SCOTUS: No jackass exception to the First Amendment
posted at 10:55 am on March 2, 2011 by Ed Morrissey
Considering just how emotionally and politically fraught the case of Snyder v Phelps is, the Supreme Court showed a surprising level of unanimity in striking down a lawsuit against the despicable Fred Phelps cult. With only Samuel Alito dissenting, the Court dismissed a civil lawsuit for the intentional infliction of emotional distress to the family of a soldier whose funeral got picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church. The justices ruled that the lawsuit would set a precedent that would eventually erode the right to free political speech:
The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals.
The court voted 8-1 in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church of Topeka, Kan. The decision upheld an appeals court ruling that threw out a $5 million judgment to the father of a dead Marine who sued church members after they picketed his son’s funeral.
Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion for the court. Justice Samuel Alito dissented.
The opinion can be found here. The majority frames the question in this passage:
Whether the First Amendment prohibits holding Westboro liable for its speech in this case turns largely on whether that speech is of public or private concern, as determined by all the circumstances of the case. “[S]peech on ‘matters of public concern’ . . . is ‘at the heart of the First Amendment’s protection.’ ” Dun & Bradstreet, Inc. v. Greenmoss Builders, Inc., 472 U. S. 749, 758–759 (1985) (opinion of Powell, J.) (quoting First Nat. Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, 435 U. S. 765, 776 (1978)). The First Amendment reflects “a profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues should be uninhibited, robust, and wide-open.” New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U. S. 254, 270 (1964). That is because “speech concerning public affairs is more than self-expression; it is the essence of self-government.” Garrison v. Louisiana, 379 U. S. 64, 74–75 (1964). Accordingly, “speech on public issues occupies the highest rung of the hierarchy of First Amendment values, and is entitled to special protection.” Connick v. Myers, 461 U. S. 138, 145 (1983) (internal quotation marks omitted).
“ ‘[N]ot all speech is of equal First Amendment importance,’ ” however, and where matters of purely private significance are at issue, First Amendment protections are often less rigorous. Hustler, supra, at 56 (quoting Dun & Bradstreet, supra, at 758); see Connick, supra, at 145–147. That is because restricting speech on purely private matters does not implicate the same constitutional concerns as limiting speech on matters of public interest: “[T]here is no threat to the free and robust debate of public issues; there is no potential interference with a meaningful dialogue of ideas”; and the “threat of liability” does not pose the risk of “a reaction of self-censorship” on matters of public import. Dun & Bradstreet, supra, at 760 (internal quotation marks omitted). …
The “content” of Westboro’s signs plainly relates to broad issues of interest to society at large, rather than matters of “purely private concern.” Dun & Bradstreet, supra, at 759. The placards read “God Hates the USA/Thank God for 9/11,” “America is Doomed,” “Don’t Pray for the USA,” “Thank God for IEDs,” “Fag Troops,” “Semper Fi Fags,” “God Hates Fags,” “Maryland Taliban,” “Fags Doom Nations,” “Not Blessed Just Cursed,” “Thank God for Dead Soldiers,” “Pope in Hell,” “Priests Rape Boys,” “You’re Going to Hell,” and “God Hates You.” App. 3781–3787. While these messages may fall short of refined social or political commentary, the issues they highlight—the political and moral conduct of the United States and its citizens, the fate of our Nation, homosexuality in the military, and scandals involving the Catholic clergy—are matters of public import. The signs certainly convey Westboro’s position on those issues, in a manner designed, unlike the private speech in Dun & Bradstreet, to reach as broad a public audience as possible. And even if a few of the signs—such as “You’re Going to Hell” and “God Hates You”—were viewed as containing messages related to Matthew Snyder or the Snyders specifically, that would not change the fact that the overall thrust and dominant theme of Westboro’s demonstration spoke tobroader public issues.
Apart from the content of Westboro’s signs, Snyder contends that the “context” of the speech—its connection with his son’s funeral—makes the speech a matter of private rather than public concern. The fact that Westboro spoke in connection with a funeral, however, cannot by itself transform the nature of Westboro’s speech. Westboro’s signs, displayed on public land next to a public street, reflect the fact that the church finds much to condemn in modern society. Its speech is “fairly characterized as constituting speech on a matter of public concern,” Connick, 461 U. S., at 146, and the funeral setting does not alter that conclusion.
This seems to be an eye-of-the-beholder issue. Regardless of the nature of the intrusion into the private funerals of those who died in military service to this country, it’s clear that the Phelps cult believes that its protest is on public policy. The protests rage against the tolerance shown to gays in American society and in American public policy, and warn that God continues to punish us for it. They protest at funerals because their diseased political stance is that God kills our soldiers because of our tolerance for sin.
Alito is passionate in his dissent:
Our profound national commitment to free and open debate is not a license for the vicious verbal assault that occurred in this case.
Petitioner Albert Snyder is not a public figure. He is simply a parent whose son, Marine Lance Corporal Matthew Snyder, was killed in Iraq. Mr. Snyder wanted what is surely the right of any parent who experiences such anincalculable loss: to bury his son in peace. But respondents, members of the Westboro Baptist Church, deprived him of that elementary right. They first issued a press release and thus turned Matthew’s funeral into a tumultuous media event. They then appeared at the church, approached as closely as they could without trespassing, and launched a malevolent verbal attack on Matthew and his family at a time of acute emotional vulnerability. As a result, Albert Snyder suffered severe and lasting emotional injury.1 The Court now holds that the First Amendment protected respondents’ right to brutalize Mr. Snyder. I cannot agree. …
First—and most important—the Court finds that “the overall thrust and dominant theme of [their] demonstration spoke to” broad public issues. Ante, at 8. As I have attempted to show, this portrayal is quite inaccurate; respondents’ attack on Matthew was of central importance. But in any event, I fail to see why actionable speech should be immunized simply because it is interspersed with speech that is protected. The First Amendment allows recovery for defamatory statements that are interspersed with nondefamatory statements on matters of public concern, and there is no good reason why respondents’ attack on Matthew Snyder and his family should be treated differently.
Second, the Court suggests that respondents’ personal attack on Matthew Snyder is entitled to First Amendment protection because it was not motivated by a private grudge, see ante, at 9, but I see no basis for the strange distinction that the Court appears to draw. Respondents’ motivation—“to increase publicity for its views,” ibid.—did not transform their statements attacking the character of a private figure into statements that made a contribution to debate on matters of public concern. Nor did their publicity-seeking motivation soften the sting of their attack. And as far as culpability is concerned, one might well think that wounding statements uttered in the heat of a private feud are less, not more, blameworthy than similar statements made as part of a cold and calculated strategy to slash a stranger as a means of attracting public attention.
Third, the Court finds it significant that respondents’ protest occurred on a public street, but this fact alone should not be enough to preclude IIED liability. To be sure, statements made on a public street may be less likely to satisfy the elements of the IIED tort than statements made on private property, but there is no reason why a public street in close proximity to the scene of a funeral should be regarded as a free-fire zone in which otherwise actionable verbal attacks are shielded from liability. If the First Amendment permits the States to protect their residents from the harm inflicted by such attacks—and the Court does not hold otherwise—then the location of the tort should not be dispositive. A physical assault may occur without trespassing; it is no defense that the perpetrator had “the right to be where [he was].” See ante, at 11. And the same should be true with respect to unprotected speech. Neither classic “fighting words” nor defamatory statements are immunized when they occur in a public place, and there is no good reason to treat a verbal assault based on the conduct or character of a private figure like Matthew Snyder any differently.
Be sure to read it all; Alito makes as good a case as I’ve seen for allowing the $5 million judgment to stand.
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Probably not at terminal velocity — I doubt it fell far enough for that. Terminal velocity for a metal part is going to be a lot high than terminal velocity for a person.
Count to 10 on April 27, 2013 at 2:35 PM
I think they call it gravity.
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM
It’s obvious:
“BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH”
JFKY on April 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM
Obviously Dick Cheney was hauling this piece of fake debris up to the roof during the night of 9/10, when suddenly he had a brief heart attack and lost his grip on the rope. Since he still had to go plant all the controlled demolition charges in the towers, he was out of time and had to just leave it there.
Fabozz on April 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Maybe it was ‘put’ there to stop the mosque being built? Could be ‘human remains’ there also to stop things till it is investigated?
L
letget on April 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Not against all probability. People win lotto’s all the time even though they are extremely low probability events which this would be also. That said the second explanation seems more reasonable.
chemman on April 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Maybe it isn’t part of a 9/11 plane but was planted there to underline that the mosque would be built on sacred ground? That’s super-lame as an explanation, but it’s what I thought of
ParisParamus on April 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Has the Mohammed Atta passport thing been explained?
I have trouble keeping the conspiracies and facts separate.
vityas on April 27, 2013 at 2:42 PM
As long as we’re coming up with wild conspiracy theories – it’s clearly been placed there by people sympathetic to the mosque. They were going to build a shrine inside the mosque and place it on display.
worldtvlr on April 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM
I’m sooooooooooooooo behind, Mohamet Atta and his passport? I MUST know….and yes, it’s probably a “conspiracy”…by this time most things are. We pretty much knew 95% of what there was to know within 180 days of 9/11.
JFKY on April 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Erika’s story contained the following phrase: “…stamped with a clearly visible Boeing identification …”
I’m guessing that either the word “Boeing” was stamped there along with the serial number, or there is a Boeing logo stamped on it.
If none of this is true, then hellifiknow.
bugsy on April 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Chalk one up for the nanny state busybody.
Fenris on April 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Allah has landed!
Let the Muslim cultists wailing begin.
pat on April 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM
It’s obvious that Bush put it there.
vcferlita on April 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM
News reports said there was a “prominent” stenciled Boeing on some part of it. Probably that made the surveyor associate it with the 9/11 tragedy and why he called police.
Webrider on April 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM
How did that piece get there? Aliens.
DStreete on April 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Eating coddled eggs and drumming up conspiracys. Lazy. Phoning it in.
The weekends are when I actually have time to digest intel on serious matters, and I’m starved.
You can write good pieces. Please do so.
The effing thing fell from the sky. What’s to discuss?
I can’t stand Jazz, the music.
C’mon dude. Something relavent?
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 2:58 PM
Doesn’t the piece clearly say Boeing on it? At least that’s what I’ve read. Could be why the cops were called.
wte9 on April 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM
How could it lay there for a dozen years and the metal thieves,er junk recyclers not have found and sold it?
docflash on April 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM
It might have been missed as it was actually wedged high up in the gap and over the last 12.5 years it fell to be at ground level. It does not say it the brick work was damaged with scratches and how fair if it had to fall thought the gap or could it be hit the gap in a direct shot. There was other landing gears found in Park 51 building so it might have been another part from that gear.
tjexcite on April 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Perhaps it’s traditional for Moslems to build mosques on the bones of their enemies.
erp on April 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Having spent most of my life in the military and being around cannons and other destructive items, it isn’t much of a leap that some parts flew off at weird angles. Many items tend to spin wildly and bounce at crazy angles. Inspections at scenes after explosions almost always reveal at least a couple unusual fragment trajectories. We would just scratch our heads amazed at some of the locations we would find fragments.
Second guessing at the motives of the person reporting the item is just random speculation, which I guess is just as well it’s done on a slow traffic Saturday. We can all dream up a myriad of reasons why or why not.
Rode Werk on April 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Do you need help, finding things we want to talk about?
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Some things are unknowable.
Curtiss on April 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM
The rope doesn’t look particularly weathered after 11 years. But I don’t know that much about ropes and weathering.
Rose on April 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Agree with the rope not being weathered – but that could mean that whoever noticed it (maybe the guy that reported it?) first thought he could get it for himself and somehow fished a rope around it, to ty and drag it out. After he found out it was stuck, the cut bait and reported it to the public.
Well, it’s as good as the other theory!
Tom Servo on April 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Jazz, do you know if the buildings are exactly the same height? Or is one taller than the other?
Captain Kirock on April 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Perhaps it has something to do with the concept of a mosk called a rabat that muslims build on the site of a victorious battle in the heart of their enemy; maybe it needs relics of the battle or something.
Islam Center’s Eerie Echo of Ancient Terror
slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM
“JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS”
Kenosha Kid on April 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Time travelers have been messing with the space/time continuum, and loose ends like this keep popping up.
In another timeline, the WTC was located in the space where the wheel was found. Due to a rift in the STC, the wheel appears in the right spot, just in the wrong time.
Conversely, there is a time line somewhere thats missing a wheel to one of the aircraft.Any doubt there is great conspiratorial conjecture as to why?
I wonder if there is a Bush in that timeline.
BobMbx on April 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM
Yea Jazz, are the buildings the same size? Because if they aren’t, surely it matters. Right?
You need to let us know.
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM
That’s why HotAir never complains about Drudge going Truther with Alex Jones links daily… They sympathize?
Kaptain Amerika on April 27, 2013 at 3:45 PM
In which case shouldn’t they search for a magic carpet (or remnants of one) instead? :)
jimver on April 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM
BobMbx on April 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM
I hope you copy righted that, or Alex Jones will still your story in 5,4…and present it as original and factual :)
jimver on April 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM
Ask the Paultards, they’ll tell you…
’twas teh Juice.
catmman on April 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM
It’s your rant. Answer it.
They found debris. Sifting for bone possible. Why?
What does it matter?
Does the wheel prove anything? give closure?
It’s just perversity. I expect it from NY writers.
You tell me your point. Did you have one?
If I had reported it, it would have been in memoriam.
That’s all it should be.
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM
Why is it not about those who perished? Jazz?
wolly4321 on April 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM
The t.v. reports said the word “Boeing” was clearly visible on the piece. Also said both planes that hit the towers on 9/11 were manufactured by Boeing.
That may have had something to do with it.
AZCoyote on April 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM
This picture clearly says Boeing, I would call the cops.
http://twitpic.com/cm4tkh
MontanaMmmm on April 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM
I think the better question is, when you have an event ejecting multiple thousands of pieces of wreckage, what are the odds that at least one ends up wedged somewhere in this fashion. Not terrible I’d say. Certainly not enough to provide compelling evidence for some sort of conspiracy.
rightmind on April 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM
“Height” is not the same as “size”.
If one building is taller than the other (the actual question asked) that might make the accidental “capture” of the part a bit more likely. OTOH depending on which way the part was flying through the air, it might make it nearly impossible.
I don’t think it matters a lot how likely it is or isn’t, though: stuff, as they say, happens.
drunyan8315 on April 27, 2013 at 4:15 PM
Obviously a sign from Allah that the mosque should be built on this location. They can enshrine the relic inside the front door, just above a sign saying “Look what we did!”
GarandFan on April 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM
The rope could be from someone trying to remove it sometime in the last 12 years, and failing. How wedged in there was it? How heavy is it? Could someone have tried to yank it out with a truck or car?
starboardhelm on April 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Yup. Possibly scrappers…
http://www.spike.com/shows/scrappers
Fallon on April 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM
considering that debris was raining down everywhere there, what is amazing to me is that nobody bothered to look between two buildings. It’s like not bothering to look between the front seats in your car when you lose your wallet.
keep the change on April 27, 2013 at 4:35 PM
In another timeline, Margaret Sanger was born in Arabia in 545 AD, and you know the rest.
slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2013 at 4:36 PM
Is it that this huge chunk of metal falling out of the sky
No point in planting it unless it was from one of the planes. In that case the bigger problem would have been getting it in the first place.
It is possible it went through the roof of the building and the people wanting to build the mosque tried to dispose of it but got it lodged between the buildings somehow.
Time will tell possibly.
Steveangell on April 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM
I guess Media Matters is covering the Drudge/Alex Jones partnering. While Hotair fuels conspiracy theories of their own.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/04/26/alex-jones-worked-with-drudge-contributor-to-cr/193800
Kaptain Amerika on April 27, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Official searches often don’t seem to find things. How many times has some kid gone missing and they find the body weeks or months later within a mile of where the kid disappeared?
trigon on April 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM
War trophy, or someone wanted it look like one.
jury is out.
WryTrvllr on April 27, 2013 at 5:09 PM
WryTrvllr on April 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM
‘The five, dancing, Hasidic JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS’
Resist We Much on April 27, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Well, yes actually, building Mosques on the grounds of great Muslim military victories is the genesis for more than half of the Mosques in Middle Eastern countries.
I think opponents of the planned Mosque planned to spring this before the project got any further than it did.
The whole Mosque project was more flash than pan from the beginning. No one involved had the money or the inclination to follow it up; they just thought it was a good way to p**s off the Infidels….
E9RET on April 27, 2013 at 5:32 PM
The NY Daily News reported today that a member of the NYPD aviation unit went to the scene and confirmed it was a plane’s landing gear. A check of its serial number linked the wreckage to the attack that killed 2,753 people.
Park51 (on Sept.11, 2001) was a 5 story building and 50 Murray St. is 22 stories….nice apts. by the way, studios starting from $2400.
NY Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said there were no marks on the buildings to indicate the piece hit the walls on the way down. Cops were also investigating how the gear got there, including the possibility it was lowered into place because of the rope that was found intertwined with the metal. And the debris was described as being about 5 feet by 4 feet by 17 inches, lying in a very, very narrow, confined area.
Bizarre, very bizarre.
lynncgb on April 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM
“I love a good mystery, though I usually stick to old Nero Wolfe novels.”
Ditto!
Ira on April 27, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Really amazing it landed right next to touching in fact Jimmy Hoffa.
ConcealedKerry on April 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM
“Against all probablility”? There are zillions of parts getting flung everywhere after a collision like that. Those parts have to land somewhere.
What’s against all probability is the worshipful attitude some American elites have adopted towards sexist, anti-Western, xenophobic Islam since 9/11.
kd6rxl on April 27, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Ummm, no. Terminal velocity is based on the aerodynamic drag and has nothing to do with density. All objects fall at the same rate in a vacuum (some guy named Galileo worked that out, I think).
I think we’re going to find this isn’t as spectacular as it seemed at first (probably a partial hoax), but it is still pretty incredible to find this part after 11+ years.
GWB on April 27, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Density is almost everything. If you have two identical boxes, one is empty and one is full of lead, the one with lead will drop a lot faster. The aerodynamic shape plays a small roll, but the big factor is weight per unit volume.
keep the change on April 27, 2013 at 7:03 PM
…Allah Akbar!
KOOLAID2 on April 27, 2013 at 7:05 PM
I’m Batman
LtGenRob on April 27, 2013 at 7:25 PM
Sorry:
Feather & Hammer Drop on Moon
V7_Sport on April 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM
Looking at the building on Google Earth, the mosque building is surrounded by taller buildings in a U shape open to the WTC. It is plausible that the gear hit the taller building and slid down the wall. That doesn’t explain the rope, which is not a lilly white new rope, but dirty like the rest of the gear. Someone found it on the rooftops during the cleanup and tried to lower it down as a souvenir but wasn’t able to retrieve it?
tdarrington on April 27, 2013 at 8:11 PM
I *KNEW* I left that somewhere…..
ProfShadow on April 27, 2013 at 8:13 PM
We are not on the moon. We have an atmosphere. The atmosphere creates resistance. To overcome resistance you need weight per unit volume – density. Two objects of the same size, and same shape, will fall at very different speeds depending on their densities.
keep the change on April 27, 2013 at 8:23 PM
It’s simple…it’s a trophy
Youngs98 on April 27, 2013 at 9:25 PM
Possible. Maybe that’s why they were running a sham ‘building a mosk’ project. President George W. Bush has a piece of the WTC in his library and Saddam’s gold-plated .45, Osama wanted his own souvenirs. Possible.
slickwillie2001 on April 27, 2013 at 9:34 PM
From the first time I heard of this a couple days ago, I figured it was there to be worshiped like the Al-Ħajaru l-Aswad stone in the Kaaba;
Some sort of holy artifact to celebrate their victory over the infidel.
LegendHasIt on April 27, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Is that a rope or some kind of steel cable? I would almost put my money on the latter, and, if so, could this be part of the landing gear system. Part of a pulley-system perhaps?
Corporal Tunnel on April 27, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Stole my thunder. For their mosque inner sanctum it probably represents to them a big score for the Koran against civilized infidels.
viking01 on April 27, 2013 at 10:57 PM
Pamela Geller:
ITguy on April 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Repeating a comment I made yesterday…
It’s not surprising that part of the landing gear was found next to the building, since another part of the landing gear went through the roof of the building (then a Burlington Coat Factory). This piece may have gone through the roof and then exited through the wall to the alley… taking building debris with it into that mound in the alley.
The damage to the building was the reason why it was sold… AND the reason why it was bought…
Muslims have a history of taking places they attacked and turning them into “victory mosques”.
The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_Zero_mosque was originally named “Cordoba House”. One of the largest mosques in the world was a church in Cordoba, Spain that the Muslims changed into a mosque after they conquered it.
The modern day “Cordoba Initiative” said the name “Cordoba House” was meant to invoke 8th–11th century Córdoba, Spain, which
they called a model of peaceful coexistence between Muslims, Christians, and Jewsmarked the apex of the Islamic caliphate.There is more to the big picture than many people realize.
Remember Michelle Obama’s trip to Spain?
Michelle Obama’s trip to Spain wasn’t “tone-deaf”, it was “pitch perfect”…
to the Cordoba Initiative
ITguy on April 28, 2013 at 12:10 AM
Is that rope or is that a piece of steel cable?
What I would do is attempt to draw the trajectory of the planes and pass the line directly through the buildings and see if the location of this part is even close to that line of travel. If it isn’t, then it is highly unlikely that the part landed there on its own.
crosspatch on April 28, 2013 at 1:13 AM
crosspatch on April 28, 2013 at 1:13 AM
I never thought it was a rope. It looked like a cable to me.
Oh well.
BigAlSouth on April 28, 2013 at 8:33 AM
Wolly4321,
I was picking up on some Nero Wolfe vibes in your post, well, until the effing part. Profanity is the effort of a feeble brain to express itself forcibly, as the big man would say.
HoosierHawk on April 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Akzed on April 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Um – Terminal Velocity is terminal velocity (at least in this atmosphere.)
Please see Galileo Galilei’s experiment at the tower of Piza.
Wander on April 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM
You should sue whoever educated you—really!
Al in St. Lou on April 28, 2013 at 1:59 PM
How did it end up there.
Well, see there was this guy named Mohammad, who one day decided to create a religion that fit his Geo-political outlook. His followers were none to bright warriors and goat lovers..uh herders. It took a while to gain popularity. He had to recruit kid lovers and sadists by giving them a pass- religiously speaking of course- for their membership, but eventually he raised an army.
So, after the religion got popular (since there was no wi-fi or Internet or Ipods back then to keep the people occupied, and frankly the option of not joining was beheading), Mohammed decided to take the show on the road and conquer everyone who didn’t agree.
The great thing was that the religion justified about any horrible and disgusting act a backwards thinking moron and evil soul could imagine. So after Mohammed passed away his follower kicked it into high gear and started killing, raping and pillaging with great gusto across the known world. Always content to say it was the will of Allah that allowed them to kill and destroy anything they felt wasn’t Muslim..ish.
Then, about…uh what? Okay.. I’ve been told to speed it up.
Soooo fast forwarding a number of centuries. A bunch of followers of Mohammad, upset at the way of the West, hijacked four planes full of innocents and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands. One of those planes had the gear break off and rocket into the wall between the buildings.
And there you go.
I hope I helped.
archer52 on April 28, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Well, see there was this guy named Mohammad, who one day decided to create a religion that fit his Geo-political outlook. His followers were none to bright warriors and goat lovers..uh herders. It took a while to gain popularity. He had to recruit kid lovers and sadists by giving them a pass- religiously speaking of course- for their membership, but eventually he raised an army.
So, after the religion got popular (since there was no wi-fi or Internet or Ipods back then to keep the people occupied, and frankly the option of not joining was beheading), Mohammed decided to take the show on the road and conquer everyone who didn’t agree.
The great thing was that the religion justified about any horrible and disgusting act a backwards thinking moron and evil soul could imagine. So after Mohammed passed away his follower kicked it into high gear and started killing, raping and pillaging with great gusto across the known world. Always content to say it was the will of Allah that allowed them to kill and destroy anything they felt wasn’t Muslim..ish.
Then, about…uh what? Okay.. I’ve been told to speed it up.
Soooo fast forwarding a number of centuries. A bunch of followers of Mohammad, upset at the way of the West, hijacked four planes full of innocents and crashed them into buildings, killing thousands. One of those planes had the gear break off and rocket into the wall between the buildings.
Someone lowered it from the roof and dropped his rope in the process, which is clearly visible in the photo.
Akzed on April 29, 2013 at 9:47 AM
Maybe it’s the landing gear from some other plane crash besides 9/11.
CrustyB on April 30, 2013 at 11:00 AM