White House to liberals: Soon you can start pushing single-payer health care at the state level

posted at 8:38 pm on February 28, 2011 by Allahpundit

Here’s a long-distance dedication to Politifact, which crowned as its “lie of the year” the conservative argument that ObamaCare represents a government takeover of health care. Of course it’s not a government takeover of health care; it’s merely a crucial step towards a government takeover of health care. Many liberals have never been shy about voicing their ambitions in that regard, but since they couldn’t do it at the federal level last year, they’ve been looking for alternative routes. Voila — how about the opt-out provision in O-Care? That lets the states substitute their own alternative plan provided that it’s as comprehensive and affordable as the federal one is and that it doesn’t increase the deficit. Which is to say, you don’t really get to design your own plan, you get to design your own version of ObamaCare. (No wonder The One went out of his way to salute Romney again.) Obama cited that opt-out provision in his speech to the governors today as evidence of not only what a flexible program ObamaCare is but how interested he is in cost control. Yet while he was telling them that, the White House was telling the left something different:

Health care advisers Nancy-Ann DeParle and Stephanie Cutter stressed on the off-record call that the rule change would allow states to implement single-payer health care plans — as Vermont seeks to — and true government-run plans, like Connecticut’s Sustinet.

The source on the call summarizes the officials’ point — which is not one the Administration has sought to make publically — as casting the new “flexibility” language as an opportunity to try more progressive, not less expansive, approaches on the state level.

“They are trying to split the baby here: on one hand tell supporters this is good for their pet issues, versus a message for the general public that the POTUS is responding to what he is hearing and that he is being sensible,” the source emails.

Watch the end of the clip below to see O giving the governors his “flexibility” pitch. Given the severe limitation on just how flexible they can be, Republican governors are understandably underwhelmed, notwithstanding the fact that the White House is now allowing states to opt out as early as 2014 instead of 2017. I confess, I’m morbidly curious to see what sort of cheap, deceitful accounting tricks blue states like Vermont will use to make their new single-payer scheme meet ObamaCare’s “don’t increase the deficit” provision. Or will they be going the route of tax hikes to pay for this? Either way, if O’s such a fan of states experimenting with health care, he should rescind the opt-out provision that requires state coverage to be as comprehensive as O-Care’s and let them compete for residents by offering whatever plans they like. If you want single-payer and are willing to pay more, go to Vermont. If you don’t, go to Texas. And if that dynamic means a huge influx of lower-income residents into Burlington and Bennington and Montpelier, just do what the left always does: Raise taxes on the rich. Opt-out fever!


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Palin.

John the Libertarian on February 28, 2011 at 8:41 PM

We officially live in a European-style socialist country.

Gratz?

Neo on February 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM

So Barry “Lincoln” Soetero is ultimately dividing us, and he’s ultimately admitting the South was right.

SouthernGent on February 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM

What is going to happen is the Liberal states will rape the Government, while the Conservative states will ignore Obamacare and take nothing from the Feds. In the end, the Government will take money from Conservative states and give it to Liberal states.

We cant let that happen.

WoosterOh on February 28, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Palin.

John the Libertarian on February 28, 2011 at 8:41 PM

God I hope this is snark as to how HotAir have become basically C4P.

Back to the topic. This is why the 2010 results were imporant of r the GOP statewide. While the WH and the Left touch themselves about socializing healthcare here, their plans keep getting derailed as other issues take precedence like Brewer’s surprise SB1070 and the Midwest gov’s fights against PEUs.

Apologetic California on February 28, 2011 at 8:45 PM

There is no doubt that bo is a historical figure but just who he most closely resembles will be a shock to him in 10 or 20 years. If he cons the repubs to only amend and not repeal o-care, will he be proud in ten years that we have no real health care anymore, I wonder.

tim c on February 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM

Three card monte…

d1carter on February 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM

So… just encourage the states that are willing to drive themselves into bankruptcy and devastate private health coverage in their states, and sooner or later they’ll all come crawling back to ObamaCare™ as a federal national program.

Such a cynical, malevolent SOB.

IronDioPriest on February 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM

The camel’s nose is officially under the tent.

Bop it hard, and get it out of there. This needs to stop.

iurockhead on February 28, 2011 at 8:49 PM

Oh hells no!! O Bozo knows O-Care is getting shut down by the Judiciary so this is his next ploy. Pull the plug on O-Care

sonnyspats1 on February 28, 2011 at 8:55 PM

There is no doubt that bo is a historical figure but just who he most closely resembles will be a shock to him in 10 or 20 years. If he cons the repubs to only amend and not repeal o-care, will he be proud in ten years that we have no real health care anymore, I wonder.

tim c on February 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM

He’s a socialist , they dont care. Equal misery for the serfs.

the_nile on February 28, 2011 at 8:55 PM

You know that big legislative package Obama and the democrats rammed through congress? the won called ‘obamacare’? It really doesn’t mean what you think it means, the words don’t really mean anything ‘cuz you can get a waiver from Obama, or you can go ahead and do anything you want as long as you get Obama’s approval first. See?

Skandia Recluse on February 28, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Soon you can go back to Chicago.

Pablo on February 28, 2011 at 8:57 PM

My only concerns are:

How much of this can we “un-do” when the adults are in charge again?

and

Will the repubs pi** all over each others shoes again and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

Tim Zank on February 28, 2011 at 8:58 PM

This is why the GOP candidate for 2012 needs a backbone- to fight to tear down every single part of Obamacare now before it really is too late.

Jay Mac on February 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM

Apologetic California on February 28, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Palin. Palin palin, palin palin palin; Palin palin! Palin palin palin, palin palin palin, palin, palin palin.

yw

alwaysfiredup on February 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM

If he cons the repubs to only amend and not repeal o-care, will he be proud in ten years that we have no real health care anymore, I wonder.

tim c on February 28, 2011 at 8:46 PM

He will not care, he (and his) will have superb health care.

Tim Zank on February 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM

I’m morbidly curious to see what sort of cheap, deceitful accounting tricks blue states like Vermont will use to make their new single-payer scheme meet ObamaCare’s “don’t increase the deficit” provision.

counting unicorns as 3/5 of a ….well, nevermind.

ted c on February 28, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Apologetic California on February 28, 2011 at 8:45 PM

Huh?!?@!? Incoherent.

Sporty1946 on February 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Nothing wrong with a little … even A LOT of Socialism as long as it’s done on the state level!!

/Mittens Romney

HondaV65 on February 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM

Obamination=bag-o-lies

AH_C on February 28, 2011 at 9:04 PM

How is Obama going to defend a healthcare bill when it’s found to be unconstitutional? Can the “states” write anything similar without mandates??? NO! Will he find the Supreme Court null and void?

Rovin on February 28, 2011 at 9:07 PM

I’m frightened by the new Gallup and New York Times polls. What is wrong with people?

andy85719 on February 28, 2011 at 9:09 PM

“Defund the IRS and the 13k employees Obama plans to hire to enforce the mandate”……Dick Morris

Rovin on February 28, 2011 at 9:09 PM

After the obamanation leaves office in Jan. ’13, he’s gonna be a worse ex-prez than Carter and Clinton combined…

Gohawgs on February 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM

NO! Will he find the Supreme Court null and void?

Rovin on February 28, 2011 at 9:07 PM

The Supreme Court acted stupidly.

Knucklehead on February 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM

More shell games from the con man in the WH.

I think that most of the Republican governors see through this rebranding.

onlineanalyst on February 28, 2011 at 9:11 PM

one year and ten months…counting

BruthaMan on February 28, 2011 at 9:15 PM

After the obamanation leaves office in Jan. ’13, he’s gonna be a worse ex-prez than Carter and Clinton combined…

Gohawgs on February 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM

He’ll be race baitin’ sh*t stirrin’ world-wide pain in the a$$. His personality requires attention & cameras and audiences, disciples if you will. And there will be plenty I’m sure.

Tim Zank on February 28, 2011 at 9:17 PM

He’s just going to force you into Obamacare. Just like states without Right to Work laws, he’s going to force you to pay for it.

Kini on February 28, 2011 at 9:18 PM

Democrats: Always were, and always will be, the Party of Slavery. And considering the real effect Obamacare will have on the the healthcare of the poor and those less priviledged than Zero and his ilk, it seems the nation’s first Black President will, in reality, be the cruelest joke yet played on America’s Black population. Democrats have always been the agents of Black genocide. From the Slave days of the 19th century, to the Deep South of the 20th century, to today’s inner cities, you’ll find the unmistakeable mark of the Democratic Party.

teacherman on February 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM

(No wonder The One went out of his way to salute Romney again.)

Put the old fork in Mitt. The ads write themselves.

ddrintn on February 28, 2011 at 9:23 PM

I think it’s a great idea:

Obamacare + Nov 2010 = Dem Bloodbath

Singlepayer + Nov 2012 = Dem Eviscerating

Western_Civ on February 28, 2011 at 9:25 PM

My idealistic side tells me that when Obama loses in 2012 his minions will control themselves and not riot in the streets.

Then there’s the realist…

pugwriter on February 28, 2011 at 9:26 PM

Where in Heaven’s name is the interstate health insurance plan to increase competition? Haven’t heard a word from any conservatives in DC.

ultracon on February 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

Three card monte…
d1carter on February 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM

Yes! Coincidentally.

Buy Danish on February 28, 2011 at 9:29 PM

Nothing wrong with a little … even A LOT of Socialism as long as it’s done on the state level!!

/Mittens Romney

HondaV65 on February 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM

There is no socialism at the state level. All the government requires is that you get health insurance.

Who you get that health insurance from is up to you. There is no government health care program. Its all private businesses.

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Where in Heaven’s name is the interstate health insurance plan to increase competition? Haven’t heard a word from any conservatives in DC.

ultracon on February 28, 2011 at 9:28 PM

If you want a trojan horse for the government to regulate health care via the commerce clause, then allow people to buy insurance across state lines.

Other wise, the only way to improve health care is to increase competition within each state themselves.

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2011 at 10:00 PM

I’m wondering what the Fort Sumter moment will be.

Alden Pyle on February 28, 2011 at 10:10 PM

Who you get that health insurance from is up to you. There is no government health care program YET. Its all private businesses.

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Fify. The market forces in Mass are creating a lack of capacity at the bottom. People with subsidized insurance/Medicaid are already have a hard time finding a doctor who takes their insurance and if they do find one they have to wait months to see a doctor. Whether at the state or federal level, it is a badly designed plan that will inexorably explode costs and lead to socialized and rationed care.

alwaysfiredup on February 28, 2011 at 10:19 PM

As the unions continue to implode, so will the democrats. Before long their true intentions about everything will be out in the open. They’re all behaving like cornered animals.

CurtZHP on February 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM

There is no socialism at the state level. All the government requires is that you get health insurance.

Who you get that health insurance from is up to you. There is no government health care program. Its all private businesses.

Conservative Samizdat on February 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM

Wish it were that easy. But the govt doesn’t just require you get insurance. It requires you get insurance that conforms to 2000 pages of regulation.

angryed on February 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM

Palin. Palin palin, palin palin palin; Palin palin! Palin palin palin, palin palin palin, palin, palin palin.

yw

alwaysfiredup on February 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM

18 ways to lose a general election.

rickyricardo on February 28, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Either way, if O’s such a fan of states experimenting with health care, he should rescind the opt-out provision that requires state coverage to be as comprehensive as O-Care’s and let them compete for residents by offering whatever plans they like. If you want single-payer and are willing to pay more, go to Vermont. If you don’t, go to Texas. And if that dynamic means a huge influx of lower-income residents into Burlington and Bennington and Montpelier, just do what the left always does: Raise taxes on the rich.
Opt-out fever!

Great post, Mr. Pundit.

hillbillyjim on February 28, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Yeah, the states are all just rolling in money. They can afford it. Right?

GarandFan on February 28, 2011 at 11:14 PM

If individual states had the money, and desire, for state controlled healthcare then they would have expanded medicade to cover everyone in their state many years ago. With NO LONG TERM GUARANTEE of federal funds to support even the small states in this endeaver, this is simply a foolish gesture by an ever more foolish looking president.

Freddy on February 28, 2011 at 11:22 PM

18 ways to lose a general election.

rickyricardo on February 28, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Your track record of predictions stinks.

alwaysfiredup on February 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM

Your track record of predictions stinks.

alwaysfiredup on February 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM

My prediction of Christine O’Donnell going down in flames was perfection.

Ditto, with Palin (Christine O’Donnell the 2nd)

rickyricardo on March 1, 2011 at 12:07 AM

What a stooge…..

roflmao

donabernathy on March 1, 2011 at 6:27 AM

Bad luck with all that Mr. President.
Is it 2012 yet? This man-child/socialist/semi communist/marxist must be defeated, period.

mmcnamer1 on March 1, 2011 at 8:27 AM

Uninsured motorist fees in the Commonwealth of Virginia cost $500.00 per year, provide liability-only coverage and must be paid prior to vehicle registration.
.
Uninsured motorist fees are for uninsurable drivers. Does anyone else have to pay exorbitant government rates for liability automobile insurance? I don’t!
.
Is there a correlation between the cost of government-backed insurance and the lack of insurance supply for high-risk drivers? I think so!

ExpressoBold on March 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM

These are all campaign strategies designed to keep his base while seeming to give in to the rest of us. He’s a sneaky Pete, watch at all times.

jeanie on March 1, 2011 at 9:05 AM

More proof that a Demoncrate will always change their values to coincide with the popular voice. Currently, I sense that President Obama gags, every-time he has to utter words that the show the public is right.

MSGTAS on March 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM

Wish it were that easy. But the govt doesn’t just require you get insurance. It requires you get insurance that conforms to 2000 pages of regulation.

angryed on February 28, 2011 at 10:52 PM

No, that’s Obamacare.

RomneyCare is 75 pages of regulation which simply requires people to buy from a private health insurance company.

Conservative Samizdat on March 1, 2011 at 12:10 PM