Democrats’ new budget proposal: Let’s trim our $1.5 trillion deficit this year by cutting another … $6.5 billion

posted at 9:37 pm on March 3, 2011 by Allahpundit

It’s not even one half of one percent of the deficit. And of course, true to the form they perfected in ObamaCare, they’re relying on a cheap, fraudulent accounting gimmick to make it seem more impressive than it is. How do you turn $6 billion in cuts into $50 billion? Easy: Just use White House math.

The White House gets to this by using as the baseline for cuts the president’s never-enacted FY2011 budget, which was for $1.1283 trillion.

The House Republicans’ budget, H.R. 1, was $1.026 trillion, hence the difference is $102.3 billion.

The president’s FY2011 budget never was enacted, so a series of temporary spending bills have passed instead. The original temporary spending bill represented in totality $40.8 billion less in spending that the president’s original proposal. The one the president signed into law yesterday – funding the government until March 18 – represents another $4 billion in cuts.

Therefore, the White House argues the president has already essentially agreed to $44.8 billion in spending cuts from his original proposal. Add the current $6.5 billion in new cuts proposed today and voila! – roughly half of $100 billion.

In other words, the day after the Postal Service said it’ll soon be out of cash and the GAO reported $48 billion in bogus Medicare payments, rather than get down to the business of digging the country out of an almost inconceivably gigantic hole of debt, the White House is trying to minimize cuts by pointing to a higher budget that was never even enacted as a baseline. The GOP could frame its own proposal to cut $61 billion similarly by citing Rand Paul’s plan to eliminate $500 billion in spending this year and then claiming that they’ve already “compromised” by accepting $439 billion in spending from that. In fact, how’s this for meeting the Democrats halfway while setting our own baseline? Instead of Paul’s draconian half-trillion cut, the GOP will demand a cut of “only” $250 billion. Good enough? The difference is, that move would at least address the excruciating fiscal reality in which we now find ourselves instead of fleeing into fantasy. One and a half trillion in liabilities and six measly billion offered to reduce it: There’s the “reality-based” proposal for you.

Exit question: Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown? Their offer’s not just fraudulent, it’s insulting.


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This smells like Valarie Jarrett.

SouthernGent on March 3, 2011 at 9:39 PM

Boehner knows that if he is seen as the party responsible for a government shutdown, he will be a huge target in the press, with the opposition, etc. He has to walk a fine line here. He’s not stupid.

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 9:41 PM

These people are functionally retarded.

tetriskid on March 3, 2011 at 9:42 PM

Math is really hard if you are a Democrat, but credit cards, now that is easy.

txmomof6 on March 3, 2011 at 9:43 PM

AP, how can the poll results in the last story you posted and this story exist in the same universe?

Weight of Glory on March 3, 2011 at 9:44 PM

This smells like Valarie Jarrett.

SouthernGent on March 3, 2011 at 9:39 PM

What a strangely unpleasant idea.

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Exit question: Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown? Their offer’s not just fraudulent, it’s insulting.

No joke. This is just stupid.

Weight of Glory on March 3, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Now if we can just tax the rich at 90 %. /

CWforFreedom on March 3, 2011 at 9:45 PM

Hand me another strip of duct tape would ya! We got a leak
/Titanic crew

TheVer on March 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM

trying to pull another fast one on the folks isn’t ggoing to work.

hawkman on March 3, 2011 at 9:48 PM

small ‘taters.

ted c on March 3, 2011 at 9:48 PM

Exit question: Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown? Their offer’s not just fraudulent, it’s insulting.

If Boehner crumbles he’ll end up like Gingrich, having lost to the socialists. Stand up now or get brushed into the dustbin.

darwin-t on March 3, 2011 at 9:49 PM

Lefty Feel Good Math!

canopfor on March 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Someone has to make a move here. Screw the polls, screw how the MSM jackmuffins are going to treat them, someone has to step forward and do something. Now.

Bishop on March 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM

Dear President Obama,

Please give me $5 million of your own money.

No? Okay, how about $1 million? That way, you will have SAVED the amount of FOUR MILLION dollars! You can’t pass that up, can you?

malclave on March 3, 2011 at 9:51 PM

The whole problem with the budget debate, the deficit crisis, etc. is that it doesn’t feel real to the majority of Americans. Just try bringing up the national debt (handy reference here) to a random group of friends (assuming your friends are not all members of the Tea Party) and watch eyes glaze over and people start to back away slowly. I am afraid that until we can no longer pay for vital services and peoples’ monthly checks stop going out, the majority of America is just not going to get that exercised about it. And by then, of course, it may well be too late. I live in a pretty nice neighborhood, but go a mere 2 miles in any direction and you have neighborhoods which will, frankly, erupt if there is a disruption in the entitlement system.

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 9:52 PM

Do Leftists actually have a solution to the Fiscal Sanity issue that doesn’t involve burdening the people with even more oppressive taxation?

Chip on March 3, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Yeah, Joe Biden is such a numbers guy…

d1carter on March 3, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Me thinks Team Obama wants a SHUTDOWN,and this,
6.5 Billion,is that/their ploy!

Now,the DNC,has to figure out,how to turn the
tables,and blame Team Right!

Oh..when does the Liberal Party,and Unions,start their
GoonThug Draft,to start,organizing Astro-Turf’rs,to
protest the REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN OF GOVERNMENT!!!!

canopfor on March 3, 2011 at 9:55 PM

Shifting the decimal places for my mind to comprehend:
$1,500.00 of red ink, $6.50 to deal with it in a “reality-based” way.

G. Charles on March 3, 2011 at 9:56 PM

Exit question: Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown?

….

Because you’ll post a Pew poll showing that it’s not cool?

artist on March 3, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Do Leftists actually have a solution to the Fiscal Sanity issue that doesn’t involve burdening the people with even more oppressive taxation?

Chip on March 3, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Well, I guess if seizing and nationalizing every asset or account in the country is less burdensome, then YES!

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 9:59 PM

I agree with cyncook. The problem is reality. It’s fine to talk about cutting until you imply someone going without. Example… Michael Moore. Even where I live anything even resembling food stamp cuts ( benefits are more than ever) and people freak

hboulware on March 3, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Rush On Earmarks: Call Their Bluff And Shut Down Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0qPkjglcB8

canopfor on March 3, 2011 at 10:03 PM

tetriskid on March 3, 2011 at 9:42 PM

If they were retarded we would at least have some hope they could learn. I see no evidence of that so they must be brain dead instead.

chemman on March 3, 2011 at 10:04 PM

If there is a shutdown, the day after Allah will be headlining a new CBS/NBC/ABC/MSNBC poll that shows 91% of people blame Boehner and want an immediate increase in spending by 65%.

That’s why Boehner doesn’t want the shutdown.

angryed on March 3, 2011 at 10:08 PM

RUSH: The Truth About The Government Shutdown Is The Government Doesn’t Shut Down
Feb 11 2011(Video)
******************

http://dailyrushbo.com/rush-the-truth-about-the-government-shutdown-is-the-government-doesnt-shut-down/

canopfor on March 3, 2011 at 10:09 PM

I agree with cyncook. The problem is reality. It’s fine to talk about cutting until you imply someone going without. Example… Michael Moore. Even where I live anything even resembling food stamp cuts ( benefits are more than ever) and people freak

hboulware on March 3, 2011 at 10:00 PM

Which is why we need incremental cuts. A 1% cut to food stamps won’t be that freaky for people. But it will save a few billion. You have to start somewhere. And after a while, with the 1% cuts phased in, people will notice that there aren’t dead bodies all over the place from starvation. Then when another 1% or 2% or 5% cut is proposed, people will realize that it’s doable.

angryed on March 3, 2011 at 10:11 PM

artist on March 3, 2011 at 9:58 PM

angryed on March 3, 2011 at 10:08 PM

Yes, yes and yes.

slickwillie2001 on March 3, 2011 at 10:13 PM

The Republicans need to force the Democrats to justify every single dollar they are trying to spend. Every individual budget from every program must be brought to the floor and discussed. Every program proponent needs to explain WHY they deserve one penny. This is the only way to expose the scale of the spending excesses.

The time of ‘auto-pilot’ spending must end!

As for the ‘MSM’, it is simply not clear that their lies resonate with the people. They have damaged their credibility to the point that only the most poorly informed believe them.

Freddy on March 3, 2011 at 10:17 PM

angryed on March 3, 2011 at 10:11 PM

It’s not even the entitlement reductions that are necessary, it’s that better stewardship is needed. I really don’t want anyone’s Grandmother to go without her medication or anyone’s child to be hungry, but there’s so much waste! As was revealed yesterday, as much as 10% of Medicare payments ($50 billion) may be fraudulent. There are entire organizations devoted to pointing out the massive amounts of government waste inherent in the system. We pay quite a bit in federal taxes, and I wouldn’t even mind that much if I weren’t pretty sure it’s mostly being frittered away, or worse yet, utilized in ways that are contributing to the rapid destruction of our society. And the arrogance of the certain members of Congress who treat our money like it’s merely Monopoly money or something is pretty hard to take. I think we could have come up with a better way to spend that 25 grand they took from us last year.

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 10:20 PM

Although it seems like forever and a nightmare ago, I can actually remember 2008. There weren’t bodies of the victims of the cruel government piling up in the streets. Cutting the budget to 2008 levels is just not that drastic. I think we should cut back to Clinton era levels personally, if not more.

txmomof6 on March 3, 2011 at 10:21 PM

States such as Tennessee, Virginia and South Carolina are discussing printing their own money.

Not real sure what it will be backed with.

However, in Texas it’d be kind of neat if the State at least considered printing its own money based on either oil or natural gas or cattle or whatever or some combination of them all.

“Yeah, here’s your @.01 barrel in change for that loaf of bread.”

“Fill’er up? That’ll be @.30 barrels sir.”

BowHuntingTexas on March 3, 2011 at 10:26 PM

Democrats Shouting for a Shutdown, With No Plan, Democrats Turn to Scare Tactics…..By Texas GOP Vote
===========================================

National Republican Congressional Committee – Democrats in recent days have raised the specter of shutting down the federal government in order to get their way on increasing federal spending:

http://www.nrcc.org/

HIGH-RANKING NANCY PELOSI AIDE: “Democrats in Congress are preparing for a government shutdown, a congressional aide told RealClearPolitics Friday morning.

“An aide to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told a meeting of Democratic chiefs of staff in the House that there is a 90 percent chance the government will shut down, and they need to plan accordingly.” (Erin McPike, “Dems Preparing for Government Shutdown,” Real Clear Politics, 2/18/2011)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/02/18/dems_preparing_for_government_shutdown_108949.html
==================================

(more…linkys,on Repub/Democ Shutdown articles)

canopfor on March 3, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Let’s do continuing resolutions one government department at a time.

slickwillie2001 on March 3, 2011 at 10:31 PM

So, I really wanted to buy a McLauren F1, which runs about $970k. The only problem was there was no freakin way I could afford it on my salary, not even 20 years worth of my salary. So I settled for a Toyota Corolla. I actually saved $955,000! Any ideas how I can spend all that money I saved now? :P

Tuari on March 3, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Tuari on March 3, 2011 at 10:32 PM

You are a flipping genius. Have you ever considered running for Congress? We could use someone with big ideas there.

cynccook on March 3, 2011 at 10:42 PM

Do Leftists actually have a solution to the Fiscal Sanity issue that doesn’t involve burdening the people with even more oppressive taxation?

Chip on March 3, 2011 at 9:54 PM

It looks like this is their solution: the destruction of the American economy and republic. This Pentagon study of the economic crisis of ’08, especially timed to be an “October surprise” to help put Obama over the top has the fingerprints of Soros all over it. According to this study there were two phases of this economic terrorist attack and they are worried about a third phase which may kick in this year.

Do they have a plan? I think yes, but it has a different goal than what we might hope for.

shmendrick on March 3, 2011 at 10:44 PM

One trillion = a thousand billions.

Tzetzes on March 3, 2011 at 10:46 PM

They’re outright mocking the GOP

Daemonocracy on March 3, 2011 at 10:52 PM

shmendrick on March 3, 2011 at 10:44 PM

Lizards don’t leave fingerprints.

slickwillie2001 on March 3, 2011 at 10:53 PM

shmendrick on March 3, 2011 at 10:44 PM

It’s becoming more and more evident that the Democrats don’t actually want to solve this problem.

It’s becoming more and more evident that they would rather use this “serious Crisis” as a way to usher in (as someone else said) a ‘Golden age of Taxation’.

It would seem that they either want that or they want to system to collapse, but in either case, actually solving the problem doesn’t seem to be in their DNA.

Chip on March 3, 2011 at 10:56 PM

It would seem that they either want that or they want the system to collapse, but in either case, actually solving the problem doesn’t seem to be in their DNA.

Chip on March 3, 2011 at 10:57 PM

So the Republicans promise $100 billion, actually go with $61 billion and are down to $4 billion for a two week period, and the Democrats counter with $6.5 billion?

We need cuts in the hundreds of billions to trillions of dollars and the two parties are basically playing marbles.

sharrukin on March 3, 2011 at 11:05 PM

This smells like Valarie Jarrett.

SouthernGent on March 3, 2011 at 9:39 PM

(Shudder)

Jaibones on March 3, 2011 at 11:24 PM

They’re outright mocking the GOP

Daemonocracy on March 3, 2011 at 10:52 PM

So am I. Cantor, Kristi Noem and Adam Kinzinger all voted against $83 billion in first year cuts.

Gutless frauds.

Jaibones on March 3, 2011 at 11:31 PM

The LOSERSHIP needs to get serious — 1.5T / 365 = 4.1T PER DAY not per two weeks.

These LOSERSHIP clowns have obviously never run a business that is in need of serious IMMEDIATE change or a goner…

drfredc on March 4, 2011 at 12:00 AM

Some bold leadership here. FML.

Kenosha Kid on March 4, 2011 at 12:09 AM

Explains why these retards think bankrupting America is a good idea.

tarpon on March 4, 2011 at 5:20 AM

I want someone to pull out a cleaver and get bloody on the budget. These guys clearly have never had to balance a checkbook.

gdonovan on March 4, 2011 at 5:59 AM

Exit question: Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown? Their offer’s not just fraudulent, it’s insulting.

sad to say, he and cantor rather be Mr Nice Guy, they will not hit back…if the tables were turned, the outrage that would be spew out 24/7….

cmsinaz on March 4, 2011 at 6:09 AM

If the Repubs are smart enough, they will enable Obama to tell his base that he is increasing spending while spending is going down, and increasing taxes while taxes go down. The guy has no scruples…take advantage of it.

percysunshine on March 4, 2011 at 6:36 AM

As for the ‘MSM’, it is simply not clear that their lies resonate with the people. They have damaged their credibility to the point that only the most poorly informed believe them.

Freddy on March 3, 2011 at 10:17 PM

Evidently, 52% of the voting population are poorly informed…at least in 2008. ;)

exsanguine on March 4, 2011 at 7:01 AM

Evidently, 52% of the voting population are poorly informed…at least in 2008. ;)

exsanguine on March 4, 2011 at 7:01 AM

teh stupid, it runs deep

TheVer on March 4, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Let me see if I understand the logic: you extend your Credit Card limit from $ 10,000.00 to $ 50,000.00.
Then you “only” use $ 49,000.00 and you are “saving” money??
And these people are our Representatives?
We need to do better than this at the next election!

gullxn on March 4, 2011 at 9:33 AM

So… we need to save some money. Let the $1.5T deficit be represented by 100 pennies. Democrats are proposing we do that by pinching off 4/10 of one penny. Way to go, geniuses. If a bunch of us ran our personal finances like that, debtors’ prisons would find public approval again!

flutejpl on March 4, 2011 at 9:38 AM

I heard a great explanation of the Democrat mind last night;

“Two years ago, my 4 year old asked me for a pony. I told her no. This year I cut $1,200 from my budget, because I didn’t have to pay boarding fees.”

barnone on March 4, 2011 at 9:39 AM

“Why shouldn’t Boehner walk away right now and prepare for a shutdown?”

Um, does he want to get reelected in 2012? Perhaps he secretly wishes to retire?

{^_^}

herself on March 4, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Which is why we need incremental cuts. A 1% cut to food stamps won’t be that freaky for people. But it will save a few billion. You have to start somewhere. And after a while, with the 1% cuts phased in, people will notice that there aren’t dead bodies all over the place from starvation. Then when another 1% or 2% or 5% cut is proposed, people will realize that it’s doable.

angryed on March 3, 2011 at 10:11 PM

Every leftist everywhere will scream bloody murder about every single dime that anyone ever proposes to cut, every time. Can you name a single exception to this, ever?

With this in mind, your proposal won’t last past the first election cycle before the leftists manage to convince a majority to re-elect them so the gravy train can get going full steam ahead once again. This is the way it happens every time, and you know it. Do you really think your plan would have a chance?

runawayyyy on March 4, 2011 at 2:44 PM

So, I really wanted to buy a McLauren F1, which runs about $970k. The only problem was there was no freakin way I could afford it on my salary, not even 20 years worth of my salary. So I settled for a Toyota Corolla. I actually saved $955,000! Any ideas how I can spend all that money I saved now? :P

Tuari on March 3, 2011 at 10:32 PM

Have you thought about treating yourself to something nice? I hear the McLaren F1 offers quite a thrill.

Dominion on March 4, 2011 at 5:12 PM

We’s in DEEP DOO!

Dandapani on March 4, 2011 at 8:40 PM