9:43 PM

From what I’ve seen of him, this won’t shake him a bit. Will it shake Senate Republicans?

The Oppressive-Left will use this to attack Republicans NO MATTER THE OUTCOME!!!

Stick to your guns, people!

[Disclaimer: No violent rhetoric was intended by the use of that word, or that anyone has a predilection for unusual fetishes with adhesives, thank you]

Chip on March 4, 2011 at 9:50 PM

The public’s negative opinion of Walker should hardly be a urprise as the media has been biased against him including the girly boy (Shep Smith) at FNC.

Until conservatives declare war on the medis to make the public more aware of media bias this will continue.

Remember, the media only meeds to fcol the public one day – November 6, 2012 to screw us for another four years.

bw222 on March 4, 2011 at 9:51 PM

Democrats are at least smart enough to know that polls are polls and power is power. That’s why they ignore the polls for decision-making whereas Republican decision-making is entirely poll controlled. That is also why almost all lasting legislation (UNFORTUNATELY)is Democratic. I pray that Walker has learned this lesson and will not turned jelly-kneed as Republicans are wont to do.

MaiDee on March 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM

I vaguely remember that as Paul Volcker pushed forward with high interest rates and tight monetary policy with RR’s blessing, Reagan took a hit in the polls as well. Same story when he put the missiles in Eastern Europe, invaded Granada, Iran-Contra, yada, yada, yada. You don’t poll well when you take candy from the baby. You do better later on, when the workers of the world all have jobs as a result.

FalseProfit on March 4, 2011 at 9:58 PM

So Walker and Barry have the same approval ratings. Where are all the stories taking about how Barry is in deep, deep trouble with the voters unless he changes his agenda immediately? In fact, didn’t I recently see some stories about how “unbeatable” Barry is going to be? While it’s big news that “only” 34% “strongly approve” of Walker’s performance as governor, only 27% strongly approve of Barry’s performance as president in today’s Rasmussen poll. So the news seems to be: as bad as things might look for Scott Walker, they’re worse for Barry. Where’s that story?

Rational Thought on March 4, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Why does this matter?

Why is this still an issue?

How many ultimatums must be offered before the line is redrawn again, and again, and again?

FIRE. EVERYONE. TODAY.

STOP. F@#$ING. AROUND.

Walker’s losing my approval by the minute as well – for doing what’s supposed to have been done, what needs to be done, and what was threatened to be done days ago.

Seriously, it surprises the hell out of me to check the news every day and *not* hear that the WI government is shut down, that tens of thousands of WI government workers have been fired, etc.

F@#$ING. DO. IT… or STFU and cave to the fleebaggers already. With every day that passes, we get more squishy f@#$wit Republicans and worse polling numbers, and less resolve, and adjusted timetables and ultimatums.

FFS.

Midas on March 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM

AllahPundit and his ilk live for this. They LOVE to see Conservatives flame out. The laugh their rearends off about it and make money writing about it. Do they care that the end result means catastrophe for the nation’s economy. Hell no! The push squishy Republican RINOs with no backbones on us just so they can watch us squirm when they do the inevitable: cave in on their squishy selves. Why do we let them make up our minds for us with polling data and the constant piping of “don’t expect anything but politics as usual”. You can’t make changes. It’s just not possible.

Makes you wonder why they like Christie so much if his so good at doing EXACTLY what they say can’t happen. Could it be that Christie is REALLY one of them? Hmmmm……

Sultry Beauty on March 4, 2011 at 11:41 PM

FIRE. EVERYONE. TODAY.

STOP. F@#$ING. AROUND.

Walker’s losing my approval by the minute as well – for doing what’s supposed to have been done, what needs to be done, and what was threatened to be done days ago.

Seriously, it surprises the hell out of me to check the news every day and *not* hear that the WI government is shut down, that tens of thousands of WI government workers have been fired, etc.

F@#$ING. DO. IT… or STFU and cave to the fleebaggers already. With every day that passes, we get more squishy f@#$wit Republicans and worse polling numbers, and less resolve, and adjusted timetables and ultimatums.

FFS.

Midas on March 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM

Walker bit off more than he could chew on this one. He should have stuck to the financial concessions and let it go at that. Also, singling out teachers was a bad move. There are thousands of teachers in that state, thus thousands more spouses, thousands more family members of those teachers, thousands of friends and acquaintances and thousands more of students who like at least one of their teachers, and thousands more who are no longer in school who view some of this as unfair.

Then we can mention the thousands of police officers, firefighters and other state/local employees who are sympathetic and on top of that private sector union members.

I posted here a couple of weeks ago that this could backfire (on Walker and thus the Tea Party and Conservatism and Republicans). Attacking unions is one thing, but attacking teachers as all being lazy, stupid, and so on just makes us look ignorant. Even if some are, doesn’t matter. You’re dealing with public perception and people’s own personal experiences with teachers, and the LSM will have a field day in the future over this.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 5, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Sargent is a known lying leftist. Don’t believe him.

As to the polls, damn them! Walker is doing what needs to be done. If the Democrats can just whine and protest and make everyone back down from doing the right thing, the whole country is doomed. Stock up on canned food, seed, and ammo.

Actually, I doubt any of the WI GOP Senators are wavering at all. They’ve come this far and they know what they have to do.

The only one who gets wobbly is AP when AoS is pounding him from behind.

Adjoran on March 5, 2011 at 12:48 AM

I wish all the polling firms would go belly up. Is there anything more stupid and pointless than neverending polling data on every conceivable topic on the planet?

I want my leaders to do what they think is right, not change their course of action every ten seconds based on what 1,000 random dimwits told someone on the phone. Besides- why do I care what my stupid neighbor with ten brain cells in his head cares about anything, let alone important topics he probably actually knows nothing about?

Most people are helpless, clueless dolts who can barely make it through the day without blowing themselves up with their oven…what most people think is wholly unimportant. I wish more people would understand that and stop acting based on polls.

TheBlueSite on March 5, 2011 at 2:50 AM

Attacking unions is one thing, but attacking teachers as all being lazy, stupid, and so on just makes us look ignorant.

Have you seen the protests? We had teachers shutting down schools for days on end while comparing Walker to Hitler/Mubarek, befouling our Capitol Building while threatening violence against those not holding the same opinion.

All Walker did was lift up the rock. They exposed themselves for what they are.

englishqueen01 on March 5, 2011 at 5:46 AM

There is one certainty that always accompanies real character and firm principle: they hate you!

Don L on March 5, 2011 at 9:14 AM

Polls can always be skewed the way the dems want them to come out. There have been rumors of repubs waffling since day one. Why doesn’t the media in WI ask of the fleebaggers who is paying your bills and telling you what to do? Local legislators are not always the brightest bulbs in the room. That’s why they stick to talking points.

Kissmygrits on March 5, 2011 at 9:17 AM

If 4 republicans are on the fence it is not a problem. The other 15 republicans just go to on the lam to stop a quaram.

TomLawler on March 5, 2011 at 9:25 AM

Whoops. Quorum not quaram.

TomLawler on March 5, 2011 at 9:37 AM

Have you seen the protests? We had teachers shutting down schools for days on end while comparing Walker to Hitler/Mubarek, befouling our Capitol Building while threatening violence against those not holding the same opinion.

All Walker did was lift up the rock. They exposed themselves for what they are.

englishqueen01 on March 5, 2011 at 5:46 AM

We already knew what the Leftists are like.

Dr. ZhivBlago on March 5, 2011 at 12:25 PM

I strongly disapprove of Walker’s allowing demonstrators to make a filthy mess of his capital building by camping there overnight. He should have been firm about it, doors close, electricity goes off, and demonstrators exit the building at closing time. Of course, the converse must take place, when the doors open the demonstrators can troop back in.

I also disapprove if his choice for partially removing collective bargaining. He should have EXPLICITLY had the House Republicans write into the law that the wording from US statutes regarding collective bargaining by Federal employees as of this date be incorporated into the law they were writing. Make it very clear that Wisconsin is doing no more than the Federal government has done all along. I disapprove of his muffing his strategy.

I also disapprove if his not taking advantage of the missing Senators stalling progress by not instituting a statewide right to work statute.

But, then, with my disapproval and $5.00 you can often get a cup of coffee. And in Wisconsin my disapproval should not matter a bit except to those sorry souls who might be upset by this Californians view of a state almost doing it right.

{^_^}

herself on March 5, 2011 at 3:40 PM

I stand with Walker. The teacher’s union should be ashamed of itself and the public outrage should focused on their behavior.

SC.Charlie on March 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM

Walker is doing the right thing but the American public will onlypay lip service to wanting things changed and be brought back under control. When actually someone steps up to do something to make that so, they found the medicine they have to take unpalatable. America on the way to be Greece will continue.

bayview on March 5, 2011 at 7:47 PM

When the left wing hates you, you must be doing something good.

Roy Rogers on March 6, 2011 at 5:39 PM

They need to stick it out. Time is on their side. I say they start rolling other laws through that do not require the Dems to be there. 4 years from now (I assume it is 4 in WI) the people of WI will be happy that their state is stronger financially. Sure the unions will still hate him, but that will happen either way.

And for the senators who are wobbly…”We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.” – Ben Franklin

That is one of the few quotes of Ben Franklin’s that I like.

jeffn21 on March 7, 2011 at 3:38 PM

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