Some Democrats Shifting on Drilling?

posted at 3:35 pm on February 28, 2011 by Jazz Shaw

Is Congressman Jim Himes (D-CT-4) starting to get the message on domestic energy independence? According to one recent set of comments and a strong message from some of his constituents, he just may be.

Maurico Morales feels the pain whenever he puts gasoline in his car. Seeing prices nearing $4 a gallon, Morales wants the United States to look into any measures, including domestic drilling, that will make filling up less draining on his wallet. “If we have the resources to do it here, why buy it from other countries?” said Morales, who works in New Canaan and commutes daily from Bridgeport. “We’ve got to keep trying.”

Morales appears to have an ally – although a lukewarm one — in his congressman. Speaking to reporters from Main Street Connect on Wednesday, U.S. Rep. Jim Himes said that he would support domestic drilling for oil, but with reservations. “I’d rather see [the U.S.] drilling for [natural] gas than for oil and for coal,” he said.

Yes, that’s luke-warm support at best, but for a Democrat from Connecticut it’s a fairly startling comment. On the one hand we have various allies of the president saying that gasoline costing $4.00 or even more would be just the tough medicine we need to push America off of its “oil addiction.” It’s a fine sentiment, of course, providing you’re not one of the tens of millions of unemployed or under-employed who have to pony up the cash at the pumps.

But it’s precisely those people who show up at the polls – no matter how blue their home state – and begin to get itchy voting fingers when they have to choose between filling up the tank or getting groceries. And representatives like Himes may be starting to listen.

He’s going to have to summon up some serious intestinal fortitude and stand up to his own president to carry through on it, though. The latest word on the permitorium is that the Obama administration is standing pat.

Interior officials won’t offer timeline for issuing offshore drilling permits

Top Interior Department officials refused to get specific Friday about when permits for deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico will be issued.

“We are carefully and rigorously reviewing drilling plans. I am quite confident we will again get to the point where we approve deepwater permits,” Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement Director Michael Bromwich said Friday, according to Reuters.

I just know I recognize that official position about “timelines are bad” from somewhere, but darned if I can put my finger on it just now. But either way, don’t expect a break in the Gulf Coast Employment Blockade any time soon.


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DRILL, BABY, DRILL!!!!!

pilamaye on February 28, 2011 at 3:37 PM

That is what’s known as reading the tea (party) leaves.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, if your a democrat.

singlemalt 18 on February 28, 2011 at 3:39 PM

Bill Clinton?

honsy on February 28, 2011 at 3:40 PM

So, homeboy Democrat is starting to feel the groove of “Drill, Baby Drill?”…..

just.may.be! tschaa!

ted c on February 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM

The economy hasn’t collapsed enough to satisfy the democrats.

They want $5+ per gallon gas.

cntrlfrk on February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

Where’s Sen. Landreiu (sp?)? Maybe the MSM spend their time demonizing the GOP House to pay any attention to her? I can’t believe she’s not in front of a TV camera every day complaining about Obama.

BuckeyeSam on February 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Don’t expect any movement on the Gulf drilling front anytime soon.

The area between Texas and Alabama voted solidly for McCain in 2008 and there’s exactly one Dem Senator between those four state, which is Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-LA).

Keeping that moratorium in place means that he can hurt his “enemies” (red states) while keeping the base happy with him at the same time.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM

I actually waited in line for gas on Saturday night.

txhsmom on February 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Obama’s ego may be pushing him toward a showdown on the drilling-permit issue, with his figuring he can just have his people deny the permits, thereby showing the federal judge who is boss.

GaltBlvnAtty on February 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Interior officials won’t offer timeline for issuing offshore drilling permits

Because they have no intention of issuing permits.

CurtZHP on February 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Yes, that’s luke-warm support at best, but for a Democrat from Connecticut it’s a fairly startling comment.

Trial balloon. Head fake to his constituents if the party blowback is severe.

a capella on February 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM

Where’s Sen. Landreiu (sp?)?
BuckeyeSam on February 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Waiting for another bribe, I suspect or she’s already been bribed again to keep her mouth shut.

Knucklehead on February 28, 2011 at 3:47 PM

It sounds like there are some parts to of the Dept. of Interior that need to go through their own shutdown and Employment Blockade by not being funded.

ajacksonian on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

“If we have the resources to do it here, why buy it from other countries?” said Morales, who works in New Canaan and commutes daily from Bridgeport. “We’ve got to keep trying.”

Drilling for oil in the US will not have a material impact on worldwide oil prices. Growing demand in China and India are the primary driver of oil prices, compounded at the moment by supply problems in some parts of the Middle East.

Gas prices will go far, far higher over the next decade and the only answer is hybrid and electric vehicles that are fueled by a power grid that relies primary upon natural gas, which the US has in abundance.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Where’s Sen. Landreiu (sp?)? Maybe the MSM spend their time demonizing the GOP House to pay any attention to her? I can’t believe she’s not in front of a TV camera every day complaining about Obama.

BuckeyeSam on February 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM

Oh that’s easy, she doesn’t pop her head around these parts until its near election time. We’re stuck with her till 2014, so maybe in a couple years she’ll get around to addressing this issue and then she’ll tell us how hard she fights for Louisiana.

Lay-Z on February 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

Along with the rising gas prices, the food and clothing prices are going up also. bho and team use corn for the gas tank but not food. Even people on food stamps are going to get mad that the stamps aren’t getting them as much as it use to! Those are the ones that vote for d’s most of the time. People, d’s, r’s, and i’s are getting madder by the day at bho and team for what they are doing.
L

letget on February 28, 2011 at 3:52 PM

The economy hasn’t collapsed enough to satisfy the democrats.

They want $5+ per gallon Liter gas.

cntrlfrk on February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

FIFY

Koa on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

so maybe in a couple years she’ll get around to addressing this issue and then she’ll tell us how hard she fights for Louisiana.

Lay-Z on February 28, 2011 at 3:51 PM

That’s if her phones aren’t perpetually “busy” in the meantime.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Is there a way to start drilling under a type of co-op?

I really don’t know what I’m talking about but couldn’t some drilling by a citizen-owned company NOT GOVERNMENT and NOT BIG OIL.

The profits could be returned to the citizens who contributed in some way to start the co-op???

Everyone hates big oil and the government. Could someone think of a solution?

stenwin77 on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Interesting Juxtaposition with the Ted Kennedy, party man and the offshore Drillin threads.

Just noticing is all.

Colbyjack on February 28, 2011 at 3:54 PM

If these Liberals are like the ones from Wisconsin,
ya can count on them,to pull out and run,er,oil drill
ing that is!(sarc).

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 3:54 PM

They want $5+ per gallon gas.

cntrlfrk on February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

I thought 0bama wanted $7+ per gallon gas???

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM

The Democrats did this before. Shifting from no drilling, to supporting drilling. That lasted until the spotlight of high gas prices was off them, and they switched right back.

I wouldn’t trust a Democrat if they said that night was dark, and day was light.

Snake307 on February 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM

I am really sick of these elected officials doing everything possible to ruin our economy. They have no clue ass to the harm they are costing us both in the short and long run. And why? Because of some screwy unproven theories? And it’s always a double standard. They want to screw everyone else while they maintain their own fatcat lifestyles.

Blake on February 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

The economy hasn’t collapsed enough to satisfy the democrats.

They want $5+ per gallon Liter gas.

cntrlfrk on February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

FIFY

Koa on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Do the Democrats really think they have that much of a lock on the media that they can get away Scott free from the blame on this?

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

The economy hasn’t collapsed enough to satisfy the democrats.

They want $5+ per gallon gas.

cntrlfrk on February 28, 2011 at 3:42 PM

cntrlfrk:Ouch,and thats 4.55 Litres to the Imperial gallon!

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM

Better keep that tire pressure checked!..:)

Dire Straits on February 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Gas prices will go far, far higher over the next decade and the only answer is hybrid and electric vehicles that are fueled by a power grid that relies primary upon natural gas, which the US has in abundance.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Well,..no. We also have coal in abundance and there is no earthly reason it shouldn’t be used. Electric and hybrid vehicles won’t replace semi tractors or farm equipment. To convert them to natural gas would be a backbreaker.

a capella on February 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Only part of the problem and NOT the answer this time. We STILL need newer and MORE refineries.

Until NIMBY changes, it’s a perfect storm.

tree hugging sister on February 28, 2011 at 4:02 PM

Keeping that moratorium in place means that he can hurt his “enemies” (red states) the US economy while keeping the base happy with him at the same time.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 3:43 PM

FIFY, teke

iurockhead on February 28, 2011 at 4:03 PM

txhsmom on February 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM

Went last week and filled up my extra gas cans and the van. The gas pump shut off at $75. The limit used to be $100 dollars just a few weeks ago.

catmman on February 28, 2011 at 4:03 PM

I am really sick of these elected officials doing everything possible to ruin our economy. They have no clue ass to the harm they are costing us both in the short and long run. And why? Because of some screwy unproven theories? And it’s always a double standard. They want to screw everyone else while they maintain their own fatcat lifestyles.

Blake on February 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Friedrich Hayek:
Man does not and cannot know everything, and when he acts as if he does, disaster follows.

A Disaster is unfortunately becoming the best descriptive phrase for the Obama Administration.

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 4:04 PM

More windmills now! Turn, baby, turn.

Dhuka on February 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

Is there a way to start drilling under a type of co-op?

I really don’t know what I’m talking about but couldn’t some drilling by a citizen-owned company NOT GOVERNMENT and NOT BIG OIL.

The profits could be returned to the citizens who contributed in some way to start the co-op???

Everyone hates big oil and the government. Could someone think of a solution?

stenwin77 on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

Everybody hates big oil. Right. But you want cheap energy, including gasoline. You love the milk, but hate the cow.

Idiot.

iurockhead on February 28, 2011 at 4:05 PM

We are carefully and rigorously reviewing drilling plans. I am quite confident we will again get to the point where we approve deepwater permits, [when hell freezes over]” Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement Director Michael Bromwich said Friday.

They’re in contempt of court. Is there no punitive provision of jail time when it’s the Feds who are in contempt?

It’s a fine sentiment, of course, providing you’re not one of the tens of millions of unemployed or under-employed who have to pony up the cash at the pumps.

Let’s not leave out the fully employed. If one has to drive long distances to work (like my husband) or to school (like my son) this is a huge hit to the family pocketbook.

Buy Danish on February 28, 2011 at 4:06 PM

Drilling for oil in the US will not have a material impact on worldwide oil prices. Growing demand in China and India are the primary driver of oil prices, compounded at the moment by supply problems in some parts of the Middle East.

Gas prices will go far, far higher over the next decade and the only answer is hybrid and electric vehicles that are fueled by a power grid that relies primary upon natural gas, which the US has in abundance.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

The President’s Oil Reserves Lie

… untapped reserves are estimated at about 2.3 trillion barrels, nearly three times more than the reserves held by Organization of Petroleum Exporting Counties (OPEC) and sufficient to meet 300 years of demand-at today’s levels-for auto, aircraft, heating and industrial fuel, without importing a single barrel of oil.

Oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear. THOSE are the REAL answers.

Get those going at 100%, get the economy back hitting on all cylinders and THEN work on alternatives that WORK.

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM

Dire Straits on February 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Lolz.

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 4:08 PM

“If we have the resources to do it here, why buy it from other countries?” said Morales, who works in New Canaan and commutes daily from Bridgeport. “We’ve got to keep trying.”

Drilling for oil in the US will not have a material impact on worldwide oil prices.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Okay, so adding more to the supply won’t have an impact on prices?

Did Obama repeal the law of supply and demand while we weren’t looking?

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

On the one hand we have various allies of the president saying that gasoline costing $4.00 or even more would be just the tough medicine we need to push America off of its “oil addiction.” It’s a fine sentiment, of course, providing you’re not one of the tens of millions of unemployed or under-employed who have to pony up the cash at the pumps.

Or one who happens to live in what they call “flyover country”, where cities and towns are spread out over many miles of mountain foothills, plains and deserts, and where subways and trains for commuting are currently nonexistent & almost unaffordable to build in the future. We have to have our cars, so we are definitely screwed.

Susanboo on February 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM

There are so many solutions to the energy problem out there. And the Democrats oppose all of them.

Fracking shale oil in North Dakota
Piping oil down from the sands in Canada
ANWR in Alaska
Offshore drilling
Natural Gas fracking in Pennsylvania and elsewhere
Nuclear power

Any of these would make energy cheaper, dramatically reduce worries over Middle East problems, create jobs, and generate revenue for local, state and federal government.

Why do Dems oppose all of these initiatives?

hawksruleva on February 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Did Obama repeal the law of supply and demand while we weren’t looking?

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

He’s tried to repeal that one, along with the laws of gravity, thermodynamics, and unintended consequences.

I don’t think he’s realized that they aren’t the kinds of laws you can easily ignore yet.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Why do Dems oppose all of these initiatives?

hawksruleva on February 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

A combination of some idiots believing pie-in-the-sky predictions about solar and other unproven / incapable technologies and different idiots being anti-everything as a form of anti-capitalism.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Interior officials won’t offer timeline for issuing offshore drilling permits

Wait, didn’t the judge involved in Permitorium give the Administration 30 days to start the permits flowing?

Given that they’re discovering tremendous natural gas resources around the country, where are the natural gas powered cars. I know there are buses, and some industrial vehicles that run on natural gas, but why no cars? Or mass available cars?

Iblis on February 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Everyone hates big oil and the government. Could someone think of a solution?
stenwin77 on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

“Big Oil” doesn’t do too much drilling in the US. It is almost all “small oil.” Though often under contract. One good unintended consequence of deep drilling for natural gas is that often oil comes with it. However, I understand that if there is oil in the well they can’t get, or have difficulty getting, the gas. A new development in materials and engineering is seeming to allow pulling off the oil from two or three miles down, and freeing up the gas.
The US has huge reservoirs of oil that are very deep, just waiting for the technology to get it out. The problems are the current lousy ROI on the drilling, cost of extraction after drilling and materials. Go give a hug to your nearest geophysical, petroleum and Metallurgical engineers. They are doing more for this country than all the pseudo patriotic politicians and ruling classers put together.

Old Country Boy on February 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Well,..no. We also have coal in abundance and there is no earthly reason it shouldn’t be used. Electric and hybrid vehicles won’t replace semi tractors or farm equipment. To convert them to natural gas would be a backbreaker.

a capella on February 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM

Not really. Many farmers already run much of their fleet on propane. The same propane they use in their homes (that don’t have natural gas service.)

Diesel engines LOVE propane and natural gas. Technology now is ripe for a conversion.

You won’t get it done on older vehicles, because of cost, but the Big Three, Ford, GM and Chrysler have offered CNG and duel fuel vehicles for a couple of decades now.

Make it work on new cars and trucks. It’ll take a few decades to convert the fleet, but still, one wouldn’t have to convert the entire fleet. Just a good number of it all.

A duel fuel allows one to run either gasoline or compressed natural gas.

Many countries already have a significant part of their fleet running on CNG.

It would be a no brainer to have CNG filling stations installed at outlets already selling gasoline, as long as the location has natural gas service.

Even better, you could by-pass gas stations all together if you home has natural gas service. They make a machine that will compress natural gas specifically for home use to fill your CNG powered car.

They are expensive, around $5,000, but if sales grew, through demand, the price would come down.

Natural gas is clean and green, and we have more than we’ll ever use.

We need an all of the above deal though. No stone left unturned.

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Did Obama repeal the law of supply and demand while we weren’t looking?

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM

He’s tried to repeal that one, along with the laws of gravity, thermodynamics, and unintended consequences.

I don’t think he’s realized that they aren’t the kinds of laws you can easily ignore yet.

teke184 on February 28, 2011 at 4:13 PM

Yes, I could say that he and the rest of the left aren’t smart enough to know these things, but that would be uncivil, so I won’t.

Chip on February 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM

Drilling for oil in the US will not have a material impact on worldwide oil prices.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

You are wrong. ANWR would supply around 1% of US oil consumption. Put another way, it could supply all of the oil we need for a year. That’s actually a pretty good chunk of supply.

The tar sands in Canada are a major find – currently esimated at 1.7 TRILLION barrels. The easily recoverable portion makes Canada the 2nd largest oil reserves holder on earth, after Saudi Arabia.

The Bakken shale oil formation in North Dakota is estimated at around 18 billion barrels.

Nuclear energy could provide 100% of our energy needs, if we bothered to go in that direction.

hawksruleva on February 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM

$3.80 gallon locally, and that’s for REGULAR. You don’t want to know about high-test!

GarandFan on February 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 3:55 PM
===================================
Better keep that tire pressure checked!..:)

Dire Straits on February 28, 2011 at 3:58 PM

Dire Straits:Lol,the great Hopey pressure gauge,changing
the planet,one properly inflated tire at a
time!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

There’s also this:

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2010/03/01/story4.html

But that would involve mining low-grade cheap coal from some ungrateful red state, and somebody might make a profit from it, so it will be not only get no support, but will be resisted by this group of clowns in DC.

iurockhead on February 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

Oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear. THOSE are the REAL answers.

Get those going at 100%, get the economy back hitting on all cylinders and THEN work on alternatives that WORK.

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:07 PM

The solutions are obvious, aren’t they? But, no. This administration (and plenty of DC pols) have no interest in unleashing our resources, creating jobs and empowering the citizenry. It’s nothing short of criminal.

Using our natural resources to revitalize our economy is critical, yet little is being done without an all out fight.

We could turn our economic malaise around easily if it were not for the “environmentalists” (aka commies) and the politicians who enjoy a permanent underclass of citizens grateful for handouts.

Well, it’s our country, and the resources belong to us. The problem now for the Left is that they can no longer scream about “imperialism” when we want to develop our own resources.

We’ve reached an impasse. We are the government, and the resources of this country belong to us.

It’s time to keep after everyone in DC, shove them out of the way if they refuse to work for us, their employers, and claim our rights.

For the DC pols, the game is over. If not, the US will look like every other ME shit hole that is erupting.

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

BTW, I really appreciate your posts. Got all hot and bothered and forgot to mention it. Keep it going, Gary!

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Maybe they can get some movement in Alaska and open up the jobs goldmine waiting there.

http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/02/offshore-drilling-in-alaska-offers-a-job-creation-goldmine-will-obamas-epa-screw-it-up.html

The Democrat claim to be concerned about the middle class is laughable until oil drilling resumes in this country.

Blue Collar Todd on February 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

U.S. Rep. Jim Himes said that he would support domestic drilling for oil, but with reservations. “I’d rather see [the U.S.] drilling for [natural] gas than for oil and for coal,” he said.

Wow! They can now drill for coal? Who knew?

MikeA on February 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

I hope gas to $5 or $6 a gallon this summer. It will cause such a populist uproar that no Democrat will utter any nonsense about Global Warming or any other enviro-BS for the next 10 years. Might even finally open up ANWR.

angryed on February 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM

All of the above approach, except imports and ethanol.

Nuclear (one plant in every state)
Clean Coal
Dirty Coal
Natural Gas (I prefer to cook, dry clothes, heat water, etc. with natural gas)
Drilling for oil in ANWR, Gulf Coast, Pacific Coast, CONUS, wherever.
Shale oil extraction

Use what we have, keep what we produce, and set our own pricing.

This is something that Democrats are extremely weak on, btw. Just like with education, if they TRULY wanted to help ‘the children’, they would be 100% on board with vouchers, but as we saw with Washington DC, what really matter to Dems is that their bread is buttered by the teachers’ unions. If Dems actually cared about ‘the environment’ or believed the BS about man-caused global warming/apocalypse, then they would back nuclear power 100%. In reality, they are just anti-oil/coal/corporation/capitalism.

Same schnitzel, different day. This Dem will be rapidly brought back into line or else be omitted to a hospital for having ingested something that effected his mental capacity…

Geministorm on February 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM

You don’t want to know about high-test!

GarandFan on February 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM

GarandFan:Maybe you could jam a tiger in your tank!hehe:)
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Esso Gas Commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-qot-tlLrw&feature=fvwrel

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 4:29 PM

omitted = committed, sorry for the typo.

Geministorm on February 28, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Speaking of gasoline,heres are prices in S.S.M. Ontario
Canada!!

2011-02-25 04:47:33——–125.9 cents per litre

So,thats,about…….$5.66/Imp.Gallon!

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 4:35 PM

The hell with ANWAR or the Gulf. The Bakken Field in Montana has 2000 years worth of oil. Estimated $1.15 a gallon to US Citizens not counting what we could sell on the open market. This is all being done on purpose to bankrupt us. Are the Republicans ignorant or complicit? We already know where Comrade Zero stands on this……

adamsmith on February 28, 2011 at 4:36 PM

The economy hasn’t collapsed enough to satisfy the democrats.

They want $5+ per gallon gas.

They want us out of our cars and onto Public transportation like buses, light rail, speed trains, or riding around on bikes like in Beijing.

portlandon on February 28, 2011 at 4:40 PM

Wait, didn’t the judge involved in Permitorium give the Administration 30 days to start the permits flowing?

Given that they’re discovering tremendous natural gas resources around the country, where are the natural gas powered cars. I know there are buses, and some industrial vehicles that run on natural gas, but why no cars? Or mass available cars?

Iblis on February 28, 2011 at 4:15 PM

Permitorium – who cares? What is the judge going to do, tell a US Marshal to arrest someone? How about a fine?

There are plenty of natural gas trucks; but States passed laws say they can only be owned by the natural gas companies. No gasoline taxes collected.

For $350 you can buy a replacement carburetor that will run on multiple fuels, including natural gas. Argentina passed laws and that is where most of them are from.

barnone on February 28, 2011 at 4:41 PM

The tar sands in Canada are a major find – currently esimated at 1.7 TRILLION barrels. The easily recoverable portion makes Canada the 2nd largest oil reserves holder on earth, after Saudi Arabia.

Hmm, maybe we should invade. Of course then Obama would put their oil off limits too.

Iblis on February 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Is there a way to start drilling under a type of co-op?

I really don’t know what I’m talking about but couldn’t some drilling by a citizen-owned company NOT GOVERNMENT and NOT BIG OIL.

The profits could be returned to the citizens who contributed in some way to start the co-op???

Everyone hates big oil and the government. Could someone think of a solution?

stenwin77 on February 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM

You do realize that BIG OIL is citizen owned?

There isn’t some guy out there swimming in a pile of coin like Scrooge McDuck. The profits from BIG OIL go to investors which include pension funds, mutual funds, and other private stock holders and “citizens”. Citizens like yourself if you have money in a pension fund or mutual fund or individual stocks.

That is what the stock market is, a way for citizens to band together and own stuff in groups or co-ops if you will.

Lily on February 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I’m working on an engine that runs on milk! At these prices it’s a viable alternative!

ronsfi on February 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM

I suppose he never relied on gas fueled vehicles growing up in Kenya.

Sugar Land on February 28, 2011 at 4:45 PM

The judge in New Orleans, (Sorry don’t remember the name) Gave the Dept. of Interior 1 month to issue at least 15 permits. I have no idea what the repercussions will be if they don’t. I imagine it will be at a minimum, another time line to issue permits. This judge has already found the administration in Contempt of Court for not issuing permits. I think it really scared them too. (sarc)

Guest1.1 on February 28, 2011 at 4:47 PM

Are the Republicans ignorant or complicit? We already know where Comrade Zero stands on this……

adamsmith on February 28, 2011 at 4:36 PM

That’s an important question and one that bothers me greatly. We have the resources, and the politicians know it. Why are we holding back? Why are we allowing our country to be constantly embroiled in foreign engagements and beholden to third world hell holes? Yeah, yeah, we have global corporate concerns in these areas. Bring them home at least to the extent that it is as profitable to develop business here as it is elsewhere.

There is no reason for the US to be beholden to cultures that are antithetical to ours. Cut them off – at least to the extent that they can either reform to 21st century standards or wallow in their own swill. As long as we feed their sickness and lack of initiative we will always be fighting ridiculous cultural battles.

The US is/has become a giant welfare funding agent. It’s time to end this grotesque outlay of taxpayer money to regimes that hate us.

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:49 PM

Not really. Many farmers already run much of their fleet on propane. The same propane they use in their homes (that don’t have natural gas service.)

gary4205 on February 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM

Not around here, and I’ve lived my whole life in the corn belt. There are a few propane fueled multitaskers on some farmsteads, but the big work horses are all diesel.
If they can be converted over to natural gas easily, great, but propane costs are pretty high here. We recently moved from the country(propane heated) into a townhouse(natural gas), and I couldn’t believe the reduction in heating costs.

a capella on February 28, 2011 at 4:49 PM

I suppose he never relied on gas fueled vehicles growing up in Kenya.

Sugar Land on February 28, 2011 at 4:45 PM

You’re talking about the Zero, right? This is a guy who’s never paid one of his own bills, can’t pick up his socks off the sofa, and can’t tie his own shoes.

The fact that he somehow became POTUS is a living nightmare. His life is so charmed that he has Reggie Love (Luv) to hide the fact that he’s barely functional.

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM

Do the Democrats really think they have that much of a lock on the media that they can get away Scott free from the blame on this?
Chip on February 28, 2011 at 3:57 PM

Why, yes.
Yes they do.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on February 28, 2011 at 4:57 PM

I’m working on an engine that runs on milk! At these prices it’s a viable alternative!

ronsfi on February 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM

Check out the prices of corn, and it won’t seem so economical.

Anyone checked out the prices of rice lately? Not energy related, but the price of rice has gone up 75% in my area in the last week.

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Cavuto just announced that 0 admin just gave BP permission t
for offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 4:59 PM

Drilling for oil in the US will not have a material impact on worldwide oil prices. Growing demand in China and India are the primary driver of oil prices, compounded at the moment by supply problems in some parts of the Middle East.

Gas prices will go far, far higher over the next decade and the only answer is hybrid and electric vehicles that are fueled by a power grid that relies primary upon natural gas, which the US has in abundance.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Typical liberal propaganda.

Just the mere mention of the United States finally deciding to use it’s own damn resources will stabilize the jitters throughout the oil market.

The US can be energy independent. We’re bursting with oil, natural gas and coal. Add nuclear to that and it’s bye bye foreign oil.

darwin on February 28, 2011 at 5:00 PM

If only George Bush was president, the media would be shouting the news” BUSH’S FAILED ECONOMIC POLICIES INCREASING GAS PRICES!

At the start of Bush’s term in 2009, the average pump price for gasoline was $1.81. Today it is closer to $3.50 a gallon. Over the last two years, gas prices at the pump have risen 90%. If the average consumer is using 100 gallons a gas a month,the price increase has decreased his discretionary spending by $169.00. That $169.00 often times comes out of the family budget, thereby causing these families to go hungry just so they can get to work! Why does George Bush hate the poor and middle class? Why is George Bush enriching the oil companies?

Ah, the good ol’ days when the media would report such increases.

PrettyD_Vicious on February 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM

Where is my editor that would have caught “family FOOD budget.”

PrettyD_Vicious on February 28, 2011 at 5:07 PM

Anyone checked out the prices of rice lately? Not energy related, but the price of rice has gone up 75% in my area in the last week.

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 4:57 PM

China is selling a particular brand of rice at a cheap price.

PrettyD_Vicious on February 28, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Cavuto just announced that 0 admin just gave BP permission t
for offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

OmahaConservative on February 28, 2011 at 4:59 PM

That must mean all the rigs have moved to the coast off South America, to harvest for Soros, and are no longer available here.

a capella on February 28, 2011 at 5:12 PM

The hell with ANWAR or the Gulf. The Bakken Field in Montana has 2000 years worth of oil. Estimated $1.15 a gallon to US Citizens not counting what we could sell on the open market. This is all being done on purpose to bankrupt us. Are the Republicans ignorant or complicit? We already know where Comrade Zero stands on this……

adamsmith on February 28, 2011 at 4:36 PM

But what if a moose is inconvenienced by the oil wells? Can’t possibly take that risk.

angryed on February 28, 2011 at 5:15 PM

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

According to liberals:

Cutting $100B of the budget won’t do anything since the deficit is so big.

Drilling for oil won’t do anything since worldwide demand is so big.

But asking union members to pay $100 a month towards their own health insurance? That will destroy the world as we know it and we cannot possibly allow it to happen.

angryed on February 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM

China is selling a particular brand of rice at a cheap price.

PrettyD_Vicious on February 28, 2011 at 5:10 PM

Yeah, food fights won’t be a humorous, childish interlude soon. They will be for real and coming to a theater near all of us soon.

Thanks, DC pols, you insane fools. Completely FUBAR. Why is everyone terrified of a gub’mint shutdown? We’d be better off shutting down DC completely, turning it into a “living museum” where anyone who is interested can visit and spit on it.

Give the government back to the people. Wasn’t that the point to begin with?

Cody1991 on February 28, 2011 at 5:17 PM

Jazz wrote:

Is Congressman Jim Himes (D-CT-4) starting to get the message on domestic energy independence? According to one recent set of comments and a strong message from some of his constituents, he just may be.

It helps to be able to spell out the consequences of sustained high oil and gasoline prices in no uncertain terms for elected officials – eventually, they put the two and two they need for getting re-elected together.

Unless they really didn’t learn anything after the last election….

ironman on February 28, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Dire Straits:Lol,the great Hopey pressure gauge,changing
the planet,one properly inflated tire at a
time!:)

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM

LOL!..:)

Dire Straits on February 28, 2011 at 5:20 PM

“We are carefully and rigorously reviewing drilling plans. I am quite confident we will again get to the point where we approve deepwater permits,” Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement Director Michael Bromwich said Friday, according to Reuters.

Who is doing this review? What parameters are being reviewed? What is still lacking with these permits that they continue to be held up? Why is NO ONE asking these questions? Don’t the repubs in the house now have the authority to drag this guy before congress and demand these answers???

runawayyyy on February 28, 2011 at 5:27 PM

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM
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LOL!..:)

Dire Straits on February 28, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Dire Straits:)

canopfor on February 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM

Obama is so irrational
Letting BP drill and make money so they can pay clean up is rational
Drilling offshore and collecting 18% royalties is cash for the spenders
Driving the dollar down by deficit spending means crude will not fall very soon.

seven on February 28, 2011 at 5:34 PM

Hmm, maybe we should invade. Of course then Obama would put their oil off limits too.

Iblis on February 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM

LMAO

Dr. ZhivBlago on February 28, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Repeat after me: CHEAP ENERGY DRIVES THE ECONOMY!

I own a furniture manufacturing company and I get a first hand look at how much high oil effects prices. We get all the parts to make upholstered furniture from all over the country/world. Prices on everything (and I mean literally everything) have went up over the past few months:

* Wood for frames.
* springs
* foam (made from petroleum)
* fabric (many fabrics contain petroleum, plus a roll weighs 60+ lbs. expensive to ship).
* Screws
* Staples
* Wood finishes
* Shipping of finished goods

You may not think little things like screws and staples make a big difference in price, but you have wouldn’t believe the numbers used in a typical sofa or chair.

Now imagine the same thing applied to other types of manufacturers throughout the country. Until now manufacturers were able to eat most of this with owners and/or stockholders taking on most of the burden. Eventually, consumers will pay the price.

ReaganWasRight on February 28, 2011 at 6:17 PM

“I’d rather see [the U.S.] drilling for [natural] gas than for oil and for coal,” he said.

It is no movement towards drilling. It is a change of subject. I want to bring down price of gasoline, so I am proposing we should drill for more natural gas. There is no correlation at all between the price of gas and the price of natural gas, as almost no cars use natural gas and almost no power generation plants use any oil. Look over here, we are working to allow more energy production. Solar, Wind and natural gas, don’t look over here where we are cutting oil and coal production nothing to see here. Now shut up your ingrates and vote for me next election.

astonerii on February 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM

A shift of opinion in a few democratics is meaningless, because little Bammie is using the administration to shut down oil and gas, not legislation.

In addition, over the last forty years the progs have built us a legal machine designed to stop energy projects through the courts. If the EPA disappeared tomorrow and we got us a decent president, one or two Luddites could still go to court and delay any project for years and years with demands for ‘environmental studies’ and other such nonsense. Those environmental studies have to be done by -you guessed it, the filthy rich multinational environmental organizations! It’s corruption at it’s finest, under the guise of environmentalism.

Taking apart this machine will take years, and I don’t know if Republicans have the willpower to carry it through.

slickwillie2001 on February 28, 2011 at 6:38 PM

The fascinating thing about domestic oil production that no one wants to bring up is the intentional economic warfare waged on it during the 1990′s. In testimony from the Independent Petroleum Association of America before the Senate in 1999, it was revealed that the manipulation of the oil market was being done for a reason, and you may remember the days of cheap oil back then:

At current prices, most – if not all – of the onshore lower 48 production is at risk of loss.

The vital infrastructure of our industry is being shattered. Last week, the rotary rig count of oil wells dropped to an all time low, 122. At this number the only oil wells being drilled in the United States are being driven not by a desire to find oil but by the need to meet a lease commitment.

This loss of activity reflects the serious impact low oil prices will have on future production. All oil wells deplete over time. While new technology has made the discovery of oil more effective, it has also allowed oil reserves to be depleted more quickly. Some recent studies suggest that the current oil depletion rate in the Gulf of Mexico is now averaging 26 percent per year. This is dramatically higher than historic rates of 3 or 4 or 5 percent per year. What it suggests is that the industry must spend more money to meet future demand and maintain its reserves. One recent analysis shows the magnitude of difficulty of this task. Looking at ten of the best major oil and gas companies over the past ten years it shows that these companies’ exploration and production capital expenditures totaled $260 billion – at a time when a vast overcapacity in the oil service industry kept prices down. For this expenditure, these companies increased their daily oil and gas production by 0.9 percent. Reserves were increased by almost 13 percent, but most of this was natural gas and a sizeable portion was in Central Asia where more needs to be invested to bring it to the world market. Oil reserves were increased by about 1.7 percent.

This brings to bear two key points. First, these were probably the best ten companies, ones with the best financial base. Other companies would have fewer resources. Second, these results will not be achieved without substantial investment. These historic low oil prices are savaging capital expenditure budgets with cuts of 20 to 40 percent so far. Without investment, reserves cannot be replaced.

Behind these numbers is a realization that jobs are being lost by the tens of thousands, skills that will not be recovered by the industry in the future. For the past several weeks we have read about the intense concerns over steel imports into the United States that could cost 10,000 jobs. The Houston Chronicle reported that the American Petroleum Institute estimates 1998 job losses in the industry to be 30,000. IPAA analyzed the domestic oil industry based on economic multiplier factors associated with lost revenues. This analysis concludes that the domestic oil industry has lost 50,000 jobs or more from the current price crisis. Moreover, the country has lost over $1.7 billion in lost federal royalties and state severance taxes, without even assessing the lost income taxes, property taxes, or sales taxes.

So America does have… or more correctly DID have… a thriving domestic producer situation. What happened was that the lowest part of the market, the determiner of price for the market overall at that time, was none other than Saddam Hussein. He was willing to sell at a loss, a huge loss, via Oil For Food because it would cause long-range problems to the US as our smaller, domestic producers either went out of business or were gobbled up by larger firms.

That was an intentional attack to concentrate our energy system into fewer hands that were more amenable to market manipulation via production contracts. The trail to get to Obama, today, does not start in 2008 or in 2003 but in the post-Desert Storm agreements that would not keep Saddam to his word for the cease-fire. That then brought on the violins and bleeding hearts for the Iraqi people that let Saddam game the oil markets via OFF and smuggling to put an artificially low price-point into the market. He could afford that as any income was better than none, and his friends he had chosen to sell oil via OFF could then get non-contract prices for it that were higher than the original contract price… with the difference pocketed.

What that did to the US was lose the necessary hardware and job skills to have a strong and diverse domestic market. Why do we have the current concentration of power (not just oil but the political power that goes with it) into the hands of a few players? That was engineered. But no one on the Left wanted to talk about that in 1999… all hearts and flowers for Saddam, then. And as there was cheap oil, who was going to worry about the loss of domestic infrastructure going to fewer and fewer, and larger firms?

Even with ‘Drill, Baby, Drill!’, with which I wholeheartedly agree with, look to see who benefits from the system that has been gamed for decades. The current Administration has its friends who took part in that gaming… and do note that some of those intermediaries are playing both sides of the aisle. We were warned the system was being arranged to do this, and even if the one who started the gaming is now safely out of the way, the rigged system continues on with others reaping the benefits. Obama couldn’t rig the system on his own, he is just playing out the rich hand that was dealt to him by others.

ajacksonian on February 28, 2011 at 6:58 PM

“You just have to turn down your thermostat to 68 degrees.” — Jimmy Carter

John the Libertarian on February 28, 2011 at 7:06 PM

It’s not really funny, but in a way I can’t help but find it so. America’s ‘Che’-in-Chief is cutting his own throat with his policies. Think all those truth to power leftards will vote for you when they have to choose between gas or gruel? They are Americans, Barry. Not Mexicans, or Libyans (I mean “Lybians”) or Timbuktuians. Meaning, they KNOW the good life and are only playing at being radical. Radicalism stops when they themselves have to suck it up. So long Barry, it was ‘funny’ while it lasted.

JimP on February 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM

Lots of misinformation in the posts regarding oil.

There is not 2000 years of oil in Bakken, also it is a tight shale formation which will take a constant drilling program for years to come. Those shale wells pay off quickly but peter our quickly (in 10 years or less).

They just issued a permit of a well today to a well which was well on its way to being drilled to its final depth offshore in over 6,000 feet of water today. Drilling was stopped when the Macondo well blew out last year. THIS IS NOT A NEW WELL.

Feldman issued a CIVIL contempt citation with another judge/panel to decide the CIVIL penalty against Ken Salazar & Dept of Interior. He later issued a ruling that 5 WELLS application would either receive permit approval or rejection in the course of 30 days. NOT 15.

It is quite impossible to mobilize ALL THE RIGS IN THE WORLD and become hydrocarbon self sufficient in Obama’s present term, impossible. I don’t care where we drill. However, it could go a long ways into becoming self sufficient by the end of this decade.

Kermit on February 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM

If Ive said it once, Ive said it 100 times… we dont need oil, we need sweaters, fully inflated tires …and….high speed rail. Nuff said, the debate is over.

Koa on February 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM

Dems continue to support non-viable policies. If persistent, then Dems will be abandoned and become non-viable themselves. Hopefully Dems will either relent or be abandoned before the dollar becomes non-viable.

exdeadhead on February 28, 2011 at 11:54 PM

Just so Zero can be viewed as creating jobs in LA and the Gulf, his dept of energy has granted one deep well drilling permit, ONE. Also gets rid of that contempt of court thingy.

Kissmygrits on March 1, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Gas prices will go far, far higher over the next decade and the only answer is hybrid and electric vehicles that are fueled by a power grid that relies primary upon natural gas, which the US has in abundance.

bayam on February 28, 2011 at 3:48 PM

ONly a multi-prong effort, led by more drilling of oil, natural gas, nuclear power will resolve our issue.
Electricity is not the answer, since so much is lost in the delivery of the power…however, a series of small nuclear power plants could provide local power evenly across the U.S.
And just in case one forgets…Trucks need fuel, and the only real efficient power is diesel…and lest one also forgets, oil is used for more then just “power”…

right2bright on March 1, 2011 at 10:12 AM

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