Report: Libyan rebel leadership may request UN airstrikes to dislodge Qaddafi
posted at 8:37 pm on March 1, 2011 by Allahpundit
We all know what this means in practice — there are no UN aircraft carriers, needless to say — but you know how the imprimatur of international legitimacy brightens Obama’s day. And the request for help isn’t as unlikely as it would have seemed just a week ago. Read this NYT assessment of the stalemate in and around Tripoli. Qaddafi isn’t strong enough to recapture nearby cities, but the rebels aren’t strong enough to break his hold on the capital, which appears to have quieted down. If he keeps resupplying via air, at the very least he can hold on in his corner of the country for a good long while. At worst, he can build up to the point where he’s steamrolling people again.
It’s 3 a.m. and the phone is ringing.
By invoking the United Nations, the council, made up lawyers, academics, judges and other prominent figures, is seeking to draw a distinction between the airstrikes and foreign intervention, which the rebels say they emphatically oppose.
“He destroyed the army. We have two or three planes,” said Abdel-Hafidh Ghoga, the council’s spokesman, speaking of the rebels’ military disadvantage. He refused to comment on the council’s deliberations or any imminent announcement, but said: “If it is with the United Nations, it is not a foreign intervention.”…
There was no indication that the United Nations Security Council members would approve such a request, or that Libyans seeking to topple Colonel Qaddafi would welcome it. Russia has dismissed talk of a no-fly zone to curb Colonel Qaddafi’s still-active air force, and China has traditionally voted against foreign intervention.
Even so, the discussions signaled a rebel movement both impatient with a military stalemate that has crippled the country, and out of good options.
The worry, supposedly, is that Qaddafi will demagogue the airstrikes as evidence that the protests are a foreign plot. Really? Who, exactly, is still undecided on the uprising and waiting to hear from Qaddafi before determining how they feel about it? Wouldn’t a televised statement on Al Jazeera from the rebel leadership in Benghazi be proof enough that the intervention was requested, not imposed?
If the White House wants to worry about something, they should worry that imposing a no-fly zone would be …. not so easy:
If a no-fly zone is implemented, one of the biggest worries for U.S. planners will be Libya’s surface-to-air missile batteries along its coastline, especially its so-called SA-6 missiles, which, though designed years ago by the Soviet Union, remain able to shoot down U.S. and European fighters, several analysts said.
Libya is believed to have about 50 SA-6 missiles, which are easy to move to avoid detection. Pentagon planners probably would seek to neutralize the SA-6s by warning Libya’s military not to target NATO aircraft but also with airstrikes against batteries that took threatening actions, such as activating their radar, the officers said…
To carry out patrols over Libyan airspace 24 hours a day, the U.S and its allies would need hundreds of aircraft, including fighters and refueling tankers, Dunn said. The U.S. could reduce the number of aircraft required by flying only during the day, when attacks on anti-government rebels are most likely, or by going after only Libyan airplanes, not helicopters, he said.
On the other hand, Danger Room notes that Libya’s surface-to-air batteries didn’t perform so well against the U.S. 25 years ago and, er, that they haven’t been upgraded since. (It’s also unclear how many batteries still function at all and how many are in rebel hands.) Nonetheless, the Pentagon seems unenthused about a new military operation, likely because of the logistics involved rather than the threat to U.S. airmen, and as J.E. Dyer pointed out earlier, U.S. officials are privately conceding that talk of a no-fly zone is an empty threat — for now. What happens, though, if the rebel leaders call the west’s bluff by formally requesting one, for the express humanitarian reason that they fear a massacre if Qaddafi hangs on much longer? There’s no way Obama, Cameron, Sarkozy et al. will say no and risk the public backlash if Qaddafi ends up using chemical weapons. If the request comes, it’ll be honored. I think.
The alternative, of course, is to stay out and start arming the rebels instead, but if even a hawk like Lindsey Graham is leery of that, you can imagine what the White House is thinking. Exit quotation from Hillary, who’s cool to the idea of leaving any U.S. fingerprints on any intervention: “You see a constant drumbeat [on Middle Eastern websites] that ‘the United States is going to invade Libya to take over the oil and we can’t let that happen.’ And we are not going to do that.”
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I’m starting to believe there isn’t anything too far fetched to believe with this administration. I remember the Jack Ryan incident. The crazy part? The Illinois GOP powers-that-be backed away and then destroyed their own candidate. The Dems play for keeps. The GOP doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to fight them.
Ajackson, great information and analysis, as usual.
I still just sit here and shake my head. This is crazy, futuristic dystopian stuff going on in this administration and so many people are oblivious to all it. And, Obama’s minions find it “offensive” to challenge him. *shaking my head*
Fallon on May 20, 2013 at 8:31 AM
Fast and Furious alone already told us this, and that’s just one head of 0dumba’s hydra!
Keep your popcorn ready – there’s more to come!
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 8:36 AM
Senate Judiciary – Immigration amendments
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House Gov. Reform Oversight Hearings – IRS Wed. 5/23
http://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-announces-irs-hearing-next-week/
Commerce (HHS)
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workingclass artist on May 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM
davidk on May 20, 2013 at 6:24 AM
Could Borowitz actually parody Zero with those QUOTES, and get away with it ?
Did Preezy truly say those things ?
Praps I need to suffer through the address, to know for sure ?
pambi on May 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM
Bingo: Obama and the IRS: The Smoking Gun?
This scam is being run through the greedy-union management structure, which thanks to an Executive Order signed by the REB, cannot be FOIA’d.
The Republicans have to put the greedy-union org structure on the wall and work their way through it like Mafia investigators do.
slickwillie2001 on May 20, 2013 at 9:15 AM
I nominate this one for the Butterfield Effect award.
Maybe we should help the writer out?
It’s called plausible deniability. He uses the office more aggressively than anyone who’s ever held it, then pretends ignorance when caught. Fortunately, absolutely no one is so stupid as to buy the innocent act.
Oh, wait…..
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 20, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Speaking of awards, this one ought to win Maureen Down an “unintentional humorist” award. The president targets his political enemies, and the only outrage she can muster is those nasty Republicans who are, in her mind, taking advantage of the scandal.
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 20, 2013 at 10:22 AM
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